Mafia: Dethy

The players:

altimis
NeoSilk
felbatista
Aaarrrgh
storyteller

The game begins at Night 0. All cops, please PM me your targets!

This night round will last 48 hours from now.

~SE++

I know it's usually not a good idea, but I'm going to claim this game, just for fun.
I'm a cop.

Anyone else want to claim?

I kinda figured that we didn't need to post the standard rules with EVERY game, especially since this is a Mafia game for someone a bit more experienced to play in... but:

- Deleting or editing posts.
- Posting in white, unreadable or 'invisitext.'
- Quoting your role PM.
- Communicating out of thread without explicit permission from me.
- Multiple instances of posting during the Night phase.
- Bold and color your vote.
- Do not vote in spoiler blocks.
- If there is no majority consensus, the one with the most votes at the deadline will be lynched.
- In case of a tie at this point, the last votes will be removed until there is no longer a tie.

NeoSilk, no more talking during Night 0 please.

~SE++

Day 1 begins now

There are five of you, three are required for a lynch.

This round will be open for 7 days.

~SE++

OK - now that I can talk (sorry all!) I've been thinking. If everyone posts their results, we should be able to figure this out, right? I mean, even with the 1 mafia player posting something incorrect, we should be able to narrow it down...

Thoughts?

So - here's mine, I know that I'm not the Naive cop, as I got a mafia result back.

So, I can be sane (and got lucky targeting the mafia player), I could be paranoid or I could be insane (or, of course, I could be mafia and just be full of ****).

And, in the spirit of being fully open and honest, I'll even say that I targeted Fel.

I'm thinking that, if everyone says who they targeted, and what the results are, we should be able to come up with the correct answer, or at the least, narrow it down.

False. After today there will be two less people, and we won't be able to complete the cycle. Unless we all targeted the same person, that information is practically useless as we'll need at least three targetings in order to determine our specfic problem.
At best, one player gets three targetings, at the cost of not know what the results of the other three cops were (againt, usually rendering the results useless). Here's what I mean...

With one target, you can't tell anything really unless two people targeted the same person. Barring that,

If you target two different people and get...
Two mafia:
You are either insane or the one that always sees mafia.
Two town:
You are either naive or normal.
One of each:
You are either insane or sane.

I think, before we claim what our reads were, we should say whom are targets were and see if we can gather any case of multiples.

In the meantime, play like it's regular mafia. I'm going to form a cross over chart to see if I can get anything.

I wanted to target myself (heheh), but squinty said no (then I could learn in one post what would normally take two). I targeted storyteller instead.

I can see no reason, in this game, to withhold any information.

But, we will be able to get information. If you targeted anyone, and came up town, you can eliminate the chance of you being the paranoid cop. So, just knowing the result will help.

So I targeted Fel, and got scum.
You targeted Storyteller and got ____

I know I'm not Naive. Depending on your result, you should be able to eliminate at least one of the cop flavors (really only naive or paranoid).

If, we do happen to have multiple people targeting the same person, we'll be able to eliminate more and more. Of course, everything has to be taken with a grain of salt, since 1 person will be lying. But, after getting all of the info, we should be able to run multiple scenarios (eliminating the info from 1 person for each one) and get closer to the truth.

Again, to me, this really seems like, if we share all of the info, we should be able to figure out who's lying, and get a mafia lynch - not tonight, most likely, but tomorrow.

Oh - and, this is, of course, assuming that each of the variants is used once. If there's a chance that multiple cops are the same variant...then, it will be much more complicated (and fun)

I am going to withold my result until I discover who everyone else has targeted.
It makes it more difficult to simply copy and paste, and if the is an error we know where the mafia is going to be.

The reason, if I targeted storyteller, and the mafia decided to say they targeted storyteller, and another cop actually targeted storyteller the mafia would already be locked into claiming for storyteller, which narrows their options considerably (which makes it easier for us to find them).

As with regular mafia, revealing all your information is bad. It's less bad considering the circumstances, but you can use timing of information to your advantage.

Sounds like scum talk to me!

Actually, assuming everyone shares, I'll plan on doing it in groups of 4 anyway, eliminating one persons data from each one and try and find what does not match up.

Either way, everyone will have to share and one of us needed to be first.

I targeted NeoSilk.

And altimis, thank you for clarifying your point of view. I can agree that withholding that info until everyone has revealed their targets, but only if we make sure to share the full information before the end of the day. I want to make sure that no cop takes any information with them to the grave, if it can be avoided. This is a mafia version where everyone will have useful info, but it is only useful when compared with other people's info.

Correct. Nobody should be taking information to the grave.

My target was Alt. I figured he would try to be the center of attentions anyway, might as well give that to him

I'm not sure if revealing too much is a good idea, though. It'll give Mafia info to make the better play.

I know, right?

I targeted Argh (shortened for my own sanity) last Night.

lol.
I don't like to, I just have been super excited for my vacation that I haven't been getting much sleep and end up posting here as a result. And tired trying to sound intelligent posts don't work well

By the way (I mentioned it in the other thread), tomorrow I leave for vacation. I expect that I should still be able to post, but at the very worst I should be able to post once a night. It'll be during this upcoming week.

One thing I just thought of. Seeing as we know four of us are cops (so long as se wasn't lying to us, and that we all have different things wrong with us...well except the one where nothing is wrong) what do you guys think of a no lynch for day one?

If we lynch somone whom isn't mafia.
Today we have 5, if we lynch a cop the mafia kills a cop.
Tomorrow we have 3 and it's lylo. If we lynch a cop, mafia kills a cop and mafia wins.
BUT
If we don't lynch...
Today we have 5, if we don't lynch mafia kills a cop.
Tomorrow we have 4. If we lynch cop mafia kills a cop
The day after we have 2 and whomever votes first wins (according to the rules).
The next day will have 2 people and whomever votes first wins.

What do you guys think of that?

I meant to write over that one. Oops.

Is a no lynch even allowed this game?
There's nothing about it in the rules.