Rag - Used mass vote block ability Day 2 which caught Numbers. This leads to Numbers's lynch.

Niklor - Restarted the wagon on Numbers Day 2 which lead to Numbers getting lynched.

Neo - Killed scum Garen Night 3. Was the only kill of that night.


Scar is not scum. Aside from Garen's ability showing that Scar hasn't killed anyone (which doesn't prove beyond a shadow of doubt that Scar isn't scum), Scar is also linked to me due to me lying to protect Numbers and Scar confirming to have used an ability on me that I made mention of before he brought it up.

For a quick refresher: I lied to protect Numbers (interesting that Neo didn't see fit to kill me that night). At the start of Day 3 I immediately claimed and mentioned (some) of my abilities while also mentioning that one of my abilities had gained an additional charge last night. Upon seeing this Scar wanted me to clarify when it happened, then claimed his own ability which could only affect town aligned players. Due to this, Scar and I ended up being linked ever since. If one of us was scum, the other would be scum. Same way for being town aligned.

This is why Scar is not scum. In fact it is why Scar is town.

As for the three of you, you each have good reasons to be viewed as town. Also, since I shot Zinger and confirmed him as town recently, I'm kinda inclined to look at things from his perspective.

@Scar: I honestly couldn't help it. I was literally torn as to who to shoot (it literally was between Niklor and Zinger after Neo hit scum Garen). In hindsight though (even though I noticed it), it is possible scum Neo sacrificed his afk partner (Garen) to appear as townie as possible.

As it stands though we are going to win either way since the remaining scum is either Niklor or Neo. I doubt it is Rag, but if it is Rag, then (to repeat Zinger), he's pretty much earned it for busing Numbers so early in the game with an ability that confirmed Numbers's killed.

As for Neo and Niklor, Niklor will die today from lynch (I'd rather see him dead in order to follow Zinger's idea of a Niklor/Garen scum team) and this will prevent him from making it to tomorrow with his ability to double vote. Neo can just die tonight (unless he was being honest about his ability to protect himself in which case he'll have to be lynched by you and Rag since I expect him to kill me).

@Neo:

Sorry, but my use of my kill ability was decided upon based on what I thought. Ever since the start of the game Zinger just felt like scum to me. The constant tunnels on each other didn't help. When it came down to it to choosing between Niklor and Zinger, I felt Niklor was more town than Zinger was since he didn't have as much (event-wise) to really indicate to me he was town. At least Niklor redirected the lynch back onto Numbers and allowed town to talk at night. Zinger bandwagoned back onto Numbers and was content on setting up chain lynches regarding Scar and I.

I just had to get him out of the way. Besides, I would never use the ability on Scar. Scar is town, in the strictest sense, to me.

In order for Scar to be scum he would have had to have openly claim his ability use on me knowing full well that it put him into the spotlight with me since I had lied, and then there was no guarantee he would not be lynched due to claiming vanilla at that point. Not only is it way beyond too risky just for trying to somewhat gain town pants through my confirmation, it would literally have been suicide.

That said, as I've already mentioned the last scum is between you and Niklor. Niklor because of Zinger's reasoning that the scum team must be Niklor/Garen through process of elimination from his viewpoint (which now includes him definitely being town). You because you were the only person to kill last night, and there is no way to explain that, unless mafia no hit (not knowing who you would target for sure).

Due to Niklor's ability to double vote (which is null at the moment), I am much more comfortable lynching him. You, if you are the remaining scum, can just be lynched tomorrow if Niklor turns up as town. Or if I live tomorrow I can just shoot you.

I used my "confuse" ability yesterday, during the day, to protect myself last night.
My only remaining ability is a protection one - worded that I can protect someone at night, but, only if they are comedy aligned.
@KoD - I never planned on using my kill ability that early - true, I did find it odd that you lied, but, I was not even close to convinced enough that you were scum to use it that early.

Since I know I'm not scum, I do think that Niklor is the most likely one to be scum.


I still don't believe this proves Scar to be town. He could easily have lied about his ability only working on town aligned players to gain town pants.
You are using his word to prove his alignment, which cannot be done. I mean, I can say the same about mine, and, while I know it to be true, no one else does.

Fake Edit - @KoD - I do understand, I have been on the fence about Zinger all game as well.
And, I agree, Niklor's double vote ability makes it very important that we lynch him today.

In fact (since we know the day does not end early).
Vote: Niklor

this is apparently not true, since scar is alive. Claiming a cop result on you as scum is certainly a strange play and I can't imagine why Scar would think it is a good play to make, but I certainly don't view it as risky enough that scar is confirmed town in the same way neo and you are.

On that note, why are you including neo as a potential scum candidate? He killed scum. That's a stronger action to take than sticking your neck out to confirm a townie or to claim a cop result on scum.

@Rag:

Additionally, Garen only used his ability on Scar because I suggested it to him. Scar wasn't around at the time that occurred so he had no input (nor did most others).

Neo


Your belief does not matter in this regard. Why?

Just in the paragraphs above, in your post, you said you did not believe me to be scum. Why? Especially since you said this at the start of Day 3 in regards to me lying:

Neo


Obviously the stated words of the people do prove something. In my case it proves that you thought I was scum (read: not town) for what I did. Nowhere did you give the impression you thought I was town. In Scar's case, you were adamant yesterday that scum couldn't be Scar and I because we're both linked.

And it isn't Scar's word only that proves Scar is town to me as I have stated. Scar's ability did affect me and is what kept me alive throughout all of yesterday (otherwise I would have been lynched no problem). So no, Scar can't be scum. What he did to vindicate me is counterproductive to the max in regards to scum game play.

That is, a scum Scar had no reason to clear/protect me after I had lied about protecting Numbers. Especially since in clearing/protecting me scum Scar would then become the subject of much talked above lynching for most of Day 3.


As it all stands, I'm starting to think you're definitely the last scum over Niklor now. That'd be the only way to account for your change in view on Scar.

Matter of fact, it doesn't matter.

Unvote, Vote: Neo

I'll just shoot Niklor tonight if you come up as town. At least I know he can't protect himself tonight.


@Rag:

You think it unlikely for scum to shoot their partners? Especially a partner that hasn't participated much in this game and was the only kill last night?

Better yet, view it this way: Only one kill occurred last night with no idea who it would be on. If Neo truly was town and scum had no idea who he would target, then scum would have killed as well. Only the one kill though. Just like how there was only one kill when Day 2 started. Chances are, just like in Numbers's case, that that kill belongs to mafia.

And with how inactive Garen has been, killing him off would not have been a bad decision at all especially when you claim you can kill scum or die from killing town (and then pick scum). Best part is we can't retest Neo's ability.

somehow i'm not surprised

Put simply: Yes. I think it is unlikely for scum to shoot their partners.

WIFOM is a thing.

Unvote

As unlikely as scum busing their partners?

I'm not changing my views - I'm just saying that assuming Scar is town based on what he says is wrong. Pretty much the same as you thinking that I'm scum, even though I clearly killed scum last night.

I really can't tell if you are trying to muddy the waters, or if you're just wrong with your analysis.

Also - I stand by my statement - lying is not a town move. I'm not saying that I think you are scum, since I clearly think you are town. the only way you could be scum would be if Scar was lying, or some other ability clouded the results - which I think is unlikely.

Aside from myself, I'm more sure about you being town than anyone else.

Fake Edit - @Rag - I agree. Clearly, I was agreeing with Zinger yesterday, since I shot one of his targets. If the scum team was myself and Garren, I would have clearly shot Niklor last night instead.

Neo



No, you wouldn't have. You put yourself in an extremely binding situation.

As scum, you could not shoot anyone else or you would have to come up as dead (or claim your ability got prevented somehow -- and my ability only prevented mafia aligned abilities which would damn you, but then you could claim my ability likely prevented you which would have indicated that I was scum since I would not have protected myself).

No, if you and Garen were scum, there are several ways you could have approached it, not just shooting Niklor. Garen clearly hasn't been active. As scum, you could shoot him after you had claimed your ability and flat out clear yourself because "scum would obviously not kill their partner".

No you wouldn't. Because then Niklor would be the only death leading to us believing you lied and us lynching you.

scum shooting their partners is less likely than scum bussing their partners.

And yeah, you are changing your views. Part of what you maintained yesterday was that Scar and I were not scum (read: both, not just one).

@Rag and Scar:

I have one more confession, and this time is is the whole truth because this lynch matters.

I am Katakuriko Matsudaira, and my abilities are as follow (in order):

1) Count to 3 - A day/night kill ability that I can use only after Day 3 (this is why I was happy that Scar came out to protect me after I had lied).

2) Prevent Assassination - A protect ability that only protects a target from mafia aligned kills (has no effect against town aligned kills).

3) Interrogate - An ability to see who targets the person I target, then allows me to kill anyone who targeted the person I targeted.

My ability use was accurate the first time around I claimed it. That is,

I used 3) on Scar Night 1, then I used 2) on Rag Night 2. Day 3 my Interrogate ability was recharged and I used it again last night targeting Scar.

I constantly lied about my role so as to not give the whole truth, but this time is is the whole truth because I have nothing to actually stop a person going into tonight/tomorrow.


I'm claiming this now because it literally is either Niklor or Neo who is mafia. Scar isn't. Yes, Scar wasn't lynched yesterday, but that was through a lot of talking. Scar wasn't killed last night either (nor was I) despite how attached at the hip we are. When Garen turned up as scum, it negated the idea of a KoD/Scar scum team. That being said, there was no reason at all for Scar, as scum, to claim an ability use on me after I had claimed at the start of Day 3.

Rag, just as you believe that scum wouldn't kill their own, I believe that scum wouldn't take that risk concerning me. Zinger argued against us for a majority of that day because he felt that was a gambit worth taking (but only if Scar truly was scum with me -- it would make sense then that such a risk maaaaaay be worth it although this was argued multiple ways yesterday). Garen came up as scum though which negated the possibility of both Scar and I being scum. Since we both can't be scum, then I can't be scum otherwise Scar's ability would have had no effect on me. Likewise Scar can't be scum because scum Scar had no motivation to out himself just to protect me when I (as town) lied and would have got lynched for it.

Take these two events and compare them:
1) Scar, as scum, decides to out himself by saying he used an ability to confirm that KoD is town despite the fact KoD had lied and would have gotten lynched. Scum Scar does this with the expectation of earning town pants (even though that means ensuring he doesn't get lynched or killed tonight -- both of which were entirely possible given the discussions yesterday from talking about lynching Scar to Scar wanting to be targeted to be killed last night).

2) Scum Neo claims an ability to kill scum or kill himself if he targets town. Scum Neo kills Garen and Garen turns up as scum. Scum Neo has town pants now (as indicated by your willingness to believe that scum wont' shoot their partners).

Of these two events, Neo's is much simpler whereas Scar's is complex.


Course the reason I bring this up to you Rag is because I fully expect you to live going into tomorrow as opposed to me. Why? Because I'm sold on Scar being town. I can't be convinced that he is mafia. You can be though.

Should Niklor come up as town -- and yes Niklor must be lynched first because if he truly is scum, then he can rival the votes tomorrow and get whoever he wants lynched allowing him to win which is why he must be lynched -- then that will leave you, Neo, and Scar in the final day. I fully expect to be shot. If this happens, then Neo is definitely scum. He shot Garen simply to earn himself as much town pants as you have from catching Numbers, and you need to be mindful of this.

Scar's motivation could have been to get himself confirmed as town. Try this: Scar claims a town result on you. You get NK'd the next night by scar and flip town. Scar gets town pants.

NKing your team mate is basically using up your NK in order to bus your team mate. If you're bussing the regular way (like by faking a cop result), at least you use the town's lynch to get it done and can use your NK on a townie. That is why i feel what neo did is a more far fetch'd action for scum to take than what I did. We both got scum killed, but if he was scum, then he used up his NK doing it.

I can promise that I will carefully consider why the mafia chose to kill you should you die tonight.

Assuming mafia still has any night kills. The lack from a few nights (including last night) is odd - and yes, I see how that could throw suspicion on me, since clearly the only kill came from myself.
All I can say is that I've not lied once this game - I feel like I've claimed my roles at the right times, and followed through on what I've said. I really can't see myself killing the only other scum player last night, if I was scum, as it leaves things wide open for town.

@Rag

That is still complex as it requires scum Scar to survive the day without being lynched despite claiming vanilla. Also it doesn't explain why scum Scar would not kill someone else if not me due to my lie. Scum Scar had no idea who Neo would target so holding onto the kill doesn't make sense.

@Neo

There is no assuming. Mafia does have night kills. Numbers was killed after we found that he killed. After that Silly turned up dead. Garen obviously used an ability that could kill and was revealed. You claimed an ability to kill and killed Garen. No one else has claimed a kill ability. If what you assume is the case, then you were the last person to kill at night making you the likely suspect.

We'll know for sure come tonight after Niklor is lynched.

Vote: Niklor

What do you mean lack from a few nights?

Sorry - for some reason, I was thinking this was later than D4.


Day 1, we lynched TB (True_Believer: GobO_Scarlet, KoD, 15377 (3))
Night 1, Squinty was killed (numbers claimed)
Day 2, we lynch numbers (15377: Niklor, Ragnarokio, Zinger2099 (3))
Night 2, Silly is killed (no claim)
Day 3, we lynch Fruit (Fruit: GobO_Scarlet, Niklor, Garren_Windspear, Ragnarokio (4))
Night 3, Garren is killed (I claim)

In my quick pass, does anyone know if anyone claimed the Silly kill? Clearly, there was no mafia kill last night, unless they targeted someone who was protected. I know that I had protected myself, however, if mafia had targeted me with a kill, I would assume they would be dead, based on the wording of my ability.

WIFOM:
Niklor and Rag both voted to lynch town and scum.

During D3, Garren (scum) used his ability on Scar:



Clearly proves that Scar is not responsible for the kill on Silly. Also seems like an oddly worded ability for scum to have.

However, I still stand by saying, this does not 100% prove that Scar is town. Maybe each scum player had 1 kill - numbers used it on Squinty, Garren used it on Silly, and Scar still has one, after Garren used his ability to clear Scar.

But, I don't think that it's likely. Actually, it seems (to me) to be about as unlikely a play as me (if I were scum) killing Garren last night. Of course, if I were scum, I'm sure my kill ability would have had different wording, as it would have been expected to be aimed at town, specifically.

If you assume that Scar is town, that clears KoD. KoD, right or wrong, is convinced that Rag is town.
I know that I'm town, and that just leaves Niklor, who clearly seems to be the best choice.

However, since people are convinced that I've made up an elaborate ploy...
If we lynch Niklor, and he's actually town, it's 4-1
KoD kills me, and mafia kills someone else. 2-1

Actually, assuming that's really the worst case, that's not too bad. Depending on who else was killed, that should be an easy win for town. Plus, maybe I'd be able to use my last ability (before I'm killed) to save whomever is targeted by scum.

/ramble

Barring anything else crazy happening today, I see no reason to switch my vote off of Niklor, who I still think it easily the most likely to be scum.

You're assuming to know how the night kill for mafia works.

Something I made an argument for for clearing Scar, but was argued against by Zinger.

If you go by the method you are explaining, then Garen couldn't have killed during Night 2. Garen had claimed to have role block Fruit that night which means he used up his night ability for that night. What you are saying asserts that (and this is treading again into the unknown functions of the mafia night kill) that each mafia member who has the ability to do other things also has the ability to kill AND can do so despite their use of another ability.

What that means: It means that after the first night mafia could have all just used their ability to kill resulting in not just the one death that Numbers claimed, but also two other victims. Obviously that wasn't the case, and the best reason to explain that is because the mafia either has one night kill to use (like normal) or all of their abilities to night kill are restricted to only one use per night.

As it stands there is no reason to assume that each member of the mafia has the ability to kill. Why?

Because you can look at all the claims made thus far. Of all the claims made: Garen claimed an ability to kill, I (recently) have claimed an ability to kill, and you have claimed an ability to kill.

No one else has claimed an ability to kill. So that means either people are lying (to fit your theory that each mafia member has an ability to kill), or it means that people have claimed their roles truthfully and those that don't have the ability to kill are likely town (again to fit with your theory that each member of the mafia has the ability to kill).

Now here is a fun fact:

Numbers obviously killed SE the first night. So, going with your theory, Numbers has used up his ability.
Second night Silly dies. No one came forth to claim that death.
Third night Garen died due to your ability (he was the only death).

Obviously someone killed Silly due to Silly using his ability that redirected all kill attempts to himself (likely redirecting the mafia night kill to him as opposed to someone like Rag even though Rag was protected). Whoever this person was (to fit your theory) doesn't have the ability to kill again (assuming they are mafia).

Garen used an ability to kill someone that has killed a player, and it didn't effect Scar meaning Scar has not killed yet. Also, note that Garen ***used an ability to kill***. Garen was scum. As per your theory was this Garen's kill ability? Are we going to maintain that Garen had two different kill abilities (obv Scar didn't kill Silly so did Garen both block Fruit and use a night kill ability that would bypass the rules allowing him to also kill Silly)? Or if we go with the idea Garen didn't kill Silly, then why didn't Garen kill anyone last night?


As you can see this is getting convoluted.



Also do make note that I am the one who directed Garen to use his ability on Scar. The reasoning behind that was based on assuming how hte night kill for the mafia works (much the same way you are assuming how it works). My assumption was that the mafia night kill acts like an ability use so a person who makes the mafia night kill can't use any other abilities (any of the mafia players can make the kill). To that end, I directed Garen to use his ability on Scar because had used an ability last night that failed to target due to Rag's ability. Garen obliged and used his ability on Scar only to find that Scar had not killed anyone.

Focusing on the idea that the mafia night kill is like an ability that mafia can use each night (like a standard night kill), the only players who had not used an ability during N2 would have been you.

Garen claimed to role block Fruit.
Zinger and I targeted Rag with abilities.
Rag used an ability to protect himself.
Scar used an ability on me.
Niklor used an ability to prevent himself from being targeted N2.

So yes, as it stands out of everyone you're the only player who didn't make an action N2 leaving open the possibility that you are the one who killed Silly (if we go by how I assume the mafia night kill works).

However, if the mafia night kill works like a combination of our two assumptions (that is, that it is not an ability like our role abilities -- allowing it to bypass the rules of ability usage -- and it functions like a normal night kill -- only one person makes the kill as designated by the mafia), then anyone could have made the kill. I could have, Rag could have, Scar, etc etc.

Obviously this is not helpful.

So let's go back to the approach of reviewing actions.

Rag got Numbers lynched. Townie points.
Niklor restarted the lynch on Numbers. Townie points.
I lied about preventing Numbers's lynch. Negative points.
Scar claims to have used an ability that yielded a town result on me. Mixed points.
Neo claimed an ability that allowed him to kill scum or die if he targets town. Killed scum Garen, but was the only kill that night. Mixed points.

Let's recap the negative points.

I lied about protecting Numbers from being lynched. That earned me considerable ire from practically all players (in varying degrees). Case in point: Some (like Zinger) outright wanted me lynched others (like Rag) voiced the idea that town make mistakes like that so it's likely he's not scum and a few (specifically just you Neo) noted how what I did was anti-town without going much further into detail. Niklor came around and even mentioned how he was definitely suspicious of me because of my actions, but then Scar's reveal gave pause to the whole situation.

So let's move to the mixed points starting with Scar.

First and foremost the circumstances revolving around Scar's ability use. Scar indicated early enough in the game (make note of that) that he could investigate someone. He was unsuccessful in drawing night kills to get rid of his potential investigation ability. He originally intended to use his ability to find out whether Numbers was scum or not, but Numbers was lynched (due to having killed SE). Immediately after this (going into the night) it became apparent I lied to try and protect Numbers, but to what end? From Scar's perspective, because of how scummy I was, I made the perfect target for his investigation ability. It either didn't work and I never made mention of it (thus making me scum in Scar's eyes) or it worked and I make mention of it at some point thereby confirming to Scar that I am town. Immediately at the start of the next day I came forth right away and claimed my role. In the course of claiming my role (note I was the first post of that day before anyone else) I claimed several things: that I tried to protect Rag and it failed (as indicated later by Rag due to an ability he used) and that one of my abilities had gained an additional charge for use. Upon claiming that I had received a charge from my ability (note that I am not viewed favorably due to having lied) Scar speaks up openly (no longer affected by his posting restriction) and asks me to clarify the circumstances under which I gained this additional charge. Upon doing so Scar ***openly*** claimed to everyone that I am town due to an ability he had.

So, up till now what happened in a short summary? I lied making me look like bad scum. Scar openly claims, due to an ability, that I am town. What all of this means, as indicated the previous day, is that Scar and I are now linked. A scum Scar (and this was how it was argued yesterday) either was taking a gamble to save scum KoD or a town Scar was copping KoD to best make use of his investigation ability to find out whether KoD was scum or town. Part of all the arguments yesterday was that a scum Scar would not have motivation to speak up and try to clear scum KoD because of how much heat scum KoD had on him. Add to that, that in claiming all this Scar also claimed to be vanilla. So a different approach was thought up: Rather than lynch KoD (who claimed to have an extra charge on his ability to protect tonight) we could lynch Scar instead due to Scar being vanilla. Scar turns up scum, KoD is scum. Scar turns up town, KoD is town. Obviously I was opposed to this and Scar was too. Scar, instead, would much rather be killed tonight by a vig (at this point Neo had claimed an ability to kill scum or die trying). So Scar was all too happy to have Neo use his ability on her (and when it comes right down to it Scar would have been the target had Niklor not used his concert ability allowing us to continue talking into the night at which point Neo changed his mind).************ (This is important enough for me to come back to later when speaking about Neo.)

In summary: Given how much heat KoD had, a scum Scar would have no motivation to try and protect scum KoD (but this was argued against by Zinger due to a possible gamble being taken by the scum team of KoD/Scar). Garen's death disproves the possibility of a KoD/Scar team. Now the point of contention (as brought up by Neo and Niklor and even you Rag) is that Scar is possibly scum due to trying to gain town pants ***in the previously mentioned situation that was filled with danger for scum Scar in the first place***. Zinger's argument that a scum Scar would take that gamble to protect a scum KoD I could understand (even a little) despite how Scar plays this game. It was at least within the realm of possibility. But now the argument is that a scum Scar spoke up to protect KoD (known town) despite the fact that scum Scar claimed to be vanilla and was debated as the lynch candidate for a while and (on his own) requested to be night killed by Neo. All for gaining town pants?

At this point that situation is just fabricated to fit what happened despite how complex the situation is. That makes it extremely unlikely (unlikely like Rag using his vote block to throw Numbers under the bus so hard that it ended up wrecking the bus).


Let's cover the mixed points in regard to Neo because it isn't as complex.

Neo claimed an ability to kill scum or die from targeting town yesterday. He eventually claimed his entire role and never indicated using any of his abilities. He even indicated, prior to the day ending, that he ended to target Scar if Fruit flipped town. Fruit flipped town. Due to Niklor's concert we were able to continue talking. Zinger, at this point, contested the idea he was ok with (that Neo stick to his commitment to target Scar if Fruit flipped town). Zinger argued all of the WIFOM that could happen from Neo indicating exactly who he targeted, and he suggested that Neo just pick (from two people) but not say who he picked. Neo picks Garen (telling us after deadline) and Garen ends up dead and as the only kill. This means either Neo is truthful and is town, or he bused his partner by using him to "confirm" his townieness.


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There are 3 situations the way I see it:
1.) Scar is scum.
2.) Neo is scum.
3.) Niklor is scum.

Each situation carries with it its own complexity. Scar's situation is by far the most complex and therefore the least likely as far as I am concerned (you have to make a lot of jumps -- such as scum Scar confirm town KoD for the sake of gaining town pants despite the entire situation -- to arrive at the conclusion that Scar is scum). Neo's is less complex (and therefore more likely) than Scar's, but it does require assumptions nonetheless -- assumptions like Garen was the only kill because Neo used the mafia NK to kill Garen to confirm himself. Niklor's situation is by far the least complex compared to the rest. As Zinger made mention of, he worked on the idea that I and Scar had to be the remaining scum. If not us, then the remaining scum (from his eyes) had to be Niklor/Garen. Upon Garen's death, this confirmed to Zinger that KoD/Scar was impossible for a scum team and forced him to look at the idea of Niklor being scum.



So what it all comes down to is whether or not Niklor dies as scum today.

So at this point I'm going to go on record for voting to end day early.

I vote to end today early

A majority of us seem inclined to lynch Niklor. So either Niklor dies as scum (game ends) or he dies as town. If he dies as town, I will most likely be dead leaving Rag, Scar, and Neo to find out who the remaining scum is.

And as I've maintained, Neo's situation is far less complex compared to Scar's (and again if Scar really wanted to confirm himself he could have night killed me last night as opposed to a no hit happening -- or perhaps it truly was Neo using the night kill on Garen to confirm himself).


At this point that's all I've got so this will be my last post for today. My points are clear as is my stance on what is important. My vote will stay on Niklor as will my intent to vote to end day early. Feel free to discuss as much as you wish and when you're ready to end day early (if at all) you can do so with my consent.

Votes:

Niklor: Ragnarokio, NeoSilk, KoD, (3)
No vote: , GobO_Scarlet (1)
Good joke: Niklor (1)

Votes to end the day early:

2: Niklor, KoD