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(as a note, I'm really bad at reading these games, the above post is more for me to keep notes than anything else. anyone who has been in one of these games with me knows I tend to get quiet in later "days" since I have a hard time following it all. I'm trying for something different this game where I try and stay more active all the way through.)

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 4:10 pm 
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I long for the day, someday, when I can use more than one browser at work - and that one browser isn't limited to IE8 - so I don't have to keep remembering to log out and back in again...

Man, if IE8 was my only option I think I'd quit the boards.

Anywho (in order of how we signed up):

Ace of Moxes - mostly silent so far
Garren_Windspear - silent except for one joke
altimis - suggested a few people to look at, criticized Cofnused, and has made a lot of jokes
Mown - defended his position briefly and weakly
Scarlet - complained about my note about lynching but has added nothing despite three posts
Confused - asked for claims (possibly joking) but has seemed to flip-flop on that stance since
Zherog - has said nothing of value, only jokes
Elijin - a few jokes, but nothing of substance
felbatista - no posts as of yet
15377 - claims vanilla, suspicious of asking for claims
rstnme - joked around for a bit, defends Confused, keeps spotlight on altimis
seTiny - one joking post asking for Mafia to out themselves
seekeroftruth444 - has promised a finger pointing soon, but nothing yet


Personally, I'm looking at rstnme, he seems to be deflecting a lot.


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I'm deflecting? At least when I do my summaries I include myself!

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 4:14 pm 
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Fake edit: pseudo ninja'd by squinty. SE, I will say that while it might be helpful for you to summarize how your perceive other players behaving, it is also helpful, as you did in your follow-up post, to state why you're posting the way you're posting. I'm all about the "paper trails" that (I think) Arioch mentioned last game.

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Does anyone actually take Confused's request seriously? I thought it was an allusion to at least the previous 2 games, where people claimed early on.

@altimis the spotlight is kinda on you, but at least you look good!

I said deflecting because you're softening the blow on Confused and keeping the spotlight on altimis while noting that he looks town, thereby taking no sides and keeping things neutral. Neutral is bad in these games since days with little to no information and keeping people ambivalent allows lynches with a lack of majority vote and the mafia to get in easier shots. Well, that's my take.

And yeah, I don't see the point in doing reads on myself. Others will do that plenty, but over-analyzing your own words takes time and focus away from looking at others.

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Mown - defended his position briefly and weakly

Wait, was I supposed to defend my position from anything?

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Not really, just a notation about the Resistance game and all that. Again, these are just thoughts put down. On the plus side, they are generating conversation, which was basically my goal (along with trying to keep up with everyone). Also I was trying to get a handle on who was active thus far. Fourteen players are hard to keep track of for me.

Anywho, heading out now, so I won't be posting again until.... probably after midnight EST. Happy hunting.

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Zherog wrote:
*sigh*

I long for the day, someday, when I can use more than one browser at work - and that one browser isn't limited to IE8 - so I don't have to keep remembering to log out and back in again...

Honestly, I saw you browsing and I almost posted watch out before you post Zherog.
But, in the incident that you remembered, I didn't want to appear suspicious.

In hindsight, I should've done it anyways.

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I have a feeling whatever future boards I join I'll just use the name Soup. I think it was Z's invention, and I like it, so gratzi :D

Does anyone actually take Confused's request seriously? I thought it was an allusion to at least the previous 2 games, where people claimed early on.

@altimis the spotlight is kinda on you, but at least you look good!

I don't really, especially because it happened before the game 'officially' started. But at the same time it sounded different than seTiny's version. I'm going to say that it's just a difference of humor (considering the abysmal failure of early claiming in recent history), but I'm glad it sparked some sort of discussion.

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(as a note, I'm really bad at reading these games, the above post is more for me to keep notes than anything else. anyone who has been in one of these games with me knows I tend to get quiet in later "days" since I have a hard time following it all. I'm trying for something different this game where I try and stay more active all the way through.)

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There's no post above this on 20 pages showing. I found it hilarious :teach: And I make jokes because later on teh game gets pretty heavy/heated. I want people to know that I don't hold anything against them, so I joke quite a bit. Plus, I'm getting more used to the majority of this group which definitely helps.

Hey look I'm posting like Zherog now! :p

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You know what the issue of working on the other side of the pond from most of you is? I get home and find there's now five pages of content and suddenly I look like I've just been sitting here in silence. Of course that being said I haven't got anything to add at this juncture so let's just do random as normal.

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Pfft. You have a long way to go to match my walls of text, newb.

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I feel like after last game if fel is mafia we are screwed.

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 5:47 pm 
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altimis wrote:
felbatista because his posts are calculated, so I want to see in what way.


Trust me, I'm (almost) an engineer :teach:

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I feel like after last game if fel is mafia we are screwed.


And after the game before that, if I'm Town, we are screwed too.

Anyway, usual D1 for NGA. Lots of jokes, someone using Random.org to vote (one of these days we'll have to let it govern our actions to see what happens), Zherog posting as Fire, Alt attracting all the attention, people wanting to kill Scarlet for no reason... Feels like home, right? Two things stand out to me, though:

1. Lots and lots and lots of post for an early D1. It might not be that much when you compare to other sites, but here in NGA we're not that talkative in our Mafia games. Sure we have more people now, but even Confused is posting! And yet, almost 0 content was provided. It seems that everyone is more careful with their posts, not wanting to expose themselves for a reason. I think I have an explanation for that, and I'll expand it once I get point 2 out of the way.

2. The reaction to Confused's post about claims. Neo made the exact same thing last game and was met with Number's claim. This game, Confused found a vastly different reaction. I'm not saying everyone is expected to claim when someone asks, but why people were so negative towards that post? Was that only because D1 claims are supposed to be bad? Or there was another reason?

Numbers has a theory that met my thoughts exactly:

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I took the name chocolate and the allusions to a lack of vanilla to mean everybody has a role. In a situation such as that mafia wouldn't care if you had a role, but rather what your role is. Which makes fishing for specific role information far more suspicious in such a set up.


Ari is going to tell me how much of a bandwagoner I am for agreeing with him, but I can't help since I got the same impression about the game name. Of course I'm entering the realm of "outthinking the mod" here, but it's something to keep in mind.

Alt had another theory about Confused's post, involving the Fool role. He seems to be very adamant about Confused. What if Alt is actually the fool? He is, in fact, drawing attention, and that's exactly what you want when your goal is to be lynched.

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Alt had another theory about Confused's post, involving the Fool role. He seems to be very adamant about Confused. What if Alt is actually the fool? He is, in fact, drawing attention, and that's exactly what you want when your goal is to be lynched.


Then don't lynch me :p
My plan is working... :evil:

In all seriousness. I'm finally heading to sleep and I'll see what pops up when I awaken. As mentioned, there is a lot more conversation, but still a lack of content. This is clearly Day One Syndrome, but soon things will change.
Until then, I'll cast the first vote.

Vote: No Lynch
I mentioned earlier that I don't like lynching somebody day one unless there is something glaringly wrong with their actions. And I'm kind of leaning towards the no vanilla roles theory. It's fairly possible, and if it is true having one more person's ability activate before we start lynching people could be a decent play. AND the one thing town really needs is a win and thus far town hasn't won AND none of the games start with a no lynch I'm going to throw the idea out there that one thing we could change is that.

With that, I need to make one more post and good night.

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@altimis: I just want to apologize in advance and ask that you do your best to ignore any moderator questions / PMs I might accidentilly send you. I guess you really are in the spotlight!

@Garren, I have the same experience as you. I get off work and have a novella of text to read before I can even consider a response.

About the game name, I too assume that "Chocolate" indicates that everyone has a role of some sort. But I want to connect that to the concept ot D1 claims.

In other games, claims can be quite erratic, vanilla trying to draw attention or mafia trying to garner safety by way of having an ability. But in a game where everyone has an ability (or assumes this is the case), I feel early claims can only favor mafia. Especially seeing how 15377s claim in Old Port (an honest claim) got him night killed.

If a townie is made complacent by the Chocolate concept and decides to claim, mafia has a solid target for their NK.

So, because he brought it up - and because I do indeed believe he is crafty -

Vote: Confused

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Vote: No Lynch

For reasons: Read my above post where it's not bolded shadowed bigged and otherwise noticeable.

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I thought the joke was that this is a chocolate town so if you're a vanilla townie you're mafia? Way to combine xenophobia with a sweet tooth, Neo. #smh

This kind of reminds me of, "I am Legend," starring Will Smith.

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Makes me wonder if we can take this game at face value, or question everything.

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Confused wrote:
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Confused.

While not exactly a mafia maneuver, claiming during day one is usually the opposite of beneficial for town.


I am pretty sure we established that already.

We all know how day 1 goes, random yada, I shall FoS: seTiny for trying to act like a town asking the mafia to own up and for using that (imo) overly adorable tiger avatar.



You can have a adorable tiger avatar too, just head to Disney's Animal Kingdom and wait for them to get playful.


I had today off, and now I'm 3 pages behind. :/


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Vote: No Lynch
I mentioned earlier that I don't like lynching somebody day one unless there is something glaringly wrong with their actions. And I'm kind of leaning towards the no vanilla roles theory. It's fairly possible, and if it is true having one more person's ability activate before we start lynching people could be a decent play. AND the one thing town really needs is a win and thus far town hasn't won AND none of the games start with a no lynch I'm going to throw the idea out there that one thing we could change is that.

With that, I need to make one more post and good night.


This is only my second game so I may be off, but why would a no lynch be beneficial on D1? Let's say we do agree on a no lynch for today. That means we start D2 with someone being killed at night but no public information from day one. Then wouldn't that result in D2 being similar to D1?

Now I said public information because I understand there are a few roles that might get some information during the night. How does that help us on D2?

I'm genuinely asking. I know a lynch at this stage will more than likely result in a town member being lynched, but it seems to me that a no lynch would put the majority of us behind the eight ball.


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It changes percentages a bit.

Odds are a D1 lynch is town (though we could get lucky, of course). Then N1 another town dies, so on D2 we're already down 2 members. By going with the no lynch, D2 starts off with town only missing one person, but anybody who has a night role having their information - in addition to the information garnered from the kill itself (who, what that person's role - or lack of - was, who that person maybe argued with, who that person suspected, etc).

It's not a big difference, but that would be one mechanical reason to go for the no lynch.

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OK - open question - which do you all like better - showing the vote count in the quotes, or in tables?
Actually - unless someone objects, I'm going to use this format going forward.

Player | # Of Votes | Voting for
15377 | 0 | no vote
Ace of Moxes | 0 | no vote
Altimis | 0 | no lynch
confused | 1 | no vote
Elijin | 0 | no vote
felbatista | 0 | no vote
Garren_Windspear | 0 | no vote
Mown | 0 | no vote
rstnme | 0 | no vote
Scarlet | 0 | no vote
seekeroftruth444 | 0 | Confused
seTiny | 0 | no vote
squinty_eyes | 0 | no vote
Zherog | 0 | no vote

Other | Count
No Vote | 12
No Lynch | 1
Extension | 0


Number of votes to lynch = 8
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I like everything about this except the center alignment for the table and the numbers should be right-aligned. But that's my business/purchasing brain, so you can ignore it.

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I was going back and forth on the centered/not centered of the page, I'll do the next one not.
I don't believe I have any control over the numbers being right aligned. As far as I know.

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