Well, this is certainly odd.

Here's my problem with all your posts, Smiles.

First and foremost, I've read them.

Secondly, you're using WIFOM to justify yourself to us:





Note: Lurking is still playing. And lurking after a bus isn't a waste as, for example, I was town reading you strictly from the development of the CL wagon.

Third, you're being inconsistent:

Inattentive throughout most the game vs attentive now when you're posited as being in the PoE. Not caring about the game vs obv caring now -- enough so much as to make comments like



despite the obvious amount of care you are putting into your posts now. Your recent string of posts ring more like an appeal to emotion.


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I will grant that if you were scum, then it would've seemed more likely that you would have hammered me given your progression on me earlier; however, your progression on me is odd. Like Zinger and Faerie, you were critical of me to the point of trying to get me lynched before CL got got. Then you completely missed out on hammering me and saving Zinger (and you did post and Zinger told you you could swing the lynch to avoid a 50/50 rand). Now, you're not even after me. Instead, you're utterly focused on yourself.




@Tevish:

I'm the one that is town reading Silver hard due to my mistake with my vig shot against him.

Tevish is the person I think is the most likely wolf right now. You just sort of exist to me. Faerie and probably Silver has been towny. Dusk I'm sheeping Dark's legacy on.

My defence is not AtE, it's logic. Honestly bussing your only wolf buddy and not posting (because we can do semantics all you want here) is pretty much throwing tbh and feels like an insult were I to do it. The fact that you've zeroed in on me for all but giving up on the game after then is bad because I don't see how that's AI at all.

The fact that I went out of my way to move the vote onto CL when I had every right to stick to you (and was the deciding player choosing who to vote there) is clearing for me. Keeping a wolf alive for just another day even is huge.

Again, you're now back to reading people town for vigi shooting them and feeling guilty about it but you're ignoring my voting that should be honestly clearing for me.

If you're wondering why I've had no interest in the game: this is why. It's felt insanely cliquey the entire time and I don't think the neighbour mechanic has helped that. You're all townreading each other for awful reasons and that somehow means that the player who caused the critical vote movement onto a wolf is at the bottom of the PoE for zero reason and you can't all be wolves so it's super tilting.

I would like to get this game wrapped up soon tbh. This feels like torture.

That being said, I have a strong obligation to not let myself get miselimned as town. It's just a huge pain this game because you seem to have your head so far stuck in the sand that you're just not taking in my posts.

I'm not putting much care into my posts tbh I'm just having a massive "what has happened here?" moment. Like I'd love to work with you all but it feels downright impossible and it should be pretty obvious why I stopped caring about the game once the one person I could communicate to privately and reasonably with died.

Aaarrrgh's investigative role was based on positioning, and he was definitely town.


On a different note: We are missing the role that blocked KoD.
Faerie? Or a passive ability by Tevish?

Smiles, you have an odd way of projecting what you're saying. Remember that stuff you said to Tevish about doing more instead of rolling over if he's town? Where is that with you seeing as how you're the one saying that?

You being scum read is the natural progression through a lot of deliberation.

Take myself for instance. I've got no reason at this point to doubt Silver given the situation that led to me trying to vig him. Dusky, for her part, doesn't strike me as the last remaining scum given that she was the first vote to start the roll on CL (a compromise which allowed Faerie and I to budge from one another).

That leaves you, Tevish, and Faerie as the last ones for me to consider. You each have your ups and downs. Sitting there proclaiming you are obv town isn't doing it for me when, no, it isn't that obv that you are. Especially if you made a preemptive move to bus CL which would earn you points (and it did as evidenced by my earlier posts when assessing ppl in the game state back then).

Rather than actually assess you're playing the victim which does nothing to actually help the game state for town.

Again, what happened to your progression on me, hm? Why is it you haven't done more to assess Tevish or Faerie recently given the state of the game?

@Dusky:

CL was alive through D2. At the least, he could have been the source of the role block. Or the source of the ability that disabled Zinger's passive (I'd find it odd that Faerie would disable Zinger's passive like that when both were aligned against me at that point).

Smiles.... what do you want us to do? You were NOT on the chopping block till after Tevish in the first place, and that shouldn't even be a problem if you think he's mafia. You honestly would have looked a lot better without posting today and being mortally offended someone would even consider voting you / not immediately believe everything you say about your own meta.

You think I'm not cleared for swinging on CL both days. Could have stayed away easily both days. Yet you insist on being cleared for doing it once. See the problem?

I am inclined to believe you, but mostly because you are being so dramatic about and, and that is disappointing.

For emphasis.

and






There's the progression I was asking for concerning me.


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Eh, screw it. EoD1 VC had only Tevish out of Faerie and Smiles voting (on Arrgh). We get one mislynch, and have to hit right the next time if we're wrong the first time.

Vote: Tevish

We'll pick up from here if we're wrong about Tevish.

All the problems with Smiles' content, and even his determination that he's not invested in the game and hasn't been and we're still swinging on me? Would you not want the player who cares?

I've set up to evidence my claims.

I've provided content with reason.

I understand PoE (though I will say this game was the first time I recall seeing that particular acronym being used for mafia, so that's a thing). At least it's not game over if I swing, but I still want to know on what grounds I'm the first choice for today.

Well, honestly it's a rough pick. Do you know how paranoid I am of you?

Although I suppose you have your verified claim in your favor over Smiles. Dusky did the legwork in quoting some previous posts to show that your ability did do what you claimed.

She also quoted Smiles over bussing CL in which he gave contradictory responses.

So honestly, no, I don't want Smiles around. Either way you and he seem to be the top choices in the PoE though, for me, you're strictly out of paranoia.

And do you know how much that sucks? Faerie has progression that is odd at best. Smiles is -- well, forgetful at best which is being nice (it's that whole appeal to emotion thing).

And you, Tevish, are ever the beacon of reason which just keeps my paranoia on tilt.


@Dusky:

Let's swing at Smiles. At the bare minimum, he is being contradictory with his responses as your one post succinctly pointed out.

Silver, you too. Let's seal Smiles away and see where it leads us.

Unvote, Vote: Skystone

No takesies backsies.

Wow.

Unvote, Vote: Smiles

I literally had to take that back. Don't you do it.

The post I'm referring to. It captures the essence

Angry Smiles can go both ways. Frustrated smiles can go both ways. Smiles that drags "you saw me do this once therefore it is the only thing I've ever done" into play after fighting that box tooth and nail earlier is clearly confused.

Tevish is making sense as a Tevish that I have encountered previously. Now, as the points above go, one datapoint is hardly conclusive evidence, but... go with the devil you know, not the one you don't, right?

Both of Smiles and Tevish claim I can see it go both ways. Did Smiles ever use the partner swap? I see that Tevish claimed joat and the problem I have with the claim is that joat can also be a scum role.

Smiles never used the partner swap.

We're also missing the doc save from Lakitu (or w/e) since no one claimed that.

There was a roleblock (though that may have come from CL).

Claim-wise at least Tevish has evidence pointing to his claim being real. That's not the case with Smiles.


The only real issue I have, given Tevish's stated ability, is what if he gets my vig shot and gets a double kill tonight? We're at 6 alive, down to 5 from lynch than two possibly from mafia nk + vig shot which leaves 3. That works. It'll be LyLo, but at least it won't be an outright win. So we can afford to lynch Smiles here, and then Tevish.

You hear that Tevish? I'm actually ok with you not being lynched today.

I would prefer Tevish because he's scarier. But I am ok with Smiles.

Are we 100% convo there's 2 mafia and not 3? And KoD, do you have another vig shot or reason to believe there might be another one?

.... Ignore the dumb vig question. Don't know how I skipped reading that part.