Laur, for his part, just strikes me as off given how he appeared to me over in Wintreath and how he's been described by various others. He's very much a vocal person. He will make bold, if questionable, moves (though how often I can't say). The only thing I can say, to his benefit, is that maybe with this being an offsite game for him it may have him off his footing. That, or maybe I'm witnessing a scum Laur that chooses to play it safe by lurking in the shadows. Can go either way at this point as far as I am concerned.

Also, yeah, see, here's the problem: you called my reaction specifically out as an over-reaction, and then proceeded to ask if I'm prone to OMGUS, which implicitly shows that you think I have something to over-react to and therefore buy my derp. So shading the derp itself in the next sentence is nonsensical. Decide which narrative you wanna pull here.

What it shows is that I am curious as to whether you are the sort of player who fixates on perceived accusations. I, then, suggested that I am skeptical of your derp -- not that I know it canonically to be false.

It's unclear to me why you insist that my perceptions of you must be absolute.

Where did he say I posted differently on Wintreath?

I was answering your question. (Though I appreciate the IPA.)

I reiterate that the comment as a whole is singularly uncompelling as a reason for a FoS. But I guess we've answered my OMGUS query.

As far as I can find (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), he encouraged you to post more often and noted that you posted differently on Wintreath. Neither of these are compelling reasons to FoS him.


Do you find it unusual to examine others' strange or suspect play? This may come as a surprise, but much of scum behavior is not genuine.

Ergo, if I don't buy the derp, it behooves me (and town) to pursue your motivation.

Your use of conditionals is illuminating.

If you're reaching for a derp clear, then you are scum.

If not, then your weak response to KoD might be explained by if you have a tendency to OMGUS. (Plus, it also serves to affirm the likelihood of the prior case: If you don't tend to OMGUS, then your response to KoD is less likely genuine -- and it's more likely that your derp is fake.)

I am not omniscient, and therefore, in pursuit of the truth, it is my intellectual obligation to consider the full breadth of the possible options. No clear-headed thinker would stoop to committing to a black-and-white position based on a minimum of evidence from a player with whom they have barely ever interacted.

Also, this

This ought to go without saying, but it's only scummy based on KoD's perceptions. If he legitimately believes that to be your meta, then there is nothing suspect in his claim. How you view yourself is irrelevant.

Lmao, you're legit saying mafia doesn't always lie. That's hilarious.

Quoting posts apparently exceeds my abilities.

Still, it's bold of Laurentus to assume that I'd stake my game as scum on a de facto defense of a dead 3p player....


A mafia player who always lies would be incompetent. To wit, one of the pillars (?) of this communitynever lies, regardless of alignment.

I find that the most insidious scum tend to make the same arguments that town would.

Do you agree with the wording I settled on with Skystone?