Dark Scumhunter 3000


Wow.

I'll have you know that I am a driving force for the town and mafia in general. I am a being to be reckoned with. Especially when I am unleashed.

Currently I'm not unleashed. I'm just here. Doing my thing of SUSING Skystone out.


@Zinger:

I'm acting that way because, prior to this latest post of yours, it was hardly a confirmed fact that you have a PR. There's no concrete reason to necessarily believe that starting in a locked state auto makes you a PR. Your reaction to it, while weird, didn't necessarily confirm this more so than served as an avenue for you to argue for the support of Tevish being lynched over an assessment of his actions which I find to not be how you characterized them.

That's just me though.

That aside, your portrayal of Tevish doesn't make sense. First and foremost, Tevish stated he had a day ability iirc where he could target a player to check their status(?) or something to that affect. That's why he brought you up after having targeted you and getting the result. From a scum standpoint (generally speaking) there's no reason to out himself/draw attention to himself (in the manner you describe) for the sake of lynching you. Especially when that's not what advocated for in the first place (he only asked a question).

It's odd that you truly think the mafia may have no counter play to a locked player if the mafia nk can't be used on them (which, again, seems off since it is usually treated as a factional ability vs individual abilities like what we saw in Psyche Mafia though only one kill could be used at a time). Needless to say, that's not to say that the mafia nk will be treated as a literal ability that can't target a locked player. Period.

So no, I don't agree with your outlook on Tevish in the slightest. At best you're reacting in a manner similar to last game as town. At worst, given how you've angled your claim to a PR whatever it may be (again definition matters here as one could suspect that any non-vanilla role is a PR), then you may be mafia that is pushing for a player (town!Tevish) to be gotten rid of due to his ability and having targeted you. Imagine that with how vague you tend to be, a mafia role is considered a PR and you starting locked is an indication of that. Or perhaps pseudo-babyface? Either way, you're hardly the herald I would follow into the gates of hell (because I'd be up front leading).


@Faerie: Yeah, no, you certainly criticized per your M.O. That we know of anyway. Anyway, I don't mind Dark's approach thus far into the game. I certainly can agree to feeling similar about you, Faerie given last game (despite what you claim in your post about emulating your town plays).

@kod What are your reads? I see that your'e town reading Tevish and Darkstar and what are your reads on the other players?

Tevish I'm critiquing, based on what has occurred, to be inline with a previous play associated to a different game. I'm not exactly flat out town reading Tevish (as in I fully think he's town), but given the topic I am more inclined to think that he isn't scum based solely on what Zinger has brought to the table. After all, much of my responses concerning the topic at hand have been aimed mostly at how Zinger is interpreting things. For instance, all Tevish did was ask, based on a result he got, why Zinger was locked. Zinger, for his part, reacted in a negative way (towards Tevish), and he went on to scum read Tevish over it citing that only scum would do what Tevish did. That's something I do not agree with based, again, on a previous game. The same game that Zinger brought up to backup his assertions in an erroneous way.

All that said, Tevish has posed that question to Zinger, and responded to the accusation Zinger brought forth in a manner that I agree with. Do I strictly town read Tevish over it? No. If anything, I'm more partial to Tevish likely being town given the interactions, but strictly on what Tevish did initially I didn't really town read him over it. The interactions being the key thing as well as the likely consequence of those interactions (like scum openly trying to lynch Zinger per Zinger's assertion).



I don't know that I particularly town read Dark. Sure, I agreed with his point concerning you, but I wouldn't call that the basis for a town read. Nor necessarily for scum reading you. Although if I had to compare the two of you, I'd place Dark closer to a townie label than I would you at this point in time.

Speaking of lists, Faerie, you going to give us a list, or are you going to try to skirt by today like you did last game as scum?

This game features a Locked and Unlocked system. This will have differing effects, depending on what is being locked or unlocked. The most common of these will be players. While a player is locked, they are not affected by non-lock abilities (specifically abilities that neither lock or unlock a player) and cannot use abilities of their own. Lynches can still be performed on Locked players. Locked players may Unlock themselves at will, but will only become unlocked at the beginning of the next cycle. Unlocked players function normally.

But as far as Tevish goes, there's no scum motivation for the approach he's taken as he's not implied anything malicious when he first questioned you as to why you are locked. And again, he hasn't pushed for the idea of your lynch. That's something you're entirely pushing yourself as far as the narrative, for you, goes.

Tevish I still don't know what to think about him since I saw some players saying his play is nai and his read on me looked like a meta read which I don't like because in my recent completed scum games I emulate my town games.

Even if you are right and that conclusion is drawn from my hidden information, the Mafia should be just as aware of that as I am.

Leaving the rules aside, then, what information would you propose they possess that would yield the same conclusion?