There is one thing that's sure though.

I will lynch someone. But I will not make the final decision. I'll vote for whoever has 2 votes at the end.

Alright, enough musings, gonna read back for a bit. There is still something nagging me, I just have to find out what it is.

I'm fully aware of your perspective. That is, the whole having to trust former scum and all that jazz.

Let me be clear though. So far we've had, from what we've seen in the game, one person possessed and it moved on to someone else as opposed to staying on the same person. It's fully possible that when choosing who to possess it is randomly determined without including the current possessed person.

Take us for instance. I claimed to have been possessed last night. Possession would then be a chance between you, Garen, and Eli (I see no reason not to include Eli for being potentially possessed again since it is random from my perspective). Now, I can't prove it's random. It may be linear like you seem to think, but you can't prove it is linear either (in that it continuously possesses people that were not possessed previously).

If you follow my belief (and suspend the idea that possession won't retarget the person it was on when moving to the next person), then, except for you, the rest of us are all suspect. That is fairly reasonable.

If you follow my belief and refer to the fact that Rubik wasn't repossessed and Eli wasn't repossessed immediately following their initial possession, then you can exclude me being possessed and yourself due to Garen. This, I find, to be more reasonable than the above.

If you follow your belief (and include that it is linear in the sense that it will go after people that haven't been possessed), then your only option is Garen. Any variation on this will extend to include both Eli and myself in your suspicions.

In the end I'm sure you know all this so it isn't necessary for me to post it. I only do so for completeness sake. As for what I've mentioned concerning my PMs from the mod, you're right. You can't confirm it. In that respect, though, you really shouldn't be trusting Eli either if you are considering doubting me (since this would imply you believe in repossession in which case the two of us (Eli and I) are fair game). If you do believe Eli though, you will be forced to believe me since a belief in Eli implies a belief in your linear possession theory.

Or, you know, you could just believe Eli and not believe me to spite me. That works too even though it isn't logical.

BTW, are we at an understanding about the whole "my perspective" bit concerning me prior to Eli confessing? Or do you think I had an entirely different agenda despite the fact knowledge was hidden from us thanks to Eli?

One more thing.

Scar


I've offered something within the context of the game to backup what I've been saying. Aside from just disagreeing with me due to "bad game design", can you tell me 100% beyond a shadow of doubt that what I've stated isn't the case?

@KoDYeah, I read your big post at the start of day again. Of course not. Nothing is 100 percent in this game. For me it's all about the mathematics. The bigger percentage wins. Even if it's 51/49
And I've yet to decide how big a percentage your claims will help me.

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Alright, so let's see if I have the complete picture of the switching with all claims combined (not going to judge truth/false yet, just an overview):

Game starts. Neo = Cultist, PoPa and Rubik are possessed.
D1/N1 PoPa and Rubik are together in a QT. There is no mention of a 3rd person. A town Rubik (which he was at that point) would have mentioned that third one though.
At the end of N1: Rubik --> Eli
D2/N2: Eil and Neo in a QT. Eli was not able to make a decision for N2. Was able to make a decision for N3. Choose not to kill.
At the end of N2: Eli --> KoD.
N2/D3/N3: KoD can make decision about N2. Doesn't because he missed it.
At the end of N3: KoD --> ??? (current target. Not me.)

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So given that the claims regarding N2 were both made during this day it seems obvious that the conundrum and final solution of this game sits there.
And we're back at the last few days again. Eli vs KoD.

The problem is that both of you made a claim that is counter-intuitive with either Rubik or each other.
KoD: The choice for kill on N2 if Eli made a choice at N2. This is of course against Eli's claim that he had control over the N2 kill and choose not to.
Eli: The QT that includes Neo, who was confirmed not to be in Rubiks (Rubik had no reason to lie anymore when he was town)

Now to look back at some other stuff: Elis claim
I said before why I think that's weird.
During D2 Kod and myself were pretty gung ho about trying to confirm Rubik somehow and figure out the game. After all, that was pretty crucial town info since at that time only the (former) Possessed would know about the surroundings of the possession.
Not coming forward D3 if you were possessed D2 wasted a Rubik lynch that was extremely easy to stop just by coming forward at the start of D3. It was by that time obvious that I would not vote for Rubik if his claim was true, and 15377 would also have to come around on Rubik. We would've saved the doc.
I remembered something about the free-moving possession. I did some calculations and with 2 possessing ghosts going around:
1 = Neo
D1: 23, 2 town die (45)
D2: 67, 2 town die (89)
D3: ??? (2-1-2. Game is still on but no-one left for possession?)

The conclusion seems to be that repossession is possible

And the locked possession does not match up with any game-altering event. A random ghost lock after N2 makes no sense.

So, to conclude:
Elis claim was after KoDs claim, but contradicts some info give by Rubik and from KoDs claim.
The lack of info at D3 regarding Rubik wasted the towns lynch on the Doc of the game. Unless he didn't have that info because he wasn't possessed.

I might change my mind again soon, but I think it's time to make a stand. Time to make a guess.

Vote: Eli

Well that settles that then.

Vote: Elijin

Alright, Eli is pretty damn near confirmed to have been possessed based by a post from Altimis this day, but still the handling of D3 stands out.

So is this it now? Can we change votes around or are we effectively just waiting for Altimis to get up and confirm?

Eli


That's good enough for me. Beats listening to Eli talk about how absurd what I've been saying is and how he believes it isn't probable.

Well hello there Garen.

And Scar, the main issue for me today, after all the vines were cut away, was the issue of repossession.

I may have entertained ideas that Eli may not have been possessed or the such, but really my pursuit against Eli was strictly based on how he was acting today and the idea that repossession is possible.

If it is possible, I'd rather pursue Eli than Garen on the off chance Garen wasn't possessed today. If Garen is the scum though, he can't win now and will end up turning town. If he wants to win as town, he'll have to no-hit tonight and help lynch whoever he doesn't confirm tomorrow.

At this point, it is pretty much a guaranteed town win.

Exactly. Yeah I'm possessed but I'm not going to risk killing someone and getting a scum win when I can just not kill someone and get a guaranteed town win tomorrow. Guaranteed win beats potential win.

See? And I'm ok with that. Even if it was I who was lynched, it would still be a situation where town would be guaranteed to win.

I just wanted Eli out of the picture based on the possibility he may be possessed and because I find him to be reckless. After all, he did conceal info from us. Who knows what he might do next?

But yeah, I'm ok with this. Just... Don't go pulling that trigger Garen. *Wink wink nudge nudge.*

Don't worry about it. So long as Alt doesn't confirm my suspicions in the QT I won't be murdering anyone. I value my own survival too much to take a needless risk.

Okay. I would request that you pause the current conversation for the moment while I calculate... the votes

VOTES (3 to lynch)
(3) Elijin - KingofDominaria, GobO_Scarlet, Garren_Windspear
(1) KingofDominaria - Elijin


Elijin has been lynched. Elijin was the Honest Archaeologist.

Dark vaporous clouds start pulsating from the walls in the room mixing in the air with Elijin's dying shrieks. When the darkness overcomes you with silence, you shudder.

How much more of this can you take?
How much more will people suffer?

Will anyone escape alive?

Night Ends Tuesday/Wednesday Midnight. 52.25 hours from this post.

No more speaking. It would've been nice if you guys stopped talking once the vote had been placed (and lynching suspected), but I can't hold that against you. Just a note for all of us in the future.

Elijin, you do get a farewell post. No, you cannot talk strategy

I know that I posted a fairly short deadline, but something has come up and I may have to extend it.
I will leave it short, because it can resolve quickly, but if it doesn't I may extend Night up to another 48 hours.

Just an FYI to all.

Just as a note, I will be starting Day 5 this midnight instead.
I have all the information I need, and I took care of what I needed to take care of.

This is your hour warning.

Day Five

As the darkness dissipates, you notice something horrible. There are only two others in this room with you. Are they friend, are they foe? They both look at you with determination and fear in their eyes. You try to reciprocate the feeling.
Your numbers have dwindled to a trio. Will this never end?

Day Ends: Friday/Saturday Midnight, 96 hours from this post.

Garen, who did you get for your target?