Your masters reasoning is flawed, Tevish. Claiming a win doesn't mean you have nothing to lose for one thing, but we need more facts if we're going to make any sense of what's really going on.

Rubik voted for Rag yesterday (when rag allegedly was not cult) instead of either wagon. And today has won the game. (allegedly) This points to Rag being the agitator here.

Can we be sure either Zinger or Rubik hasn't sided with Rag behind scenes?

I haven't killed anyone this game, though I did try to kill rag for poisoning me when I was town joat that didn't actually work.

I would rather rag lose this game if possible for killing me n1 but I'm not really interested in scheming or hurting anyone else to accomplish it.

I'd rather the cult win because it's silly. I have nothing to do with any kills that occurred, though, I'm literally just a neighbor with JD.

i didn't target anyone last night and naga doesn't have a targeting role

i'm voting rubik because zinger wants me to

i considered the possibility that if zinger culted everyone it would only result in his victory and not the cult's, and that it was thus in the cult's interest to turn on zinger, but i don't think its plausible enough to matter.

right now we have 7 player alive, 3 of whom are cult. If zinger ever dies cult could lose the ability to keep parity, so its pertinent for cult members to lynch non-cult right now probably, and doesn't matter too much which we lynch. Hitting whoever is killing is probably ideal.

hows he doing

Possibly, but if you wanted me to gainsay Zinger it would have been when I was still town. We should have ended it day 2.

hi zinger

oh hai

I'm voting Rubik because I don't know who killed Naga.

If someone claims the kill on Naga, I will be swayed to not vote Rubik. Otherwise, Rubik hangs yo.

I'm torn. Blindly following the claimed cult would mean playing against my current win condition, which I don't want to do. On the other hand, considering the fact that my win condition is likely to change soon makes this confusing. Not that it matters, because cult should be able to get the lynch they want no matter what I do, so I guess I'll sit this one out.

What....if.... it's like when you kill the head vampire and all the minions go back to town and all is forgiven.

Sure. But they already control the lynch vote and Zinger is supposedly bulletproof, so good luck with that.

Bah I say. We'll just get bigger guns and bigger votes

I'm fine dying, but I'm the second least likely killer, probably.

Cult wins aren't worth trying to fight when they get going.

Shock can bring Naga back and we can ask if Naga targeted CL last night.

Idk what shock's wincon is.

Zinger, I would take absolutely zero joy from trying to screw you out of a win. The only time I'd do that is if our wincons weren't compatible, but I've already won and I value the rest of the game winning with me over my life and a chance of a double win if it comes to that. I'm fine dying, but I have nothing to do with the death that occured and I'd like for everyone to be able to win and killing me either means missing a chance to kill the actual culprit or does nothing.

Rubik, I don't know if you've full-claimed, but if you have I missed it and can't be bothered to go looking for it.

Who keeps reviving people? Who is killing people? Do the revived players have the same role they had when they died? These are questions I don't know the answers to. I don't like not knowing the answers. I think you are tied to at least some of these unanswered questions, so, I vote.

I'm pretty sure I've claimed everything but here, this should make things easier:

My first role was a town-aligned JoaT. I had a cop shot, a kill, a roleblock, and a protect. None of them did anything useful (killing rag didnt work, cop came up town for rag). I was poisoned by rag and died. Amber inherited both my role and the poison which then killed her.

My second role was Amber's original role. The alignment is ancient egyptian and has no win condition. That role had the power to bring another player back to life and assume their role. That player would in turn gain the Egyptian role.

My third (and current) role is Shock's first role, and Shock is now the Ancient Egyptian. I'm a self-aligned player in a neighborhood with JD. I was able to set my own win condition and I chose one that I fulfilled instantly. I've been told my win can't be reversed, but that I can win multiple times. I'd prefer to also win with the cult.

I hope this helps.

I think there's a good chance had Naga killed himself because Lunch is, in theory, a paranoid gun owner which is a role that kills anyone who targets them. I would imagine if someone were actually trying to sabotage your cult, they'd have just killed you and not Naga.

I also imagine if a cult player were brought back by the Egyptian ability they'd probably maintain their new alignment because the poison thing persisted.

This is all information I've given, just on a day-by-day basis.

Also, if I could kill players I would have probably killed rag, which I tried to do d1 after rag poisoned me like a jerk.

I guess rag killing me won me the game so I don't really have much reason to be mad about that anymore.

i only killed you d1 because someone told me too and because i didn't want to kill amber (i think it was CL?)

@zinger: rubik's original role was joat and he died and flipped that. amber's original role was ancient egyptian amnesiac. they had the ability to target a dead player and gain their role. they did that on n2 and claimed d2 that they gained rubik's role. Rubik was also ressurected as an ancient egyptian amnesiac, and when he targeted shock last night, who is now alive. Rubik also now has shock's role. So in short, rubik is almost certainly not the killer.

Also apparently your poison killed neither me nor Amber.

Apparently it was from the JoaT. My best guess is that it's a JoaT that self targets.