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Round 11 format options
No Lands: All land cards are banned for this round. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
3 Fold: Players submit 3-card decks. Each player starts the game with three copies of each of those cards in his or her hand. 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
Merry-Go-Round: If a card would be put into a graveyard, it's put into the opponent's library instead. 42%  42%  [ 5 ]
Peasant: Decks must be (un)commons only. Maximum 1 uncommon allowed. 25%  25%  [ 3 ]
Medallion 3CM: All spells cost 1 colorless mana less to play. 25%  25%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 12
Total voters : 7
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:07 pm 
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Now to find out what all those schemes do...

There really aren't that many relevant ones. Some of them are "choose self or other" which do nothing when there's only one opponent, unless I'm reading them wrong.


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Yeah, Filobel is right. Many of them do not do much in a duel.

So, can I have further opinions on Every Hope Shall Vanish?
I'm also considering banning Nature Shields Its Own, simply because it would be very hard to get past it in this format.

Finally, what are your opinions on the schemes which allow you to destroy multiple permanents (there are three or four). Should we allow them all, and force ourselves to play around them, or do we ban them all?

I'll try to lock in a deck ASAP so that I can keep an eye out for anything too degenerate.

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Behold the power of destruction should probably be banned. Free one sided planar cleansing is just as warping as free one sided show and tell.

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It's ludicrously difficult to make a deck that is able to power through a 5/5 dragon each turn, a one-sided nonland nuke, losing one permanent of each type each turn, discard spell a turn, threathen, saproling swarm or that jackass that copies whatever you do.
However, I don't see then need to ban anything.

Nature Shield's its own is possible, but at the same time, I can't imagine a deck that uses it will be able to win against anyone using a disruptive scheme.

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Mown wrote:
It's ludicrously difficult to make a deck that is able to power through a 5/5 dragon each turn, a one-sided nonland nuke, losing one permanent of each type each turn, discard spell a turn, threathen, saproling swarm or that jackass that copies whatever you do.
However, I don't see then need to ban anything.

It's only for one turn. Once during the game you can activate a scheme. So you only get 1 dragon, 1 discard, 1 threaten, etc.
So there's sure to be something bad.

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Wait wait wait what.
Now this round is way less interesting.
Also my deck doesn't work anymore, so I should go fix that as well.

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The fact that thiughtseize and things are banned but not schemes with identical effects seems silly.

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I think I broke the meta.

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The thing is, this meta will either always be slightly broken, or not much different than a vanilla round.

But yes, if you got your scheme effect every turn, it would easily get beyond bizarre. But heck, if this round turns out alright, we might do it again with repeatable schemes sometime in the future.

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The thing is, this meta will either always be slightly broken, or not much different than a vanilla round.

But yes, if you got your scheme effect every turn, it would easily get beyond bizarre. But heck, if this round turns out alright, we might do it again with repeatable schemes sometime in the future.


This will be fun but I forsee everyone drawing to everything all the time.

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There are some promo schemes bot listed on gatherer but on cards.info.whatever can we use these?

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Could you please provide a link?

Also, so far I have not seen the need for any additional bans. The submitted decks vary wildly, and there is a nice amount of rock-paper-scissors, so I think it's safe.

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http://magiccards.info/extra/scheme/arc ... uries.html

Everything under this. Just like there are promo planechase planes that came with events and certain sets, there are promo schemes.

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So, finally got around to update the OP with Round 1 results. Congratulations CommanderJim for the full sweep! Please send me a format suggestion by PM ASAP.

Round 2 will close in approximately 10 hours.

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Wait, I thought we had to win an alternate format round to suggest a new alternate format.

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Where is my score? D:

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@CommanderJim: Nope, everyone who wins a round gets to suggest a format. I think once we have seven or eight formats, I'll start dropping them once they have been on the poll for a few weeks without being picked.

@LilyStorm: What are you talking about? It's right there in the list, between Jac and Filobel.

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Uh huh >.>

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