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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:57 am 
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Maybe you should consider that JD is possible self aligned and you should not be taking claiming advice from him.


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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:18 am 
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OP has alignment breakdown, it does not include self aligned players.

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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:33 am 
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Maybe you should consider that JD is possible self aligned and you should not be taking claiming advice from him.


its him thats taking claiming advice from me if anything

and JD is among my top scumspects for today

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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:18 am 
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Yeah mine too


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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:25 am 
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Like when I want to lynch KoD its a gd pain. But JD does it easy peasy.


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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:57 pm 
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That's because you do things obstinately whereas I say if you want something done you just do it by yourself. :teach:

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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:36 pm 
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You mean with a little help from your scum buddies. That you clearly bussed for town pants in lylo.


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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:41 pm 
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Actually this game should be solvable with just a little meta and a vote count analysis


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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:20 pm 
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Ragnarokio wrote:
I'm fine with you claiming last but I will count it against you when reading your alignment

since a lot of people seem intent on delaying their claims i'll claim now in the interest of speeding things up even though i could technically catch people with my claim

I'm a miller


Any peculiar variant that could shot us in the foot if you die without claiming it?


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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:20 pm 
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If we're doing full-claims, I would like to see everyone's role names along with their claims. I could care less about what abilities you've got up your sleeve, but I can't cop you without a full and accurate role name.

For example, I am "Curiosity, Maiden of Prying Eyes", innocent-aligned Investigator. JayDreven is "Alice, Wanderer of the Looking Glass", presumably an innocent-aligned Jack of All Trades.

Of that, I am looking for the parts in bold to be revealed by all of you. Make sure you get your spelling right, because liars will be assumed to be Mafia.

I recommend we lynch anyone today who doesn't comply with this request.

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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:10 pm 
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Need to think about it. I can say I'm "D, Q o U S" tho.


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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:37 pm 
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HW is an ice cream shop yo. (Sorry, I just want ice cream).

@Monster, I'm a Dreaming God variant titled Enigma for the record.

@Rag, here's the list:

Rise Triumphant. See the Truth. Reflection, Refraction. All just a dream. Dance of the Hours. Bleeding Heart. Clean slate. Mad Tea Party. Loki's Wager.

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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:38 pm 
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Neat


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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:28 pm 
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well guess we'll just do this
i'm the dreaming girl
that's the name btw there's nothing else

pretty sure i got shot yesterday and it got redirected to goose

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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:33 am 
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well guess we'll just do this
i'm the dreaming girl
that's the name btw there's nothing else

pretty sure i got shot yesterday and it got redirected to goose


on what basis?

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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:40 am 
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this game is probably solvable based on role information alone

we have a missing kill (there was a no kill N2, which could have been caused by KoD poisoning that night, but in that case there was a no kill last night) and so someone must have caused that. Assuming there will only be 1 kill per night from now on we have three lynches left before we lose (with two mislynches and two NKs bringing us down to 3 players

amber is confirmed town unless someone counterclaims in which case we win the game
whoever stopped the NK is also confirmed town unless someone counterclaims or mafia submitted a no-hit by mistake or as a galaxy-brain play.

discounting amber and whoever stopped the NK we have a 1/5 chance of hittting scum today, a 1/4 chance tomorrow, and a 1/2 chance on the last day. These odds are probably better in reality because town has a lot of info to improve their lynching odds. Town win chance is probably at something like 80-90%, but if town has any tools which can help narrow the POE further then that number could feasibly reach 100%

i really do recommend that everybody claim today, both because forcing scum to commit to a claim will significantly reduce their weasel space in the future and because its feasible that whatever information people can claim will significantly increase our winning odds.

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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
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Ragnarokio wrote:
well guess we'll just do this
i'm the dreaming girl
that's the name btw there's nothing else

pretty sure i got shot yesterday and it got redirected to goose


on what basis?

depending on how much stock we put into the flavour of the death scene at the beginning of today, which stated that the intended target didn't die, which would fit with 'if i die then someone else dies instead'

probably not worth thinking too much about though, could just be a flavour thing

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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:13 am 
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Need to think about it. I can say I'm "D, Q o U S" tho.

Is that supposed to be an acronym, or is your full role name just a handful of letters?

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 Post subject: Re: [Mafia] Psyche Mafia
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Ragnarokio wrote:
we have a 1/5 chance of hittting scum today, a 1/4 chance tomorrow, and a 1/2 chance on the last day. These odds are probably better in reality because town has a lot of info to improve their lynching odds. Town win chance is probably at something like 80-90%, but if town has any tools which can help narrow the POE further then that number could feasibly reach 100%

You mean tools like an alignment cop like me?

I feel like people keep glossing over my claim. I am a full alignment cop on any players whose exact names I know, otherwise I am just a role name cop. It's Day 4. Anyone who is against at least claiming names to give me the power to hunt the last mafia player is actively hurting town.

Unless you don't believe my unchallenged cop claim and think I am the last mafia player, you should all comply and give me your names. Mafia has let me live because they aren't afraid of a name cop, and they probably don't think y'all are smart enough to give me the tools to do my job.

Give me names so I can alignment hunt at Night.

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M0nster wrote:
Need to think about it. I can say I'm "D, Q o U S" tho.

Is that supposed to be an acronym, or is your full role name just a handful of letters?


Pretty sure it's just an acronym. Also what did you do last night? If you name checked somebody and are waiting to see if they lie a simple "name checked, will reveal later" will suffice.

@everybody else, with the dreaming girl outted (per the day post), there's no reason to hold back on name claims now. Wether it is amber or not, the day post highly indicates scum already know who she is. The only thing holding back on name claims will do now is slow down Monster, which without reason to believe monster is scum isn't very pro town.

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