True.

What does it prove if he targets you again tonight and gets the same result? (I think that is what you are saying because it seems you left out a word or started another thought mid sentence.)

I don't think I left out any words. I was not encouraging to target me again, though you certainly can. If you like, I can tell you how accurate his answer was to my activities, but it will reveal to the wolf whether I am or am not the healer.

That seems a worthwhile discussion. What's the thoughts on me revealing whether or not Neo was accurate in his account of my activities or lack-there-of last night?

I am personally slightly opposed because it will either reveal the doc (in other words me) or I take myself out of the equation of targets who could be the doc. I will leave the decision mostly up to the rest of you, though.

I was not informed as to how much I drank. I did ask numbers about that before the game started, and he let me know that I would not get the full picture.
I don't believe that anyone else should claim (if the wolf wants to, I'd not stop that) but the town power roles should be hidden.

I'm not sure if my claiming at this point was right, but, I was afraid that my hints earlier (like the obv one about asking who would you target if your were guard) were too easy, and that I might have gotten NK'ed without passing the one tiny piece of info that I've gotten so far.

I have no plans to target Niklor again tonight.

Revealing the healer whether overtly or through process of elimination is not advisable.

So it looks like we can't accurately test Neosilk's ability

We don't need to waste the guardsman on the hunter, the fact that two people die will be enough evidence.

We can eliminate some possibilities just by having him use it, the vast majority of people he looks at should theoretically be doing no night actions.

Evidence that the hunter is the hunter yes.

I was talking about figuring out the quirks of Neosilk's ability*, but as Niklor pointed out the hunter can only provide one data point and we would need two.




*

neo being potentially unreliable doesn't change a lot. We should still treat niklor as town and have neo continue clearing people in that fashion, targeting someone new each night.

What it does mean is that we can't rely entirely on role abuse for an easy win. I doubt we would have anyway. We should get back on track with scumhunting, focusing on people who aren't on neos's cleared list. If we ever hit LyLo or neo runs out of targets, that's the time to begin looking at people who were previously cleared.

Cleared
Niklor
Neosilk

Not Cleared
KingOfDominaria
Lilan
Zinger
Freddeh

Basically, we're looking at one of KoD, me, Zinger, and Freddeh for tomorrows lynch, and unless PP was the healer and the wolf gambles on killing neo tonight, we should see that list shrink to 3 tomorrow.

Day 2: 7-1
Day 3: 5-1
Day 4: 3-1 (LyLo)

We have two more lynches and two more investigations before we hit LyLo, if i did the math right. If the wolf tries to hit neo then LyLo will probably be pushed back a day.

if neo's ability was literally just a coinflip you'd still need more than two results before you could be confident in how it worked. It's not worth testing.

You're missing tiny from that list there lilan.

Umm..........

you're a non-factor

Poor seTiny.

@Numbers, are there any roles NOT listed in the OP that are in the game?

Inb4 Rubik was actually a jester.

EBWOP: 'is' actually a jester.

it is called a semi open setup but i think the spirit of the game is probably roughly what was listed

Yes, but I didn't assign them to anybody so you don't have to worry about them. Or more succinctly, no.

As excited as I would be to be clear, we shouldn't just use the guardsman list to clear people. To support feelings, sure, but we shouldn't rely on it. If I suddenly do something very strange, look closely at it.

In other news, I don't feel that anyone has really been lurking as we come closer to day's end. Aren't we all doing great. Round of applause.

freddeh and zinger haven't said a lot as far as i can remember but i'd need to doublecheck
i think freddeh was out of town until like yesterday though

You are correct Lilan. Out of everyone who has contributed today, Fred and Zinger have contributed the least which is why I asked for their thoughts earlier (and they offered a post each). They are the closest we have to lurkers.

There are 8 players left alive, one of which is definitely not the wolf and is dying today (Rubik). That leaves us with 7. Right now, if we are to believe Neo's claim, our chance of killing the wolf is 1 in 6. Thinking...