Hm. Was anyone in Limbo last round? Would it be worth checking it out next round since I'm already here (2nd circle)?

Did we ever figure out what circle two did? I think the only ones we know are Greed (1.5 vote), Anger (Revenge Vote x2), and Heresy (Vote + Self Vote).

"Numbers" is not a player in this game.

Perhaps you meant to vote 15377?

CANTO 2.2

Upon this journey, whence thou givest him vaunt,
Things did he hear, which the occasion were
Both of his victory and the papal mantle.
Thither went afterwards the Chosen Vessel,
To bring back comfort thence unto that Faith,
Which of salvation’s way is the beginning.
But I, why thither come, or who concedes it?
I not Aeneas am, I am not Paul,
Nor I, nor others, think me worthy of it.
Therefore, if I resign myself to come,
I fear the coming may be ill-advised;
Thou’rt wise, and knowest better than I speak.”

razorborne (1): NeoSilk

razorborne is at MAJORITY MINUS SIX

OK - so, no nicknames, eh?

Unvote:
Vote: 15377

Wait. So only your first vote counted but you didn't get a nega-vote.

I thought you were wacky with your theory about razorborne, but you already have a different voting behavior. I thought your theory was wacky, because why would divine and inferno be treated any differently. It would put divine at a bigger disadvantage than just being the minority.

Going back through the thread you were in the 8th circle and are now in the 6th circle? You've got some good movement there. Since normal movement is up one and down two.

Also there is a possibility you are not affected by the circle you are in. We never did learn what being in the 8th circle did, as your voting seemed to work normally. Now the 8th circle may not affect voting, but now this is two circles that don't seem to be affecting you.

I guess I should mention that as well - I've got the ability to double move at night. So, I was able to drop from 8th to 6th in one night.
But yes, it seems to me that this circle does not have the same negative impact to me that it did to Razor. The only thing that I can think of is that he's not of the same alignment that I've got. Which, is why I'm voting for him, since my goal is to lynch Dante, and I would assume that Dante is divine aligned.

All assumptions at this point, but, it's better than random shots in the dark!

Circle 2 apparently gets no votes, since I voted HW, who already had votes, and nothing happened.
And I forgot to move out last canto.

So you want me to believe that you knew Razor had a drawback, but had to ask why Razor had extra votes on him and weren't sure what was generating the drawback you supposedly knew Razor had? Mmkay....

Frankly I find your whole method to be a bit convoluted. You've made an assertion off of one player's actions, have made no effort to test this theory with others beyond yourself, or expanded this theory beyond the circle Razor was in. You jumped two levels to get to this circle, with what seems to be the clear intention of using it to no effect, which I can only assume you're doing so that you can railroad people that end up there themselves, or maybe you assumed everybody would vacate it to avoid the apparent effect? Either way, I have no doubts in my mind that you knew your vote wouldn't garner anything extra beforehand.

Tunnel vision much?

I've made efforts to test (pretty much all I've done this Canto) and even tried to enlist others to help, with no luck. I've been testing, trying to figure things out, you, on the other hand, have not. In fact, I'm struggling to find anything helpful you've done all game.

When I asked the question about Razor, I didn't know if it was a drawback on him, for what circle he was in, or a benefit for someone else, for being in another circle. Now, it looks like it was a negative for him.

And now, you're reading my mind?


Wait....so, you criticize me for making no effort to test out a theory, and then criticize me for moving, in an obvious effort to test out a theory? Well...which is it? You can't have it both ways...

So far, in my limited mafia experience, the person who tunnels into someone specifically and tries to sway people away from useful conversation always has an ulterior motive. What's yours, numbers? You're not trying to help with scum hunting, you're doing the opposite.

I've been crystal clear with my motives here - I'm looking to lynch Dante. Barring that, I'm going with the assumption that lynching divine players is in my best interest. What's your motives here? You seem to be trying to distract from people trying to get info - does that mean you know everything already?

Open question to others - does what numbers is saying make sense to you? Am I missing something? It could be, since I'm the only one who knows I'm telling the truth, maybe it does seem more suspicious than I realize. But, to me, it just seems like numbers is trying to derail any type of useful conversation.

Interesting. Then I see no reason not to go up to limbo and see what it does. Aaaarrrgh was in 3 and he died....


Are you still alone in 2?

PLOT TWIST!
Dante is Inferno-aligned!

MUWAHAHAHAHAHahahahahah!

For realz now.

I'm suspicious that NeoSilk can move double, but at the same time it would make sense as an inferno ability or a comedy ability.
I doubt a divine would have that ability, though I suspect him more to be comedy than inferno.

Hello_world. You voted Aaarrgh first by saying that it was a serious vote



Which you gave a reason as hoping he would act scummily after a serious vote.



You unvoted him and voted again. Why? It seems you were right, if you are inferno. With 4 days left you say lets get to scumhunting but seem to leave your vote and hunting right on aaarrrgh who ultimately died.

Scarlet's still the only one "in my circle".

So picture of canto 1:

2 Storyteller
3 Aaarrrgh
4 Hello_world, seTiny, felbastita
5 altimis
6 rstnme, razorborne
7 shockwave07
8 neosilk
9 garren

all scarlet

Unkown: 15377


Canto 2 so far:
2 Storyteller
3
4 seTiny
5
6 rstnme, razorborne, Hello_world, neosilk, altimis
7
8
9

all scarlet

Unkown: 15377, felbastita, shockwave07, garren



15377 is the only one I could not find circle information on. Given the flavor source for this game I would imagine that Dante has the ability to kill someone in his circle. Since in the flavor source he was the only doing the "killing" not lucifer. The problem with this theory is IF 15377 was in the same circle as aaarrrgh he did not move to circle 2 or 4. He could have possibly moved to circle 5. Is there anyone there that can say who else is there?

Yes you are, that's why I'm jumping on you.



Seems to me you haven't. Yesterday Soup was in 6 with Razor. You made a nice assumption about Razor's alignment being the reason for the effect on him receiving extra votes. Logic dictates that you ask Soup to vote for somebody to see if the same thing happens to him. Did you? No. What was your "testing" yesterday. You unvoted Razor, then asked somebody else to vote Razor, even after noting yourself that Razor got an extra vote after voting somebody else. Tell me how this is you trying to test out the circle's effects on players and not you trying to get votes piled on Razor. Also, please point out where you are trying to find drawbacks appearing in other known circles. If you theory stands true, there should be multiple instances of circles having two different effects on players. So far I haven't seen you take a single step in that direction either.



The question proceeds your original vote. So when you voted Razor you noted that he received a vote after voting somebody. You labeled it a drawback and automatically jumped to the conclusion that he had to be divine because of it. You then made no further attempts at testing this theory through the course of the day. Then you ask your question, seemingly "forgetting" the post you made when you originally voted for him. I pointed this out yesterday in the post you responded to today, in which you say you knew he had a drawback. Now you are asserting when you asked the question you didn't know if it was a drawback despite just telling me you knew he had one. So which is it, because right now all I'm seeing is contradictions?



Seeing as how I've displayed how you've taken no other opportunities to test your theory and then theorized that you moved with the intention of railroading people and not testing a theory, I don't really see that as both ways. If you know the circle won't effect you, moving there to "prove" your theory right isn't testing a theory, now is it?



Funny you should say that. I'd say you're tunneling pretty hard. Razor hasn't left your sights once despite you having absolutely no solid information to pursue him. Meanwhile you ignore other people's comments on the matter as well as opportunities to test out your own hypothesis. You've been pursuing Razor longer and harder than I've been pursuing you. Given all of that, how do you justify your actions while trying to condemn mine?

So I've been mostly catching up with things but is Aaarrrgh out of the game now? I mean he didn't die so I guess he fulfilled whatever mission he had? Seems odd that it was even possible to achieve on day one. Odd.

@ SeTiny
For the purposes of your chart I am still on the ninth. I too forgot we had the ability to move.

Other than that not much else to say. Let keep on getting jittery and paranoid!

@Numbers - I'm also looking at you. You've provided the least information. When I did want to try and get some info before the end of Canto 1, you refused. I'm not going to let this get bogged down in another 2 player argument that derails other conversations. Yes, I believe that Razor is divine. But, with how you're acting, I'm suspecting you more. Even if you're infernal, I don't think you're helping with figuring our information. So, I'll turn out of my tunnel.

Unvote:
Vote: 15377

I think lynching numbers and/or razor is in my best interest. Not knowing what other people's interests are, I don't know who should agree with me.