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Round 11 format options
No Lands: All land cards are banned for this round. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
3 Fold: Players submit 3-card decks. Each player starts the game with three copies of each of those cards in his or her hand. 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
Merry-Go-Round: If a card would be put into a graveyard, it's put into the opponent's library instead. 42%  42%  [ 5 ]
Peasant: Decks must be (un)commons only. Maximum 1 uncommon allowed. 25%  25%  [ 3 ]
Medallion 3CM: All spells cost 1 colorless mana less to play. 25%  25%  [ 3 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:16 am 
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Every Hope Shall Vanish is less broken, but I'd consider it questionable.

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Depends on which Midnight you are referring to... Where I am, it will be midnight in about 90 minutes. But I will probably go to bed before then, and close the round in the morning. My morning. Which probably will be around midnight for you. Give or take. I'll be in the States next week, so it will be easier to keep this straight by then.

Also, since the poll ended in a draw, I'll just pick my personal favorite for the next round (it's good to be the king): Round 2 will be Archenemy! Start plotting your schemes! Also, since I'm terrible at metagame analysis, I will take suggestions for if any Schemes should be banned.


The question is, what regular cards are going to be banned? That will change what schemes are even viable.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:30 am 
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you forgot the two other cards. Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, Mountain, Mass Hysteria on p2 means you can annihilate P1's Emrakul whether he gave it haste (leaving you at 5 but your hand fine) or not.

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Round 1 spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... sp=sharing






Round 2: Archenemy
Round ends on Tuesday, 24 Dec. 2013.
Archenemy: Along with their 3-card deck, each player submits a Scheme. Once per game, at the beginning of one of your pre-combat main phases, you may set the scheme in motion.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:12 am 
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For a second I feared that wasteland instead of strip mine somehow made me lose some points when I saw s_e deck.
edit:how can deck 3 win against an empthy hand?

1vs10is a draw,if 10attacks for 1 he takes 2 damage.
1vs11 1can probably race on the play.maybe it can against double inkmoth too?


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Deck 3 can't win at all. Against any deck that does not beat it, the deck will just keep all cards in hand. Foil can't counter anything, so the spirit will never hit the grave.
And it loses to Annex, or all-land decks.

1-10 is 2-2 indeed.

The Clergy can never be killed and chump block chancellor tokens all day every day. It can never attack because the counterattack is bigger.

1-11:
1 on play
3 tokens, attack (17)
Cathedral
attack (14)
Nexus
attack (11)
attack (2 poison)
attack (8)
attack (4 poison)
attack (5)
attack (6 poison)
attack (2)
attack (8 poison)
attack (dead)

So 3-3, because 1 on draw will come a turn short.

1-9: Only 1 Nexus can be made at any time. But there is a chump block at play too. Let's see.
3 tokens, attack (17)
Cathedral
attack (14)
Nexus
attack, 1 chump block (12)
Nexus
attack (10)
attack (2 poison)
attack (8)
attack (4 poison)
attack (6)
attack (6 poison)
attack (4)
attack (8 poison)
attack (2)
attack (10 poison)

So 1 loses
BUT when 9 is at 14, 1 can decide to wait until a Nexus attacks (which it will only do when all lands are played and active). What then?

2 poison
11 life
4 poison
8 life
6 poison
5 life
8 poison
2 life
10 poison.

So 9 wins 6-0

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@Jac: I had missed that Cathedral of War enters tapped. So your math is correct.

And yes, Squinty's deck is indeed illegal. I'm sorry I missed that before posting the spreadsheet.

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Doesn't matter, that's why we use google docs. I make mistakes too (stupid Strip Mine paying Annex' cost...)

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Yeah, I was mostly apologizing to Squinty. I should have figured it out and given him a chance to submit a legal deck.

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The chancellors might survive the ban.

Can someone check 2/5vs8 and 2/5vs9?


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Oh, and for anyone who hadn't realized: If you do not put a deck name by your submission, I will name your deck for you. And there might be bad jokes.

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2-9 seems the big question mark right now.

2 on play:
Wasteland, Chrono
Nexus
Cavern.
Nexus, attack (1 poison). EoT 2/2 Chrono
nothing
Cathedral (killed by Wasteland), attack (2 poison). EoT 3/3 Chrono.
Now Chrono is big enough to kill in 7 turns, while Nexus needs 8. 2 wins.

9 on play:
Nexus
Wasteland, Chrono
Nexus, attack (1 poison)
Cavern.
Cathedral (killed by Wasteland), attack (2 poison). EoT 2/2 Chrono
Nothing.
Attack (3 poison). EoT 3/3 Chrono.
Nothing
Attack (4 poison). EoT 4/4 Chrono.
Now Chrono is once again big enough to kill before Nexus.

2 wins 6-0

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Are the scores doubled on purpose? I guess it doesn't really matter, but it bothers me a tiny bit.

-=edit=- On a side note, it's the first time I do this, so I may very well have made some mistakes. Feel free to review.


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Sort of expected, but I didn't do terribly well.
Hoping for some interesting results in the more chaotic environment that comes now.

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Oh, I didn't realize what the "empty deck" part meant. Oh well.

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I dont lose to strip mine decks. I do lose to chrono though, I think.

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LilyStorm wrote:
I dont lose to strip mine decks. I do lose to chrono though, I think.

The strip mine users are the Chronos (which I calculated above), Lab Maniac (which wins T2) and my deck, which you draw, because you get me to 8 poison counters before I can cast Chancellor.
At which point I cannot attack because you only need 2 more counters and you can't attack because it kills the Nexus.

Oh, and Mown. But you do win against him and it's there in the scoresheet as well.

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And this is why Laboratory Maniac is the most broken card in this format.

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What they gave chancellor flying? This is new to me.

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I think I filled in the blanks. Make sure to check results and ask here if you think I made a mistake (may be possible).
Chancellor comes in 4th behind the Lab Maniac and the 2 Chronomaton decks, if this holds.


Now to find out what all those schemes do...

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