PK wasn't the only one to lie to Zinger about being mafia. I did that too, and likely did it before PK if you use Zinger's posts as any indication.

For the sake of clarify, JD and I are not masons. We're closer to neighbors if anything (I believe there is a strict difference between masons vs neighbors).

Due to HW flipping town, I'm sure he was being sincere in what he said wrt to ExLight in that he wasn't sure of ExLight's alignment. Unlike Fred, I don't think ExLight is yellow town as HW didn't have any stated connection to yellow town (unless that was his hidden alignment or w/e it was that he talked about wrt to his role). More likely, I'd wager on HW's role revival vagueness being a red herring to help if he had chosen to be something other than town (based on what he said anyway).

I don't honestly see Rubik being mafia. At least not compared to Minish. And even then it doesn't make sense to me that Rubik would progress himself how he did early in the game only to, looking back at the SMS vote, act scummy in approaching voting SMS (there was nothing scummy about it and that's really the only thing I can see being held against him, unless you are looking at something else).

Nothing in any of my dates had set any alarms, and in fact all of my dates have seemed town in those conversations. In fact, it was Minish who suggested I use the ability I got from dating her on KoD with the specific how that it would empower any investigative ability he might have (which it apparently didn't, unfortunately). Based on the information we had at that point, it would seem very odd for scum to want to secretly empower the only thing close to a cop that had claimed.

I'm kinda lazy to check it, but maybe it's hypermaj? (66%+)

don't clear me and Minish up


I'm a little lost on what's going on. I still have to fetch what was claimed and what happened while I was gone, but for now I'm slightly scumreading Rubik and Tevish; Null reading Freddeh, Minish, funnier, and PK; and Town reading the rest.

About Minish in particular I got weirded out by her play of voting Naga, but unless she it is some really crazy plan I don't see why she'd lie to Aaargh, so she's prolly telling the truth about how her role works. And, well, her role seems something that could go both ways, so I don't feel like I have enough to analyze her. Her defending me D1 and putting the untying vote on SMS give her a slightly green lean tbf.

You'd be surprised of what people do to distance themselves, giving a small boost to someone who might be a cop doesn't mean much, we don't know if scum can block or redirect it anyway. If anything it's a pretty smart move even for scum since JD can see who targets KoD, which makes this generosity? act non-anonymous and puts townpants on someone..

Add to that I made it pretty clear that KoD isn't a straight alignment cop during the SmS debacle when he tried to hide behind his Miller claim. So knowing KoD has some method of untraditional information gathering, mafia are probably less worried about boosting it, more worried about getting a handle on what it actually is so they can properly fake claim.

Hi everyone, I can still post after death and...

Just joking, the mod allowed me to make a dead post.

Good luck to you all and have fun!

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no this post isn’t doing anything
stop being paranoid

Why do you think the hidden votes aren’t purely Zinger’s action, JD?

Should we ask Tevish to skip the 12h now so it doesn’t mess things up later?
I really don’t want it hapening during a n important discussion.

And Rubik, for someone who accused me of rolefishing it’s kinda funny to see you demanding a massclaim. What are your reads so far, if any?

I will oblige.

Nibble on Time

I... I kinda expected a consensus first but that works I guess

There's a difference between trying to fish out roles d1 and wanting to massclaim 4+ days into the game. If we have any informational roles, I'd hope they'd have gotten usable information by now.

I can form better opinions about players after a mass claim, probably. I thought Amber was pretty scummy until they claimed and after that I was honestly pretty sure they were town. I was pretty shocked to see them nk'd.

You still on about this?

Nobody cares about your little quest to stop me. Town has bigger problems and you ain't helping with them.

As I said before day 1 had the same +2 majority bump so for us to believe it's just Zinger we'd have to believe his vote is doubly heavy or believe that he had recruited a player before the game was even live. Pretty sure the Eldritch vote has never shown to be weighted in the counts so the alternative is much more unlikely than simply there being a hidden player vote floating, especially give all the vote shenanigan claims we've seen so far.

you notice the deadline is 12 hours shorter

the lynch deadline is now Sunday, October 27th, at 11:59 PM
the CSC deadline is now Saturday, October 26th, at 11:59 PM

The reason why I was resurrected is because tget care. And I’ve been trying to scumgunt more than half of the alive players.

If you really don’t care about winning a game you’re not playing please don’t rude or salty about it, thanks.

*they care *scumhunt
I hate this phone’s touchscreen

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression a person having their ability more or less empowered came from dating you (ie. you gain an ability that is seemingly themed after the role of the person you dated). I would imagine that the ability you gained from Minish would be similar to her role just like how your previous and current abilities were similar to Rubik and Tevish's roles in some capacity (Rubik in being able to see the pictures of the people you targeted, and Tevish in the sense that you literally caused D3 to happen again).

Given the above, I don't think it odd at all for Minish, in conversation with you about your ability, to suggest someone she has stated positive feelings about recently. If she had suggested that you use it on her, perhaps you'd get suspicious of that. Or if she had suggested someone that differed in how she was reading them maybe.


@ExLight:

You've had a few days to read. I would have imagined you'd have put more effort into developing reads on people. Like, I understand you died early, but it doesn't take much to at least skim and get the gist of what people are conversing about.

Why is it you're scum reading Rubik and Tevish? More so Tevish given his posts from about a day or so ago (when he was talking about not letting himself get lynched just because town are not putting in effort to scum hunt). You didn't get town vibes from that?

Unvote, Vote: ExLight

On second thought ExLight would make a better lynch than Minish. At the very least HW confirmed that Ex's alignment had to of changed, and I don't see, given his town alignment, why HW would be motivated to lie about how his ability went down. Plus, given Ex's posts and how he has yet to have actually developed any in depth reads despite having been brought back by HW, I'm sure we're seeing a distinct difference in how he's approaching the game (not as loud and not as prone to getting into analyzing people).

PK said she probably won't be able to post actively for a while and that i should replace her.

I don't have a replacement lined up but if anyone happens to be reading this thread and is interested in replacing in then feel free to give me a ring.

Also I'd like to see how the living players feel about either

A: Replacing in a dead player

or

B: modkilling PK

in the likely event that a replacement can't otherwise be found.

Replacing her with a dead player would be really awkward because the early deaths seem really crucial to the game and they could have info about roles and alignments they shouldn't have in their new role (I'm alive; CL was part of a third faction and apparently had investigative info; SMS was scum, etc); and the latest deaths are more likely to have interacted more with other players during the night. Not to mention that the role's info doesn't flip upon dying, so that could also conceal crucial info.

I kinda hate modkills but it seems like the most sensible thing to do. Just make sure to announce beforehand or to include it as some gimmick in the game so the players don't get caught offguard. You played Anime Mafia with me and you know how those two abrupt modkills messed the game for Town, so we'd like to avoid that.

Look, I've been busy with college lately, the midterm exams just ended and I had three papers to delivery today. Anyone that talks to me in any other social media and forums can confirm that I haven't joined any games recently nor posted as much as I'm used to in the last two weeks or so.

I also haven't been able to play this as much as I wanted, and to be fair I don't even have the same will after the D1 fiasco. Now that HW told everyone I'm a Survivor I just can't wait to get for another wagon to form around me, hooray.

Today is one of my best friends' birthday and I'll prolly be out hanging with him all day and won't be able to defend myself. Even if I could, it would be nice to not have to make text giant messages flailing around trying to avoid a mislynch again. So I'm going to just post all my reads here now so it can be used for discussion. Anyway, firstly I quickly skimmed the game again and here's a short version of everything that happened so far, as well as some notes of mine:

D2:


D3:


D4:


These kinda show which topics are still open for discussion too.

I feel like this kinda changes a little how I'm seeing a few players:

@Tevish, the main reason I'm scum reading you is because of two main factors: your role has a really impactful negative utility for town (allowing you to shorten discussions, push the leading lynch, etc); and how you somewhat helped to promote my lynch D1 over other players you have meta knowledge despite it being, admittedly, a gut feeling.

@KoD, JD. You guys are pretty confirmed for town, and one of you even got an investigative role outed. Why hasn't the Mafia killed any of you? And why haven't you got any investigative results ever since SMS' death?

@Rubik, what happened? Why aren't you posting as much? The main reason I'm scumreading you is because you're kinda potatoing around like in Anime mafia and in the Crossover.

@Freddeh, after rereading your posts I'm townreading you a little more. I'd like to hear a little more about your reads in different days and your explanation on why some of the reads changed, tho.

@Funnier, Minish, and PK are still really null to me. Funnier sounds like he just gave up, and Minish particularly disappeared, what happened?

I'll post some theories after I get home from the birthday party.