Hey friends! Y'all ready for Day 2? Some of you are. Others are dead.

Zinger2099 and Darkstar have both been MURDERED!

Darkstar was the Orange Lil' Monster, and they dropped the Purple Chaos Emerald.

Zinger was nobody. An unknown Lil' Monster who hadn't settled on their final form yet. It's a good thing someone decided to kill him, because he was trying to copy my role last Night and that would have been real bad. Like, for reals, things might have gotten super weird if his ability had been allowed to succeed. So whoever killed him, good job!

In other news, Ragnarokio died too soon. She's been reincarnated, and with a fresh new color, too! Welcome back, Rag!

Alright, let's get with the killing. 8 players means we've got a majority of 5. You can do it! I believe in you. GO!

Deadline on Friday at 4:30 pm pacific time.

Two deaths... presumably, one of them is CL's

So, not everyone matches their Chaos Emerald, at least according to flips?

According to this, Zinger was Nader voting against Monster yesterday and still tried to become the new mod role. Darkstar was on the Rag wagon and was rubbed out. With private voting, that doesn't say a whole lot since we don't have an easy way to track, ahead of time, who went for what. Slight conspiracy theory that Monster is self-back-patting and had at least one kill but that's not really important; if Monster killed Zinger we know exactly why. CL, which kill are you taking credit for and why did you decide that player had to die?

The Rag screenshot claim plus contradicting flip yesterday is... really strange. Rag could have made that screenshot by splicing self-generated material with the real header in image editing software but that seems like a lot of effort for an 11th-hour cult claim, seeing as Rag wasn't, you know, a conventional jester. So are flips being messed with, did OG Yellow do something weird at the last minute to swap/convert, or was Rag deceived as to role? Rag dropped the wrong Chaos Emerald too, which makes it feel less certain that there was a trickery by not Rag, rather than Rag making that screenie for... whatever reason.

Suffice to say, I'm deeply concerned that he didn't flip Cyan. Cyan intimidates me in general.

In any case, there's frankly a strong incentive to off Rag again, in part so we know what color is playing Thriller Night... but I'd like to hear from Rag regarding that screenie, flip, and resurrection before committing to that. I don't think I'm alone in not trusting spontaneous n1 unclaimed revivals; that's almost always going to be a cult variant. I'm slightly concerned RE: KoD, but Rag is a bigger conundrum. Naga might also be a good lynch 'cause, you know, inactive.

I'll have to reread to see if I can get any vibes on who might be a resurrection source...

I killed Darkstar. He seemed sus. I think I made a good choice.

How did rag drop the wrong emerald tho

She didn't in terms of color and emerald flip. There's only a contradiction between claim and flip. Personally I'm of the mind that Tevish is responsible since he's trying to poo poo trickery by not Rag. Also as new cult leader he'd clearly want to waste another day lynching not him. So yeah.

Rag's screenshot claimed he had the Cyan emerald. He dropped yellow, which is what I meant by "wrong". That makes it less likely his flip was tampered with rather than that he was lying (I'd be almost certain of tampering if he'd dropped Cyan while flipping yellow).

Also of note is that we had 9 votes reporting at the end of the day. Cyan was not voting. I do suspect that while Rag does not appear to have been Cyan, Cyan probably is the cult leader.

It makes it less likely somebody simply stole the emerald in the eleventh hour. It doesn't make it less likely that all Tom foolery is to be ruled out. But maybe Rag will want to weigh in on her own flip?

@Tevish
Yeah rag looks pretty sketch after all that.
Naga was the only inactive, so I mean occams razor suggests hes cyan . But if rag was covering for cyan in hopes of getting culted or what devious idea she had idk

I told the truth about my role, although given how things ended up i'm obviously uncertain of myself. I don't know who resurrected me but my role is identical to how it was before, minus the emerald. Presumably whoever ends up with the emerald can continue spreading the cult, presumably starting with themselves (otherwise they'd have no reason to). My role itself is more or less useless without the emerald component though.

I'm submitting a test vote on myself to see if it counts this time, and I'm particularly curious to see if the vote comes up in a different colour (implying misinformation about my own role is an aspect of it). Last time i voted CL and my vote didn't appear, although a vote by yellow did, so i'm wondering if its possible i was actually yellow the whole time and was just lied to about my role.

There's an easy answer to that, as yellow was voting Rag in the first vote count. If that wasn't you then you know your own answer. Of course naturally we have no affirmation of that.

Lying to players about their roles is not really my style. There must be some other explanation for your confusion, Rag. Like maybe you're the one who's lying. Or maybe, as you say, someone messed with the integrity of Day 1's votecounts. Maybe you're just color-blind. Who knows? I suppose anything's possible.



M0nster's Super Cute Votecount Number 9

Ragnarokio (1): Cyan Lil' Monster

Not voting: 7 out of 8 players.

Majority is 5 votes.

Gusy guys gusy gusy

all that mattesr is I wasn't killed exaclty like i thought I woudlnt' be


that and I'm so many drinks in it's like good


I've ggot two muffins now. It's over so whoever is the mafia, it's time to give up.

Also, Rag was totally lynched D1. good job

i knew it was aobut to happen eventually


I haven't analyzed anything yet becuase it istough, but no worries I am on my game.

Right now, CL, good job. I finally understand you and left field. It us an underated posit

I have to ascend now with this one muffin. I shall consume it and an energy drink of sparkling water.

Ta ta for now

Alright, let's try to piece this together. Yesterday, Rag showed as Yellow. Rag's vote, flip, and matching chaos emerald were all yellow.

Now rag is back claiming to still be Cyan (as claimed before). and the vote count supports it. With Monster breadcrumbing flip-manipulation (as was already suspect) I'm inclined to believe that's what happened for the moment. The question is, what do we do about it.

If we take things at face value, Rag is back up as a cultist, while there may or may not be a new cult leader who may or may not be able to attempt culting tonight, depending on whether or not the dropped emerald was picked up. Of course, a non-cyan in possession of the Cyan emerald wouldn't necessarily want to cyanize and go for the cyan wincon.

The way I see it, Rag is a known hazard. Rag absolutely needs to die again but since we have a vig-type that's not necessarily the best use for today's lynch. Of course, if Rag regained the Chaos Emerald upon revival, that's a problem that MUST be nipped in the bud ASAP.

Monster, is there any chance you could let us know what's going down with Naga, if there's a prod or state of inactivity still 'in the air'?


Also, looking back, Aaarrrgh Sus:


That kind of presciently predicted the operating function of the Cyan Chaos Emerald as later revealed by Rag, encouraged ignoring it after Rag's death, and we 'know' somebody was messing with Rag so it's conceivable that Aaarrrgh had already seen Rag's details.

Aaarrrgh sus? Oh! I have some helpful information I can share about that! Like, the player kind, not the mod kind.

I can confirm that I was targeted by an ability used by Aaarrrgh last Night. We got to have a brief but pleasant chat, and I was not culted.

Course, my role might have an ability that prevents me from getting culted... But still! I'm sure he's fine. Maybe.

Gee, on second thought, maybe this information wasn't helpful after all.

I did indeed target monster with an ability, just to see what would happen (and the answer was that nothing happened). I cannot confirm what the ability was, but it was not the Cyan Emerald ability. I consider this statement to be vague enough to be covered by my NLP.

One possibility I can see is that the original holder of the yellow emerald could switch emeralds (and also monster colors) with another player, and did so at the last moment. However, that doesn't explain why Rag's color changed despite the posted PM stating it couldn't.

@Rag: did you at any point get any info about Yellow?

Another thing: at EoD, all but Cyan were voting. That implies that unless someone could vote as two different colors, Naga either voted without ever posting in thread, or Naga ended D1 as Cyan. Either way, it doesn't look good.

Vote: Naga

Naaaaa, Naga is too easy of a target.

I'd say we should lynch you, Arrgh. You're obv up to the no good good type of stuff.

1. I did not see Rag's details before she posted them.
2. While I will not comment on color or effect, I am willing to admit that I am holding an Emerald which grants the wielder a situationally powerful ability. It was not a particularly difficult conjecture that the same might be true of Rag.

I hadn't noticed that. Based on my vote counting correctly today I'd guess the most probable explanation was that i was just voteblocked yesterday and that whatever modified my flip was a seperate (though possibly related) effect.



My goal is still to kill threats to cyan monsters but i still have no idea who those are. With that being the case the optimal play for me is to just have anyone other than me die, unless they claim to definitively not be a threat to cyan monsters and for me to believe them. In any case, I feel I'm not really more of a threat to the average player than the average player is (given, i don't know what all of your wincons are its a given that most people must want someone to die given there's only so much design space outside of that in the game of mafia).

Unless you know you're a threat to cyan monsters there's probably not much reason to kill me.



i didn't

You know, I could be convinced to see Rag lynched a second day in a row.

It would certainly be beneficial to not have Rag running around with little Rags running around.