Confirmed. Also, I'll be using my no lie policy this game.

Also also, I'm self-aligned y'all.

That's all I am willing to say for now.


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First, this;
Rubik wrote:
I'd like you to post the conditions of your "no lie policy" here so that people who haven't played with it before aren't at a disadvantage.

I don't like lying. I prefer to play Mafia whilst lying as little as possible both because I don't enjoy lying and also because I find it adds an extra level of complexity to the game that I enjoy having to work around. This is my motivation for having a No Lie Policy (motivation is important for those trying to figure out why I would bother with this and how I might choose to word things within the confines of my NLP).

In the strictest sense, it means I will not knowingly lie about anything in the game, except where my alignment is concern.

That second clause is in there because naturally in order to play as Mafia I need to be able to claim that I am Town, so I've allowed that in the terms of my NLP. Technically, this means I could also claim self-aligned (as I have in this game) even if I were in fact not self-aligned, though positive reasons for lying and claiming self-aligned are few and far between. More likely, in every situation where I would want to lie about my alignment (ie. If I were Mafia), I would sooner claim Town than Self, so you can put some amount of faith in that claim. Still, technically, my alignment claim is not guaranteed per my NLP.

As for everything other than alignment (role info, knowledge of the game, etc), I won't knowingly say anything that isn't true. Now, I can omit pieces of information (ie. if I was a 1/shot COP, I could say I have an investigative role and conveniently leave out the bit where I can only use that ability once), but I won't knowingly say anything that is strictly untrue. The "knowingly" clause is important because if I were an insane cop and my results were reversed, I wouldn't know that I would be saying anything untrue in what I say.

TL;DR, My NLP means, at the very least, that you can believe that I believe everything I am saying is true (possibly excepting where my alignment is concerned).

Now, second, to respond to the allegations that I am potentially a threat to the town;

I am.

Depending on circumstances. If the game plays out one way, I am a threat to the town. If the game plays out another way, I am not a threat to the town.

I have no problem telling all of you this because under normal circumstances (majority vote, vig, whatever) I can't die. Something specific has to happen to result in my death.

Oh, but a fair warning: if anyone tries to investigate me to confirm what I am saying, you will unknowingly bring me closer to realising the conditions in which I become a threat to the town.


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Haven't read everything. Have been asked a lot of questions which I may answer tomorrow but frankly I'm about to go to bed and skimming from my phone. I will answer two questions I saw from Numbers since he specifically pointed out he was irritated that I didn't answer his original question (which I missed entirely?).

Can I be lynched toDay under any circumstances? Yes. There is a way for me to be lynched.
Can I be killed tonight under any circumstances? No. I am unkillable by anything other than a Lynch, albeit a standard majority lynch is not enough to kill me. I am not prepared at this time to reveal the exact nature under which I can be lynched, but I do know what it is. Feel free to test with however many votes you like if you feel so inclined.

I'll come back and answer some other questions tomorrow. Bed time.

Oh, it's not just investigations, but rather, any targeted ability used on me which will weaken the seal to unleashing doom on all of you. Not recommended if you want to keep me in a non threat to the town state.


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Fruit wrote:
Zinger, would you mind revealing your victory condition for when you're not a threat to town? Also, it seems like the mafia could easily target you to "unleash this seal" if they have any targeted abilities and that could be dangerous.

Unleashing my seal is equally bad for Mafia and Town.

Unleashing my seal is a game ending condition that results in losses all around. Very bad. Don't make this happen.

I'm not prepared to share my wincon. At least, not yet.

Now I'm going to bed for real.


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I will not be lynched by a majority+1 Neo, no worries. If everyone is intent on testing the limits of my immortality, then worrying about the day ending early should be the least of your worries (hint: it won't). If I were town I'd find your statement to be scummy because you are insinuating that those who are voting me are interested in the day ending early...

But I'm not town so what do I care if your behaviour is scummy or not...



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@Mod: over the next 10 days my activity will be nearly non-existent. Holiday plans > Mafia game. I will make an effort to check in, skim the thread, and maybe make a minimalistic post occasionally during this time, but no promises.


@Niklor, as far as I know I can vote just fine, although, it doesn't explicitly stated that I can... Shall we test?

Vote: Niklor, for no other reason than to answer your question.

@Pdr, I'm going to refrain from answering that question on the basis that my answer would either a) make the mafia my enemy, b) make the town my enemy, or c) make both teams my enemy. Let's not upset the delicate balance we've got going on right now, shall we?


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Sorry, my response to Pdr in my previous post is actually a response to Mown.

I'm tired.


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@Numbers: Eh. Fair enough. I've no real need for smoke and mirrors anyway. My wincon is not compatible with the town or the mafia wincon. If I win you all lose. I'm a three billion year old all powerful demon disguised as a random dude. My wincon is to break the seal on my power so I can unleash death and destruction on everyone. Being targeted weakens the seal - so hey if you wanna target me go ahead - but ultimately weakening the seal is not required for me to break it (it just makes it easier for me). Can you figure out how to stop me before I turn the tables on you and win? Or are you guys doomed to suffer my hellish wrath? Mwahahahahahaaa!

Man, I feel like Carnage from Maximum Carnage: A Spider-Man Mafia. This is fun. :-)


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I'll be impressed if you guys can figure out how to lynch me. I'll be honest, I'm not sure how much the presence of a triple voter skews the numbers in your favour. But I doubt it will make much of a difference.

Maybe you have to amass votes on me in reverse alphabetical order? Or maybe a specific individual needs to be the third person to have voted me for all others to count? Or maybe I can only be lynched if I have a majority of votes against me on a Friday? Or maybe it's more simple than that and you just need like, 10 votes to kill me or some ****? What could it be?


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Elijin wrote:
Hey no lie policy, is it any of those things?

Wouldn't you like to know.


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Well played, numbers. Well played.

I wish I had a DayKill right about now.

But eh, I still very much doubt you'll achieve the condition required to see me lynch.

Then again, I've been wrong before... *looks at KoD*

Hey, Mafia team, I know I'm not really your friend and all, what with my wincon being directly against yours, but keep in mind this: the longer I live the more I distract the town from hunting you down. Also, if you target me tonight with your night kill fun things might happen. Fun for home you ask? Why don't you try it and find out! :-)


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Voting for me is boring. Let's lynch someone more fun. Like Rubik.

Tell you what guys, I'll make a deal with you: lynch Rubik today and I'll tell you exactly how I can be lynched tomorrow. I promise. Now see? I can be fair and useful too.

So what do ya say? You ever make a deal with the devil in the pale moonlight?