I WAS NINJA'D BY RESULTS.
Of course, if this passes, then there's no guarantee that there were no spies on it, however, the people on this would be less likely (IMO) to be spies than the general majority.
Thank you for confirming my general premise.
My #1 goal here is just one thing: a team free of spies. This can
never be guaranteed, but it can be estimated. You built possible scumteams, considering both buddying and deliberate distancing, and take advantage of your ability to read people. You also, through voting records and more potently through the accumulation of successful or failed missions.
A wise use of actual evidence is that people who have gone on a successful mission are probably less likely to be scum.
What I also know is that we can't afford to have every mission be as contentious as mission 1. These defaults are dangerous, in my mind, and I would rather have a frank discussion right now than blindly propose something that the group as a whole has uttered no say in and hope it passes muster.
In doing so I also aim to build evidence, by establishing clear intents to move one way or another on a hypothetical team, we may determine scum as those who, when faced with something they must admit to be of sound logic, find themselves instead attempting to vote it down.
We bear punchers need to understand who our friends are, since it takes 4 upvotes to launch a mission and there are only 4 true Bear Punchers. We also need to maintain activity for the same reason.
I find myself unconcerned by rubik's slippery memory. We have a physical record of who created what teams, so I don;t think it takes much to see that his core point was incorrect. I'm more concerned with someone willing, with defaults a 'thing', to send us on to mission #5 with few if any better possibilities. I'm concerned that this might be someone who wants to get a swing at leadership before a town win can manifest itself.
Look at it this way: If Zinger, Squinty, and Myself really are all town (and I am suspecting this is true), we have a golden opportunity where the victory squad will contain the leader thrice in a row. Scum's only hope in this scenario is to attempt to discredit without evidence one of the three of us and move the leadership onward to their own.
We'll get some information when this mission has run. We can;t get any more before the next one. In the (i feel) probable result of a pass, I find our best short and long term option is to launch the team I previously proposed. At that point, the mission can pass at which time
the game is probably ours, or it can fail and we get info on who our friends really aren't, and under the circumstances I'll probably owe Rubik an apology and Zinger (or maybe squinty) a shake of my fist.
As it stands, before results here are my current Thoughts
Rag: Proposed the super-fishy first team, likely hoping town would blindly launch any team 1.
Neo and Mown: On the super-fishy first team. One of them's scum.
Zinger: He's pretty loud, yes? This is, in my mafia experience, a good thing. Scum can try to sway results behind the scenes, town only has talk to its advantage, which Zinger is doing a lot of despite accusations of shutting down debate (a debate he was, in fact, responding to). He could go either way but I'm leaning town.
Squinty: He's a bit quiet, no? Could be uninformed and playing that way, or could be trying to remain inoffensive enough to lurk his way onto teams and tank them. We shall see. I'm leaning town, though, in the current climate.
Rubik: By process of elimination, probably scum. He talks a lot though, which makes me worry, even if his talk is more interested in fingering individuals than in discerning, by logic and not blind policy, a successful bear punching team. In the end, between Rubik and Zinger, it comes down to my attempt to cold read. Suggesting claims feels more like assassin trolling for info than anything else.
Current Scum Guess: Rag, Mown, Rubik.
If any of you three are town: sorry. Feel free to prove it with your votes, but I'm not sending you on missions!
SUPER MAXIMUM NINJA BY RESULTS EXTRAVAGANZA.
My team of bear punchers is Zinger
Tevish (myself)
Squinty
Because cold logic dictates, with my knowledge of my own alignment and our shared knowledge of Zinger and Squinty's past success, this to be the winning team.
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Because you obviously didn't think it could so easily be poked apart. If you did, you would not have made such an argument, regardless of your alignment.