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Paranoia ParadiseParanoia ParadiseGame ArchiveMAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia [TOWN/GOBLIN VICTORY] 2515 posts / 0 new QUICK REPLY LAST POST FOLLOW Pages « FIRST‹ PREVIOUS…67891011121314…NEXT ›LAST » #362 Oct 12, 2013 20:21:22 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I cannot get my head into this game.
I literally cannot analyze claims and mechanics and get a read on people who do. I've been trained on analyzing behavior.
I cannot analyze stupid role speculation and useless posts which don't do anything at all.
I was going to replace out of this game if I had the choice but given that I wanted to join this game as a teaching opportunity to my hydra buddy it appears as though I will have to "tough it out" and keep pushing along the game.
So, let's start with trying to get a read on my null reads:
Feroz-s_Familiar_Pheldy: Posts a post to confirm and votes IsoSTARDUST. Replaces out. Does absolutely nothing.
Ragnarokio: Says something about hyperboosting your abilities. THAT'S IT.
Arioch22: Posts about lynch thresholds, confirms some role playing ****, says a lot of things about Ahylis but doesn't actually say anything in that pile of words (uselessPost™) then follows up with more useless things. AM I SUPPOSED TO VOTE THESE PEOPLE OR LEAVE THEM BY THE WAYSIDE?
JayDreven: Starts questioning people then tries out Ahylis's alignment. Actually interacts with people. Whoa! If he actually gives thoughts on players before the Day ends then I'll sleep better at night. But revising this to leaning town, given that he's one of the few players who are actually doing anything.
PeregrineV: Is absent for most of the game then posts a read list, which.. is nothing without reasoning to back it up. THAT'S IT. Pdr_Br: So passive with his first post. "Hey guys, I'm here, whoa interesting abilities". Confirms bad role play. Unusually concerned with Spider-Man. Moved to leaning scum because passiveness.
tmich: Votes edeon and says "discuss" and NEVER PUSHES THE DISCUSSION ON HIS VOTE, WHICH WOULD HAVE LED TO MUCH MORE USEFUL DISCUSSION. Is actually voting players for ~quasilegit reasons? Asks lots of questions. Has a nice rants post, kind of. Has rational conclusions anyone can agree with. Whoa is actually trying to solve the game like JayDreven. Currently tmich and I are so on the same page right now. (he's probably earnest town)
The_Unwritten: Two posts with nothing in them. REALLY?!
Zokorad: Does something to Ahylis. Says Iso is suspicious without voting him. ZERO.
Murica: FoSes without vote. Tunnels Ahylis then puts a vote. The question is, why didn't he use his vote in the first place? More IIoA. Burn him (IsoSTARDUST, will you oblige?)
Johnny_Combo_Player: WOW, THIS GUY HAS NOT EVEN POSTED EVEN ONCE YET.
EtR: Bad vote on Ahylis. Like that's it. wow.
burning_earth: Votes Iso "just in case" presumably RVS. Self conscious with regards to IsoSTARDUST. Never removes his RVS vote, which I consider a scumtell. "I'm a townie (or am I)" so bad. Just hopped onto the bottom of my scum list for committing real scum slips.
Seppel_: Hey look another ragnarokio. LIKE LOL ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
So currently we have two unlynchable and unkillable derps that are bad for game design because they pretty much make you lurk for the entire game.
We have four town in the form of tmich, LordMark, JayDreven, and Jedcaj that will lead us to victory.
We have NINE PLAYERS who are currently not playing the game.
And we have six scum in the form of Clinic, Pdr, edeon, Murica, resyx, and burning_earth, which may be subject to further scrutiny.
Really I want to be a Townie Dreaming God and choose the Hickory Dickory Dock option. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #363 Oct 12, 2013 20:22:04 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message To help clarify to the mod, and to put my vote in a seperate post -
Unvote, vote burning_earth.
Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #364 Oct 12, 2013 20:49:27 tmich Joined May 2012 1037 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Still haven't read the last two posts, they appeared after I wrote this and I just want to sleep since(can't find the right words) 3 a.m. here,.
@lordmark:the first time I did read his posts on my phone they sounded really scummy, I already kind of forgot why when I made that post on a computer, I remember that a post in particular sounded very scummy.
If this is his usual playstile I'm not interested in his lynch, I need to see more from him andthere are too many scummier players.
I would favor a wagon on B_E at this point, because he still hasn't done anything useful after at least 10 posts, but we are not going to get a lynch or reads if the mafia and neutrals can just park his vote on ahl or iso, so I would like to get this "lynch" done as soon as possible.
JD also did that, maybe arioch and freedeh too? Could someone check this?
@unwritten, what players are attention ******(selfcensoring just in case) exactly?
I just turned '22, happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, just FYI.
I don't even know what to say about seppel, I was kind of looking forward to playing with some players from sally, but between ISO being carnage and the other players playing that way this is starting to become frustrating.
@edeon: why should we vig ahl and lynch an inactive? What is the difference?
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Block User Direct Message [quote="tmich"] I would favor a wagon on B_E at this point, because he still hasn't done anything useful after at least 10 posts, but we are not going to get a lynch or reads if the mafia and neutrals can just park his vote on ahl or iso, so I would like to get this "lynch" done as soon as possible.
Zinger2099 wrote:
Ahlyis (5): Clinic, Murica, JayDreven, edeon, tmich How does this add up? Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #367 Oct 12, 2013 21:36:04 (Edited) tmich Joined May 2012 1037 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message excelsior.
Well... I lied about going to sleep... I was watching a walkthrought of the Maximum carnage videogame...I never saw my character, I need to watch the videos again, if he appeared it was surely easy to miss . Better answer now than leave you there analizing the game without knowing what I meant.
I would favor a wagon on B_E at this point, because he still hasn't done anything useful after at least 10 posts,
STOP
but we are not going to get a lynch or reads if the mafia and neutrals can just park his vote on ahl or iso, so I would like to get this "lynch" done as soon as possible.
The "lynch" being having enough votes on ahl(or iso, but he said nothing about the day not endind when lynched) to confirm his claim(or maybe lynch him because he lied)making the act of voting him pointless and removing that black hole that is eating a lot of votes.
Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #368 Oct 12, 2013 22:12:02 (Edited) Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I would rather put my vote towards lynching the scum, not lynching a publicly confirmed Neutral.
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Block User Direct Message Ahl isn't a publicly confirmed neutral. Neither is ISO. They are publicly claimed neutral. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #370 Oct 12, 2013 22:25:52 (Reply to #369)
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Block User Direct Message Thank you, Jay. Also, even IF his role pm had said "neutral" I would still say Carnage is anti-everyone. It's IN HIS NATURE! Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #371 Oct 12, 2013 22:31:59 (Edited) (Reply to #361)
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seppel wrote: Someone tried to kill me.
Little did they know that I'm an unkillable unlynchable miller vig (for real). Can anyone actually be killed in this game?
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Block User Direct Message Umm, Shockwave07? Dead dude. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #373 Oct 12, 2013 23:35:07 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message JayDreven wrote: Ahl isn't a publicly confirmed neutral. Neither is ISO. They are publicly claimed neutral.
Given that about half of the players in this game are inactive, we'll never run up Ahylis or IsoSTARDUST.
I would rather use that time to scumhunt. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #374 Oct 12, 2013 23:37:47 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message IsoSTARDUST, if Venom was scum, would you scumhunt to find Venom?
I know you're one of the most experienced players here and I don't want the thread to fill up with spammy role playing **** (or "lol I know who all the scum are but I don't want to help the town win because I'm neutral") Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #375 Oct 12, 2013 23:52:24 (Reply to #374)
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Block User Direct Message How many times does it need to be said? Carnage doesn't give a **** about anyone but himself. He'd rather nuke the entire population(himself excluded, obviously) than help anyone. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #376 Oct 12, 2013 23:55:35 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message LordMark wrote: How many times does it need to be said? Carnage doesn't give a **** about anyone but himself. He'd rather nuke the entire population(himself excluded, obviously) than help anyone.
IsoSTARDUST wrote: I'm pretty sure that + Mark antagonizing me means he's Venom. If you guys lynch him, I'll town-side. I don't have a vote, but I can use my Daykill as a second lynch. IsoSTARDUST wrote: ("That" referring to Mark not dying.) But seriously, if you guys help me find Venom, I'll use my Daykill however.
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote: Given that about half of the players in this game are inactive, we'll never run up Ahylis or IsoSTARDUST.
I would rather use that time to scumhunt.
Those aren't mutually exclusive things. You can scumhunt while maintaining a vote on either of those. At some point we will have to seek other options, that's why we haven't solely been looking at ahl and ISO. Or at least some of us haven't.
On Venom, he's likely not scum. Scum is likely going to be Carnage's crew. And as much as he likes to say he's neutral, he also likes to point to mod posts, which at this time I'll point to the OP that specifically says Carnage has allies. My working theory is that Carnage is only invincible so long as they are alive. If we take them out, Carnage will be vulnerable.
Hence why I'm testing Ahl and not ISO. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #378 Oct 13, 2013 0:36:35 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message @Purphoros: I don't really care who you people think I am, but I've already stated that I'm not being influenced by any symbiote. Also, if you believe that **** about Carnage teaming up with town after Venom is dead, FoS on you
@JayDreven: Agreed. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #379 Oct 13, 2013 0:42:50 (Edited) Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message JayDreven wrote: Those aren't mutually exclusive things. You can scumhunt while maintaining a vote on either of those. At some point we will have to seek other options, that's why we haven't solely been looking at ahl and ISO. Or at least some of us haven't.
Gut says that they're probably not lying anyways (and I know that more than a few abilities mess with lynching) so I'm not inclined to wake the bear.
JayDreven wrote: On Venom, he's likely not scum. Scum is likely going to be Carnage's crew. And as much as he likes to say he's neutral, he also likes to point to mod posts, which at this time I'll point to the OP that specifically says Carnage has allies. My working theory is that Carnage is only invincible so long as they are alive. If we take them out, Carnage will be vulnerable.
Obligatory "In before town tries to modgame/flavorgame a closed set".
LordMark wrote: @Purphoros: I don't really care who you people think I am, but I've already stated that I'm not being influenced by any symbiote. Also, if you believe that **** about Carnage teaming up with town after Venom is dead, FoS on you
You =! rest of the town. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #380 Oct 13, 2013 0:44:00 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message And yes I would just fine with using IsoSTARDUST's daykill as a second lynch so we can get rid of all of these **** lurkers. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #381 Oct 13, 2013 0:57:54 (Edited)
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Purphoros wrote: And yes I would just fine with using IsoSTARDUST's daykill as a second lynch so we can get rid of all of these **** lurkers.
P.S. If you have a posting restriction that prevents you from following the minimum 1 post per week rule you are exempted from modwrath. Johnnyboy has no such posting restriction. He's been proded twice. I guess it's time to follow a different incentive approach. *gets noose ready*
Where's the love guys? I worked really hard on this game. Lurkers make me sad.
But then I read some of Iso's posts and I am happy again so it's all good.
Carry on with your game folks! Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message JayDreven wrote:
Purphoros wrote: Given that about half of the players in this game are inactive, we'll never run up Ahylis or IsoSTARDUST.
I would rather use that time to scumhunt.
Those aren't mutually exclusive things. You can scumhunt while maintaining a vote on either of those. At some point we will have to seek other options, that's why we haven't solely been looking at ahl and ISO. Or at least some of us haven't.
On Venom, he's likely not scum. Scum is likely going to be Carnage's crew. And as much as he likes to say he's neutral, he also likes to point to mod posts, which at this time I'll point to the OP that specifically says Carnage has allies. My working theory is that Carnage is only invincible so long as they are alive. If we take them out, Carnage will be vulnerable.
Hence why I'm testing Ahl and not ISO.
This actually makes sense.
Obviously I'm not posting a lot. Having trouble getting into this game. I'll try and pick it up.
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Block User Direct Message Let's start with @Purphoros - why was my vote on Ahlyis bad? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #384 Oct 13, 2013 3:14:22 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message JayDreven wrote: Ahl isn't a publicly confirmed neutral. Neither is ISO. They are publicly claimed neutral.
ur dum
Purphoros wrote: And yes I would just fine with using IsoSTARDUST's daykill as a second lynch so we can get rid of all of these **** lurkers.
I'd consider it if I had, y'know, more than one Daykill a Day. As it is, my priority is Venom. If I happen to hit scum along the way, cool for you guys.
LordMark wrote: Respecting the mod and being his bitch are two different things
DIAF
I have my reasons.
JayDreven wrote: IsoSTARDUST wrote: Seriously, why are people even asking this **** anymore? First Shockwave, now this.
Seriously, read the damn posts the mod is making.
This is a bastard game. The only truths that you can take from the mod are those he tells you are absolute truths. In this situation that applies to our role PMs only. The "damn posts" that you referred to are not free and clear of lies guaranteed. I, for one, have read what Zinger has written but I choose to investigate all possibilities, especially when there's a blatant flavor disconnect and we know that Zinger could be lying about how things actually went down.
But, of course, applying mafia flavor to maximum carnage would align Caranage on some level with Shriek, even though he would still be consider self aligned as his crew was not seen by Carnage as teammates, rather than pawns. So I understand you're probably just trying to protect your pawn here.
ur dum
Seppel_ wrote: Someone tried to kill me.
Little did they know that I'm an unkillable unlynchable miller vig (for real).
lolwut
Why would anyone waste a killing ability on you at this point Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #385 Oct 13, 2013 5:39:37 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Yeah, had my car and phone stolen recently, so this game slipped my mind. Sorry guys.
The way I see it is that voting for Carnage is likely going to fail. I have no doubts he can be killed, but lynching him? Too easy. Symbiotes hate fire, and loud noises.
I will have a more detailed post than this tomorrow, but this is merely to say I am here, and I have caught up. Report Comment "Hello, you have reached the Mafia. We are currently being apprehended by the police, but if you leave a message, we will get back to you, either from this phone at our leisure, or our one phone call from prison. Remember, your call is important to us." http://community.wizards.com/paranoia Join my Promotional mafia game here. "I stepped out, I did not step down." AIM Mishaps... L2 Judge (And still completely clueless) TOP REPLY QUOTE #386 Oct 13, 2013 9:11:34 (Edited) Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message EtR wrote: Let's start with @Purphoros - why was my vote on Ahlyis bad?
Your vote was "lol, so Ahylis claimed scum!". Right after..
Zinger2099 wrote: But wait...something is wrong. This is not the evil you were looking for.
Such a blatant sheep, and your posts in the ending were trying for you to justify a bad vote.
Your posts have been devoid of scumhunting also. If you could me any literally thoughts on any other player I'll be a happy man. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #387 Oct 13, 2013 9:12:56 (Edited) Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message EtR wrote:
JayDreven wrote:
Purphoros wrote: Given that about half of the players in this game are inactive, we'll never run up Ahylis or IsoSTARDUST.
I would rather use that time to scumhunt.
Those aren't mutually exclusive things. You can scumhunt while maintaining a vote on either of those. At some point we will have to seek other options, that's why we haven't solely been looking at ahl and ISO. Or at least some of us haven't.
On Venom, he's likely not scum. Scum is likely going to be Carnage's crew. And as much as he likes to say he's neutral, he also likes to point to mod posts, which at this time I'll point to the OP that specifically says Carnage has allies. My working theory is that Carnage is only invincible so long as they are alive. If we take them out, Carnage will be vulnerable.
Hence why I'm testing Ahl and not ISO.
This actually makes sense.
If it's making sense to you, then how come you're not voting Ahylis? Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #388 Oct 13, 2013 10:52:05
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Block User Direct Message ur dum Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #390 Oct 13, 2013 14:07:33 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote: Arioch22: Posts about lynch thresholds, confirms some role playing ****, says a lot of things about Ahylis but doesn't actually say anything in that pile of words (uselessPost™) then follows up with more useless things. AM I SUPPOSED TO VOTE THESE PEOPLE OR LEAVE THEM BY THE WAYSIDE? If I remember correctly, there were a couple people that did agree with what I said about Ahl, which leads me to believe that others didn't have as much trouble as you deriving some meaning out if it. I did say something, just because you might not agree with it doesn't mean I didn't say anything. Since you seem to have trouble understanding, I'll make it simple for you: I'm not willing to take Ahl at his word and think he should tested at some point in the game. Is that more clear for you?
I too am having trouble getting into this game so far. There isn't a whole lot going on and I work better in the late game when we have actual information to work with. I am following along, but really there hasn't been much happening in the game to pique my interest, basically a bunch of theorizing.
No one stands out as being very scummy to me yet and my vote is restricted so I can't really be voting yet anyway.
If you have any questions you would like me to directly answer, I would be happy to as long as it doesn't involve me claiming. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #392 Oct 13, 2013 17:22:47
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Block User Direct Message IsoSTARDUST wrote:
JayDreven wrote: Ahl isn't a publicly confirmed neutral. Neither is ISO. They are publicly claimed neutral. ur dum
JayDreven wrote:
This is a bastard game. The only truths that you can take from the mod are those he tells you are absolute truths. In this situation that applies to our role PMs only. The "damn posts" that you referred to are not free and clear of lies guaranteed. I, for one, have read what Zinger has written but I choose to investigate all possibilities, especially when there's a blatant flavor disconnect and we know that Zinger could be lying about how things actually went down.
But, of course, applying mafia flavor to maximum carnage would align Caranage on some level with Shriek, even though he would still be consider self aligned as his crew was not seen by Carnage as teammates, rather than pawns. So I understand you're probably just trying to protect your pawn here.
ur dum
I'm reading this as, "You're absolutely right. I have no basis to offer a counter argument. I'll just throw insults in a effort to make myself look less wrong." Correct? Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #393 Oct 13, 2013 20:18:15
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Block User Direct Message Biggest reason I have no motivation to play this game: My vig ability is a dayvig and I just have to wait for it to recharge.
"Johnny_Combo_Player: WOW, THIS GUY HAS NOT EVEN POSTED EVEN ONCE YET."
Ok.
Disappearin' the Cow: Johnny_Combo_Player
Like seriously how is this game balanced at all? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #394 Oct 13, 2013 20:35:29 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message tmich wrote: @edeon: why should we vig ahl and lynch an inactive? What is the difference?
I already conceded the Ahl vig, hence voting him. The lynch inactives was in the undestanding that Zinger saying now inactives are your issue (or something like that), we didn't have any mod policy on them, that has since been proven wrong, so yeah, no difference since they weren't even related and one point was conceded before I brought the second. Report Comment random stuff my colors if they weren't obvious enough TOP REPLY QUOTE #395 Oct 13, 2013 20:50:51
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Block User Direct Message Seppel_ wrote: Disappearin' the Cow: Johnny_Combo_Player
Like seriously how is this game balanced at all? You didn't see his post? even if it was a will post later post, it was better than FFP's one or the other lurkers I'm almost sure haven't posted either Seppel_ wrote: Someone tried to kill me.
Little did they know that I'm an unkillable unlynchable miller vig (for real). So 3 unlynchables and this one says he'll appear scum in investigations, this claim reeks of scum, any proof of the alleged kill?
Seppel_ wrote: @Ragnarokio: So if I have a cop dayshot, that's usable once per day, you can make it so I can cop the entire game on D1?
Sign me up. If this post is true then you wasted your only hit on a player that wants to contribute, great job.
Unvote, Vote: Seppel Report Comment random stuff my colors if they weren't obvious enough TOP REPLY QUOTE #396 Oct 13, 2013 22:50:24 (Edited)
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@ seppell: did you not see johnny combo players post? Or did you see it and decide to kill/disappear him anyway? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #399 Oct 14, 2013 5:11:58 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message JayDreven wrote:
IsoSTARDUST wrote:
JayDreven wrote: Ahl isn't a publicly confirmed neutral. Neither is ISO. They are publicly claimed neutral. ur dum
JayDreven wrote:
This is a bastard game. The only truths that you can take from the mod are those he tells you are absolute truths. In this situation that applies to our role PMs only. The "damn posts" that you referred to are not free and clear of lies guaranteed. I, for one, have read what Zinger has written but I choose to investigate all possibilities, especially when there's a blatant flavor disconnect and we know that Zinger could be lying about how things actually went down.
But, of course, applying mafia flavor to maximum carnage would align Caranage on some level with Shriek, even though he would still be consider self aligned as his crew was not seen by Carnage as teammates, rather than pawns. So I understand you're probably just trying to protect your pawn here.
ur dum
I'm reading this as, "You're absolutely right. I have no basis to offer a counter argument. I'll just throw insults in a effort to make myself look less wrong." Correct?
Please see: ur dum Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #400 Oct 14, 2013 6:23:23
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Block User Direct Message @Mod: Back from Colorado, and from VLA Also, curse you for ruining a later moment!
Anyway, even if Jameson isn't happy about it, I'm glad to see the wall crawler back. IsoSTARDUST wrote: Seppel_ wrote: Someone tried to kill me.
Little did they know that I'm an unkillable unlynchable miller vig (for real).
lolwut
Why would anyone waste a killing ability on you at this point I would in a heartbeat if I was actually mafia like Purphoros believes. Seppel always identifies my team Day 1 after the first post I make. Purphoros wrote: I cannot get my head into this game.
I literally cannot analyze claims and mechanics and get a read on people who do. I've been trained on analyzing behavior.
I cannot analyze stupid role speculation and useless posts which don't do anything at all.
I was going to replace out of this game if I had the choice but given that I wanted to join this game as a teaching opportunity to my hydra buddy it appears as though I will have to "tough it out" and keep pushing along the game.
So, let's start with trying to get a read on my null reads:
Feroz-s_Familiar_Pheldy: Posts a post to confirm and votes IsoSTARDUST. Replaces out. Does absolutely nothing.
Ragnarokio: Says something about hyperboosting your abilities. THAT'S IT.
Arioch22: Posts about lynch thresholds, confirms some role playing ****, says a lot of things about Ahylis but doesn't actually say anything in that pile of words (uselessPost™) then follows up with more useless things. AM I SUPPOSED TO VOTE THESE PEOPLE OR LEAVE THEM BY THE WAYSIDE?
JayDreven: Starts questioning people then tries out Ahylis's alignment. Actually interacts with people. Whoa! If he actually gives thoughts on players before the Day ends then I'll sleep better at night. But revising this to leaning town, given that he's one of the few players who are actually doing anything.
PeregrineV: Is absent for most of the game then posts a read list, which.. is nothing without reasoning to back it up. THAT'S IT. Pdr_Br: So passive with his first post. "Hey guys, I'm here, whoa interesting abilities". Confirms bad role play. Unusually concerned with Spider-Man. Moved to leaning scum because passiveness.
tmich: Votes edeon and says "discuss" and NEVER PUSHES THE DISCUSSION ON HIS VOTE, WHICH WOULD HAVE LED TO MUCH MORE USEFUL DISCUSSION. Is actually voting players for ~quasilegit reasons? Asks lots of questions. Has a nice rants post, kind of. Has rational conclusions anyone can agree with. Whoa is actually trying to solve the game like JayDreven. Currently tmich and I are so on the same page right now. (he's probably earnest town)
The_Unwritten: Two posts with nothing in them. REALLY?!
Zokorad: Does something to Ahylis. Says Iso is suspicious without voting him. ZERO.
Murica: FoSes without vote. Tunnels Ahylis then puts a vote. The question is, why didn't he use his vote in the first place? More IIoA. Burn him (IsoSTARDUST, will you oblige?)
Johnny_Combo_Player: WOW, THIS GUY HAS NOT EVEN POSTED EVEN ONCE YET.
EtR: Bad vote on Ahylis. Like that's it. wow.
burning_earth: Votes Iso "just in case" presumably RVS. Self conscious with regards to IsoSTARDUST. Never removes his RVS vote, which I consider a scumtell. "I'm a townie (or am I)" so bad. Just hopped onto the bottom of my scum list for committing real scum slips.
Seppel_: Hey look another ragnarokio. LIKE LOL ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
So currently we have two unlynchable and unkillable derps that are bad for game design because they pretty much make you lurk for the entire game.
We have four town in the form of tmich, LordMark, JayDreven, and Jedcaj that will lead us to victory.
We have NINE PLAYERS who are currently not playing the game.
And we have six scum in the form of Clinic, Pdr, edeon, Murica, resyx, and burning_earth, which may be subject to further scrutiny.
Really I want to be a Townie Dreaming God and choose the Hickory Dickory Dock option.
Question Purphoros, you post a whole bunch of players and what's not good about them, then proceed to name six players (myself included) as mafia, but you don't give any reasoning for a few of them. Why? What makes Clinic or edeon mafia? (It's too bad you can't edit your post, as your reading on Pdr got hidden in your read of PeregrineV's.)
Also I find it interesting that you list four town, rather than five. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #401 Oct 14, 2013 8:08:39
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Block User Direct Message Arioch22 wrote: I'll make it simple for you: I'm not willing to take Ahl at his word and think he should tested at some point in the game. Is that more clear for you?
Do it like how JayDreven does - he's doing a similar thing as you.
edeon wrote: Unvote, Vote: Seppel
Do you really think that a rechargable daykill is in the hands of scum?
Resyx wrote:
Question Purphoros, you post a whole bunch of players and what's not good about them, then proceed to name six players (myself included) as mafia, but you don't give any reasoning for a few of them. Why? What makes Clinic or edeon mafia? (It's too bad you can't edit your post, as your reading on Pdr got hidden in your read of PeregrineV's.)
Also I find it interesting that you list four town, rather than five.
Those were all of my null reads. I listed why all my scumreads were scum previously.
Why do you find it "interesting"? Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #403 Oct 14, 2013 13:45:50 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote: Do you really think that a rechargable daykill is in the hands of scum? You didn't kill him, you blinked him, we don't know that you actually killed him and if you can do that again, and considering your earlier post I'd think it was a one shot. Even if this post is thruth we've seen abilities fail and 2 (maybe 3) unkillables (by normal means), how many more do we have, after all this is a bastard game. Report Comment random stuff my colors if they weren't obvious enough TOP REPLY QUOTE #404 Oct 14, 2013 15:11:29
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Block User Direct Message I have evidence that for personal reasons want to hide that JCP's vanishment is related to his role. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #405 Oct 14, 2013 16:16:10
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Zokorad wrote: I have evidence that for personal reasons want to hide that JCP's vanishment is related to his role. We have someone "Disappearing the Cow: JCP", followed shortly thereafter by the Mod saying JCP has vanished... and you want us to believe it was JCP's role that did it? Without any proof you're willing to share?
Um, what was the point of your post? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #406 Oct 14, 2013 16:19:08 (Reply to #404)
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Block User Direct Message You're saying Seppel(who claimed to be the happy mask salesman) had nothing to do with the disappearance of JCP? When he said "disappearin' the cow", I immediately thought he was Magical Trevor which makes just as much sense as the mask salesman. Where is your evidence? Can you share it with us? Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #407 Oct 14, 2013 16:53:34 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message @Jay: Given that "ur dum" is an obviously tongue-in-cheek statement (given that I would have to be dumb to legitimately believe "you're dumb" was spelled that way), I'm pretty sure you know that your argument has no basis in reality, given that you're really stretching your defense, here.
@Mark: r u dum 2??? Seppel isn't the Happy Mask Salesman. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #408 Oct 14, 2013 17:25:27 (Edited) (Reply to #407)
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Block User Direct Message You're not helping your case, because Seppel DID claim to be the Happy Mask Salesman. Or have you forgotten already?
IF you don't believe me, check page 3. Here's some of what he said:
Seppel_ wrote: So, I'm the guy that tried to run away prematurely right?
Hey all, I am the Happy Masks Salesman. I'm a neutral player who will leave the game at some point when I have accomplished my win condition which mostly has to do with masks. ... Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #409 Oct 14, 2013 17:46:46 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Seppel was quoting Zinger from another site. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #410 Oct 14, 2013 17:47:26
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Block User Direct Message It's an on-going game so I'm not going to say anything more about it. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #411 Oct 14, 2013 17:49:29 (Reply to #409)
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Block User Direct Message Really? Let's see it, then. Show everyone exactly what you're talking about. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #412 Oct 14, 2013 17:51:27 (Reply to #410)
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Block User Direct Message If that's true, then he broke the "no referencing rule". You're probably okay, though. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #413 Oct 14, 2013 19:04:52 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message IsoSTARDUST wrote: @Jay: Given that "ur dum" is an obviously tongue-in-cheek statement (given that I would have to be dumb to legitimately believe "you're dumb" was spelled that way), I'm pretty sure you know that your argument has no basis in reality, given that you're really stretching your defense, here.
Given you're still inable to craft an argument that's contrary to mine with any factual basis but are continuing to insist I'm wrong, I see no reason not to question whether or not you legitimately believe "you're dumb" is spelled "ur dum".
On my said there are numerous facts supporting my stance. For one, Zinger hasn't confirmed you or Ahl in thread and given us a bastard free guarantee. Second is blatantly in the OP which clearly states "Little does he know that this time CARNAGE has allies of his own..." Third is the actual story of Maximum Carnage, which went down just like I said it did. So now that've I've established that my argument is founded in reality and you have still yet to provide a single counter point...try again. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #414 Oct 14, 2013 19:49:04
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Block User Direct Message JayDreven wrote:
IsoSTARDUST wrote: @Jay: Given that "ur dum" is an obviously tongue-in-cheek statement (given that I would have to be dumb to legitimately believe "you're dumb" was spelled that way), I'm pretty sure you know that your argument has no basis in reality, given that you're really stretching your defense, here.
Given you're still inable to craft an argument that's contrary to mine with any factual basis but are continuing to insist I'm wrong, I see no reason not to question whether or not you legitimately believe "you're dumb" is spelled "ur dum".
On my said there are numerous facts supporting my stance. For one, Zinger hasn't confirmed you or Ahl in thread and given us a bastard free guarantee. Second is blatantly in the OP which clearly states "Little does he know that this time CARNAGE has allies of his own..." Third is the actual story of Maximum Carnage, which went down just like I said it did. So now that've I've established that my argument is founded in reality and you have still yet to provide a single counter point...try again.
Given that I can't quote my role PM...
ur dum Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #415 Oct 14, 2013 19:57:22
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Who knew carnage was more than just a killing machine? Who knew he was also a troll?!?! Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #416 Oct 14, 2013 20:25:35 (Reply to #414)
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Block User Direct Message Dude, Zinger specifically stated that we should not forget that this is just a game. If there's something in your role pm that says you're right, then you can take pride in knowing you're right. There isn't any reason to continue this nonsense. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #417 Oct 14, 2013 22:12:33
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Block User Direct Message IsoSTARDUST wrote: Given that I can't quote my role PM...
ur dum
If you need to quote your role pm, then you aren't confirmed, you're just claimed. As I said.
If you need to quote your role pm, then you've only proven my point that just because Zinger says something doesn't mean we should take it at face value.
You're really good at proving my points. Also try again. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #418 Oct 15, 2013 0:49:35 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote:
burning_earth: Votes Iso "just in case" presumably RVS. Self conscious with regards to IsoSTARDUST. Never removes his RVS vote, which I consider a scumtell. "I'm a townie (or am I)" so bad. Just hopped onto the bottom of my scum list for committing real scum slips.
Thing is, it wasn't really RVS. I thought, though I think this less so now, that it was obviuos Carnage would be good to kill. But yes, I do think that I should remove my vote on Carnage, at least for now, so Unvote
The (or am I ) was just me joking around, but reading it again it does actually make me look quite scummy. So I could get lynched that way after my last game in which I called for no lynch? Great play by me right? Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote:
We have NINE PLAYERS who are currently not playing the game.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Aaaaw. Lookit that. JayDreven posted something in RED. That's cute. Standing up to big ol' CARNAGE by using his favorite color huh? You know, someone else tried to stand up to him once. I wonder what happened to him?
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Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote: Who knew carnage was more than just a killing machine? Who knew he was also a troll?!?!
I certainly did!
LordMark wrote: Dude, Zinger specifically stated that we should not forget that this is just a game. If there's something in your role pm that says you're right, then you can take pride in knowing you're right. There isn't any reason to continue this nonsense.
Fair. I need to get one more dig in on Jay, though.
JayDreven wrote:
IsoSTARDUST wrote: Given that I can't quote my role PM...
ur dum
If you need to quote your role pm, then you aren't confirmed, you're just claimed. As I said.
If you need to quote your role pm, then you've only proven my point that just because Zinger says something doesn't mean we should take it at face value.
You're really good at proving my points. Also try again.
Congratulations, you have brought the ire of a confirmed Neutral with a repeatable killing role upon yourself.
I'm sure you can guess what happens next time I'm able to kill.
In short: ur dum Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #422 Oct 15, 2013 1:26:26
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Block User Direct Message Nath'd by the mod!
I would love it if you all just piled on to Jay. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #423 Oct 15, 2013 1:55:41
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Block User Direct Message Vote JayDreven Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #424 Oct 15, 2013 2:01:39 (Edited) (Reply to #423)
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Block User Direct Message That looks like you're siding with Carnage for no reason...When did you give a reason for voting for Jay? What did Jay do to deserve this? Sure, he posted in red, big deal. No reason to kill him. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #425 Oct 15, 2013 2:37:19
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Block User Direct Message Seppel is a pretty cool guy, eh. Votes Jay and doesn't afraid of Carnage. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #426 Oct 15, 2013 5:02:08 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote: Those were all of my null reads. I listed why all my scumreads were scum previously.
Why do you find it "interesting"?
I see why I thought I missed it, your reads on your suspects were 6 pages ago.
I find it interesting because from your mindset, I see 5 town I mean, there's the 4 you listed and then yourself, right?
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As for Jay, right now, I'm chalking up his really poor argument to just not knowing Iso. Because mitguss. But he gets a FOS for hounding Iso over a little meme. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #427 Oct 15, 2013 5:30:38 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Who are you anyway, Resyx, if you know Seppel? Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #428 Oct 15, 2013 8:51:12
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Instead of arguing with iso/ahlyis/seppel why not just test their claims with a vote? I've been saying this for days now but hardly anyone is getting on board. If town is not going to organise itself we have no chance of winning. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #429 Oct 15, 2013 10:07:57 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Go ahead and test my unlynchability.
Then dogpile on Jay. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #430 Oct 15, 2013 13:25:24 (Reply to #429)
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Block User Direct Message Dude, that is more like asking for the mod to kill you. I'd say good luck if you were town but you claimed neutral.
@Clinic: the problem being that we have 9 people who aren't playing and the neutrals won't help unless it benefits them. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #431 Oct 15, 2013 13:38:06 (Edited)
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I'll be interested in seeing if Seppel's punishment for posting in red is the same as Jay's. If having votes count double on you is the only drawback to posting in red, expect me to start using red as well.
Clinic wrote: Instead of arguing with iso/ahlyis/seppel why not just test their claims with a vote? I've been saying this for days now but hardly anyone is getting on board. If town is not going to organise itself we have no chance of winning. You're joking, right?
You do realize that this game will NEVER progress past Day 1, right? We have way too many inactives and lurkers to ever get enough votes on someone that can actually be lynched. And the rules state that there will never be a deadline for the day to be force ended. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #432 Oct 15, 2013 13:46:09
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Seppel_ wrote: Go ahead and test my unlynchability.
Then dogpile on Jay.
Ok let's see.
Vote: Seppel x2
PS: How can we use color in these forums? Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #433 Oct 15, 2013 14:08:26 (Reply to #431)
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Block User Direct Message Zinger said that the punishments for breaking the rules would worsen as people broke them, did he not? I'm thinking this time it's going to be a serious one.
Also, I doubt that Zinger would let the day last forever. He has the ability to do whatever he wants, so if it drags on too long he might lynch the highest voted person or something. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #434 Oct 15, 2013 16:04:17 (Edited) tmich Joined May 2012 1037 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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I had a short discussion with the mod about me posting excelsior in the precedent post.
He complained that it wasn't an english word,
I pointed out that it is widespreath enough and similar enough to excellent to be easy to interpret as sarcasm and not cause confusion, he said that it actually meant "up to the sky" and it was trueI used it for years and I was completely sure it meant excellent, now that part of the post doesn't make any sense, sorry about that.
Next kill on B_E,edeon or clinic plox.
Actually I don't even know what I'm seeing on clinic, I just feel that he is not town from his posts.
I probably need to read him again, It's kind of weird, I just can't see a town aligned player writing anyone of his posts(from what I remember), but I already had this feeling, maybe a bit less in another game(alien mafia, on ambitious) and it turned town, but this is a lot more strong than that.
Still wanting to hear more about murica, kind of a weak scumread on him, more near to neutral now . @purphoros: Can you write again a short list of reasons to vote your scumspects? Probably nearly nobody is going to read those posts again and we need a lynch sooner or later.
Pdr looks more like a neutral or maybe a town aligned player with an antitown personal wincon than mafia, for what I remember.
No Idea on rexys, the only thing I remember about him is the bolas avatar, this could actually be a problem.
I don't see jed as town, more like null as of now, waiting for him to post more.
I disagree on JD leading us to victory(past experiences) but I can see him being town more easily than a lot of other players.
Also what JD said, consider my vote still on B_E(or was I voting someone else before ahl? But consider it on B_E now), (I'mstarting to think about switching my virtual vote to clinic,dude sounds SO MUCH FAKE).
Zoko could be town, I need to read his posts more and see more of his posts now.
Frankly nearly everybody sounds so fake is ridicolous. And EtR's play is ridicolous, not even ridicoloulsy scummy, just ridicolous,like, what the heck is he doing.
Seppel should be left alive for today IMHO,I can't remember nothing incriminating from him and he pulls crazy gambits in a lot of games. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #435 Oct 15, 2013 16:08:32
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Block User Direct Message So anyway, to use color, use [] tags around color=PUTCOLORHERE and then to end it type [/color]. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #437 Oct 15, 2013 16:11:01
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Why didn't it work? Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #443 Oct 15, 2013 17:34:21
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I was testing my color votes Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #445 Oct 15, 2013 17:28:54
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Block User Direct Message IsoSTARDUST wrote: Congratulations, you have brought the ire of a confirmed Neutral with a repeatable killing role upon yourself.
I'm sure you can guess what happens next time I'm able to kill.
Yep. You'll fail to kill me like you failed to kill LordMark. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #446 Oct 15, 2013 17:34:15 (Reply to #443)
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Why does the angry mob have a split vote, and why isn't it worth 3 votes anymore? And why do the votes against seppel count for 1.5 instead of 3?
Also, @tmich: Excelsior is also the catchphrase of Stan Lee. He signed off with it in every single bulletin, apparently. I had thought there was a connection...I guess it was just coincidence? Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #447 Oct 15, 2013 17:37:05
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Block User Direct Message Oh right, the x3 vote I'm remembering was just Zinger voting because he can. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #448 Oct 15, 2013 17:45:40 (Edited)
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Pdr_Br wrote: Why didn't it work? because you improperly nested your tags. You had the Bold and the Color tags crossing each other. If you put both Bold tags outside the two Color tags, or vice versa, it will work. If you have one outside and one inside, then you get results liky you did, where the Bold tag worked, but the color tag did not. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #449 Oct 15, 2013 17:58:02 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message It seems that JD had a second penalty where everyone voting for him had votes on them halved. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #450 Oct 15, 2013 18:01:29 (Reply to #449)
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Block User Direct Message That could be easily confirmed by anyone who has votes on them. Simply test it out. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #451 Oct 15, 2013 18:10:26
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Block User Direct Message Or it's part of Seppel's role. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #452 Oct 15, 2013 18:16:08 (Reply to #451)
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Block User Direct Message Yeah, perhaps that's why he can be considered "unlynchable". High threshold, halved votes against him. There's always a way to get around those, though. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #453 Oct 15, 2013 21:47:13 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Edeon, would you think that scum would their blink/daykill in a more controlled fashion? (aka: not randomly removing one lurker from the game)
For people that are arguing w/IsoSTARDUST, stop. It clutters up the thread with more **** and it adds absolutely nothing in terms on trying to find out other's alignments.
No one should be voting JayDreven. He's probably town.
Resyx wrote:
Purphoros wrote: Those were all of my null reads. I listed why all my scumreads were scum previously.
Why do you find it "interesting"?
I see why I thought I missed it, your reads on your suspects were 6 pages ago.
I find it interesting because from your mindset, I see 5 town I mean, there's the 4 you listed and then yourself, right?
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As for Jay, right now, I'm chalking up his really poor argument to just not knowing Iso. Because mitguss. But he gets a FOS for hounding Iso over a little meme.
I don't include myself in my analysis.
And how is "hounding Iso over a little meme" scummy?
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@purphoros: Can you write again a short list of reasons to vote your scumspects? Probably nearly nobody is going to read those posts again and we need a lynch sooner or later.
I'll provide some cases soon.
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vote: seppel
I don't get why votes would be halved on him if he was also unlynchable. I think he's bluffing. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #457 Oct 15, 2013 22:49:52 (Reply to #456)
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Block User Direct Message You're not getting it; those who claim to be "unlynchable" or "unkillable" are only saying so because their roles probably tell them something that makes them believe it. Like Ahl said before, they don't care about the "what-if" scenario in which they are no longer invincible until that day comes.
Now, I'm not saying any of the "invincible" players need to be taken out just yet(if at all), I'm just saying that it's not hopeless if we ever need to stop them. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #458 Oct 15, 2013 22:51:45 (Reply to #455)
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros, can you explain this government nonsense? Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #459 Oct 15, 2013 23:07:59 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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Block User Direct Message I'd like Jay to die Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #461 Oct 15, 2013 23:27:06 (Reply to #460)
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Block User Direct Message Well we don't all get what we want now do we? Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #462 Oct 16, 2013 0:44:39
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote: Edeon, would you think that scum would their blink/daykill in a more controlled fashion? (aka: not randomly removing one lurker from the game) It was a scummy move, not something intelligent for a mafia to do, but scummy. What I think happened with him is that is perceived unkillabliity and a non-care for townies made him pull the trigger so easily. Also not because you're mafia you won't ever touch an inactive either disdain for the inactives or a flawed try to look town (emphasis on flawed) Report Comment random stuff my colors if they weren't obvious enough TOP REPLY QUOTE #463 Oct 16, 2013 2:51:36
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don't tell me how to live my life
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Purphoros wrote: Edeon, would you think that scum would their blink/daykill in a more controlled fashion? (aka: not randomly removing one lurker from the game)
It was a scummy move, not something intelligent for a mafia to do, but scummy. What I think happened with him is that is perceived unkillabliity and a non-care for townies made him pull the trigger so easily. Also not because you're mafia you won't ever touch an inactive either disdain for the inactives or a flawed try to look town (emphasis on flawed)
Is that referring to my Daykill or Seppel's? Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #464 Oct 16, 2013 3:13:12 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message IsoSTARDUST wrote: Who are you anyway, Resyx, if you know Seppel? You mean, who am I if I know you so well. You've only reviewed one of my games as well...
And you have a hint that even Seppel wouldn't get. I said that my weakness is my love of gambits.
Obviously, I am the great and powerful... TK-421 pewpew
Anyway Purphoros wrote: I don't include myself in my analysis.
And how is "hounding Iso over a little meme" scummy? Fair, I know others who do that. I've always erred on the side of completeness and include myself, even if it's just "Town, obviously".
As for Jay's hounding being bad, it's because it looks like he's trying to push a case that's based on nothing. If it weren't for the fact that Iso seems to lack an actual vote and also be somewhat unkillable for the time being, I'd say he's trying to get a mislynch. But as noted, I suspect it's just Jay not being used to Iso's "ur dum" phrasing. (I've seen it plenty of times in my working with him) Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #465 Oct 16, 2013 3:35:37
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oh hi TK Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #466 Oct 16, 2013 4:47:24
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Yo Iso. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #467 Oct 16, 2013 6:56:17
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Well if we all vote seppel then he gets enough votes to get lynched. Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #468 Oct 16, 2013 7:44:36
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Block User Direct Message 1.5 votes... cute. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #469 Oct 16, 2013 9:13:03 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Resyx wrote: As for Jay's hounding being bad, it's because it looks like he's trying to push a case that's based on nothing. If it weren't for the fact that Iso seems to lack an actual vote and also be somewhat unkillable for the time being, I'd say he's trying to get a mislynch. But as noted, I suspect it's just Jay not being used to Iso's "ur dum" phrasing. (I've seen it plenty of times in my working with him)
There are a couple fundamental flaws with your reasoning. First, I've theorized that Iso's immunity will stand until he's the last remaining threat. This requires a stance of lynching every other threat before anything is even attempted against Iso. Such to say, I'm not pushing a lynch Iso agenda. This is supported by the fact that I'm also currently not voting for Iso. Secondly, Iso isn't town. Even if we did lynch him, his lynch would only be a mislynch if it cost town the game at that very point. But going back to point one, if all the other threats are removed and the game is still going, it's not going to be a mislynch.
Question for you now, why are you so defensive of a player that's admitted to not being town?
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Because he needs Carnage for his win condition? Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #471 Oct 16, 2013 13:29:27
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Pdr_Br wrote: Because he needs Carnage for his win condition? So...
You are saying we shouldn't lynch anyone because it might help Iso.
Scum much?
If I had a vote, I would vote for you. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #472 Oct 16, 2013 13:37:23 (Reply to #471)
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No I said that because it could be the reason why Resyx is defending Iso.
That is an hypothesis, and no I dont think town shouldn't stop lynching people we think are suspicious because it can help somebody else. If it helps town then we should do it.
As for how to deal with Carnage, I don't have a clear answer for that problem; perhaps that are roles that can help us get rid of him. Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #473 Oct 16, 2013 14:14:43
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Block User Direct Message I don't see how TK-421 could be a character role in this, unless he's actually Luke Skywalker. I can't figure out what abilities he'd have but whatever.
@Pdr_Br: Seppel needs 24 votes to lynch him, -1 for each person who can't vote(+1 for your extra vote). I don't think we can do it. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #474 Oct 16, 2013 14:15:40
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Block User Direct Message Unless he has a lower threshold than the majority, Seppel is invincible as he claims.. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #475 Oct 16, 2013 14:17:44 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message IsoSTARDUST wrote: edeon wrote:
Purphoros wrote: Edeon, would you think that scum would their blink/daykill in a more controlled fashion? (aka: not randomly removing one lurker from the game)
It was a scummy move, not something intelligent for a mafia to do, but scummy. What I think happened with him is that is perceived unkillabliity and a non-care for townies made him pull the trigger so easily. Also not because you're mafia you won't ever touch an inactive either disdain for the inactives or a flawed try to look town (emphasis on flawed)
Is that referring to my Daykill or Seppel's? Seppel's, we'll deal with you later. Report Comment random stuff my colors if they weren't obvious enough TOP REPLY QUOTE #476 Oct 16, 2013 14:44:27 (Edited)
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Sorry for my longer than expected absence. I skimmed through the posts and what I want to add is:
on Seppel: I'm not sure that there is a case on him here besides a little whichhunt. on Jay: I think there is even less of a case on Jay than there is on Seppel. As far as I can tell he is trying to argument his decision, and I also find his logic quite sound (most of the times).
on whoever said that the Ahlyis test is going nowhere because of inactives: best post since my departure. I'll probably have to go back to the beginning and push through the thread properly right now (or in the following days).
Also I don't want to burn Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #477 Oct 16, 2013 15:05:13
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Block User Direct Message Pdr_Br wrote: Well if we all vote seppel then he gets enough votes to get lynched.
I can't vote
Pdr_Br wrote: No I said that because it could be the reason why Resyx is defending Iso.
That is an hypothesis, and no I dont think town shouldn't stop lynching people we think are suspicious because it can help somebody else. If it helps town then we should do it.
As for how to deal with Carnage, I don't have a clear answer for that problem; perhaps that are roles that can help us get rid of him.
Why would we need to "deal with Carnage"?
LordMark wrote: I don't see how TK-421 could be a character role in this, unless he's actually Luke Skywalker. I can't figure out what abilities he'd have but whatever.
<-- Using that instead of a facepalm emote since apparently you guys don't have one. There's a lot that goes over your head in this game, isn't there? Resyx is known as TK-421 from a site that Seppel, Resyx, Zinger, EtR, and I all play Mafia on.
edeon wrote: IsoSTARDUST wrote: edeon wrote:
Purphoros wrote: Edeon, would you think that scum would their blink/daykill in a more controlled fashion? (aka: not randomly removing one lurker from the game)
It was a scummy move, not something intelligent for a mafia to do, but scummy. What I think happened with him is that is perceived unkillabliity and a non-care for townies made him pull the trigger so easily. Also not because you're mafia you won't ever touch an inactive either disdain for the inactives or a flawed try to look town (emphasis on flawed)
Is that referring to my Daykill or Seppel's?
Seppel's, we'll deal with you later.
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Sorry all, but this game is BORING AS HELL. I hate being a lurker. I prefer to be active no matter what my role is. But this game is seriously boring.
I can't really even try to work to help my Wincons along until night comes and I can try to make use of the many abilities I have available... but this Day will NEVER end anyway. Games without deadlines are pretty much doomed, especially big games. Too many inactives for a lynch majority to EVER be reached.
I suppose I'll keep reading, but I see little reason for me to keep trying to contribute. I see little reason for me to pay much attention or try to remember anything for tomorrow. I don't care who is or isn't scum. I only care about the various Wincons I need met... and I doubt any of them will occur today.
So... someone wake me up when the day ever comes to a close.
Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #479 Oct 16, 2013 15:32:50 (Edited) (Reply to #477)
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Block User Direct Message Over my head? Are you blind? What makes you think I bought that load of crap? Read what I said for once and maybe you'll understand why I said it. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #480 Oct 16, 2013 16:33:59 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message LordMark wrote: Over my head? Are you blind? What makes you think I bought that load of crap? Read what I said for once and maybe you'll understand why I said it. To be fair, this bit about TK does seem to have gone over your head. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #481 Oct 16, 2013 16:38:07
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Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote: ... but this Day will NEVER end anyway. Games without deadlines are pretty much doomed, especially big games. Too many inactives for a lynch majority to EVER be reached. I agree. We can barely get 12 people to post, and with not everyone even having a vote, not sure how there is ever going to be a lynch.
I know this is contrary to usual theory, and I don't generally like doing it, but how would people feel about lynching a lurker to get the game moving? It certainly doesn't seem like there is going to be a majority vote on anyone for reasons of scuminess any time soon. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE Pages « FIRST‹ PREVIOUS…8910111213141516…NEXT ›LAST » Paranoia ParadiseParanoia ParadiseGame ArchiveMAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia [TOWN/GOBLIN VICTORY] Reply Your name Zinger2099 Response * Format
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Block User Direct Message Perhaps I am missing something but I never once believed that he was sincerely claiming to be anyone from the star wars universe. Is that clear enough for you?
On another note; I agree that if indeed the day would drag on for another few days(irl) I would certainly jump on the wagon to get rid of a lurker. The problem is, I can't vote right now. Can't go into details why just yet. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #483 Oct 16, 2013 17:35:43
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Block User Direct Message We only need 4 more people to vote JayDreven.
If you just want the game to move on at this point, go ahead and vote him.
Otherwise I'll continue disappearin' people until they're all gone! Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #484 Oct 16, 2013 17:47:25 (Edited) (Reply to #483)
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But JD has been more helpful that the majority of the people so I prefer we lynch someone else. Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #485 Oct 16, 2013 17:48:34
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Seppel_ wrote: Otherwise I'll continue disappearin' people until they're all gone! Your ability doesn't sound like a killing ability, even if it might have effectively the same result.
You can probably Disappear me. That would likely get around my unkillableness. And frankly, if you want to do that, that's fine by me as I don't think this game is going anywhere anyway and if I can stop needing to follow it, it could save me some time during the day.
*shrugs* Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #486 Oct 16, 2013 18:08:51 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Seppel_ wrote: We only need 4 more people to vote JayDreven.
This is an incorrect assumption. Superheroes don't lynch easy, yo. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #487 Oct 16, 2013 18:23:31 (Reply to #485)
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Block User Direct Message It's not a killing ability. Only one person is dead so far and there is one missing.
I'm not for or against your wanting to "disappear". Better that than haivng another lurker, I guess. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #488 Oct 16, 2013 19:20:26
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Purphoros wrote: Edeon, would you think that scum would their blink/daykill in a more controlled fashion? (aka: not randomly removing one lurker from the game)
It was a scummy move, not something intelligent for a mafia to do, but scummy. What I think happened with him is that is perceived unkillabliity and a non-care for townies made him pull the trigger so easily. Also not because you're mafia you won't ever touch an inactive either disdain for the inactives or a flawed try to look town (emphasis on flawed)
Not intelligent =! scummy.
Seppel_ wrote: We only need 4 more people to vote JayDreven.
If you just want the game to move on at this point, go ahead and vote him.
Otherwise I'll continue disappearin' people until they're all gone!
Why do you think JayDreven is scum? Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #490 Oct 16, 2013 19:37:08 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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**** it, ability won't go into effect until Day 2.
Oh well, compiling cases now like a pleb. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #491 Oct 16, 2013 19:59:59 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I've reread burning_earth and I'm inclined to bump him up to a null read right now. His posts show a lot of self-awareness but I feel as if they can be explained as newbtown reactions.
Same with Clinic. His vote was overexplanatory, yes, but he's still in that top 10 percent of people who are actually contributing.
Case on Pdr_Br
- He says "So we have carnage and bunch of other people here with interesting abilities.". It's so passive. It's like he doesn't want to take a part in the action. - He begins to talk about Spider-Man and does stupid role-play speculation. How is this relevant to finding the scum? It's all useless. - He says "And what about you Murica, are you unkillable?". This is role fishing. - I never remember him actually scumhunting - he's never posted any thoughts on any player, from what I can recall, and his recent votes on Seppel are just useless lynchproof testing. Lynch him.
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So, yeah, I'm totally here now. That's a thing that exists.
Frankly, I think in the absence of a good lynch (as on d1) we should lynch Carnage if it has not already been tried. It seems like something that just needs to be gotten out of the way.
I'm going to go ahead and make a partial claim: I'm a "buffer" type role. I make another role in this game stronger. I, however, have an interesting little choice: I can hurt the role I normally buff to power myself up. I have other abilities besides, including a vote, which I am going to go ahead and leave on Carnage where FFP left it. I assume I don't have to revote personally to do it. Report Comment "Enjoy your screams, Sarpadia - they will soon be muffled beneath snow and ice."
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arioch wrote: Ahlyis wrote: ... but this Day will NEVER end anyway. Games without deadlines are pretty much doomed, especially big games. Too many inactives for a lynch majority to EVER be reached.
I agree. We can barely get 12 people to post, and with not everyone even having a vote, not sure how there is ever going to be a lynch.
I know this is contrary to usual theory, and I don't generally like doing it, but how would people feel about lynching a lurker to get the game moving? It certainly doesn't seem like there is going to be a majority vote on anyone for reasons of scuminess any time soon. I would only be up for voting a lurker if the choice was between that and not lynching at all.
seppel wrote: We only need 4 more people to vote JayDreven.
If you just want the game to move on at this point, go ahead and vote him.
Otherwise I'll continue disappearin' people until they're all gone! pdr_br wrote: But JD has been more helpful that the majority of the people so I prefer we lynch someone else. I agree. JD is one of the only ones giving this game a serious crack.
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EtR wrote:
JayDreven wrote:
Purphoros wrote: Given that about half of the players in this game are inactive, we'll never run up Ahylis or IsoSTARDUST.
I would rather use that time to scumhunt.
Those aren't mutually exclusive things. You can scumhunt while maintaining a vote on either of those. At some point we will have to seek other options, that's why we haven't solely been looking at ahl and ISO. Or at least some of us haven't.
On Venom, he's likely not scum. Scum is likely going to be Carnage's crew. And as much as he likes to say he's neutral, he also likes to point to mod posts, which at this time I'll point to the OP that specifically says Carnage has allies. My working theory is that Carnage is only invincible so long as they are alive. If we take them out, Carnage will be vulnerable.
Hence why I'm testing Ahl and not ISO.
This actually makes sense.
If it's making sense to you, then how come you're not voting Ahylis? I've been thinking that there probably is a specific order in which we need to lynch the scum and that's why it was so cavalierly claimed that Ahlyis and Iso can't be killed. If we were to test it now, i'm betting it would prove accurate. Was there a particular order that bad guys were killed or captured in the comic?
Purphoros wrote:
edeon wrote: Unvote, Vote: Seppel
Do you really think that a rechargable daykill is in the hands of scum? Why are you taking it a face value that it was a kill?
LordMark wrote: If that's true, then he broke the "no referencing rule". You're probably okay, though. You seem to be...nitpicky. Is that normal for you?
JayDreven wrote:
IsoSTARDUST wrote: Given that I can't quote my role PM...
ur dum
If you need to quote your role pm, then you aren't confirmed, you're just claimed. As I said.
If you need to quote your role pm, then you've only proven my point that just because Zinger says something doesn't mean we should take it at face value.
You're really good at proving my points. Also try again. He's trying to rile you up...Why are you giving in? And with the amount of taunting that Iso is doing, I have to believe he is unkillable. Otherwise, I'd expect someone to have shot him by now.
Resyx wrote: obviously I'm the great and powerful TK-421 pewpew
LordMark wrote: Over my head? Are you blind? What makes you think I bought that load of crap? Read what I said for once and maybe you'll understand why I said it. So angry...
Who are your top 2 scum candidates at the moment?
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I've been thinking that there probably is a specific order in which we need to lynch the scum and that's why it was so cavalierly claimed that Ahlyis and Iso can't be killed. If we were to test it now, i'm betting it would prove accurate. Was there a particular order that bad guys were killed or captured in the comic?
Why are you so concerned about finding an order about how to lynch the scum rather than... finding scum? EtR wrote:
Why are you taking it a face value that it was a kill?
Why are you asking this question? Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #497 Oct 16, 2013 23:52:19 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote:
edeon wrote:
Purphoros wrote: Edeon, would you think that scum would their blink/daykill in a more controlled fashion? (aka: not randomly removing one lurker from the game)
It was a scummy move, not something intelligent for a mafia to do, but scummy. What I think happened with him is that is perceived unkillabliity and a non-care for townies made him pull the trigger so easily. Also not because you're mafia you won't ever touch an inactive either disdain for the inactives or a flawed try to look town (emphasis on flawed)
Not intelligent =! scummy. As I said, it wasn't an intelligent thing to do but that doesn't stop it from being scummy. Seppel as I already said seems like he doesn't care for being lynched since he has whatever makes him (believe he is) unlynchable so just used his ability at the first oportunity he had. A townie move would have been to disscus target or at least check who else was inactive, not the one guy who had a promise of posting, which is better than nothing. Report Comment random stuff my colors if they weren't obvious enough TOP REPLY QUOTE #498 Oct 17, 2013 0:03:33 (Reply to #495)
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Block User Direct Message I wouldn't consider myself nitpicky, just wondering why people would willingly put themselves at risk. Secondy, I don't get angry very easily. You might misinterpret some of what I post as an offensive tone but I assure you it isn't anger. I'm actually enjoying this game, unlike some people. It's kind of sad that so many people are lurking or just not following the thread.
Now as for a read on possible scum, I don't really have any. A few people have caught my attention, but at this point I'm not sure of anyone. Originally I had thought that Resyx was scum, because it seemed to me that he was trying to get a superhero to claim early on day 1. Then, I speculated on the possibility that one or some of the claimed neutrals were actually mafia trying to conceal their true alignment just like a normal scumbag would. After a while I came to the conclusion that most of them were just lurking. Unwritten has only posted once or twice, same goes for Ragnarokio(who also claimed to be neutral). Take your pick, it's all fishy to me. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #499 Oct 17, 2013 0:09:04 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message I find it amusing that you lot seem to think iso was rilying me. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #500 Oct 17, 2013 0:31:09 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Pdr_Br wrote: But JD has been more helpful that the majority of the people so I prefer we lynch someone else.
but hez dum
Tevish_Szat wrote: So, yeah, I'm totally here now. That's a thing that exists.
Frankly, I think in the absence of a good lynch (as on d1) we should lynch Carnage if it has not already been tried. It seems like something that just needs to be gotten out of the way.
I'm going to go ahead and make a partial claim: I'm a "buffer" type role. I make another role in this game stronger. I, however, have an interesting little choice: I can hurt the role I normally buff to power myself up. I have other abilities besides, including a vote, which I am going to go ahead and leave on Carnage where FFP left it. I assume I don't have to revote personally to do it.
ur dum 2
JayDreven wrote: I find it amusing that you lot seem to think iso was rilying me.
ur stil dum
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hay guise how about we all do a mass win condition claim Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #501 Oct 17, 2013 1:14:36
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Block User Direct Message Coming from the guy I'm currently playing like a fiddle, I won't put too much stock in that. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #502 Oct 17, 2013 2:42:46 (Edited)
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Resyx wrote: As for Jay's hounding being bad, it's because it looks like he's trying to push a case that's based on nothing. If it weren't for the fact that Iso seems to lack an actual vote and also be somewhat unkillable for the time being, I'd say he's trying to get a mislynch. But as noted, I suspect it's just Jay not being used to Iso's "ur dum" phrasing. (I've seen it plenty of times in my working with him)
There are a couple fundamental flaws with your reasoning. First, I've theorized that Iso's immunity will stand until he's the last remaining threat. This requires a stance of lynching every other threat before anything is even attempted against Iso. Such to say, I'm not pushing a lynch Iso agenda. This is supported by the fact that I'm also currently not voting for Iso. Secondly, Iso isn't town. Even if we did lynch him, his lynch would only be a mislynch if it cost town the game at that very point. But going back to point one, if all the other threats are removed and the game is still going, it's not going to be a mislynch.
Question for you now, why are you so defensive of a player that's admitted to not being town?
Yeah, that's why I said that I don't think you're actually pushing a case. The only reason I gave you the FOS is that it was weird how you seemed to be hung up on something so minor.
Because Iso's my subordinate! Actually, I would love to see Iso dead, but for now, I'm accepting either your theory or that there is someone armed with some sonic cannons that will give us the ability to kill him. LordMark wrote: I don't see how TK-421 could be a character role in this, unless he's actually Luke Skywalker. I can't figure out what abilities he'd have but whatever. It's not. TK-421 is my username on MTGSalvation. I am, in fact, a character from the Spider-Man/Marvel universe. As an OOG note, Resyx was the name of a Sith lord in my Star Wars RPG campaign. You'll find that I tend to have one foot in SW and one foot in Marvel (and another foot in Magic) Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #503 Oct 17, 2013 2:51:03
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Block User Direct Message Whoa, random page added to game. Stupid worldwide webberverse cookies...
Yeah, we're not going to mass claim win conditions. Dumb suggestion is dumb.
As for no lynches, just no. That gives us NO INFO AND NO CHANCE AT HITTING MAFIA. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #504 Oct 17, 2013 2:52:58 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message I would like to draw attention to post # 311 in which Pdr says spiderman needs to claim 'because win conditions'.
Otherwise agree with Purphoros
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Block User Direct Message Unvote, vote Pdr-Br
I have no motivation to scumhunt until I can confirm that this game isn't a ridiculously broken joke. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #506 Oct 17, 2013 9:05:27 (Edited) Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message edeon wrote: As I said, it wasn't an intelligent thing to do but that doesn't stop it from being scummy. Seppel as I already said seems like he doesn't care for being lynched since he has whatever makes him (believe he is) unlynchable so just used his ability at the first oportunity he had. A townie move would have been to disscus target or at least check who else was inactive, not the one guy who had a promise of posting, which is better than nothing.
Tell me: what are the benefits of using the ability on a random lurker come from the mindset of
Town Mafia Self-Aligned
Expound upon your thoughts.
Resyx wrote: As for no lynches, just no. That gives us NO INFO AND NO CHANCE AT HITTING MAFIA.
You won't appreciate how I misread that statement. (read it again)
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Everyone should sheep me on the Pdr_Br wagon. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #507 Oct 17, 2013 12:07:52
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote: Tell me: what are the benefits of using the ability on a random lurker come from the mindset of
Town Mafia Self-Aligned
Expound upon your thoughts.
This all comes from a general sentiment from most players, hating on lurkers, if we had most players active a more educated guess would be available. So in the current scenario, why blink a random lurker? In all cases test the ability, the benefits of each alignment is quite simple:
Town: One body less is half a vote less for lynch, since lynch is the main weapon for the town... also may hit a lurker mafiate, in the case of day one, unless we have one mayor scummy player it has the same chance to hit mafia than a normal D1 lynch Mafia: Since mafia knows their kind a lurker hit won't hit one of them, but mafiates benefit from lurkers since they can control the discussion easier with less actives. The only normal reason for a mafiate to hit a lurker would be to look townie. Self-Aligned: Looking at the claimed selfs, the don't give a ##### about the game other than their own win cons. If a self wants to keep the town away from them they could use their ability on a town target.
Just to clarify if needed, my case on Seppel isn't about the hit but more about how it happenned. Report Comment random stuff my colors if they weren't obvious enough TOP REPLY QUOTE #508 Oct 17, 2013 13:37:24 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Sure I'll go with semi-ok Day 1 case on Pdr...I still agree with Tevish that we should test carnage sooner rather than later.
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote:
EtR wrote:
I've been thinking that there probably is a specific order in which we need to lynch the scum and that's why it was so cavalierly claimed that Ahlyis and Iso can't be killed. If we were to test it now, i'm betting it would prove accurate. Was there a particular order that bad guys were killed or captured in the comic?
Why are you so concerned about finding an order about how to lynch the scum rather than... finding scum?
EtR wrote:
Why are you taking it a face value that it was a kill?
Why are you asking this question?
I'm hunting scum. Why are you avoiding answering it? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #510 Oct 17, 2013 17:16:06 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message JayDreven wrote: Coming from the guy I'm currently playing like a fiddle, I won't put too much stock in that.
u cnt play mi, im not n instarurmeant n ur dum.
Resyx wrote: Yeah, we're not going to mass claim win conditions. Dumb suggestion is dumb.
But why? Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #511 Oct 17, 2013 18:19:52 (Edited)
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I lied before. I only have one wincon. And it is to survive until Carnage shows genuine remorse for the lives he has taken and vows to do everything in his power to help people in the future.
I'm about to win, right Iso? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #512 Oct 17, 2013 23:42:32 (Reply to #495)
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etr wrote: I've been thinking that there probably is a specific order in which we need to lynch the scum and that's why it was so cavalierly claimed that Ahlyis and Iso can't be killed. If we were to test it now, i'm betting it would prove accurate. Was there a particular order that bad guys were killed or captured in the comic? Surely that's too elaborate. I ****ing hope that's not the case.
burning_earth wrote: I would like to draw attention to post # 311 in which Pdr says spiderman needs to claim 'because win conditions'.
Otherwise agree with Purphoros
Vote Pdr_Br This is a pretty bad misrep. a) he said he "wanted" spiderman to claim b) it was in response to iso saying he wanted all the townies to claim c) he followed it up with "but I don't think we will get what we want", clearly showing he didn't actually expect spiderman to claim
here's the whole post: pdr_br wrote: IsoSTARDUST wrote: I still want all of the townies to claim.
I want spider-man to claim but I don't think we will get what we want And I agree with Resyx Spidey has failed us once again.
I don't like the case on pdr, I'd much rather...
vote: burning_earth Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #513 Oct 18, 2013 0:40:29 (Edited) (Reply to #512)
LordMark Joined Feb 2011 322 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message What's your case on B_E? Not saying he isn't squeeky clean, just wondering what exactly you're voting him for.
Also, your points about Pdr aren't really getting through to me. I mean even though he says he didn't expect anyone to claim(let alone Spiderman), he still admitted that he wanted a claim nevertheless. This tells me there's something specific about spidey that he wants out in the open. Either he's scum and he just doesn't like spiderman, or he has something in his role that specifically mentions spidey. Either way, it doesn't look so good. Same goes for Resyx, since he was the first to ask spidey to claim. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #514 Oct 18, 2013 1:35:25
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Block User Direct Message Clinic wrote:
etr wrote: I've been thinking that there probably is a specific order in which we need to lynch the scum and that's why it was so cavalierly claimed that Ahlyis and Iso can't be killed. If we were to test it now, i'm betting it would prove accurate. Was there a particular order that bad guys were killed or captured in the comic? Surely that's too elaborate. I ****ing hope that's not the case.
burning_earth wrote: I would like to draw attention to post # 311 in which Pdr says spiderman needs to claim 'because win conditions'.
Otherwise agree with Purphoros
Vote Pdr_Br This is a pretty bad misrep. a) he said he "wanted" spiderman to claim b) it was in response to iso saying he wanted all the townies to claim c) he followed it up with "but I don't think we will get what we want", clearly showing he didn't actually expect spiderman to claim
here's the whole post:
He did make a post the post two posts before that only said "because win conditons" in response to somene asking why should spiderman claim.
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Block User Direct Message LordMark wrote: What's your case on B_E? Not saying he isn't squeeky clean, just wondering what exactly you're voting him for.
Also, your points about Pdr aren't really getting through to me. I mean even though he says he didn't expect anyone to claim(let alone Spiderman), he still admitted that he wanted a claim nevertheless. This tells me there's something specific about spidey that he wants out in the open. Either he's scum and he just doesn't like spiderman, or he has something in his role that specifically mentions spidey. Either way, it doesn't look so good. Same goes for Resyx, since he was the first to ask spidey to claim.
This. Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote:
Resyx wrote: As for no lynches, just no. That gives us NO INFO AND NO CHANCE AT HITTING MAFIA.
You won't appreciate how I misread that statement. (read it again) I'm not getting it.I do get repetive "No"s that are now bugging me though. IsoSTARDUST wrote: Resyx wrote: Yeah, we're not going to mass claim win conditions. Dumb suggestion is dumb.
But why? Because I don't have to answer to you! That's what power does to a person! And we're certainly not going to have the town just say "Hey mafia, look at these! These are what we need to win, so if you cut them down, there's no way for us to win." The only way it benefits the town is if we're lucky and a mafiate goes first and botches a win condition. But that assume A) win conditions look the same, and B) we're lucky enough to get a mafiate to go first, and C) their secondary win condition isn't some kind of neutral one that could go both ways.
In other news, LordMark wrote: Either way, it doesn't look so good. Same goes for Resyx, since he was the first to ask spidey to claim. Resyx wrote: Where is Spider-Man when we need him?!
Even Venom will do! Resyx wrote: Anyway, even if Jameson isn't happy about it, I'm glad to see the wall crawler back. You'll note I'm not actually asking for a claim. Just looking for Spidey. Or Venom. I even made a reference to Toxin (the part where I said "Carnage doesn't need to be afraid of Spidey or Venom, but the cops...", because Toxin is Carnage's baby, but it bonded to a cop who used the symbiote for good). Then Spidey showed up in a mod scene, and I was happy. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #517 Oct 18, 2013 5:13:28
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@ lord mark and b_e: his role could just as easily be that he has to protect spiderman or something of the sort. And we don't even know if spiderman is town, scum, self aligned or who knows what. In this set up I wouldn't be all that surprised if Spiderman was a cult leader. Fact is he wasn't demanding a claim or trying to force one. Essentially he was giving us information about his role for free. Why would scum do that? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #518 Oct 18, 2013 5:16:36 (Edited)
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also @ lord mark: I think the misrep by b_e is the standout worst thing in the thread so far (by a non unlynchable player). That is why I'm voting b_e. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #519 Oct 18, 2013 5:33:46
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Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote: I lied before. I only have one wincon. And it is to survive until Carnage shows genuine remorse for the lives he has taken and vows to do everything in his power to help people in the future.
I'm about to win, right Iso?
Omg guys, so sorry about that. *Puts a band-aid on Shockwave*
All better, right?
@Resyx: Buuut you guys could lynch the people whose claims don't add up. :shrug: I think it's a win-win scenario for myself and for the town. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #520 Oct 18, 2013 8:45:52 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Edeon, I'll talk to you soon. Resyx wrote:
Purphoros wrote:
Resyx wrote: As for no lynches, just no. That gives us NO INFO AND NO CHANCE AT HITTING MAFIA.
You won't appreciate how I misread that statement. (read it again) I'm not getting it.I do get repetive "No"s that are now bugging me though. As for NO lynches, just no. (no lynches at all)
quote="EtR"] I'm hunting scum. Why are you avoiding answering it? [/quote]
Because it's pointless busywork that deserves not to be answered. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #521 Oct 18, 2013 11:59:09
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote:
EtR wrote: I'm hunting scum. Why are you avoiding answering it?
Because it's pointless busywork that deserves not to be answered. Wrong. You accepted that it was a kill without questioning it at all. The question of why did you accept it is valid and should be answered.
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Block User Direct Message You seem to be having trouble understanding that "just no" means "no" to "no lynches". That means he wants nobody to vote for no lynch. Sorry but I think you'd have to be really thick to miss that. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #523 Oct 18, 2013 13:31:40 (Edited)
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IsoSTARDUST wrote:
Ahlyis wrote: I lied before. I only have one wincon. And it is to survive until Carnage shows genuine remorse for the lives he has taken and vows to do everything in his power to help people in the future.
I'm about to win, right Iso?
Omg guys, so sorry about that. *Puts a band-aid on Shockwave*
All better, right? Hey Mod, I won, right? Can I leave the game now?
No? Aw man
P.S., to everyone else, about leaving the game... My role PM isn't clear, but I wouldn't be surprised if I do leave the game when/if I win. I don't have any alignment that I need to wait on and I definitely CAN win before the game ends. I might win "as" the game ends as well, but winning before then is certainly possible. If that happens, I would hope that the Mod would simply send me off with a win, out of the game at that point... But as I said, it's not stated either way in my role PM. So I just don't know.
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Block User Direct Message EtR what are you even harping on about Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #525 Oct 18, 2013 18:42:36 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Yes, good, good.
Now I get to say "lol" to you for putting your useless vote on me.
aka: I'm not jumping through hoops to comply with you. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #526 Oct 18, 2013 18:45:48 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message LordMark wrote: You seem to be having trouble understanding that "just no" means "no" to "no lynches". That means he wants nobody to vote for no lynch. Sorry but I think you'd have to be really thick to miss that.
I understood it but I was pointing how someone could miss it - it happened to me the first time I read it, and I thought "Huh?" and I had to read it again.
Just a minor semantics issue. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #527 Oct 18, 2013 19:03:18 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Armchair analysis on Ahylis.
My gut is saying that there's more to than what he appears. I do not believe that the mod, even in a bastard game, would put in a role that requires you to do nothing over the course of the game. I don't doubt that he's unkillable/unlynchable (maybe she's killable, but we can't test that). Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #528 Oct 18, 2013 20:00:52 (Edited)
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Purphoros wrote: Armchair analysis on Ahylis.
My gut is saying that there's more to than what he appears. I do not believe that the mod, even in a bastard game, would put in a role that requires you to do nothing over the course of the game. I don't doubt that he's unkillable/unlynchable (maybe she's killable, but we can't test that). Technically, I "could" do nothing the entire game and hope that my various wincons get met without any influence from me. I didn't lie about that part.
I also didn't lie when I said I have a freaking TON of various abilities, both Passive and Active.
What I wasn't very clear about is my expectation that I can use my abilities to help make my wincons more likely or maybe even to outright assist them in being met.
The problem I have though is: A) I can only use one Active ability per "phase" of the game. (Just like pretty much everyone else.) B) Some of the Active abilities can only be used during specific phases. C) I don't even know what some of the abilities do. Their description is... vague and potentially misleading, to say the least. This does appear to be intentional based on the wording of some other abilities. No, I won't clarify that any further. D) While I feel certain that some of the abilities need to be aimed at specific targets to be effective, I have no idea who those targets are... yet.
All in all, this seems to be a VERY complex role I've been given. It's probably easier for me to just sit back, do nothing, and hope things go the way I want/need them to. But where's the fun in that? There's just not much I can do at this point in the game. I've already used an Active ability this phase (and for the record, it basically "fizzled"), so now I have to wait for Dusk or Night to try to do something else.
In the meantime, I could scumhunt... but why should I care whether or not Scum gets lynched? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #529 Oct 19, 2013 0:34:51
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In the meantime, I could scumhunt... but why should I care whether or not Scum gets lynched?
Because it's more fun that way? Report Comment
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I'll come clean and say that I have been lurking for a day or so. It's because I find it hard to post something constructive and most of the points being rase I consider to be rather weak, but that's usually normal for the first day.
There are some small wagons on Jay, Pdr, B_E (unless I am mistaken) but I don't find any of them worth of my vote at the moment as most of the arguments against them are either not sufficient or based on metagaming and assumptions. I strongly believe that we should test Ahlyis but considering we can't get 50% + 1 on him, I find it impossible that we will get 100% on him. I do however believe that in this given scenario, this is the best course of action. Iso is not far this path and I am going to explain further down the pros and cons of choosing to test either of them.
Regarding lynching a lurker, I'd normally be up to that, considering we are aware of the difference between a lurker and an inactive. For example TU, Rag, JCP are more inactive than lurkers, as a lurker is a person that sticks around posting just as much as needed to avoid drawing attention from both the playing community and the mod. In this specific case however, I consider that we have 2 targets which do not have the town's best interest at heart and those lynches would be much more helpful to the town than lynching a lurker / inactive (unless we are really lucky)
And now I will post the reasons for still thinking that an Ahlyis (even Iso) lynch is worth more than doing anything else.
First of all, and this is the only solid argument, is that they are claimed not town which makes them a loose gun. As much as they want to claim neutral or anything they want, the fact that remains is that they are not town aligned. Neutral basically means self aligned, which is always a good lynch simply because they are not town aligned and there is no day better for testing such claims than day 1. The longer they live, the longer they can hurt us and I don't even want to think about what happens if they make it to LyLo.
Furthermore, I understand that they might be unlynchable, and in order to test that we need all the players voting for one of them, but we have not even gotten to half which would also provide some information which now we have no (or little) basis for believing. I see no reason for anybody to fully trust Ahlyis just because he says so.
A second argument against Ahlyis would be that he claimed after Iso did. It's not that uncommon for mafiates to piggyback on claims that are working. It's metagamey to be 100% that there can't be 2 self roles in a game this big, but it's working for Iso and I can see a mafiate trying the same stunt simply because it is working for Iso (and especially if they have some sort of lynch resistance)
A third argument can be brought against Iso, and this is metagaming at it's finest, but in each game there was such a character as open as his, that character was mafia. Zind had one, PK had one and I'm sorry that the only example I can remember since forever ago is Flavorful Trojan from Blast fom the Past. For the same reason I do believe that Iso does have a much more high chance of having a lynch resistent role (which is also another reason to go after Ahlyis first). And I know that this refutes argument 2 by itself, but argument 1 is more than enough to go after Ahly today.
This being said, I think it will be borderline impossible to reach a lynch majority today. There are too many inactives/ lurkers to reach any kind of majority (or at least that is how it looks). My advise to Zinger would be to deadline the day (even if it is against the rules) before even more people lose interest. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #533 Oct 19, 2013 11:21:22 (Edited) (Reply to #532)
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Block User Direct Message If you or anyone truly believes this, then there should be a strong argument towards lynching someone with a lower threshold. I'm pretty certain that we already know someone with a low threshold. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #534 Oct 19, 2013 11:32:50
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User I've seen a couple people complain about the lack of a time limit on the game. Murica, Ahlyis, JayDreven, to name a few. I have clearly stated in the rules that the Day will end when a lynch decision has been reached. If you don't like it, you could always make yourselves an easier target by claiming to be Mafia and having the Town vote you. I'm sure that will end the Day for you real quick.
Anyone who wants to rely on the mod to end the day because they are too lazy to tackle the daunting task of trying to motivate so many people to all vote a specific target are just as bad as the lurkers. What difference does it make if you have a hundred posts if you are being no more helpful than the people who have 2 posts at bringing the Day to an end?
But fine, if you REALLY want my help at bringing the Day to an end faster, I'll throw my vote in the pot.
Super-Awesome-Mod-Tripple-Vote: Murica.
There you go guys, just made someone easier to lynch. Why don't you all dog-pile your votes onto him?
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Block User Direct Message I haven't said anything about your desire to see your game fail. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #536 Oct 19, 2013 12:19:55
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Block User Direct Message Confirming replace. Hope my next life is longer. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #538 Oct 19, 2013 12:46:22 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote: stuff
Oh, I skimmed over the part where you implied that you had more abilities.
I guess that makes you marginally more relevant but still pressing buttons =! actually posting.
See, look.
"It's probably easier for me to just sit back, do nothing, and hope things go the way I want/need them to. But where's the fun in that? There's just not much I can do at this point in the game."
What do you mean by "at this point in the game"? Will you have more relevance later in the game?
The very fact that you have no incentive to post makes me doubt your claim. IsoSTARDUST is the other role we've seen and he has to post at least once every 24 hours with some roleplay stuff + a very specific goal. You don't have any of that - I have a hard time believing a mod would give you a role that would provide incentive to lurk. You're like a unlynchable survivor.
Murica wrote: stuff
"fencesit to the infinite and let's lynch an unlynchable player"
There you go guys, just made someone easier to lynch. Why don't you all dog-pile your votes onto him?
I am tempted to do this but I have to reread Murica's posts. You should provide a triple-vote onto Pdr_Br for lurking!
Zinger2099 wrote: Through unknown magical means or perhaps the miracle of modern science (some might even dare to call it divine intervention) Shockwave07 is resurected and swaps bodies with The_Unwritten! Then, perhaps from shock (or, more divine intervention), The_Unwritten promptly dies. The_Unwritten is now dead, posthumously killed with fire by CARNAGE, he was the Self-Aligned Missing girl (now there's a shocker). Shockwave07 is back alive, with a new role.
Carry on with the game.
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So yeah... carnage? If you are lynchproof, what reason exactly do you have to fight against a test lynch? And if you're not lynchproof, why shouldn't we lynch you? I'd like a more detailed response than "ur dum too", because I think we've got real grounds here to attempt it at least once. Report Comment "Enjoy your screams, Sarpadia - they will soon be muffled beneath snow and ice."
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Block User Direct Message Tevish_Szat wrote: So yeah... carnage? If you are lynchproof, what reason exactly do you have to fight against a test lynch? And if you're not lynchproof, why shouldn't we lynch you? I'd like a more detailed response than "ur dum too", because I think we've got real grounds here to attempt it at least once.
Because it's a waste of time at this point?
If you think you can rally the support, go ahead. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #541 Oct 19, 2013 15:11:16
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Block User Direct Message Hey Purphoros, what makes you think you know my post restriction? Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #542 Oct 19, 2013 15:48:20 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message IsoSTARDUST wrote: Also, I'm required to roleplay part of my role, so I will be doing that at some point in time. IsoSTARDUST wrote: This is the most ridiculous role I've ever had. Also, I'm required to post at least once every 24 hours, though Zinger will give me some lenience if I'm unable to for some reason.
You stated it yourself. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #543 Oct 19, 2013 16:19:05
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Block User Direct Message Zinger2099 wrote: Through unknown magical means or perhaps the miracle of modern science (some might even dare to call it divine intervention) Shockwave07 is resurected and swaps bodies with The_Unwritten! Then, perhaps from shock (or, more divine intervention), The_Unwritten promptly dies. The_Unwritten is now dead, posthumously killed with fire by CARNAGE, he was the Self-Aligned Missing girl (now there's a shocker). Shockwave07 is back alive, with a new role.
Carry on with the game. Can we know if this is a fancy replacement or a weird ability? Report Comment random stuff my colors if they weren't obvious enough TOP REPLY QUOTE #544 Oct 20, 2013 1:01:28 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message I would say, but I feel the risk of drawing the crosshairs of a mob sniper (mod kill) on answering that question. Must say straight out that I enjoy the flavor of how he deals with prods and such.
But my old body is not coming back it seems... *adjusts the bandages on the burn marks to hide them better.*
But will give some quick reads on a few players. Still need to build a full case on all players though.
Town reads:
LordMark, trying to get questions going and drawing the first day kill from Carnage.
Zokorad: reads town, but that ability claim... I'm new to the game and that move was obvious dumb!!! Get your head in the game!
Purphoros: Reads town to me. Calling out Ahlyis and his notes on Carnage.
Neutral/Scum Reads:
Ahlyis: can be scum or neutral, but the fact that Ahlyis jumped on Zoko's claim to take the one-shot ability. One possibility is that a goal involves becoming the target of X abilities...
will work up more. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #545 Oct 20, 2013 2:52:17 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Oh derf, my bad, Purphoros. :facepalm:
So yeah, I can't be lynched or killed, I have a Daykill, and I need to kill Venom, so unless they want to step forward, I'm probably going to be active lurking until Venom dies, then I might help you guys out since I don't care where my Daykill goes after that.
In case I haven't already said that. I don't actually remember.
Still think we should have a mass alignment/win-con claim. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #546 Oct 20, 2013 4:41:31 (Edited) tmich Joined May 2012 1037 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @lord:My character is called marty ber and is just a citizen, I understood that we were all character from the comic continuity?
Here in italy we have a ballet from the late eighteen century that is titled excelsior, and my brother sayd that word a lot when we were both much younger, not sure about why he did, but I did heard excelsior a lot. Sorry, I was without my computer for this week and my role makes posting with a phone difficult.
@purphoros:I assume the three you haven't mentioned are still likely scum for you?
On Pbr:I need to read his posts again, I don't remember him being too scummy, virtual vote on clinic because all his posts looked fake to me and,if I remember correctly his posts on the pbr wagon was weird.
@freddeh: anything worthwhile to say?
I will make a longer post to "catch up" with the thread tomorrow or later today.
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@ edeon: I'm pretty sure its a replacement not a weird ability, lol.
btw do you have any reads bro? I can't remember any off the top of my head. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #548 Oct 20, 2013 10:24:02
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Block User Direct Message Why did I get an Angry Mob Vote, how did that work? Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #550 Oct 20, 2013 12:18:22 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message I think the mod is flavor gaming us. This came not to long after I yelled at you to get your head in the game. Be glad it isn't a super-awesome-mod-triple vote! Plus can be a bit of a prod as well. You haven't exactly been that active lately. So notes: 1) Be active. Laziness in time of Carnage (I so want to red that!) equals pissed of mob. Not a good place for any player to be. 2) Don't tick off the mod. He loves cruel and unusual punishment. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #551 Oct 20, 2013 12:46:02
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Shockwave07 wrote: I think the mod is flavor gaming us. This came not to long after I yelled at you to get your head in the game. Be glad it isn't a super-awesome-mod-triple vote! Plus can be a bit of a prod as well. You haven't exactly been that active lately. So notes: 1) Be active. Laziness in time of Carnage (I so want to red that!) equals pissed of mob. Not a good place for any player to be. 2) Don't tick off the mod. He loves cruel and unusual punishment. Angry mob votes are not given out as a form of punishment for lack of activity or breaking the rules (or anything).
I have my super-awesome-tripple-mod-vote for that purpose. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message You know it probably is a good thing the world's greatest tunneler J. Jonah Jameson isn't a player in this. He's be terrible. ...And watch, I get written up about it tomorrow. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #553 Oct 20, 2013 16:40:18 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message I walk up to a small child and kill them so hard they die to death. I punt a baby into a minefield. The baby explodes. I eviscerate the pope, then hang him by his entrails. I walk into a shooting range, rent one of the guns, and shoot the three guys behind the counter.
Bodycount: 56 Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #554 Oct 20, 2013 17:14:41
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Block User Direct Message So Angry Mob Votes are a game mechanic given out randomly. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #555 Oct 20, 2013 23:21:32 (Edited) Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message IsoSTARDUST wrote: Still think we should have a mass alignment/win-con claim.
I would actually like this because this game is insane but it's never going to happen with the # of lurkers going around.
tmich wrote: @purphoros:I assume the three you haven't mentioned are still likely scum for you?
Probably yes, still need to reread them.
Zokorad wrote: Why did I get an Angry Mob Vote, how did that work?
You suddenly snap-appeared when a vote was placed on you.
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Block User Direct Message These are the people I consider town: Purphoros has been very constructive and comes across as town to me Same with Lord_Mark And obviously I say I'm town.
And the people I think are scum: Pdr for reasons I and purphoros have said Clinic i think is leaning scum, but I'm not sure, will do more comprehensive posting on both of these later And Ahlys I think could be scum, for reasons said before. Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message IsoSTARDUST wrote:
Ahlyis wrote: I lied before. I only have one wincon. And it is to survive until Carnage shows genuine remorse for the lives he has taken and vows to do everything in his power to help people in the future.
I'm about to win, right Iso?
Omg guys, so sorry about that. *Puts a band-aid on Shockwave*
All better, right?
@Resyx: Buuut you guys could lynch the people whose claims don't add up. :shrug: I think it's a win-win scenario for myself and for the town. Wow, you actually revived Shockwave through the miracle of science or magic or something!
Yeeeeah, but see, here's the problem. You're Carnage. I don't trust you further than I can throw a car. And I can't throw cars. Purphoros wrote:
Resyx wrote:
Purphoros wrote:
Resyx wrote: As for no lynches, just no. That gives us NO INFO AND NO CHANCE AT HITTING MAFIA.
You won't appreciate how I misread that statement. (read it again) I'm not getting it.I do get repetive "No"s that are now bugging me though.
As for NO lynches, just no. (no lynches at all)
Oh. I can see how it'd be read as that. Yeah, I'm a firm believer in boosting chances, and every lynch boosts town's chances.
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Block User Direct Message Resyx wrote:
IsoSTARDUST wrote:
Ahlyis wrote: I lied before. I only have one wincon. And it is to survive until Carnage shows genuine remorse for the lives he has taken and vows to do everything in his power to help people in the future.
I'm about to win, right Iso?
Omg guys, so sorry about that. *Puts a band-aid on Shockwave*
All better, right?
@Resyx: Buuut you guys could lynch the people whose claims don't add up. :shrug: I think it's a win-win scenario for myself and for the town.
Wow, you actually revived Shockwave through the miracle of science or magic or something!
Yeeeeah, but see, here's the problem. You're Carnage. I don't trust you further than I can throw a car. And I can't throw cars.
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Since it's going to be hard to lynch seppel, should we test Ahlyis or Iso's unlichabke status?
Or should we take avantage of the angry mob vote and lynch Zokorad?
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Could you reiterate the case against Zokorad, please? Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #561 Oct 21, 2013 4:34:04 (Edited)
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Pdr_Br wrote: I don't think there is a case against Zokorad just that the Angry Mob voted him.
So why lynch him then? Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #563 Oct 21, 2013 5:26:31 (Edited)
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Murica wrote:
Pdr_Br wrote: I don't think there is a case against Zokorad just that the Angry Mob voted him.
So why lynch him then?
Well because we need to lynch someone and he already has a vote on him. And since your question made me look at his posts I noticed that after he used his ability he became a lurker. But other than that I didn't found anything suspicious on him. It seems that this neverending day is making me lynch someone so that the game can move along and we get something more that unlynchable people popping around. And I'm starting to genuily hate unlynchable roles.
Another person I noticed to be lurking, almost inactive in this game is Freddeh. This is odd IMO because when I used to play here he was normally one of the most active players in the game.
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Block User Direct Message @Pdr: Zokorad only has the angry mob vote, whereas others have more votes AND an angry mob vote. Your argument is unfounded and kind of scummy. You should only put your vote somewhere useful. The only reason I've seen for voting Zokorad is his possible lurking, but there isn't proof that he's been lurking often enough to be scum. Right now, you currently have the most votes on you even without an angry mob vote. If I were you I'd be concerned about that(especially because you could get an angry mob vote). Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #567 Oct 21, 2013 11:15:08 (Edited) (Reply to #566)
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You did notice that my last post basically said that I had no reason to vote for him except lurking. And I never voted for him because I wasn't sure of my reasoning.
As for the case on me Burning Earth did a good rebutal but I will also give my opinion on it.
"Purphoros said:
Case on Pdr_Br - He says "So we have carnage and bunch of other people here with interesting abilities.". It's so passive. It's like he doesn't want to take a part in the action. - He begins to talk about Spider-Man and does stupid role-play speculation. How is this relevant to finding the scum? It's all useless. - He says "And what about you Murica, are you unkillable?". This is role fishing. - I never remember him actually scumhunting - he's never posted any thoughts on any player, from what I can recall, and his recent votes on Seppel are just useless lynchproof testing. Lynch him."
Point 1) You can intepert it as you want but I like to put my opinions in my posts even if they aren't game related, in this case I'm saying that there are some roles with interesting abilities.
Point 2) By now everyone who has read the game thread knows that I need spider man for one of my win conditions. Well somebody could have a responded to my post with a slip, especially Spider man but that didn't happen. Also how can we say that spider man is a town role? Nothing indicates that spidey is town and it wouldn't be the first time we have a good character become scum in a Mafia game.
Point 3) I honestly didn't expect him to answer. Actually how did you miss the fact that it was he who asked me in the first places if I was unkillable? It was just some posts before that one; why am I the one accused of fishing and not him? Because I answered and him not?
Point 4) That is true I haven't done any scumhunting today, but I can say that I personally disliked seppel's attitude so I wanted to test his claim as well as the others so called unlynchable claims (Ahlyis and Iso). I think JD is town so I'm against his lynch. As for the majoraty of players I don't have a read on them, only a suspicion on Freddeh for his lurking but that is metagaming none the less).
So Purphoros can you explain me your reasoning concerning point 2 of your case? Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #568 Oct 21, 2013 11:17:02
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EBWOP: Only scum should be concerned by having votes on them. Town can't be scared of being voted if it makes the game move forward. Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #569 Oct 21, 2013 13:16:54
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IsoSTARDUST wrote: Hey Ahylis, did you try to kill Seppel? If so, why? I did not.
None of my abilities are killing abilities as far as I can tell.
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Zinger2099 wrote: Day will end when a lynch decision has been reached. If you don't like it, you could always make yourselves an easier target by claiming to be Mafia and having the Town vote you. I'm sure that will end the Day for you real quick. I'm game...
I am Mafia. LYNCH ME!
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Zinger2099 wrote: Day phases will have NO TIME LIMIT. Day ends when a decision on a Lynch has been reached. Complaining about this rule will anger the Mod!
Don't make me quote this rule again. JayDreven wrote: I haven't said anything about your desire to see your game fail. Seconded...
Oh wait, I did say something about that didn't I?
Meh, whatever. I still second the implications. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #571 Oct 21, 2013 13:30:26
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Purphoros wrote: Oh, I skimmed over the part where you implied that you had more abilities. Implied? I pretty much outright claimed it.
Purphoros wrote: What do you mean by "at this point in the game"? Will you have more relevance later in the game? Why do you seem to think I care whether or not I am relevant to everyone else? I've already said startight up that I don't give a crap who does or doesn't win. What YOU think about me really has no meaning to me. I DON'T CARE what you think about me.
Purphoros wrote: The very fact that you have no incentive to post makes me doubt your claim. Good for you. I hope it makes you feel better in some way. But I still don't care. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #572 Oct 21, 2013 13:31:57 (Edited)
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EBWOP: "Startight"? How the heck did I mangle "straight" so badly? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #573 Oct 21, 2013 13:42:47 (Edited)
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Pdr_Br wrote: Point 3) I honestly didn't expect him to answer. Actually how did you miss the fact that it was he who asked me in the first places if I was unkillable? It was just some posts before that one; why am I the one accused of fishing and not him? Because I answered and him not?
That point is indeed a double standard if you see it as fishing. I for one don't and I noticed it as such the moment it was addressed and I have it noted down as an attempt to draw at some straws. The same way I have noted down your double standard on the Angry Mob vote. I don't think we can even call it a double standard since I have 3 votes on myself and votes on Jay count double. By this logic Jay needs only 5 votes to reach 12 and I need 9 (probably). I can let this pass seeing how you probably didn't check a votecount, but it's still worth noting it down. To sum up, I find it a bit scummy but not worth making a big case out of it right now.
Let's do a little experiment. Can everyone write down who their 3 most likely to be scum (mafia) are and why? It might prove to be an useful exercise. Of course, you can write more or less (even zero if no one pings your radar) but I want you to mention it. To those questioning why, let's call it an attempt to force the lurkers to actually connect themselves to other players instead of sitting in the shadows and do nothing. It doesn't even have to be extensive. Of course, I will go first
1. Ahlyis - for reasons already mentioned in my previous long post I do believe that Ahlyis is a good candidate to lie and be mafia aligned (timing and method of the claim seems to me like riding aboard the Iso claim)
2. Iso - despite his claims to be neutral I am very confident that at least one of the 2 (Ahlyis,Iso) is not neutral, but mafia aligned. Also worth bringing up is the metagamey argument that in the history of Px2 those kind of roles were mafia or mafia controlled instead of neutral or self.
For both of them it must be added that they didn't get a lot of votes on themselves with antagonistic claims. Usually town and self get voted much easier than mafia do (because there are 3-4-5 extra players that are not helping directly or indirectly)
3.Clinic - though a very sensible read I think that Clinic might be scum. He was never very active from what I can remember but he usually is more involved. Whereas, in this game he seems to avoid getting caught up in anything. There is also the connection with edeon from a few posts back where, it seems to me, he is trying to rub towniness off edeon. It's tru that they know each other for a very long time, since they are from pretty much the same Px2 era but I can't help seing it otherwise. Not as confident, more gut. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #574 Oct 21, 2013 13:43:33 (Edited)
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tmich wrote: @lord:My character is called marty ber and is just a citizen, I understood that we were all character from the comic continuity? Huh. This sounds like a vanilla claim, and given there are no vanillas in this game, I would vote for you if A) I had a Vote and B) I cared about lynching Scum. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #575 Oct 21, 2013 13:45:33 (Edited)
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Ahlyis wrote:
tmich wrote: @lord:My character is called marty ber and is just a citizen, I understood that we were all character from the comic continuity? Huh. This sounds like a vanilla claim, and given there are no vanillas in this game, I would vote for you if A) I had a Vote and B) I cared about lynching Scum.
For someone that doesn't care as much as you don't care, you may have just raised the biggest point of the day (also known as scumhunting) Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #576 Oct 21, 2013 13:51:22
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Pdr_Br wrote: EBWOP: Only scum should be concerned by having votes on them. Town can't be scared of being voted if it makes the game move forward. Um, wow.
If I had 2 votes... and I cared about lynching Scum... you'd get the second vote! Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #577 Oct 21, 2013 13:56:19
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Murica wrote: 1. Ahlyis - for reasons already mentioned in my previous long post I do believe that Ahlyis is a good candidate to lie and be mafia aligned (timing and method of the claim seems to me like riding aboard the Iso claim) That would be a neat trick.
How do you think I got past the Mod OUTRIGHT STATING that I was not the evil that Zokorad was looking for?
I suppose Zokorad could also be lying and his ability wasn't actually looking for Mafia, but some other kind of evil. Hey, I have a nice bridge for sale. Interested? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #578 Oct 21, 2013 14:15:07 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message I took tmich's claim to be that he wasn't a superhero or supervillian character. This doesn't translate to vanilla. JJJ would fall under this category, but his contacts and money could supplement abilities for him. @murica, will answer your challenge when I'm not mobile later today. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #579 Oct 21, 2013 15:00:17
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Block User Direct Message Murica wrote: Let's do a little experiment. Can everyone write down who their 3 most likely to be scum (mafia) are and why? It might prove to be an useful exercise. Of course, you can write more or less (even zero if no one pings your radar) but I want you to mention it. To those questioning why, let's call it an attempt to force the lurkers to actually connect themselves to other players instead of sitting in the shadows and do nothing. It doesn't even have to be extensive. Of course, I will go first
1. Ahlyis - It's probably unlikely he is mafia due to Zoko's ability missing, but the mod confirmed he is evil. I don't like the way the entire scenario played out with Zoko's ability however, and him being confirmed evil, and making a decidedly anti-town decision in wasting Zoko's ability makes him scummy to me. He even suggested we try to run up the lynch on him so we can at least get confirmation that he is currently unlynchable. If we don't do it, there are probably going to be people voting for him all day, and with the low activity, they are wasted votes. How about everyone sucks it up and if you have a vote, place it on Ahl so we can clear the air and then bandwagon on someone else? I will be able to vote Ahl when he gets to 11.
2. Lurkers - I honestly don't have a scum read on anyone, and taking wild guesses isn't really my game so I'm not going to call someone out right now for the sake of making a list. I would be up for offing a lurker so we can get some night actions going and actually have something to talk about tomorrow that isn't pure speculation.
Right now this game is boring and while I read the posts, I always feel like I have nothing to say/add. Speculation is a lot easier when we have some night actions and claims that we can actually discuss. I don't see how we are ever going to get 12+ people to agree that someone is scummy, and I don't foresee this day ending at it's current pace until someone gathers like 8 angry mob votes. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #580 Oct 21, 2013 15:01:21 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote: Murica wrote: 1. Ahlyis - for reasons already mentioned in my previous long post I do believe that Ahlyis is a good candidate to lie and be mafia aligned (timing and method of the claim seems to me like riding aboard the Iso claim) That would be a neat trick.
How do you think I got past the Mod OUTRIGHT STATING that I was not the evil that Zokorad was looking for?
I suppose Zokorad could also be lying and his ability wasn't actually looking for Mafia, but some other kind of evil. Hey, I have a nice bridge for sale. Interested?
It IS a bastard game.
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So, I think the Angry Mob that I appear to have incited is a means of creating a quasi-deadline - which I'm okay with. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #581 Oct 21, 2013 15:04:33 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message JayDreven wrote: I took tmich's claim to be that he wasn't a superhero or supervillian character. This doesn't translate to vanilla. JJJ would fall under this category, but his contacts and money could supplement abilities for him. @murica, will answer your challenge when I'm not mobile later today. tmich has soft-claimed (and Zinger pretty much confirmed it) to be a supporting Fantastic Four character. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #582 Oct 21, 2013 15:34:29 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Sounds like a plan to me with the Ahlyis vote. Vote: Ahlyis Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #583 Oct 21, 2013 17:37:28 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Arioch22 wrote: tmich has soft-claimed (and Zinger pretty much confirmed it) to be a supporting Fantastic Four character.
Which doesn't necessitate him to be vanilla, thus my point.
To answer Murica. I'd agree with you that one of Ahl and Iso is likely to be less than nuetral. I would lean toward Iso there. So first of three...
1. Iso - As I've previously theorized, Iso is likely aligned in some way with the mafia. This would be supported first by the flavor of the game and second by the OP. Iso would have you believe otherwise, but he can provide no evidence to the contrary short of claiming to not be able to quote his role pm and thus not be able to prove otherwise. Which is very convienent for a scum Iso. Note that I say aligned in some way. I do not think Iso's actual alignment is mafia, but could see a self aligned Carnage of some sort with the mafia being aligned to Carnage himself.
Ahl, I would say, is probably more likely to be the truly neutral one here.
2. Seppel - Seppel is pretty much running the game plan that Murica laid out. He did nothing for half the day, then long after Iso and Ahl were getting away with the "I'm unlynchable, test me out" mantra, he drops it himself. In red no less. Talk about a copy cat. Mind you Zinger doesn't bat an eye at Seppel using red, meaning his role is tied to whatever significance red has for carnage. Add to the mix that he's blindly following Carnage, which can be of no good to the town.
3. Purphoros - I don't get a very townly vibe from him. His list is a bit of a wash in itself. 453 strikes me as extreme buddying as he jumpes on "people" for arguing with Iso than immediately says nobody has a reason to vote me. This is suspect because I am the "people" that was arguing with Iso. I feel he goes out of his way to generalize so as not to implicate me further. He has been dodgey with EtR and is/was trying to rile a rather poor wagon on Pdr.
4. Fred - One thing strikes me here. His being okay with the Pdr lynch. Anybody that has any experience with Pdr should know Pdr is an active lurker. He always has been. It's not anything new, nor is it telling of his alignment. So to say somebody throwing a lurker case at Pdr is a semi good day 1 case when meta knows better just sends up flags.
On the subject of test votes, I might need to remind everybody that voting doesn't function as normal here. Some of us vote normally. Some of us have only one vote for the day. Some of us don't have the ability to vote. These are things that need to be kept in mind when considering why test wagons aren't picking up the speed they should. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #584 Oct 21, 2013 17:58:26 (Edited)
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JayDreven wrote: Ahl, I would say, is probably more likely to be the truly neutral one here. Depends on what you mean I suppose. I do note that you say "Neutral" and not "Self" though, and that is a good distinction.
I am Neutral in that I don't favor Town or Mafia and don't actually even care which side wins.
I am Self in concept, but not on a technical level. Technically, I have no alignment at all. Well, super technically, I have no alignment "that I know of". My role PM doesn't list an alignment for me, but that could be part of hidden information. No idea why the Mod would do that, but it is a possibility. Doesn't really change anything either way though. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #585 Oct 21, 2013 18:04:40
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JayDreven wrote: Ahl, I would say, is probably more likely to be the truly neutral one here. Depends on what you mean I suppose. I do note that you say "Neutral" and not "Self" though, and that is a good distinction.
I am Neutral in that I don't favor Town or Mafia and don't actually even care which side wins.
I am Self in concept, but not on a technical level. Technically, I have no alignment at all. Well, super technically, I have no alignment "that I know of". My role PM doesn't list an alignment for me, but that could be part of hidden information. No idea why the Mod would do that, but it is a possibility. Doesn't really change anything either way though. I was thinking about this, and was wondering if it's possible that your aligment is tied to certain events in the game. Especially if you have certain things that need to happen and you hint at multiple of those, I could see it matter which happen to determine your alignment and wincon. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #586 Oct 21, 2013 18:15:39
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Arioch22 wrote: I was thinking about this, and was wondering if it's possible that your aligment is tied to certain events in the game. Especially if you have certain things that need to happen and you hint at multiple of those, I could see it matter which happen to determine your alignment and wincon. I was kind of thinking something similar.
My wincons aren't affected though. Those I DO know, even if I don't have a clear understanding of all of them. I doubt there are any hidden/mutable wincons. My alignment though is a different story...
***Note, the following is all pure speculation on my part and not based on any evidence beyond what I've already claimed***
My alignment is hidden because there are multiple possibilities, depending on how/why it gets revealed.
If I get myself modkilled before I fulfill enough of my wincons, then my death post will list one thing for my alignment.
If I meet enough of my wincons, my leave the game post (assuming I do leave at that point) will reveal something else for my alignment.
This would probably also occur if I don't leave the game after winning, but manage to get myself modkilled AFTER meeting sufficient wincons. Though, if I don't leave the game, but do get myself modkilled, who knows what the Mod will do. Then again, this is exactly why I suspect I'll simply leave the game with a win if I meet enough wincons.
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Sorry for being absent. A couple of reasons for it:
1) New job started while still working my last two weeks at another job. This means I'm currently working three jobs until the end of this week.
2) No access to my laptop for the past week due to my fiance needing it to complete student teaching paperwork and lesson plans.
3) Got behind on running my own game, which takes priority over this (no offense Zinger).
5) I've been having trouble getting into this game, though I don't blame Zinger or anyone in particular. It's primarily the forums.
6) I forgot how to count and may have left out a number...
I'll try to get caught up but I make no promises on making a decent post until after the weekend when I go back to two jobs. Apologies ahead of time. Report Comment Allons-y! TOP REPLY QUOTE #588 Oct 22, 2013 1:13:41
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Block User Direct Message I like how Jay's sole reasons for suspecting Seppel and Purph boil down to "because Iso claimed Neutral but totally isn't a Neutral except maybe he is but not guise srsly believe me" Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #589 Oct 22, 2013 1:25:33 (Reply to #556)
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burning_earth wrote: Clinic i think is leaning scum, but I'm not sure, will do more comprehensive posting on both of these later Let me save you some time: "I think clinic is scum because he's voting me"
murica wrote: 3.Clinic - though a very sensible read I think that Clinic might be scum. He was never very active from what I can remember but he usually is more involved. Whereas, in this game he seems to avoid getting caught up in anything. There is also the connection with edeon from a few posts back where, it seems to me, he is trying to rub towniness off edeon. It's tru that they know each other for a very long time, since they are from pretty much the same Px2 era but I can't help seing it otherwise. Not as confident, more gut. Honestly I'm trying to be more involved but theres a lot of crazy **** going on in this game and its hard to sort of work through that. Particularly the unlynchables. They're particularly annoying as they are the standout people I'd prefer to lynch.
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IsoSTARDUST wrote: I like how Jay's sole reasons for suspecting Seppel and Purph boil down to "because Iso claimed Neutral but totally isn't a Neutral except maybe he is but not guise srsly believe me"
The case against Seppel is much more. I can hardly believed I missed it and that I am singling out Ahlyis, when Seppel did the exact same thing. Not sure about the red thing though Jay, at least not yet. But I agree with the rest of the case on Seppel upon a second read of his posts. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #591 Oct 22, 2013 2:39:25
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Clinic wrote: Honestly I'm trying to be more involved but theres a lot of crazy **** going on in this game and its hard to sort of work through that. Particularly the unlynchables. They're particularly annoying as they are the standout people I'd prefer to lynch.
It's a good point, but still just an excuse. I find myself in the same situation, and I don't apreciate it much either, but I don't plan on letting it stop me. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #592 Oct 22, 2013 2:46:40
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Arioch22 said pretty much what I was thinking when I read Ahlyis' post. If what Ahl is saying is true, than it is possible that at a specific time he can turn into any alignment, including scum or self.
Ahl, I would like an honest question from you. In the given circumstance, and considering you could reach 12 votes, as town, would you vote someone claiming the way you did it and playing like you are?
Also Ahl has a good point that I missed, and that is the ability wasted on him which makes me want to rethink the whole situation. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #593 Oct 22, 2013 3:19:23
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Block User Direct Message Clinic wrote:
Let me save you some time: "I think clinic is scum because he's voting me"
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I think clinic is scum for the same reasons posted in the very post you quote below mine. Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message Also the only reason clinic gives for voting me is that I misrepresented Pdr by directly quoting his post. So yeah, that too I guess. Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message Well played Iso... You've won this battle.
Right now, my top 3 mafia picks would be Ragnarokio, Freddeh and Zokorad. I dislike lurkers, however, I'm usually against lynching them till later. Right now, most players (besides the currently claimed neutrals) look town to me.
The active player who most pings me most is Clinic, for coming to Pdr's defense. Pdr can answer for cases against him, and if he can't then he needs to swing. By coming to Clinic's defense, he could have denied us valuable information on Pdr. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #596 Oct 22, 2013 3:37:13 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Nath'd by B_E while my computer crashed. Lame! Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #597 Oct 22, 2013 4:04:40 (Edited)
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Burning_Earth wrote:
Clinic wrote:
Let me save you some time: "I think clinic is scum because he's voting me"
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I think clinic is scum for the same reasons posted in the very post you quote below mine.
So you think Clinic is scum because of my gut? That's a bit under the belt Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #598 Oct 22, 2013 4:52:54
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HOT WHEELS LEADIN' THE WAY. :jam: Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #599 Oct 22, 2013 8:28:23 tmich Joined May 2012 1037 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @arioch,JD:I'm mostly know by my nickname even in-universe(and even so I'm really obscure), I had to write it on google to find information about my character and my real name.
I can't actually find the page about my character digiting my real name(I found it on a Comic book page), that's why I claimed .
Zoko's role makes much more sense if he can turn a SK-cult member-survivor into town aligned, because mafia turned town just outs the scum team.
Ahlhis claim is the same role he had in twilight mafia.
Even if he is telling the thruth the day will not end.
More votes on him please.
Some of the last attacks were really bad, there is probably scum bussing somewhere.
Freddeh has started to post a lot less lately for what i remember, starting from Boss Battle Mafia (were he was town). Still he has not said anything useful, unless I'm forgetting something, he can die too, his posts are a case on him even without commentary.
@B_E make a full,long case on clinic please.
@purphoros:name on MS?
@clinic: I have stated multiple times that I think that you are scum. What do you think about that?
@resyx:why zoko over a lurker that didn't show what is probably a modconfirmed ability to "smite evil"?
This forum layout is sapping my will to look back at the old posts.
Keeping my FoS on clinic until I read this thread again. Let's see if I can manage to at least make a goodish post full of content each day.
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Block User Direct Message tmich wrote: Zoko's role makes much more sense if he can turn a SK-cult member-survivor into town aligned, because mafia turned town just outs the scum team. That's a good point. It is very possible Ahl is scum and Zoko misintrepreted his ability or it's bastardized and actually converts cult, or some other anti-town alignment.
tmich wrote: Ahlhis claim is the same role he had in twilight mafia.
Even if he is telling the thruth the day will not end.
More votes on him please. Yeah, this.
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Clinic wrote: Honestly I'm trying to be more involved but theres a lot of crazy **** going on in this game and its hard to sort of work through that. Particularly the unlynchables. They're particularly annoying as they are the standout people I'd prefer to lynch.
It's a good point, but still just an excuse. I find myself in the same situation, and I don't apreciate it much either, but I don't plan on letting it stop me. And this. All the more reason to test the claimed unlynchables, it's a bastard game and it's possible they are actually lynchable or at least will lose power on a failed lynch. Why is everyone so content in letting the unlynchables go without testing any of them and taking their word in a bastard game where they don't even know if their claims are necessarily the whole truth? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #601 Oct 22, 2013 12:46:01
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Murica wrote: If what Ahl is saying is true, than it is possible that at a specific time he can turn into any alignment, including scum or self. I suppose it is possible. I don't personally think it is at all likely, but I don't have access to the whole design file.
I think having me become Mafia at some later point isn't feasible though. Unkillable Mafia is generally game breaking, wouldn't you agree?
Murica wrote: Ahl, I would like an honest question from you. Any particular topic you would like me to ask an honest question about?
Murica wrote: In the given circumstance, and considering you could reach 12 votes, as town, would you vote someone claiming the way you did it and playing like you are? Absolutely. I'm all for testing players that claim unlynchable/unkillable, especially if there's a good probability that such testing won't end the day in a No Lynch.
I think Iso should have been insta-trained, and then, after he failed to die, I should have been insta trained, and then when I failed to die, whoever was next to have claimed unlynchable/unkillable should have been trained. That should have continued until everyone was proven or someone was lynched. After, if nobody died, then normal scumhunting or whatever should have continued.
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Resyx wrote: Right now, my top 3 mafia picks would be Ragnarokio, Freddeh and Zokorad. You think Zokorad is Mafia? You think the guy with the proven ability to out Mafia is Mafia?
Interesting choice. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #604 Oct 22, 2013 13:20:14
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tmich wrote: Ahlhis claim is the same role he had in twilight mafia. There are definitely strong similarities, but there's also huge differences. The biggest being, I don't have the design file like I did in Twilight.
tmich wrote: Even if he is telling the thruth the day will not end.
More votes on him please. Day won't end. Go ahead everyone, vote me so we can move past this. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #605 Oct 22, 2013 13:25:06
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tmich wrote: Zoko's role makes much more sense if he can turn a SK-cult member-survivor into town aligned, because mafia turned town just outs the scum team. That's a good point. It is very possible Ahl is scum and Zoko misintrepreted his ability or it's bastardized and actually converts cult, or some other anti-town alignment. Brilliant!
I'm Mafia and Zoko just claimed an ability to confirm a Mafiate if they want to have him target them, so the first thing I do is out myself, because, you know, I totally knew that he was misunderstanding his role and I wouldn't really be outed.
Yep, you've caught me.
Go ahead and try to lynch me now.
Town has lost because I'm an unkillable Mafiate.
Darn, if only your brilliant logic hadn't seen through my schemes, I could have kept this game interesting. Oh well, now everyone knows and there's no more suspense/entertainment to be had. Ok Mod, you might as well call the game now, Mafia wins.
BTW, I've still got that nice bridge for sale. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #606 Oct 22, 2013 14:05:16 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message First of all, let me say that when reading all of your top 3 scum lists and reasons why are pretty interesting. Well, most of them anyway. Secondly, anyone who said something about one(or some) of the claimed unlynchables is scum, I already pretty much said that in my read.
Sadly, I can't really decide on a top 3 myself. There are many inactives and I want to believe that at least half of them are scum and should be lynched. To me, it just makes perfect sense to let the neutrals and the towns fight each other and sit back and watch while they murder each other. Especially in a no-vanilla game. Freddeh and Ragnarokio are among those inactives. I used to suspect Unwritten, but now Shockwave07 has his role or a new one(so weird). In my previous read I also mentioned Resyx but I'm no longer certain of his anti-townness. If anyone can give a stronger case on him let me know.
@Tmich: I also did research on the name you gave and the only thing I came up with was Martin "Marty" Burns, also known as Marvel Boy. He did in fact have contact with Fantastic Four, but as a different alter ego(which could be another person entirely but I was too lazy to check). Also Zinger said you were an honorary member of the Fantastic Four, which Marvel Boy is not. I looked up all the members and none of them are who you say you are in the slightest.
@JD: Agreed. I'm guessing his batteries weren't included. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #607 Oct 22, 2013 14:13:01
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Block User Direct Message @Ahl: I'm going to answer two of your posts on this page.
1st post: I think he meant he wanted an honest "answer" from you, to the question he asked. Also, yes we should test the unlynchables.
4th post: very funny post there. Can you describe your bridge? I'm looking to buy one. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #608 Oct 22, 2013 14:32:23
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Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote:
Arioch22 wrote:
tmich wrote: Zoko's role makes much more sense if he can turn a SK-cult member-survivor into town aligned, because mafia turned town just outs the scum team. That's a good point. It is very possible Ahl is scum and Zoko misintrepreted his ability or it's bastardized and actually converts cult, or some other anti-town alignment. Brilliant!
I'm Mafia and Zoko just claimed an ability to confirm a Mafiate if they want to have him target them, so the first thing I do is out myself, because, you know, I totally knew that he was misunderstanding his role and I wouldn't really be outed.
Yep, you've caught me.
Go ahead and try to lynch me now.
Town has lost because I'm an unkillable Mafiate.
Darn, if only your brilliant logic hadn't seen through my schemes, I could have kept this game interesting. Oh well, now everyone knows and there's no more suspense/entertainment to be had. Ok Mod, you might as well call the game now, Mafia wins.
BTW, I've still got that nice bridge for sale. You sure have been argumentative and defensive this game for a guy that is invincible and doesn't care who wins.
Fact remains, the mod confirmed you are evil. You confirmed your PM doesn't list an alignment. Whether you know it right now or not, your aligment could be anything, including mafia. Assuming you are invincible now, that does not mean you will be the entire game. If you are open to the possibility of your alignment changing, why not your abilities? So no, I don't think the game would be over even if you did know you were currently invincible mafia.
Do I actually think you are invincable mafia at the moment? No, I do not. I'm saying Zoko may have misintrepreted his ability, or it may be bastardized, and therefore the results on you might not mean what people assume they mean.
That's cool though, keep belittling people for discussing ideas in a game in which this is your mentality: "I've already said startight up that I don't give a crap who does or doesn't win. "
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Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote: Absolutely. I'm all for testing players that claim unlynchable/unkillable, especially if there's a good probability that such testing won't end the day in a No Lynch.
I think Iso should have been insta-trained, and then, after he failed to die, I should have been insta trained, and then when I failed to die, whoever was next to have claimed unlynchable/unkillable should have been trained. That should have continued until everyone was proven or someone was lynched. After, if nobody died, then normal scumhunting or whatever should have continued.
Also, this is pretty much what I have been saying all day. I get if you have a restricted vote, like myself, but clearly that is not the case for everyone, so those that can freely move your vote can we get these checks on Ahl, Iso, and Seppel out of the way? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #610 Oct 22, 2013 15:38:30 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message I am going to defend a contreversal policy of ZInger. The policy is the Deadline does not exist policy. It makes sense to me. Think, a paradox would rise if there was a deadline coming from the fact that different people have different lynch threshold. Think: If it was deadline, there would be a very odd scenerio here: A: 10 Threshold, 2 Votes B: 18 Threshold, 3 Votes C: 6 Threshold, 1 Votes Nobody else has votes in this hypothetical and the lowest threshold is 6 in this hypothetical as well. Paradox: who is lynched. If its most votes, B is lynched. If its closest to threshold, C is lynched. If its percentage to threshold, A is lynched. I think that Zinger made the correct decision here as it helps to avoid confusion Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #611 Oct 22, 2013 17:51:23
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LordMark wrote: 4th post: very funny post there. Can you describe your bridge? I'm looking to buy one. It's in good condition, located on prime real estate in sunny Nevada and is going to have a beautiful view of the ocean when the big Earthquake hits and California falls into the sea.
There's no roads going to or from it currently, but that is certain to change in the near future, just as soon as it becomes oceanfront property.
I'm taking bids right now. Starting bid is 50 million. It's a guaranteed steal at that price!
Arioch22 wrote: You sure have been argumentative and defensive this game for a guy that is invincible and doesn't care who wins. Well, what else am I supposed to do between now and night when I can try another of my abilities? Lurk? Sorry, not my style.
Arioch22 wrote: Fact remains, the mod confirmed you are evil. I am. You should lynch me.
Arioch22 wrote: You confirmed your PM doesn't list an alignment. Correct.
Arioch22 wrote: Whether you know it right now or not, your aligment could be anything, including mafia. Again, unkillable Mafia seems a bit broken, doesn't it?
Arioch22 wrote: Assuming you are invincible now, that does not mean you will be the entire game. If you are open to the possibility of your alignment changing, why not your abilities? I'm not open to my alignment "changing". I'm open to it being undefined. If it is undefined at this point, then it could turn out to be anything once revealed (though I still think Mafia is unlikely in the extreme). My abilities however are NOT undefined. And my unkillable nature is just that, part of my role's nature, NOT an ability that can be removed.
"Could" the Mod suddenly tell me my nature has changed and I'm no longer unkillable? Well, theoretically the Mod can do anything he wants. He's the Mod. But unless he wants to violate the design of his own game, I don't see how he can take it away from me. Anything in our Role PM's is supposed to be guaranteed true. There's nothing in my role PM to indicate that my unkillable nature is at all volatile and subject to change. It's stated simply as something that "is", not something that "is... for now".
Time will tell I suppose, but I really will be surprised if anything like what you suggest actually comes to pass. *shrugs*
Arioch22 wrote: Do I actually think you are invincable mafia at the moment? No, I do not. I'm saying Zoko may have misintrepreted his ability, or it may be bastardized, and therefore the results on you might not mean what people assume they mean. Wow. You are really reaching hard to make this work, aren't you. Not only am I supposedly unknowingly Mafia, but Zoko also misunderstood his own ability. Then, I went and claimed to be Mafia to get Zoko to use his ability on me, thinking I was safe with no alignment when I was actually Mafia. But then I got lucky because even though I am really Mafia behind the scenes, Zoko's ability doesn't work like he thinks it does and is actually looking for some "other" kind of evil than Mafia. (Oh, and somewhere down the line my invincibility will magically disappear.)
Wow, I guess I really got lucky there huh?
Or is it just slightly more plausible that Zoko's ability does what he thinks and that I am not Mafia?
I think the more interesting question though is why are you pushing soooo hard to make people think your fantasy is possibly reality? To get me lynched? Doesn't make sense as I've already called for people to try to lynch me multiple times. So, what's your real agenda here?
Arioch22 wrote: That's cool though, keep belittling people for discussing ideas in a game in which this is your mentality: "I've already said straight up that I don't give a crap who does or doesn't win. " I'm not belittling you for "discussing ideas". I'm belittling you for trying to push an agenda through use of pure fantasy.
And while I still don't give a crap who does or doesn't win, that doesn't mean I'm not trying to actively participate in whatever discussion is going on. As I said above, just what the heck else am I supposed to do while I wait for night to fall? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #612 Oct 22, 2013 18:06:34 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message @Lordmark: Ok, you think I'm scum. Early game no big deal. But would at least like to see the reason why? Lurking by my predecessor possibly?
But not sure Tmich is Marvel Boy. If he is trying to drop flavor earlier he might have told us a little something with the I'll work for you if you pay me line he dropped earlier. (Will have to go back and check the post number.) And he claimed Fantasic Four member, which Zinger corrected as an honorary member.
My gut tells me he was trying in a strange way to tell us he was Luke Cage, hero for hire. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #613 Oct 22, 2013 18:12:12 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote: I'm not belittling you for "discussing ideas". I'm belittling you for trying to push an agenda through use of pure fantasy. My agenda is to figure out who is telling the truth and who is not (aka finding scum), while entertaining the idea of all possibilities until I have some proof to the contrary. It's not pure fantasy to speculate at your role and abilities, because no matter what you say, I don't know for sure what is or isn't true. If I were to bet, I would bet that you are telling the truth (mostly), however, I won't be convinced until I see a lynch fail on you and see a kill attempt fail on you. I think that's just mafia basics, you test people that claim unlynchable, I think you even agreed with me on this. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #614 Oct 22, 2013 20:47:51 (Edited)
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Arioch22 wrote:
Ahlyis wrote: I'm not belittling you for "discussing ideas". I'm belittling you for trying to push an agenda through use of pure fantasy. My agenda is to figure out who is telling the truth and who is not (aka finding scum), while entertaining the idea of all possibilities until I have some proof to the contrary. It's not pure fantasy to speculate at your role and abilities, because no matter what you say, I don't know for sure what is or isn't true. If I were to bet, I would bet that you are telling the truth (mostly), however, I won't be convinced until I see a lynch fail on you and see a kill attempt fail on you. I think that's just mafia basics, you test people that claim unlynchable, I think you even agreed with me on this. I do in principle. I think Iso, myself and Seppel(?) should all have our invincibility tested.
That's not my "issue" with you. My issue is that you aren't simply discussing possibilities, you're pushing an extremely unlikely possibility as though it deserves serious consideration. THAT is what I'm calling you to account on.
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Block User Direct Message JayDreven wrote: I see carnage has the reading comprehension level of a first grader.
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Block User Direct Message IsoSTARDUST wrote: EtR what are you even harping on about I've been in enough games where Mafia members can blink out and blink in to not accept a poof as a kill. Purphoros did and now is refusing to answer why he did so. I find it to be scummy.
Purphoros wrote: Yes, good, good.
Now I get to say "lol" to you for putting your useless vote on me.
aka: I'm not jumping through hoops to comply with you. So you accuse people of not scum hunting and then you say you won't jump through hoops when I've asked you a simple question?
I will be going back and re-reading tomorrow. I have been starting up my own game over at MTGS and neglected this one. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #617 Oct 23, 2013 0:38:25
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Block User Direct Message @Ahlyis: Doesnt' every possibility deserve serious consideration, no matter how unlikely?
@Shockwave07: I said I suspected your predecessor; lurking is one of the reasons why. Can you provide evidence that he was not lurking? On another note, if he is Luke Cage, why did he claim to be "Marty Ber"? Where did he even dream up that odd name in the first place? Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #618 Oct 23, 2013 2:17:43
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Block User Direct Message I had a dream that Guardman was scum, once. I pushed him for it.
He was town. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #619 Oct 23, 2013 2:18:40 (Edited)
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#40 Votes edeon for randomly voting then unvoting (so scummy J) and tries to make it out as a valid case #456 Unvotes Ahlys for no discernible reason then votes Seppel even though he is nigh unlynchable if votes on him are halved #512 Votes me for the reason of a misrep, in that I quoted the post. Even if I didn’t it wouldn’t have been a misrep as Pdr still wanted Spiderman to claim, even if he didn’t think it would happen. #518 Says that my ‘misrep’ was the worst thing in the game so far #589 Tries to make my reasons for suspecting he’s scum invalid because he voted me Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message Oh, I forgot to say in the my post that Clinic was voting Ahlys to test him/her. Well yeah he/she was (though I see no problem with that) Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message Zinger2099 wrote: [DAY 1] SUPERIOR 6th VOTECOUNT; or, the "I got some words I wanna stab in your ears!" votecount.
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As for my three top suspicous reads of the day I have:
Seppel: I specialy disliked his attitude when he posted that he is unlynchable, at least Iso and Ahlyis have made more discussion than he has. Basically he has been lurking during the day and when he shiws up he says he is unlynchable. Although his claim could be the the hardest to prove since votes on him count half, so unless everyone votes him it's going to be hard to lynch him. PS: I'm in favor of testing Iso and Ahlyis unlynchable claims. You can count on my 2 votes for it
Freddeh: This could be metagaming but his inaction on this game strikes me as odd and suspicious. Let's say he is in my to watch list.
Purphoros: Same as Freddeh in the sense I don't find him particularly suspicious but his badly constructed case on me (Hey I'm still waiting for your reponse Purphoros to my previous post!) makes me look at him in particualr throughout this game.
So except for Seppel that really want to lynch, the other two are more like people that I'll keep my eye on but that I would still be happy to lynch them today.
Now will we organise a posse to test one of the unlynchable claims? I have heard several people saying that they are up tp it but I don't recall seeing any votes.
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Resyx wrote: Right now, my top 3 mafia picks would be Ragnarokio, Freddeh and Zokorad. You think Zokorad is Mafia? You think the guy with the proven ability to out Mafia is Mafia?
Interesting choice. I could probably try to make some way that it works. But it breaks razors all over. But you have to admit that the last post where he just defends the mod and doesn't add any information is really REALLY bad looking. Guess I'll re-read and see if there's a replacement in my list. tmich wrote: @resyx:why zoko over a lurker that didn't show what is probably a modconfirmed ability to "smite evil"? Because I'm dumb. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #625 Oct 23, 2013 7:13:13 (Edited)
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Ahlyis wrote: Brilliant!
I'm Mafia and Zoko just claimed an ability to confirm a Mafiate if they want to have him target them, so the first thing I do is out myself, because, you know, I totally knew that he was misunderstanding his role and I wouldn't really be outed.
Yep, you've caught me.
Go ahead and try to lynch me now.
Town has lost because I'm an unkillable Mafiate.
Darn, if only your brilliant logic hadn't seen through my schemes, I could have kept this game interesting. Oh well, now everyone knows and there's no more suspense/entertainment to be had. Ok Mod, you might as well call the game now, Mafia wins.
BTW, I've still got that nice bridge for sale.
It very much depends on the point of view, Ahl but this is a bit wifomy. I can see 4 reasons, off the top of my head, to do that as mafia. 1. Get converted to town, and in the process get a lot closer to winning the game - you can argue later on that you give the scum team on a silver platter in exchange for X, where X is your win condition 2. Know or guess that the ability is something a bit different than what Zoko claims or thinks he is as a converted mafiate can give up his entire former team (and if it actually works see point 1). A situation in which you can also paint Zoko in not such a good light (provided on how the mod is involved) 3. Be able to WIFOM with the argument "would I have really done that as mafia?" which might or might not work considering that I am not up to date with the current metagame. 4. You have abilities that would prevent that from working thus confirming yourself as not mafia aligned
I'll give you that it's a daring action that ends up either in great gain or great loss but I've seen and I've done such plays in the past. You are a confident player, you always were, or at least I always thought you to be so personally I wouldn't put it past you to try and pull this.
Not saying that this is the case, but things can go this way just as easy as the other, from where I am standing. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #626 Oct 23, 2013 8:34:11 (Edited)
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LordMark wrote: @Ahlyis: Doesnt' every possibility deserve serious consideration, no matter how unlikely? honestly? No.
Or do you seriously believe we should consider the possibility that Glare of the Loxodon came out of retirement, signed up secretly for this, got a role that lets him never post to the thread, but which gives him 5 Day kills to use at any time he wants, on anyone he wants and he wins the game if he waits until post #650 to start killing and finishes before post #660.
Does that sound like a possibility we should seriously consider?
There is literally an INFINITE number of possibilities. It is simply impossible to seriously consider all of them, no matter how unlikely. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #627 Oct 23, 2013 8:39:28
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Murica wrote: Not saying that this is the case, but things can go this way just as easy as the other, from where I am standing. Possible? Okay, I'll give you that. But "just as easily"??? Uh, yeah. Okay... Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #628 Oct 23, 2013 9:04:50
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Ahlyis wrote:
Murica wrote: Not saying that this is the case, but things can go this way just as easy as the other, from where I am standing.
Possible? Okay, I'll give you that. But "just as easily"??? Uh, yeah. Okay...
Okay, maybe it was poor wording, but I still find it to be a possible scenario. Not as likely as the one you are claiming, but still well within the scenarios that are worth looking into. My previous post implies that I believe the chances to be 50-50 which is not the case. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #629 Oct 23, 2013 10:22:05
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LordMark wrote: @Ahlyis: Doesnt' every possibility deserve serious consideration, no matter how unlikely? honestly? No.
Or do you seriously believe we should consider the possibility that Glare of the Loxodon came out of retirement, signed up secretly for this, got a role that lets him never post to the thread, but which gives him 5 Day kills to use at any time he wants, on anyone he wants and he wins the game if he waits until post #650 to start killing and finishes before post #660.
Does that sound like a possibility we should seriously consider?
There is literally an INFINITE number of possibilities. It is simply impossible to seriously consider all of them, no matter how unlikely. Nice hyperbole. I know you aren't that dense. It's pretty obvious he meant possibilities within the scope of this game, like the possibility that you could be mafia. No one knows your role pm but you, and no one is just going to take you at your word, so we need to consider other possibilities with your role other than what you have claimed, it's part of the game. Don't turn this into a semantics debate. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #630 Oct 23, 2013 11:34:59 (Edited) (Reply to #629)
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Block User Direct Message Thanks for this, but I also meant any possibility that can only be true with certain evidence that explains it. I'm sure I don't have to quote Spock on this. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #631 Oct 23, 2013 13:10:17
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Arioch22 wrote: Nice hyperbole. I know you aren't that dense. It's pretty obvious he meant possibilities within the scope of this game, like the possibility that you could be mafia. No one knows your role pm but you, and no one is just going to take you at your word, so we need to consider other possibilities with your role other than what you have claimed, it's part of the game. Don't turn this into a semantics debate. A) Glare being a hidden player IS within the scope of this game. This is a bastard game. And frankly, it's just about as likely to be the case.
LordMark wrote: Thanks for this, but I also meant any possibility that can only be true with certain evidence that explains it. I'm sure I don't have to quote Spock on this. So, we ignore evidence that disputes it and only focus on evidence that supports the agenda we wish to push? Are you a politician irl?
There is solid, mod given, evidence against me being Mafia yet a case is being pushed to make people think it's reasonable to believe I could be Mafia.
Hmm, you know what, I take it all back. I actually AM Mafia. Zoko is my Mafia buddy and we cooked this all up from the start. I'm 100% unkillable as long as Zoko is alive, after which my lynch threshold becomes half the normal lynch threshold, rounded up.
Please don't kill my Mafia scumbuddy Zokorad. I like having my invincibility. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #632 Oct 23, 2013 13:15:21
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Arioch22 wrote: We also have mod given evidence that you are evil. I am going on the likely assumption that evil people aren't good for town. I'm not good for anybody, except possibly myself. What you gonna do about it?!?!
On a more serious note, I think I'm more like a force of nature than actual evil. A hurricane may cause untold grief and destruction, but it's not personal. It doesn't care who or what it destroys. It simply goes about according to it's nature and the grief and destruction are just the natural result.
I think of my role in a similar vein. I'm not likely to cause anywhere near as much grief and destruction, but the havoc I (hopefully) will wreak isn't specifically directed towards Town or Mafia. It's just part of the nature of my role. Also, not ALL of the things I need to accomplish would be considered "evil", only some of them might be.
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Block User Direct Message Vote: Ahlyis, I am totally enraged at your liar tendancies, I no longer want you alive at all any game as you lie way too often as town and act totally pro Mafia when neutral all the time. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #635 Oct 23, 2013 15:20:40 (Edited) (Reply to #631)
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Block User Direct Message Sorry if my point has been misunderstood, but all I meant was that we should never ignore any possibility just because it seems unlikely. If there is evidence that strongly supports one theory, that doesn't mean it's necessarily the truth. Also, what Zinger posts is not necessarily the truth, either. The game is very bastard and anything can be argued besides the information we recieved in our role pm as well as the rules. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #636 Oct 23, 2013 16:37:04
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Block User Direct Message I've reread, and I think that my case on clinic is better than the Pdr_br wagon. Unvote, Vote Clinic Report Comment
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Zokorad wrote: Vote: Ahlyis, I am totally enraged at your liar tendancies, I no longer want you alive at all any game as you lie way too often as town and act totally pro Mafia when neutral all the time. Aw, don't be mad.
I know I outed you and revealed our plan, but seriously, nobody is going to believe me anyway. You have nothing to worry about.
And even if they do somehow decide I might actually have told the truth and lynch us both in succession, there's still our other member(s) that can probably get the win for us. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #638 Oct 23, 2013 17:38:30
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Block User Direct Message I think Ahylis is The Silver Surfer. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #639 Oct 23, 2013 17:43:18
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IsoSTARDUST wrote: I think Ahylis is The Silver Surfer. I gave you your one guess earlier and as I promised then, I will neither confirm nor deny any further guesses. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #640 Oct 23, 2013 18:55:19
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Block User Direct Message @LordMark: I can't. In fact if anything I'd agree with you looking back. Two posts total. It was as if he didn't want to be in the game. No wonder Zinger declares him dead and me alive.
Not that that solves our other low activity players. Or players that post, but completely confuse the game/site they are in. When did Legend of Zelda become part of the Marvel Universe?!
At least he has some knowledge now. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #641 Oct 23, 2013 19:06:43 (Reply to #640)
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Block User Direct Message And while I am thinking of Seppel, anyone notice that he posted in red not too long after JD did and Zinger never even did anything about it? Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #643 Oct 23, 2013 19:13:48
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Block User Direct Message @Lordmark: Yes. Of what game he is in to elaborate. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #644 Oct 23, 2013 19:28:20 (Reply to #643)
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Block User Direct Message Okay, just making sure I understood. Oh I forgot to mention that I theorized that Seppel might have been Cloak, due to his ability to make people disappear. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #645 Oct 23, 2013 19:38:44 (Edited) (Reply to #642)
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Block User Direct Message I'm sure I noticed it, but I have no clue what that's about. To me, there must be a reason why others can post in red(and by red I mean Carnage red). I can only speculate that they are able to post in red because their roles were designed to be a part of a group. I don't like it one bit. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #646 Oct 23, 2013 20:39:48 (Edited)
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Shockwave07 wrote: And while I am thinking of Seppel, anyone notice that he posted in red not too long after JD did and Zinger never even did anything about it? It might be a bit of confirmation on his claim of being unlynchable.
The apparent penalty for posting in Red when your role doesn't permit it is for the mod to do something that reduces the number of votes needed to lynch you. But if you cannot be lynched...
I suppose I could post something in red and then wait to see whether the Mod does anything about it or not.
*shrugs* Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #647 Oct 23, 2013 23:03:53 (Edited)
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Actually Ahlyis, the penalty for posting in Red varies depending on my mood and the player posting it, but generally speaking I go for directly interfering with your ability to reach your wincon. For JayDreven, that meant votes against him count double. For you it's something far more sinister. By posting in Red you seem to have dropped something of value. You have one fewer uses of the ability you already used once. Congrats. Post in red again and the penalty will be more severe. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
The Tomb of Horrors Discussion. TOP REPLY EDIT DELETE QUOTE #648 Oct 24, 2013 0:01:44 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message I can't help but note the irony of Zinger's red text punishment. First you make Zoko waste a 1-shot on you and now Zinger took the only "bullet" you had for a certain ability. What did you lose? I'll laugh if it was something you absorbed from taking that "hit" from Zoko! Also note Zinger said nothing about Seppel's red text again. He must be a legal user. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #649 Oct 24, 2013 0:50:21
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Block User Direct Message Want to drive one of these other red speakers to either claim range or even a lynch?
Currently we have Jedcaj who hasn't been too active but has at least let us know he's alive. Then we have Seppel, blackmailing us for participation. I think the one to test is clear. Vote: Seppel
There might be another way to get info on them like through a possible investigative role, but short a claim we aren't guaranteed that can happen.
Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #650 Oct 24, 2013 0:54:32 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Quick post, but off the top of my head, we can probably use the red ability text as sort of a vig function - to the player we want "lynched", we can tell them to post in red and evaluate the mod's punishment.
Going to sleep - I'll respond to all points tomorrow. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #651 Oct 24, 2013 1:10:30
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Block User Direct Message EBWOP: Just in case the vote with the broken tags was counted... Unvote Vote: Seppel Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #652 Oct 24, 2013 1:13:04 (Edited) (Reply to #594)
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Burning_Earth wrote: Also the only reason clinic gives for voting me is that I misrepresented Pdr by directly quoting his post. So yeah, that too I guess. You quoted part of his post in order to misrepresent what he was saying. Try again.
Resyx wrote: The active player who most pings me most is Clinic, for coming to Pdr's defense. Pdr can answer for cases against him, and if he can't then he needs to swing. By coming to Clinic's defense, he could have denied us valuable information on Pdr. This is a ridiculous argument. If I don't like the case on someone I am going to speak up.
muric wrote: So you think Clinic is scum because of my gut? Apparently he thinks I'm scum because of something that was written after he decided I was scum...
[/quote="tmich"]@clinic: I have stated multiple times that I think that you are scum. What do you think about that?[/quote] Since you, and others, have mentioned me as a scumread without any substantial explanation as to why, I don't feel there is much to think about at all.
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Block User Direct Message I don't like that thought Purphoros. True, could help us with info on a player, but we also run the risk of taking away a shot from an X-shot ability. And this will hurt quite a bit if this player we're pushing to a lynch is town.
Or we could see some other punishment Zinger has up his sleeve. I wonder what would happen to our already affected red text abusers if they chose to repeat the offense. Not that we're likely to get an example. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #654 Oct 24, 2013 1:28:08 (Reply to #619)
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burning_earth wrote: Posts that make me suspect Clinic
#40 Votes edeon for randomly voting then unvoting (so scummy J) and tries to make it out as a valid case #456 Unvotes Ahlys for no discernible reason then votes Seppel even though he is nigh unlynchable if votes on him are halved #512 Votes me for the reason of a misrep, in that I quoted the post. Even if I didn’t it wouldn’t have been a misrep as Pdr still wanted Spiderman to claim, even if he didn’t think it would happen. #518 Says that my ‘misrep’ was the worst thing in the game so far #589 Tries to make my reasons for suspecting he’s scum invalid because he voted me Wow some content against me, finally.
I'll address each in order: Point 1: I despise the random voting stage and will almost always attempt to get out of it asap. I've found the best way to do this is to try to make a serious case against someone no matter how innocuous it might seem. I admit that the reason for voting edeon was not a strong one, but after all we were only 40 posts in by that stage and I challenge you to find a better case at that point. Did I actually think he was scum/plan to keep my vote on him through to lynch? Clearly not.
Point 2: I voted seppel because I took his claim to be "I'm unlynchable, and on top of that votes are halved against me" which didn't make any sense to me. As it turned out seppel's claim was something more akin to "I'm unlynchable because votes are halved against me". Anyway why is me voting him in what looked to be a fruitless act scummy on my behalf?
Point 3/4: You did misrep pdr, to quote my own post about it: clinic wrote: burning_earth wrote: I would like to draw attention to post # 311 in which Pdr says spiderman needs to claim 'because win conditions'.
Otherwise agree with Purphoros
Vote Pdr_Br This is a pretty bad misrep. a) he said he "wanted" spiderman to claim b) it was in response to iso saying he wanted all the townies to claim c) he followed it up with "but I don't think we will get what we want", clearly showing he didn't actually expect spiderman to claim
here's the whole post:
pdr_br wrote: IsoSTARDUST wrote: I still want all of the townies to claim.
I want spider-man to claim but I don't think we will get what we want And I agree with Resyx Spidey has failed us once again.
Since you still don't understand you misrepped specifically because you said "pdr says spiderman needs to claim", indicated that pdr was trying to force a claim or something similar. Which he clearly wasn't doing.
Oh and it was the worst thing in the game up until that point. What of it?
Point 5: You hadn't provided any reasons yet, so what was I supposed to think?
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Block User Direct Message @ clinic: To clarify, I was saying that Pdr said spiderman should claim for the town. I didn't use 'needs' as in 'he was forcing a claim'. I was using it as in 'he said spiderman should claim for the sake of the town'. Sorry for the misunderstanding Also @ clinic the second post I found suspicious about you wasn't exactly that you were scummy, just I found it wierd that, being the biggest proponent of testing Ahlys, you then put your vote on a nigh untestable player
Anyway, my case is now not votable because of that misunderstanding so Unvote Vote Pdr_br
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Block User Direct Message Clinic wrote:
Apparently he thinks I'm scum because of something that was written after he decided I was scum...
Erm, 4 out of 5 posts I mentioned were written before I expressed any sentiment that you were scum.
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Block User Direct Message Shockwave07 wrote: Want to drive one of these other red speakers to either claim range or even a lynch?
Currently we have Jedcaj who hasn't been too active but has at least let us know he's alive. Then we have Seppel, blackmailing us for participation. I think the one to test is clear. Vote: Seppel
There might be another way to get info on them like through a possible investigative role, but short a claim we aren't guaranteed that can happen.
Guys, we shouldn't vote Seppel. If all votes on him are halved, we basically all need to vote for him, and the day would never end Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message I don't remember guessing before. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #659 Oct 24, 2013 4:51:18
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote: Quick post, but off the top of my head, we can probably use the red ability text as sort of a vig function - to the player we want "lynched", we can tell them to post in red and evaluate the mod's punishment.
Going to sleep - I'll respond to all points tomorrow. Nopity popity nope! In a standard game, we might be able to get away with gaming the mod this way, but I suspect that such an antic would net a far worse result than you could possibly anticipate. That's what happens when the rules are made up and the points don't matter. Clinic wrote: Resyx wrote: The active player who most pings me most is Clinic, for coming to Pdr's defense. Pdr can answer for cases against him, and if he can't then he needs to swing. By coming to Clinic's defense, he could have denied us valuable information on Pdr. This is a ridiculous argument. If I don't like the case on someone I am going to speak up.
So do you think B_E is mafia pushing a case on Pdr or is he merely just making a mistake? Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #660 Oct 24, 2013 8:10:17 (Edited) (Reply to #656)
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burning_earth wrote: Clinic wrote:
Apparently he thinks I'm scum because of something that was written after he decided I was scum...
Erm, 4 out of 5 posts I mentioned were written before I expressed any sentiment that you were scum. Lol, that was more of a cheapshot pointing out that you were using murica's post against me as your reason why I was scum, which was posted after you thought I was scum.
resyx wrote: So do you think B_E is mafia pushing a case on Pdr or is he merely just making a mistake? With the recent clarification of his stance I'm not as bullish on it, but I certainly didn't like his case on pdr at the time. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #661 Oct 24, 2013 8:30:29 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Clinic, I'm just curious as to why we couldn't hear from Pdr about the case against him. Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with you speaking up about bad cases, I just want to hear from the accused before I they get reinforcements.
Burning_Earth wrote: Guys, we shouldn't vote Seppel. If all votes on him are halved, we basically all need to vote for him, and the day would never end
Well, unvoting is a thing, so we could all pile on him, and then switch afterward, except for those who might not be able to switch. Why would you think that the day would never end? Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #662 Oct 24, 2013 8:35:44 (Edited) (Reply to #661)
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Well I did respond to the case on me in this post. Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #663 Oct 24, 2013 11:49:35
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Block User Direct Message I'm a little upset that my avatar having a transparent background makes this blue silhouette crap appear behind it. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #664 Oct 24, 2013 12:19:44
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Block User Direct Message Did you ever consider that votes on seppel might be halved as a defense mechanism for having a low threshold? Open question, btw. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #665 Oct 24, 2013 12:41:55
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Block User Direct Message Worth testing. All we have to work with at the moment are reactions, claims (most untested), and the votecounts. I want to know why Seppel has his ability of red writting. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #666 Oct 24, 2013 13:18:29 (Edited)
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Interesting.
Okay, that makes one of my wincons a lot harder to meet. (Thereby making my overall wincon hard.)
Not the end of the world. Though I certainly don't plan to post in red again. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #667 Oct 24, 2013 15:49:47 (Edited)
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What trully is interesting is that we have mod confirmation that you have already used an ability. Which, also considering you are a bad guy, makes me wonder.
There were a few restrictions. I wonder if none of them is the result of your ability. There are a few unlikely inactives. I wonder if you are not behind any of that. I wouldn't be surprised if you silenced Rag for example. It makes me even more reluctant to go towards an inactive.
I start to think of all sorts of scenarios now... this is not helping Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #668 Oct 24, 2013 16:31:47 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Such is the paranoia inducing nature of Mafia.
But seriously, we need to find a direction to go and stick with it whether it be Seppel, Clinic, PDR_BR. We're not going to advance this game without a lynch. Besides, we've already seen the result of one of Carnage's body count mile markers. I'm scared to see what is yet to come! Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #669 Oct 24, 2013 16:56:08
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Block User Direct Message Wow lots of things to post about.
@Ahlyis: Congrats on testing the red text. I hope it was worth it.
@Shockwave07: I shouldn't have to remind you that you don't need to unvote to change your vote. It's recommended but not necessary.
@Clinic: You're defending Pdr way too strongly on a case that is perfectly sound. He admitted that he needed Spiderman as a part of his win conditions, and clearly tried to guilt-trip him into claiming so that he could use him for his own agenda. If that isn't scummy, I don't know what is. Also, by wanting to defend Pdr so badly, you've thrown yourself into the light(yes, that means I'm looking at you now). It appears that you want him alive for either a win condition of your own or because you know he's important to your team winning. Yes, I'm speculating that team is mafia. So you may want to rethink your strategy a little bit. For the sake of your own win condition.
@B_E & Resyx: Seppel may need 24 votes to be lynched, but that does not mean he needs everyone on him. We know for a fact that at least 2 people have multiple votes. Otherwise, we would need him and the people who can't vote to vote for him, too(not to mention the people who aren't alive and accounted for). Still, I'm not saying it would be easy(if possible at all).
@Iso: I thought your avatar looked just fine. I don't get JDs avatar at all. I mean seriously? A barcode? What's that about?
@Murica: Good thinking. It could have been anything, but if it makes his wincons harder, then I am going to speculate that it has something to do with investigation. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #670 Oct 24, 2013 17:02:39 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Something just occurred to me. Zinger planned originally for 21 players, right? Knowing now that he had incorporated this "mob vote" into the game as a special feature that had to do with the bodycount of Carnage, isn't it possible that he planned to use a 20-sided die to randomly decide who would be voted next? Now of course it would have to be different because there are more players involved. Unless those he added were unlynchable and he doesn't include them in the roll. What do you guys think about this? It's not really important, but it's certainly something to think about. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #671 Oct 24, 2013 17:11:31
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Block User Direct Message @Murica: I don't think I'd put inactives on Ahl. A lot of the inactives are no longer regulars here, Rag included. This is pretty par for the course on activity for him as of late.
Plan of action: In the interest of not having an unending day, what do the active players say to a player enforced deadline. And by that I mean we vote however we see fit for the duration of an agreed upon time period. At the end of that period, we move all necessary votes to the the player that has the most votes to enforce their lynch. Thoughts? Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #672 Oct 24, 2013 17:54:05 (Edited)
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Murica wrote: What trully is interesting is that we have mod confirmation that you have already used an ability. Which, also considering you are a bad guy, makes me wonder. Boy, you better hope you're wrong about that or Town is screwed!
Or, are you defining "bad guy" as something other than "threat to Town"?
Murica wrote: There were a few restrictions. I wonder if none of them is the result of your ability. There are a few unlikely inactives. I wonder if you are not behind any of that. I wouldn't be surprised if you silenced Rag for example. It makes me even more reluctant to go towards an inactive. You are of course free to disbelieve me, but my ability fizzled (as I already claimed). I made a poor choice of target and ended up with nothing except one less use of the ability. Now two less uses given the punishment from the Mod. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #673 Oct 24, 2013 18:00:58 (Edited)
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LordMark wrote: @Ahlyis: Congrats on testing the red text. I hope it was worth it. Sort of. As far as penalties go that I wasn't expecting, it could have been MUCH worse! I can survive this. It makes things a bit tougher, but isn't devastating by any means. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #674 Oct 24, 2013 18:08:16
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JayDreven wrote: we vote however we see fit for the duration of an agreed upon time period. At the end of that period, we move all necessary votes to the the player that has the most votes to enforce their lynch. Thoughts?
Good luck with that!
I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I'm just saying it's never going to actually work. But go ahead, give it a try.
Out of curiosity, what is your plan when, at the end of the period, the player with the most votes is one of the unlynchables? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #675 Oct 24, 2013 18:39:59
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Block User Direct Message It actually could work far better than actual voting, as there are those whom are limited in voting and those that cannot vote altogether. If we allow them (including you unlynchables) to partake in the decision (perhaps through means of FoS), we will get far more trains of thought and will probably end somewhere other than you or Iso. Before you both throw out that you have no incentive because you are "neutral", Iso does need to off Venom, this gives me a medium to do so. You want day to finally proceed so that you can get on with whatever you need to get on with (not to mention seeing certain players swing might aid you there as well).
As for if we end on an unlynchable, the vote will create a hierarchy. We pile on the first. If everybody gives and day continues, we switch to the secondary. Rinse and repeat. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #676 Oct 24, 2013 19:54:16 (Edited)
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Tempted to jump on seppel wagon just to make things easier to end the day, since it seems like testing carnage is out of there. And you know, Seppel seemed to be pro-carnage (as a player if not a role).
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Fair enough.
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Block User Direct Message I'll tell you why this is a bad idea; mafia will often win because they can coordinate. It's very likely that they have already decided who they want dead first. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #679 Oct 25, 2013 2:25:52
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Block User Direct Message Pdr_Br wrote: Well I did respond to the case on me in this post. Granted, but you're just part of my argument. It's not that you didn't respond, just that Clinic took the wind from your sails.
@Mark: Eh, I've no desire to test Seppel right now. More interested in B_E's response. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #680 Oct 25, 2013 2:56:49 (Reply to #661)
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resyx wrote: Clinic, I'm just curious as to why we couldn't hear from Pdr about the case against him. Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with you speaking up about bad cases, I just want to hear from the accused before I they get reinforcements. I wasn't stopping or discouraging pdr from responding to the case on him (which he did eventually do). Perhaps I could have waited for him to respond before coming in with my opinion but I didn't want to. I guess that's just not how I play.
lordmark wrote: @Clinic: You're defending Pdr way too strongly on a case that is perfectly sound. He admitted that he needed Spiderman as a part of his win conditions, and clearly tried to guilt-trip him into claiming so that he could use him for his own agenda. If that isn't scummy, I don't know what is. Also, by wanting to defend Pdr so badly, you've thrown yourself into the light(yes, that means I'm looking at you now). It appears that you want him alive for either a win condition of your own or because you know he's important to your team winning. Yes, I'm speculating that team is mafia. So you may want to rethink your strategy a little bit. For the sake of your own win condition. "he clearly tried to guilt-trip him in to claiming" Is this a joke? Do you really think that would ever work? Furthermore do you really think SCUM would THINK that could possibly work?
To summarise what you are suggesting: - Scum pdr has a role that involves spiderman. - Scum pdr thinks best way to get spiderman to claim is to "guilt trip" him in to doing it, even though it is unecessarily revealing information about his scum role, and possibly putting himself in a bad light - He attempts to "guilt trip" spiderman by mentioning that he'd like him to claim in an offhand matter, and doesn't push the issue at all. Come on!
And then to continue with your theory: - people start to accuse scum pdr of "forcing spiderman to claim", due to the fact that he willingly revealed information about his role, and put himself in a bad light - Scum clinic goes in to panic mode and starts defending his scum partner, even though this will clearly link them together Laughable. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #681 Oct 25, 2013 2:57:54 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message @Mark: Meh. If my avatar had a white background, the blue dude wouldn't be showing through it. Also, you can generate a 21-sided die online, y'know.
@Jay: I don't have a vote and I don't care who dies provided Venom dies and I survive to the end of the game. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #683 Oct 25, 2013 10:58:25
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Block User Direct Message LordMark wrote: Something just occurred to me. Zinger planned originally for 21 players, right? Knowing now that he had incorporated this "mob vote" into the game as a special feature that had to do with the bodycount of Carnage, isn't it possible that he planned to use a 20-sided die to randomly decide who would be voted next? Now of course it would have to be different because there are more players involved. Unless those he added were unlynchable and he doesn't include them in the roll. What do you guys think about this? It's not really important, but it's certainly something to think about. How is this something to think about? What relevance does it have to anything? If Zinger confirmed he does indeed use a die roll, how is that going to change anything? If Zinger confirms that he doesn't use a die roll, how does that change anything? Pointless post is pointless.
LordMark wrote: I'll tell you why this is a bad idea; mafia will often win because they can coordinate. It's very likely that they have already decided who they want dead first. And that's different from a normal game how? In a normal game mafia coordinates and can place their votes on people, but they need to be careful because they leave a trail. This is the exact same as that. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #684 Oct 25, 2013 11:01:59
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Block User Direct Message Also, my stance on who to lynch hasn't changed. Unlynchable claims need to be tested, always. D1 is the best time to do it. We need to try and lynch Ahlyis, Iso, and Seppel and I probably won't vote for anyone else until all three of them have been tested.
The last game that I was unlynchable, I lost that status after the first lynch failed. Second lynch killed me dead. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #685 Oct 25, 2013 13:41:23
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Block User Direct Message @Clinic: I was actually trying to get a read from you. Obviously it wasn't my best idea, but I did get the response I was looking for.
@Iso: I know, but somehow I don't think he'd use an online tool.
@Arioch22: If he confirms that he doesn't use a die roll, then there's a reason why people are picked. Is that not a reason? As for the forced voting, it's different from a normal game in that if somehow that idea was actually enforced, then the mafia coordination would make their choice easier to lynch. Duh. Of course, it won't happen, so therefore it's obviously not a good idea. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #686 Oct 25, 2013 14:05:34
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Block User Direct Message That's still no different, mark. Voting is still public and we will still be able to see how the votes were laid out prior to our self imposed deadline. So if mafia wants to give themselves away they can all pile on the same person, but just like in any other deadlined game, we will be able to see and we will catch them at it. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #687 Oct 25, 2013 14:18:03 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Carnage is boring me.
Disappearin' the cow: IsoSTARDUST Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #688 Oct 25, 2013 14:44:14
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Block User Direct Message I support the whole plan of the whoever has the most votes lynch player enforced quasi-deadline on the condition that 5 conditions are made: 1. Angry Mob Votes are not taken in consideration for deciding who is the target of the quasi-deadline 2. Players who don't have a vote of their own are not taken into consideration. 3. Carnage does not count. I forgot what number 4 was. 5. ZInger is fine with it.
Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #689 Oct 25, 2013 14:56:55 (Reply to #686)
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Block User Direct Message Not necessarily. They could have one member build up a case on someone they want to lynch and if it worked, people would start to pile on. Sure, if it was the entire mafia team and nobody else then they would be screwed. But there would be no way to prove anything. Think whatever you'd like, but I certainly would never vote for someone who didn't have a compelling case on them. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #690 Oct 25, 2013 15:14:58 (Edited)
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LordMark wrote: Think whatever you'd like, but I certainly would never vote for someone who didn't have a compelling case on them. Sounds like you're ready to buy that bridge I've got for sale! Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #691 Oct 25, 2013 15:55:08 (Reply to #690)
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Block User Direct Message How do you figure? Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #692 Oct 25, 2013 17:22:02
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Seppel_ wrote: Carnage is boring me.
Disappearin' the cow: IsoSTARDUST
I find the timing of this action very very scummy.
I will probably have a longer post tomorrow about: - my request that people post their most scummy players - Jay's idea about the pseudo-deadline - Seppel's move Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #693 Oct 25, 2013 17:24:03 (Edited) Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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Purphoros wrote: What do you mean by "at this point in the game"? Will you have more relevance later in the game? Why do you seem to think I care whether or not I am relevant to everyone else? I've already said startight up that I don't give a crap who does or doesn't win. What YOU think about me really has no meaning to me. I DON'T CARE what you think about me.
Do you have any purpose to posting in daychat?
If you don't, I'm going to ignore your posts for the rest of the game.
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@purphoros:name on MS?
I don't play on mafiascum.
EtR wrote:
IsoSTARDUST wrote: EtR what are you even harping on about
I've been in enough games where Mafia members can blink out and blink in to not accept a poof as a kill. Purphoros did and now is refusing to answer why he did so. I find it to be scummy.
Purphoros wrote: Yes, good, good.
Now I get to say "lol" to you for putting your useless vote on me.
aka: I'm not jumping through hoops to comply with you.
So you accuse people of not scum hunting and then you say you won't jump through hoops when I've asked you a simple question?
Yes.
Let's look at your position here.
You ask a question. I refuse to answer. You vote me. Just what is that vote accomplishing?
I highly doubt that you can muster a wagon on me based on not answering a question.
I also doubt that I'm your biggest scum read, since there are a great deal of people far more scummier than me.
tl;dr: EtR is trying to do... something by pressuring me, and I'm not sure what that "something" is.
Shockwave07 wrote: I don't like that thought Purphoros. True, could help us with info on a player, but we also run the risk of taking away a shot from an X-shot ability. And this will hurt quite a bit if this player we're pushing to a lynch is town.
Or we could see some other punishment Zinger has up his sleeve. I wonder what would happen to our already affected red text abusers if they chose to repeat the offense. Not that we're likely to get an example.
Well, we can use the punishment to determine the player's alignment.
We can also use it as a soft lynch as it seems like we can't get any trains developing on anybody.
Resyx wrote:
Nopity popity nope! In a standard game, we might be able to get away with gaming the mod this way, but I suspect that such an antic would net a far worse result than you could possibly anticipate. That's what happens when the rules are made up and the points don't matter.
Clinic wrote: Resyx wrote: The active player who most pings me most is Clinic, for coming to Pdr's defense. Pdr can answer for cases against him, and if he can't then he needs to swing. By coming to Clinic's defense, he could have denied us valuable information on Pdr. This is a ridiculous argument. If I don't like the case on someone I am going to speak up.
So do you think B_E is mafia pushing a case on Pdr or is he merely just making a mistake?
This is baseless speculation. We'll never know until we try.
Seppel_ wrote: Carnage is boring me.
Disappearin' the cow: IsoSTARDUST
I eagerly await the result of this.
Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #694 Oct 25, 2013 17:30:54 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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So Purphoros can you explain me your reasoning concerning point 2 of your case?
no Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #695 Oct 25, 2013 17:43:46 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Even though Murica is probably scum, I agree with him re: getting the game moving, so I'll support his "top three scumreads" thing or whatever.
Also JeyDreven with his plan of sheeping the top scumread.
EVERYONE SHOULD FILL OUT THE FOLLOWING CHART NEUTRALS ARE NOT LISTED ON HERE:
To post the top three people they want lynched today. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #696 Oct 25, 2013 18:42:30
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Block User Direct Message In no particular order, the 3 most scummy people are: Resyx (Omgus), Ahlyis (Various), and IsoStarDust (Mod) I think IsoStardust is probably a Serial Killer with more special powers. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #697 Oct 25, 2013 19:36:15 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Now that I think about it, Resyx might be 3/4 COrrect, I think I might have just let him thinking I am scum distance too much. Other than his Scumread on me, now that I think about it, his scumreads might be correct. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #698 Oct 25, 2013 23:12:45 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Resyx wrote: Clinic, I'm just curious as to why we couldn't hear from Pdr about the case against him. Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with you speaking up about bad cases, I just want to hear from the
Well, unvoting is a thing, so we could all pile on him, and then switch afterward, except for those who might not be able to switch. Why would you think that the day would never end?
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Block User Direct Message @Jay: Why do you disbelieve that Zinger would use an online generator when that's easily and readily accessible as opposed to going out of his way to custom-order a 21-sided die?
Seppel_ wrote: Carnage is boring me.
Disappearin' the cow: IsoSTARDUST
If this functions like a kill, you just wasted it.
Zokorad wrote: In no particular order, the 3 most scummy people are: Resyx (Omgus), Ahlyis (Various), and IsoStarDust (Mod) I think IsoStardust is probably a Serial Killer with more special powers.
i think ur dum Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #700 Oct 25, 2013 23:21:01
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote:
Burning_Earth: Clinic, Pdr_br, Ragnarokio
I now suspect Ragnarokio more than Ahlys. All he/she said was "I can hyperboost your abilities! Yeah!" and nothing else. It just seemed like "Don't lynch me! I...um have a great ability! And I'm Neutral!" Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message And I no longer suspect clinic. He's been very helpful and explained all the things I've had on him. So, yeah, top 3 scum: Seppel (but please don't try lynch him, we need to go somewhere with this game) Pdr_br and Ragnarokio Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message Burning_Earth wrote: And I no longer suspect clinic. He's been very helpful and explained all the things I've had on him. So, yeah, top 3 scum: Seppel (but please don't try lynch him, we need to go somewhere with this game) Pdr_br and Ragnarokio
Changing my list then. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #703 Oct 26, 2013 0:53:40
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Block User Direct Message It feels weird to actually ask a scumhunting question after active lurking and spewing ad hom the entire game, but why does his list change yours? Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #704 Oct 26, 2013 1:08:25 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message IsoSTARDUST wrote: It feels weird to actually ask a scumhunting question after active lurking and spewing ad hom the entire game, but why does his list change yours?
Just wanted to note that change. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #705 Oct 26, 2013 2:19:43
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Block User Direct Message He has a list of everyone's top 3 scum reads. I changed mine. Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote: Resyx: Ragnarokio, Freddeh, Zokorad, Clinic This was amended. After it was pointed out that Zokorad was the one with the convert mafia ability, I took him off the list. Zokorad wrote: Now that I think about it, Resyx might be 3/4 COrrect, I think I might have just let him thinking I am scum distance too much. Other than his Scumread on me, now that I think about it, his scumreads might be correct. Why do you agree with me on the first two? Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #709 Oct 26, 2013 12:42:54
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As promives, more from me today. When I requested a list of top 3 scum for everybody, I was looking mostly for inconsistencies and the time it takes to answer. Not to make a "popularity" contest for badnwagoners. Purphoros sort of tried to turn it that way, though I do not see the gain for any side he might be in. However, there are some interesting facts that I have gathered from this.
There are 4 somewhat active players that have posted quite a bit after my request and that have not answered it. Those people are: Ahlyis (22 posts), IsoStardust, Shockwave07 and Burning_Earth (11 posts) Of course, given the circumstances we can rule out Ahly and Iso who outright stated that have no interest in helping the town and as such they won't act towards that. The big surprise here is Burning_Earth, who has not provided a list after my request (I have double checked, and while it has happend in the past that I miss data, unless proved otherwise I do believe that he did not answer my request). However, he does appear in Purphoros' list with 3 options. Not only that, but he corrects his options a bit later saying that he changed his mind.
Another discrepancy is that in Purphoros' list Resyx has Ragnarokio, Freddeh, Zokorad and Clinic. In my list, Clinic is missing when it comes to Resyx.
Anywho, since it might be useful, here is what I have. Those are all the people that posted since my request and until Purphoros sounded the alarm. Each * is a post (I have stopped counting posts after the + - which is a 3scum list post).
Will definitely look further into this, but for the time being I have to FoS: Purphoros FoS: Burning_Earth Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #712 Oct 26, 2013 13:50:02 (Edited)
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I also had 2 more topics to discuss.
Regarding Jay's idea I find it very useful but I doubt we can put it into action. People are usually stoubborn and I doubt you can convince them to change their votes on someone they don't believe is scum. That is why even in games which had enforced deadlines, there were people that argued until the last second. Don't get me wrong, I am all for it but I don't think it is going to work.
And lastly, the stunt Seppel_ just pulled. I have nothing against the action by itself, but I have to ask: why not earlier? Why not before the 50 casualty thresh-hold? Why not before the angry mob votes? FoS: Seppel
It looks like the ability failed either way which is a shame. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #713 Oct 26, 2013 18:40:54
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Block User Direct Message Murica wrote: As promives, more from me today. When I requested a list of top 3 scum for everybody, I was looking mostly for inconsistencies and the time it takes to answer. Not to make a "popularity" contest for badnwagoners. Purphoros sort of tried to turn it that way, though I do not see the gain for any side he might be in. However, there are some interesting facts that I have gathered from this.
There are 4 somewhat active players that have posted quite a bit after my request and that have not answered it. Those people are: Ahlyis (22 posts), IsoStardust, Shockwave07 and Burning_Earth (11 posts) Of course, given the circumstances we can rule out Ahly and Iso who outright stated that have no interest in helping the town and as such they won't act towards that. The big surprise here is Burning_Earth, who has not provided a list after my request (I have double checked, and while it has happend in the past that I miss data, unless proved otherwise I do believe that he did not answer my request). However, he does appear in Purphoros' list with 3 options. Not only that, but he corrects his options a bit later saying that he changed his mind.
Another discrepancy is that in Purphoros' list Resyx has Ragnarokio, Freddeh, Zokorad and Clinic. In my list, Clinic is missing when it comes to Resyx.
Anywho, since it might be useful, here is what I have. Those are all the people that posted since my request and until Purphoros sounded the alarm. Each * is a post (I have stopped counting posts after the + - which is a 3scum list post).
Will definitely look further into this, but for the time being I have to FoS: Purphoros FoS: Burning_Earth
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Unvote, Vote Ragnarokio.
At least pdr's been active, wheras Rag has given us nothing except a reason not to lynch him, a super-boost ability. He's basically been a lurker with anti-lynch insurance: his claimed (and I think fake) ability. Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message Also, I previously said that I read clinic, pdr_br and Ahlys were scum. I changed my mind so now my top 3 is Rag Seppel and Pdr Report Comment
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Top 3 lynch?
#1 Carnage Test #2 Seppel, Carnage's follower. (big gap) #3 Purphoros: Calling for top-3 scum *can* be fishy Report Comment "Enjoy your screams, Sarpadia - they will soon be muffled beneath snow and ice."
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Block User Direct Message I don't think "test Carnage's ability" counts as "someone I want to lynch". Seeing as I wouldn't die.
Also, I'm partially cleared now, as Seppel's ability failed on me. `-` Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #719 Oct 27, 2013 3:40:35
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Block User Direct Message Again, Iso helps the town while claiming to be a psychotic mass murderer.
Seems legit.
Tevish, your first two options are basically avoiding an actual answer. While it's fine wanting to test their claims, when putting together a list on mafia, we need to assume they're telling the truth. So, assuming test lynches fail, what does your list look like?
Murica, I listed Clinic as my active posting suspect in my response. I haven't yet decided how I feel about his answering me on the discussion of answering for others. I also removed Zokorad from my list as mentioned above. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #720 Oct 27, 2013 5:13:53
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Story of my life. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #721 Oct 27, 2013 5:57:37
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@ murica: must have missed where you asked for the top 3 scum, I should read more carefully...
In any case my top 3 are:
Seppel Ahlyis Iso
Top 3 that actually have a shot at being lynched:
Freddeh - lurking, and his pdr vote out of nowhere looked bad Edeon - lurking, and his posts seem very shallow comments on the game state rather than any sort of analysis Burning earth - although he's seemed more reasonable lately.
Other than that I've got my eye on:
Purphoros Resyx and particularly Lord Mark. Looking back his comment about there being "at least six town" all the way back in 179 still rubs me the wrong way. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE Pages « FIRST‹ PREVIOUS…141516171819202122…NEXT ›LAST » Paranoia ParadiseParanoia ParadiseGame ArchiveMAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia [TOWN/GOBLIN VICTORY] Reply Your name Zinger2099 Response * Format
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Block User Direct Message New list: Ahlyis Ragnarkio Freddeh Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #723 Oct 27, 2013 11:08:31
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Burning_Earth wrote: I said that in post #701
That is correct and I managed to miss it twice Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #724 Oct 27, 2013 13:25:06 (Edited)
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Not that this should make much of a difference, but I just wanted to let everyone know that I am currently looking for a replacement for Ragnarokio. His innactivity is not a result of some kind of posting restriction imposed by the game, his role, or me. If anyone knows of a potential player that you could invite to the game, put them in touch with me. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 wrote: Not that this should make much of a difference, but I just wanted to let everyone know that I am currently looking for a replacement for Ragnarokio. His innactivity is not a result of some kind of posting restriction imposed by the game, his role, or me. If anyone knows of a potential player that you could invite to the game, put them in touch with me.
I think Venger said something about replacing in the sign up thread Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #726 Oct 27, 2013 16:36:44
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Murica wrote:
Zinger2099 wrote: Not that this should make much of a difference, but I just wanted to let everyone know that I am currently looking for a replacement for Ragnarokio. His innactivity is not a result of some kind of posting restriction imposed by the game, his role, or me. If anyone knows of a potential player that you could invite to the game, put them in touch with me.
I think Venger said something about replacing in the sign up thread I tried contacting him already. He's AWOL.
I found someone just now though. Waiting on him to check in. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message My posts will have even less substance than usual due to real life obligations over the next few days. Just a heads-up. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #728 Oct 27, 2013 17:09:26 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Hello all! Anyone mind giving me a quick recap, as well as general reads on my slot?
Also, has it been defined anywhere what becomin Carnage means? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #729 Oct 27, 2013 17:10:42 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Btw, if it isn't obvious, I'm replacing Ragnarockio or however you spell it. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #730 Oct 27, 2013 18:04:35
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Block User Direct Message Welcome to the game LnGrrrR. I can answer the question on your slot, Ragnarokio didn't post too much of substance before you joined, just claimed an awesome ability that allows players multi-shot abilities to be used all in one go when targeted. So not much to go on, but going to say I have a null read on the slot, though a few players (will have to read through to remember who) feel this is a ploy to keep votes off her/him as scum by playing an awesome town card. I can't say if that's the case only because Rag seems a weird character in mafia. Unfortunately, I have nothing to reference. All on-going. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #731 Oct 27, 2013 18:22:25
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User LnGrrrR replaces Ragnarokio
Please give him a warm welcome. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message I can... semi confirm that. I would like to catch up on the thread before I say too much more. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #733 Oct 27, 2013 18:45:02 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Also a quick major events:
Iso/Carnage opens claims unlynchable/Bulletproof. Targets Lordmark with a day kill. He misses for reasons yet unknown. Mod's post and Lordmark's reaction implies hidden ability.
Zokorad claims 1-shot mafia turn ability, looking for willing mafia target. Ahlyis claims mafia, becomes targeted by ability and it fizzles. Flavor post mentions Ahlyis was not the evil Zoko was looking for. Arguments insue whether Ahl was cleared of being scum or not. Ahl claims unlynchable, bulletproof, no-vote.
I die at Carnage's hands according to mod's post (if you don't believe the flavor post, more power to you), but am later somehow swapped with The Unwritten who gets my old dead role while I get his.
Carnage hits 50 flavor kills. Mob votes start to happen.
JayDreven calls for a player enforced deadline, as complaining to the mod only results in Mod penalties like Murica's triple mod vote.
Certain players show capability to use red colored text without penelty: Jedcaj and Seppel. Others like Ahlyis and one forgotten player, will read through and find the other one, take mod chosen penalties for illegal red text usage.
That's about all I have. Though there are other events that I don't have all the details on like the Pdr_br wagon. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #734 Oct 27, 2013 18:57:05 (Edited)
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Murica wrote: Regarding Jay's idea I find it very useful but I doubt we can put it into action. People are usually stoubborn and I doubt you can convince them to change their votes on someone they don't believe is scum. That is why even in games which had enforced deadlines, there were people that argued until the last second. Don't get me wrong, I am all for it but I don't think it is going to work. I think that people don't change their votes on a normal deadline game cause well they don't need to, doing so will only make them look flipfloppy and/or bandwaggony, if we all (or most) compromise to do this there would be a reason to change votes and no backlash on doing so.
As for my top 3, that I'll have to wait a bit since they are basically the claimed unlynchables, other than that I haven't really weighted the cases on Pdr or Clinic (for example) and their attackers. Just give me a few hours to review the thread, see if I can do this after all this time not playing and not being good at reviewing prior to that (this is me putting myself in a tight spot for self motivation) Report Comment random stuff my colors if they weren't obvious enough TOP REPLY QUOTE #735 Oct 27, 2013 19:08:30 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Zinger, we already know, your a tad bit late. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #736 Oct 27, 2013 19:11:44
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Block User Direct Message Ok, so I have a vote on me. Here's the deal. My lynch threshold is currently at 2. Yes two. So I am at L-1. I would prefer people unvoting me until I can explain everything tomorrow. Wife's bday is today. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #738 Oct 27, 2013 19:35:08
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Block User Direct Message As was my welcome it seems. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #739 Oct 27, 2013 23:53:36 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Murica wrote:
FoS: Purphoros FoS: Burning_Earth
You're using your vote on someone who claims to be unlynchable.. and you FoS two lynchable players?
I'm laughing.
Need edeon, EtR, Jedcaj, Shockwave, Freddeh, tmich, PeregrineV, and raganrokio (now LnGrrrR?) to weigh in.
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Block User Direct Message LnGrrrR wrote: Ok, so I have a vote on me. Here's the deal. My lynch threshold is currently at 2. Yes two. So I am at L-1. I would prefer people unvoting me until I can explain everything tomorrow. Wife's bday is today.
Don't want to take the risk if it is only 2, so Unvote, Vote Pdr I guess. Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote:
Murica wrote:
FoS: Purphoros FoS: Burning_Earth
You're using your vote on someone who claims to be unlynchable.. and you FoS two lynchable players?
I'm laughing.
Need edeon, EtR, Jedcaj, Shockwave, Freddeh, tmich, PeregrineV, and raganrokio (now LnGrrrR?) to weigh in.
Yeah, just vote for us if you FOS us, as definitely lynchable players. Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message @LnGrrrR: Welcome to the game! Is there a proper noun we can refer to you as other than LnGrrrR? No offense but it's a bunch of consonants, not exactly a name. I can already imagine confusion later on. That aside, I was waiting a long time for a response from Ragnarokio about the boost offered. I had asked a bunch of questions but after thinking about it I am pretty sure I simply said "I'm in".
@Clinic: I thought it was obvious I was hiding my reasons behind that.
@Everyone: My reason for believing there were at least 6 town aligned players was not the whole truth(in fact far from it). I will reveal my reason eventually(sooner if convinced). Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #743 Oct 28, 2013 3:12:28
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Block User Direct Message Mark, I'm pretty sure it's pronounced "Lingerer", so I just call him LnGr for short. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #744 Oct 28, 2013 3:14:49
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Purphoros wrote:
Murica wrote:
FoS: Purphoros FoS: Burning_Earth
You're using your vote on someone who claims to be unlynchable.. and you FoS two lynchable players?
I'm laughing.
Need edeon, EtR, Jedcaj, Shockwave, Freddeh, tmich, PeregrineV, and raganrokio (now LnGrrrR?) to weigh in.
There is a difference between a vote and a FoS. You FoS people you find scummy, you vote the person you find scummiest. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #745 Oct 28, 2013 7:16:30
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Just for funsies I thought I'd do a checkup and see who was currently breaking the following rules: Zinger209 wrote: 6. Regarding activity levels, all I require is that you make a minimum of one post in the game thread per week. That's it. It is highly recommended that you check back and post every other day or so, but not a requirement. It is not my job to police inactive players, that is YOUR JOB. Police them with your votes. If you don't like them lurking, kill them for it. 7. If you are going to be absent for an entire week (thus violating the above rule), INFORM ME BEFOREHAND of your extended absence. Failure to do so is very BAD, and could result in any number of tragic things happening to you or your character. And guess what I found? Someone who hadn't posted in 11 days.
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Well unvote, vote LnGrrrR.
Welcome to the game. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #747 Oct 28, 2013 8:08:59
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Shockwave07 wrote: Also a quick major events:
Iso/Carnage opens claims unlynchable/Bulletproof. Targets Lordmark with a day kill. He misses for reasons yet unknown. Mod's post and Lordmark's reaction implies hidden ability.
Zokorad claims 1-shot mafia turn ability, looking for willing mafia target. Ahlyis claims mafia, becomes targeted by ability and it fizzles. Flavor post mentions Ahlyis was not the evil Zoko was looking for. Arguments insue whether Ahl was cleared of being scum or not. Ahl claims unlynchable, bulletproof, no-vote.
I die at Carnage's hands according to mod's post (if you don't believe the flavor post, more power to you), but am later somehow swapped with The Unwritten who gets my old dead role while I get his.
Carnage hits 50 flavor kills. Mob votes start to happen.
JayDreven calls for a player enforced deadline, as complaining to the mod only results in Mod penalties like Murica's triple mod vote.
Certain players show capability to use red colored text without penelty: Jedcaj and Seppel. Others like Ahlyis and one forgotten player, will read through and find the other one, take mod chosen penalties for illegal red text usage.
That's about all I have. Though there are other events that I don't have all the details on like the Pdr_br wagon. I have been following along, but I think this post is a good jumping off point to comment on my thoughts.
First and foremost, there has been a lot of speculation on various parts of this game that have been a wide distraction to lots of discussion. I'm not saying we shouldn't speculate, but some people are pursuing trains of logic based on the assumption that these speculations are true. This is not new to players here, but it is definitely something we should strive to avoid in a game this large and confusing.
Iso/Carnage obviously is a threat. I feel like he should be treated like a serial killer in traditional games. He only seems to be interested in staying alive and causing chaos. Usually we can rein in a serial killer by threatening them with a lynch if they don't do what the town says, but if Iso's claims of being unlynchable or whatever are true then this is not possible and we need to figure out another way to rein him in. This should be our first priority, though. Testing Iso's claims of being unlynchable/unkillable.
Ahlyis practically claiming mafia and then claiming unlynchable, bulletproof, and no-vote seems like the second priority on our list of things to test. If we all vote Iso and he doesn't die, then Ahlyis should receive the same treatment. If Ahlyis doesn't die there's no point in continuing hunting him if we can't do anything about him.
I agree with JD that there should be some type of player enforced deadline, but with the speed of this game it would be hard to enforce.
So here is my plan:
1. Everyone vote for Iso. 2. If Iso is still alive, everyone vote Ahlyis. 3. If Ahlyis is still alive, we discuss a third option.
Right now we are wasting time when we have two unconfirmed unlynchable/unkillable roles on our hands. We need to confirm their claims first before we take further action.
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Also don't forget Seppel who also claimed unlynchable and is trying to end the day by lynching LnGrR due to his reduced vote lynch thereshold. Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #749 Oct 28, 2013 8:54:59 (Edited)
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Pdr_Br wrote: Also don't forget Seppel who also claimed unlynchable and is trying to end the day by lynching LnGrR due to his reduced vote lynch thereshold. Yes, anyone who has already claimed unlynchable should be tested before we do anything further. I would say Seppel would fall under number 3 of my plan. Report Comment Allons-y! TOP REPLY QUOTE #750 Oct 28, 2013 10:20:37
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Block User Direct Message @Jed - Your proposed plan is what I have been saying since the beginning of the day, there is no way around it, we just have to test unlynchable claims. One thing I would like to point out however, failing a lynch on them doesn't mean we forget about them as it is possible that they are only immune to the first lynch or we are able to remove unlynchable somehow, though hopefully there would be flavor to hint at that if it were to happen. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #751 Oct 28, 2013 11:12:58 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Seppel, hey! Mind taking the vote off? Don't want a quick hammer.
Ok, so there is a way for me to increase my lynch threshold. If a player chooses to cancel their vote for a day, then my lynch threshold increases by one... And so does the person who agrees to prevent their vote. Each person that agrees to a deal gains this benefit.
Additionally, as Rag noted, there is an additional super awesome one time benefit I can hand out to any player. I won't be using this until I am relatively assured of the towniness of said player.
There are a few other small things to do with the role, but I don't want to divulge those at this time.
In regards to referencing me, you can call me Grr, or LnG. Or anything recognizable really. (It's a semi-phonetic spelling of my last name, which rhymes with anger.)
Given that Seppel is claiming unlynchable, and that I have a mechanic that can increase lynch thresholds, I will be very surprised if we don't have some double voters or other way of balancing it out.
@LordMork, good to know. I want to do a read of the game first, and I will let you know after. I believe I can only try to bargain with one player per Day. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #752 Oct 28, 2013 11:19:45 (Reply to #751)
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Well I can double vote.
As for the vote cancelling thingy, how does the person in question chooses to cancel vote? Do they make a post and say "Hey Zinger cancel my vote for the day" and bem it's done? Also can the same person do it more than once? Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #753 Oct 28, 2013 11:46:26 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Just going to post some thoughts as I read through: this is through post 75.
IsoCarnage targeted LordDaymark, who seems to know a weakness of Carnage. Either townie or Venomy. (Which in this game might be the same thing.) Seems to flavor claim Spidey.
Not liking Edeon's posting early on.
Zinger's notice that not all people can vote (and the subsequent a notice from Ahylia and Iso) mean that trading a vote means more than a "normal" game.
@everyone, can we get a list of voters/non voters going?
Agree that unlynchable claims should be tested.
Curious about the FF claim. A non regular member? Hopefully not HERBIE. Franklin on the other hand...
No idea about who Ahylis, but his ability all but confirms him as town.
------------- Can you vote?
LnGrrrR - No Iso - No Clinic - Yes Tmich - Yes
Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #754 Oct 28, 2013 11:47:49 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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Yes to your second question. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #755 Oct 28, 2013 11:51:28 (Edited)
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Interesting as for who can vote I think Zinger has a post about it here, especially the votelog section. Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #756 Oct 28, 2013 11:55:37 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Pdr, I send a PM to the mod on who to target and the mod offers the deal.
Yes to your second question.
Edit to above: I meant Zokorad is very likely town; Ahylis is likely mafia or anti-town, because either he is honestly claiming scum, or he is wasting a strong town ability which is anti town. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #757 Oct 28, 2013 11:58:39 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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I can vote, but once I start I can never unvote that day. So now that I am voting Iso I cannot unvote. I can only change my vote to someone else. Report Comment Allons-y! TOP REPLY QUOTE #759 Oct 28, 2013 12:06:27 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Guess I will keep posting until I hear one way or another. (If I did edit that post, not quite sure how. This BBS sucks for phone posting.)
From that vote log, looks like it might be easier to list who can't vote: Me Iso ?????
Feel free to fill in, continuing to read. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #760 Oct 28, 2013 12:08:59 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @jed, not sure how that would interact with my ability. And perhaps I didn't edit the post? I am seeing a lot of posts that show (edited) after them... Maybe it's a weird glitch? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #761 Oct 28, 2013 12:40:00
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Block User Direct Message Jedcaj wrote: I can vote, but once I start I can never unvote that day. So now that I am voting Iso I cannot unvote. I can only change my vote to someone else. This is how my vote works as well. However, there is a limit to how much I can change my vote and voting reduces the power of my other abilities. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE Pages « FIRST‹ PREVIOUS…151617181920212223…NEXT ›LAST » Paranoia ParadiseParanoia ParadiseGame ArchiveMAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia [TOWN/GOBLIN VICTORY] Reply Your name Zinger2099 Response * Format
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Block User Direct Message Through post 200... LOL'ing my ass off at Seppel's first post. Inside joke
I find Jed's claim very dubious given my role. He ALSO has a low lynch threshold and can up lynch threshold counts? And as Iso notes, the role also conflicts with his. Weird.
LordMark thinks Iso/Carnage isn't truly unlynchable but has a high lynch count. Given there are two claimed lynch threshold increasers, I wouldn't be surprised if there were double voters AND some form of lynch threshold decreasers.
Weird claim by Ahylia, but inclined to believe him. We should still test the claim though. And that's another non voter. (Tally: Me, Iso, Ahylia)
LordMark is definitely town.
@post 142, Iso, you sure you want the Fierce Deity mask again? At least this time you might not die... (Again, inside joke)
Clinic is town for noticing the same thing I did; asking why Ahylia vol'd for the mafia conversion. Not a fan of Jay answering the question. sidenote: Why is Jay's name blue in vote counts? Confirmed town? Im sure I will get there eventually, just throwing it out now.
I have no clue what role Seppel actually has but it is hilarious.
Rag's first post is... Interesting. I plan on being a bit more involved than he did. If it isn't obvious from his post, I am self-aligned. That said, I usually side with town as a neutral... What that means for this bastard game, no clue. @Lordmark, the picture is related to my role.
Also, I will probably scum hunt a bit, since it seems like there are only 3 or 4 other people doing it... And Carnage has enough killing power as a Daykiller. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #764 Oct 28, 2013 13:03:20 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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Beginning weekend catchup. Responding to posts as I get to them, so some responses might be outdated. *shrugs*
Purphoros wrote: Do you have any purpose to posting in daychat? Of course I do. I'm a part of this game am I not?
Purphoros wrote: If you don't, I'm going to ignore your posts for the rest of the game. Good idea. Ignore another player in the game. Sounds like a winning strategy to me!
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying you should hang on my every word. But just because I don't care whether Mafia or Town wins doen't mean I have nothing useful or constructive to say.
But whatever. You do whatever you want big boy. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #766 Oct 28, 2013 13:21:42
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IsoSTARDUST wrote: My posts will have even less substance than usual due to real life obligations over the next few days. Just a heads-up. Is that actually POSSIBLE?!?! Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #767 Oct 28, 2013 13:29:17
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Shockwave07 wrote: JayDreven calls for a player enforced deadline, as complaining to the mod only results in Mod penalties like Murica's triple mod vote. I'm not sure anyone has realized it or not yet... And since I don't really care whether Town wins or not, perhaps I should stay quiet... But where's the fun in that?...
You guys might want to think about Jay's suggestion, take it to heart AND SHORTEN THE DEADLINE!
If you don't, you're likely just handing the lynch to Iso and his Angry Mob Votes, or at least letting him narrow the pool of lynchees to those he piles votes up on.
Just a thought.
Oh and Purphoros, you should DEFINITELY ignore this post since I have no reason to be posting into chat. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #768 Oct 28, 2013 13:45:49 (Edited)
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Jedcaj wrote: Ahlyis practically claiming mafia and then claiming unlynchable, bulletproof, and no-vote seems like the second priority on our list of things to test. If we all vote Iso and he doesn't die, then Ahlyis should receive the same treatment. If Ahlyis doesn't die there's no point in continuing hunting him if we can't do anything about him.
I agree with JD that there should be some type of player enforced deadline, but with the speed of this game it would be hard to enforce.
So here is my plan:
1. Everyone vote for Iso. 2. If Iso is still alive, everyone vote Ahlyis. 3. If Ahlyis is still alive, we discuss a third option.
Right now we are wasting time when we have two unconfirmed unlynchable/unkillable roles on our hands. We need to confirm their claims first before we take further action.
Vote: Iso This is not new information. Multiple people, myself included have called for lynch tests on Iso, then myself, then Seppel, then whoever is thought scummy.
So far, there has been a decided lack of enthusiasm for the process. But if you can actually get people going on it, awesome! If you cannot, there is some support for both Iso and my own invincibility, mine a bit more solid.
In Iso's case, if he's not invulnerable, he has the dumbest role ever. He's the centerpiece of the game and if he could be killed by a Vig shot right off the bat, it would make for a pretty stupid game. That is of course just my opinion. Feel free to waste your vig shot on him (if you have one).
In my case, we have the red text incident. We now know of at least one player (or was it two?) that CAN be lynched as the Mod reduced their Lynch threshold after they posted in Red. After I posted in red (thinking that the lynch threshold was the penalty), the Mod outright stated that the penalty is based upon your role. He chose a different penalty for me. Why? Because I'm unkillable... or at the very least unlynchable (feel free to waste your Vig shot on me if you don't want to waste it on Iso).
It still would be more conclusive to actually try to lynch Iso, myself and Seppel. But yours is just the latest in a long line of calls for our lynches... all of which have met with indifference so far.
Be sure to pursue this long enough for the Angry Mob votes to make the decision of who to lynch for you. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #769 Oct 28, 2013 13:48:45
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LnGrrrR wrote: Ok, so there is a way for me to increase my lynch threshold. If a player chooses to cancel their vote for a day, then my lynch threshold increases by one... And so does the person who agrees to prevent their vote. Each person that agrees to a deal gains this benefit.
Yes, let's ENSURE that there's not enough voters to have anything other than the Angry Mob determine the lynch!
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I'm holding my vote (note: double vote) on Iso until everyone votes Iso or Iso is dead. If he doesn't die, my vote will change to Ahlyis under the same conditions. Then to Seppel. I don't care if this takes months to confirm, it is the most thorough and complete approach to these claims in a game this large. We need confirmed information. The mod designed the game with no deadline. If it takes months to confirm this information, so be it. Report Comment Allons-y! TOP REPLY QUOTE #771 Oct 28, 2013 13:52:16 (Reply to #769) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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You got me. But I had to post my info before I got lynched.
And as noted while catching up, with all the unlynchables and lynch threshold increasers, I am wondering what balances that out. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #772 Oct 28, 2013 13:53:13
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LnGrrrR wrote: No idea about who Ahylis, but his ability all but confirms him as town. Uh, I'm not Town.
I would say that my ability confirms me as not Mafia (as unkillable Mafia is pretty broken). Also Zokorad's ability confirms me as not Mafia (unless you agree with the conspiracy theorists), while also confirming me as not Town (I am still evil in some manner, just not the "right" evil for Zoko's ability.)
But really, nothing more than my claim of Not Town sohuld be necessary as it is a very unusual role indeed that would be Town yet claim otherwise. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #773 Oct 28, 2013 13:53:39 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Oh and I am checking with the mod to see if the person I offer the deal to has to have a vote.
for instance, if I offered the deal to you hylia, it would be good for me and null for you (since you can't vote and can't be lynched anyways). Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #774 Oct 28, 2013 13:55:25 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Ahylis, I meant Zokorad, and had you as mafia, but I am willing to believe you for now.
Interesting that you semi confirmed you were some form of evil though. Back to catching up... Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #775 Oct 28, 2013 14:04:34 (Edited)
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Jedcaj wrote: I'm holding my vote (note: double vote) on Iso until everyone votes Iso or Iso is dead. If he doesn't die, my vote will change to Ahlyis under the same conditions. Then to Seppel. I don't care if this takes months to confirm, it is the most thorough and complete approach to these claims in a game this large. We need confirmed information. The mod designed the game with no deadline. If it takes months to confirm this information, so be it. Great idea. Instead of helping Town control the lynch, you can help Iso control the lynch.
I really hope you aren't the wishy washy type who will change his convictions. Stick to your guns. Insist on voting nobody but Iso or myself until the game ends! Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #776 Oct 28, 2013 14:09:31 (Edited) Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote: Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying you should hang on my every word. But just because I don't care whether Mafia or Town wins doen't mean I have nothing useful or constructive to say.
If your intent to posting in daychat is to cause chaos and belittle people then I have no problem ignoring you.
Zinger2099 wrote:
Super-Awesome-Tripple-Mod-Vote: Freddeh-scum
Given that this guy is the highest on the list then this is very good sir.
LnGrrrR wrote:
LnGrrrR - No Iso - No Clinic - Yes Tmich - Yes
Can you attempt to vote?
Same goes for IsoSTARDUST as well; I'm used to people having a voting restriction not showing up as "Not Voting" on vote counts.
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Purphoros wrote:
Murica wrote:
FoS: Purphoros FoS: Burning_Earth
You're using your vote on someone who claims to be unlynchable.. and you FoS two lynchable players?
I'm laughing.
Need edeon, EtR, Jedcaj, Shockwave, Freddeh, tmich, PeregrineV, and raganrokio (now LnGrrrR?) to weigh in.
There is a difference between a vote and a FoS. You FoS people you find scummy, you vote the person you find scummiest.
You ensure that your vote, your only tool as town (if you actually are town, which I doubt) goes to the gallows while you have something that barely resembles pressure on burning_earth and I.
Cue laughter.
LnGrrrR wrote: Rag's first post is... Interesting. I plan on being a bit more involved than he did. If it isn't obvious from his post, I am self-aligned. That said, I usually side with town as a neutral... What that means for this bastard game, no clue. @Lordmark, the picture is related to my role.
If you are self-aligned, what is your win condition?
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Ahlyis wrote:
Jedcaj wrote: I'm holding my vote (note: double vote) on Iso until everyone votes Iso or Iso is dead. If he doesn't die, my vote will change to Ahlyis under the same conditions. Then to Seppel. I don't care if this takes months to confirm, it is the most thorough and complete approach to these claims in a game this large. We need confirmed information. The mod designed the game with no deadline. If it takes months to confirm this information, so be it.
Great idea. Instead of helping Town control the lynch, you can help Iso control the lynch.
I really hope you aren't the wishy washy type who will change his convictions. Stick to your guns. Insist on voting nobody but Iso or myself until the game ends! Non-game related post:
It's posts like these that make me wish you did give up mafia when things turned south. Since I came back you have been a pain in the ass to play with or watch play. You have become a troll and an all around ****. I wish you could at least show some decency and tact with your posts, but you seem to have lost that part of you. It's sad. Frankly, I hope you turn your attitude around and realize that this community is on its last leg and posts like yours are very discouraging for not only new players but for returning players. This is a game after all and there is no reason for you to talk to people and treat people the way you do. We are here for fun, not to be mocked and trolled.
You will probably reply to this post mocking and trolling me yet again, because I don't expect you to retain the weight of my concerns and frustrations. But I hope you come to realize what a cancer the behavior you exhibit is and that you remedy it before it consumes you. Report Comment Allons-y! TOP REPLY QUOTE #778 Oct 28, 2013 14:19:20 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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If anyone wants me to look at Ahylis's posts then they will have to quote them, because I'm fine ignoring a neutral who doesn't care whether town or mafia wins and is posting only to post. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #779 Oct 28, 2013 14:22:35 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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Sure, I can try to vote.
Vote Iso
Ok, so I am strictly a Survivor. My wincon is just to last until the end of the game. Why? Because I want to entertain everyone.
As far as helping town, just offering a deal and never posting seems to defeat the purpose of playing.
And I confirmed with mod, if I make a deal with someone without votes it still counts.
Now, catchups through post 400...
There are actually quite a few solid town players: LordMark, Clinic and Tmich.
Nice flavor on the kill Iso. (Pun intended.)
BE's post 256 reeks of scumminess.
oh cool, Peregrine is town. (Man the online mafia communities are insular lol)
Now I know what Ahl is talking about with the Angry Mob votes.
Nice Green Jelly shootout Iso.
Seppel's claim... Is there anyone that can be lynched besides me this game?
Purphuros, what made you think Clinic was scum?
I liked Jay's speculation about Carnage and allies. Sounded very towny.
Disappearing the cow? I have no idea what that is about, unless Seppel is Earthworm Jim. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #780 Oct 28, 2013 14:23:58
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LnGrrrR wrote: Oh and I am checking with the mod to see if the person I offer the deal to has to have a vote.
for instance, if I offered the deal to you hylia, it would be good for me and null for you (since you can't vote and can't be lynched anyways). Uh, sure. I'm fine with that. If the Mod says it will work, go ahead and make me the offer.
LnGrrrR wrote: @Ahylis, I meant Zokorad, and had you as mafia, but I am willing to believe you for now.
Interesting that you semi confirmed you were some form of evil though. Back to catching up... I "confirmed" that long ago, and frankly you should have seen it already since you've obviously gotten past where I convinced Zoko to waste his ability on me.
To recap my role for you, as much as I've claimed so far anyway: - I don't have an alignment. None at all. Speculation is that there are at least 2 possible alignments for me when I die/leave the game, likely depending on whether I've met my wincons or not. - I have multiple wincons that need to be met. I haven't specified exactly how many I have or how many I need to meet in order to win. - These wincons are based on other players roles and conditions there. I originally said they are out of my hands, which is true in a sense in that none of them are strictly up to me to meet, they all require another player to meet some condition. But it's not really accurate to say that I can do nothing to influence them. - I have a ton of abilities. A TON! Many of them are unclear in their function, though I expect that their purpose/use will become clear(er) as I use others of my abilities. Several of these I expect/hope to be able to use to help further my wincons. - I am most likely considered evil because some of my wincons involve having non-Town players meet certain conditions beneficial to them... and bad for Town. The reverse is also true. If there were a test for "good", I would most likely show up as good as well. I say most likely because I am only speculating on why I am listed as "evil". It's possible there is some other reason, though if there is it is hidden from me. - While I may be considered evil, I am NOT a threat to Town. I can definitely win with Town. I can win with Mafia as well. In fact, I'm pretty sure I can win before either Town or Mafia does. (I suspect I will leave the game at such time, though my role PM does not say.) - I cannot be killed, except by Modkill, which NOBODY is immune to. - I cannot vote. Which seems fair since I cannot be killed either.
One additional piece that was revealed - I have a limited use ability with at least 3 total uses confirmed by the Mod. It was also confirmed by the mod that I tried to use it once already when he informed me, in thread, that I lost an additional use of that ability for posting in Red. I have claimed that my initial use "fizzled" and had no effect, though there is only my word for that. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #781 Oct 28, 2013 14:26:15
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Purphoros wrote: If your intent to posting in daychat is to cause chaos and belittle people then I have no problem ignoring you. And that's the only thing you get from any of my posts?
Um, okay. Whatever. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #782 Oct 28, 2013 14:26:43 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message LnGrrrR wrote: Purphuros, what made you think Clinic was scum?
I thought Clinic's vote was overexplanatory, but I haven't been paying much attention to his recent posts. I'll take a look if I have time.
Also, you should bold and color the vote. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #783 Oct 28, 2013 14:27:20 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Right now, my two choices for offering a deal are:
Ahlyia - Since Ahlyia has no vote, and can't be lynched, there is no reason why Ahl shouldn't take the deal unless he distrusts me or doesn't want to for some reason. The good side to this is that it doesn't take away votes from town.
LordMark - One of my towniest reads; increasing his lynch threshold makes sense. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #784 Oct 28, 2013 14:35:01 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message What are the color/bold tags?
@Ahl, do I have your word that you won't renege on the deal? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #785 Oct 28, 2013 14:39:41 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message LnGrrrR wrote: What are the color/bold tags?
@Ahl, do I have your word that you won't renege on the deal?
Bold tags are usual bold tags. [.b][./b]
Remove the periods, of course.
I usually quote something that has the color blue in it and use that as my vote, since I can't figure out where in the world color tags are.
Plus, blue is a "safe" color. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #786 Oct 28, 2013 14:40:35
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Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote: If you don't, you're likely just handing the lynch to Iso and his Angry Mob Votes, or at least letting him narrow the pool of lynchees to those he piles votes up on. Interesting. There has been nothing that I am aware of in the game that has indicated the mob votes are attributable to Iso. In fact there was just some discussion about the randomness of those votes. You say this as if it's common knowledge though. Do you know something about the angry mob votes that we don't? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #787 Oct 28, 2013 14:44:47 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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and if that doesn't work then just
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Jedcaj wrote: It's posts like these that make me wish you did give up mafia when things turned south. Since I came back you have been a pain in the ass to play with or watch play. You have become a troll and an all around ****. Bullcrap. You and I have butted heads for as long as we both have been playing. Don't try to push this off as something new between us or some new facet of my behavior that only recently developed!
Jedcaj wrote: I wish you could at least show some decency and tact with your posts, but you seem to have lost that part of you. It's sad. Yep, you're right. Not a single one of my posts has shown any decency or tact to anyone this entire game.
Jedcaj wrote: Frankly, I hope you turn your attitude around and realize that this community is on its last leg and posts like yours are very discouraging for not only new players but for returning players. This is a game after all and there is no reason for you to talk to people and treat people the way you do. We are here for fun, not to be mocked and trolled. Your problem is that you take things WAAAAY too seriously.
For one thing, my role ENCOURAGES me to troll! Honestly, I think I've done a pretty damn good job of NOT being nothing but a troll this entire game. I've actually tried to point out what I see as scummy. I have tried to help clarify things and answer questions when they have been posed to me. I even pointed out just WHY the Mod has no deadline to the day, something nobody else (except probably Iso) seems to have realized.
But when you continue to post ideas that I find ridiculous, right after I just explained why they are ridiculous, well, I don't understand why you expected anything other than a sarcastic response from me!
And yes, continuing to promote that you won't work with everyone else and will insist on using your vote in exactly one way until/unless everyone else bends to your will... when I just got through pointing out that doing anything like that is handing the lynch to Iso... well, I see that as the very definition of ridiculous.
Jedcaj wrote: You will probably reply to this post mocking and trolling me yet again, because I don't expect you to retain the weight of my concerns and frustrations. Respect is a two way street and you haven't ever shown me any either, so why should I give a damn what you think?
That's a serious response.
Or would you care to try to argue that your explosion over my self vote in our last game showed even one ounce of respect or trying to see my side of things? (I recommend you not even go there, but if you really want to, we can probably create a thread elsewhere to flame each other even more rather than derail this thread even further.)
Jedcaj wrote: But I hope you come to realize what a cancer the behavior you exhibit is and that you remedy it before it consumes you. My attitudes haven't changed, at all.
On the other hand, if you honestly feel that my last post was out of line, then I apologize.
It wasn't intended as a troll. It was intended to point out that your stated course of action does nothing except help turn control of the lynch over to Iso. It was sarcastic in the extreme because I had just gotten through explaining what the potential problem was with the Angry Mob votes and here you were proposing something designed to exacerbate that problem. So yes, I was extremely mocking and sarcastic. But the purpose wasn't to troll you.
So I do sincerely apologize if you felt that trolling you was the only purpose of that post. Please read it again and try to get past the sarcasm to consider the content and the issue I was trying to point out. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #789 Oct 28, 2013 14:57:41 (Edited)
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LnGrrrR wrote: @Ahl, do I have your word that you won't renege on the deal? I don't generally give my word on something around here unless I feel it is really important. One of my standing tenets here is that I have never once broken my word once given. I will lie when necessary, though I do try to avoid it most of the time. But if I give my word on something, I stick to it.
So normally, I would not give my word here. But this is a small enough issue and might help to restore some goodwill around here, so yes, for Day 1 only, I give my word that if you make the offer to me as it has been claimed, I will accept. I make no promises for future days, but for today I will give up my non-existent vote to increase your lynch threshold.
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Block User Direct Message Fair enough Ahl. As a reminder, the one cheat-code put out in the open so far is the ability to use all active abilities, so it might benefit you to accept anyways.
I will send the request to you. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #791 Oct 28, 2013 15:04:18
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Ahlyis wrote: If you don't, you're likely just handing the lynch to Iso and his Angry Mob Votes, or at least letting him narrow the pool of lynchees to those he piles votes up on. Interesting. There has been nothing that I am aware of in the game that has indicated the mob votes are attributable to Iso. In fact there was just some discussion about the randomness of those votes. You say this as if it's common knowledge though. Do you know something about the angry mob votes that we don't? It's just an assumption on my part. The Angry Mob votes showed up after he reached the 50 kill mark. By name, you would think they aren't being controlled by him, but then, what was the benefit to him to create the kills to get them started?
I am assuming that he has some control over them, though it is just an assumption.
Whether he controls them or not is irrelevant to the problem they present for Town though. As they keep piling up, they will limit the choices Town has for who to Lynch. LnGrrrR wrote: Vote Iso That usually happens when you don't properly nest the tags. You likely had the Bold tag first and the Color tag second at both the open and close tags. The Bold tag should have been after the Color tag in one location and before it in the other. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #792 Oct 28, 2013 15:10:17 (Edited)
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LnGrrrR wrote: Fair enough Ahl. As a reminder, the one cheat-code put out in the open so far is the ability to use all active abilities, so it might benefit you to accept anyways.
I will send the request to you. Oh God, is that all-abilities-usable part of this?
What a mess that could be. I'm not sure I dare take advantage of it even if you do give it to me. Too many of my abilities are unknown effect. I was expecting to have time to use some and learn about the others.
Well, it might make for an interesting section of the Day. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #793 Oct 28, 2013 15:18:17 (Edited)
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Odd thought. I just noticed in Lngr's claim that the person accepting his ability has their lynch threshold increased as well. I wonder how that will show in the Mods comments (assuming there are any) if the person accepting doesn't have a lynch threshold at all. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #794 Oct 28, 2013 15:22:16
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Block User Direct Message I promise that under no circumstance will I refuse your offer LnGr Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #795 Oct 28, 2013 15:27:02 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Ahlyis, yes the "able to use all active abilities" is one of the three things I can offer. This is just a normal "block vote and both raise lynch threshold" request though.
And interestingly enough, survival is my "personal motivation"... Entertainment is my win con. Not sure if granting you the ability to use all your abilities at once would qualify.
One way or another, I don't think I will be handing out any ability toDay. Maybe toMorrow, let's see how it goes.
And I don't know if it will even show up on a Votecount... I guess we will see. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #796 Oct 28, 2013 15:32:10 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Zokorad, I already sent the deal to Ahl.
However, I do technically have a Night ability to, which is similar to my Day offer. Instead of having your vote removed though, you are roleblocked that Night, and it increases my lynch threshold by 2. As with the Day offer, it will increase the person who agrees to the deal by 1.
@Zokorad, if you have no night abilities and want to increase your lynch threshold, feel free to let me know.
Another note: I can't offer any cheat code ability to anyone that hasn't accepted an offer from me previously. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #797 Oct 28, 2013 15:32:41
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Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote: IsoSTARDUST wrote: My posts will have even less substance than usual due to real life obligations over the next few days. Just a heads-up.
Is that actually POSSIBLE?!?!
yes
also lolseppel
Ahlyis wrote: LnGrrrR wrote: Ok, so there is a way for me to increase my lynch threshold. If a player chooses to cancel their vote for a day, then my lynch threshold increases by one... And so does the person who agrees to prevent their vote. Each person that agrees to a deal gains this benefit.
Yes, let's ENSURE that there's not enough voters to have anything other than the Angry Mob determine the lynch!
I like this plan. Let's do it.
Also, LnGr, I thought you said you were content to ignore Neutrals who didn't care if town or scum won? So why are you voting me? Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #798 Oct 28, 2013 15:35:13 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote:
Arioch22 wrote:
Ahlyis wrote: If you don't, you're likely just handing the lynch to Iso and his Angry Mob Votes, or at least letting him narrow the pool of lynchees to those he piles votes up on. Interesting. There has been nothing that I am aware of in the game that has indicated the mob votes are attributable to Iso. In fact there was just some discussion about the randomness of those votes. You say this as if it's common knowledge though. Do you know something about the angry mob votes that we don't? It's just an assumption on my part. The Angry Mob votes showed up after he reached the 50 kill mark. By name, you would think they aren't being controlled by him, but then, what was the benefit to him to create the kills to get them started?
I am assuming that he has some control over them, though it is just an assumption.
Whether he controls them or not is irrelevant to the problem they present for Town though. As they keep piling up, they will limit the choices Town has for who to Lynch. OK. Well thanks for clarifying. To me it just always seemed like a flavorful way to have a deadline to the day without actually having a deadline. I don't really think Iso has anything to do with them other than his flavor kill posts are what started it.
However, I disagree that it limits Town choices. It makes people with high, possibly unreachable by normal means, thresholds actually lynchable. If I remember when you and Seppel were discussing the difference in your unlynchable claims that his was because his threshold was too high, but maybe if he accrues 10 angry mob votes, it won't be as far out of reach as it seems. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #799 Oct 28, 2013 15:42:37 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Iso, I am only voting you to prove I don't have a vote. If it makes you feel better...
Unvote Iso
Vote Seppel
In fact, now that I have read that my wincon is technically entertainment, taking you out would be a bad thing. At least, I think you have been entertaining
'That said, I will still try to figure out the game state/scum hunt because otherwise I wouldn't be entertained. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #800 Oct 28, 2013 15:42:47
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Arioch22 wrote: However, I disagree that it limits Town choices. It makes people with high, possibly unreachable by normal means, thresholds actually lynchable. If I remember when you and Seppel were discussing the difference in your unlynchable claims that his was because his threshold was too high, but maybe if he accrues 10 angry mob votes, it won't be as far out of reach as it seems. And if they are random like you seem to think, what are the odds of Seppel acquiring 10 of them before Lngr acquires 2? Or someone else with a low lynch threshold acquiring too many? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #801 Oct 28, 2013 15:47:37 (Edited)
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I just got the message from the Mod (well, he sent it 20 minutes ago, but with no notification visible, I only just saw it).
I gotta say, it was an interesting offer I was given. In fact, if it weren't for Lngr's claim, I wouldn't have any idea what to expect as the result of accepting the offer. In fact, I wouldn't even have known it was an offer, only that the Mod was presenting me with a "choice" to make! Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE Pages « FIRST‹ PREVIOUS…161718192021222324…NEXT ›LAST » Paranoia ParadiseParanoia ParadiseGame ArchiveMAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia [TOWN/GOBLIN VICTORY] Reply Your name Zinger2099 Response * Format
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Block User Direct Message Why did you do this? You know he's evil, he admits it! You said you would only give that deal to town and I've been waiting for it for well over a week! Had Rag not been inactive he may have already sent me an offer a long time ago. Question; does that vote removal offer last forever? Would players never get their vote back?
I'll take that night roleblock deal. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #803 Oct 28, 2013 15:51:08
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Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote:
Arioch22 wrote: However, I disagree that it limits Town choices. It makes people with high, possibly unreachable by normal means, thresholds actually lynchable. If I remember when you and Seppel were discussing the difference in your unlynchable claims that his was because his threshold was too high, but maybe if he accrues 10 angry mob votes, it won't be as far out of reach as it seems.
And if they are random like you seem to think, what are the odds of Seppel acquiring 10 of them before Lngr acquires 2? Or someone else with a low lynch threshold acquiring too many? Very unlikely. However, you said more mob votes that pile up limits the choices for who town can lynch, and that is actually the opposite. The mob votes can only make people easier to lynch, thereby increasing the options town has. Say only 15 votes are currently in the game and someone has a threshold of 16, a mob vote on that person makes them lynchable and has raised the options town has. That's what I was getting at with the Seppel example though admittedly I did a poor job of conveying my meaning looking back at it.
As for the randomness, I am not necessarily subscribed to the idea that they are entirely random, but I honestly don't think Iso controls them in any way. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #804 Oct 28, 2013 16:02:06
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Block User Direct Message EBWOP: @LnGr: I would have accepted any deal as long as I could get that speedhack. It might be vital to my role but I won't know that until I have it. I am also very concerned that you are helping a confirmed evil-doer. His alignment may not be mafia but it's certainly less than town. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #805 Oct 28, 2013 16:06:00 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Lord, because two things:
1) Votes seem to be at a premium. You are a strong town read and I want you to have your vote.
2) I couldn't give you the one time thing cheat now anyways, due to needing to complete a prior deal first.
3) The vote removal and roleblock only last for that respective Day/Night.
4) As noted, I plan to be slightly more active. Rag didnt seem to care about this game, so I don't think he cared about the ramifications of his role. I do.
5) I can't make the Night deal until Night.
6) Ahylis has accepted the deal, living up to his word. Thank you for playing! Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #806 Oct 28, 2013 16:07:26 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Lord, additionally, I am not "helping" Ahlyis, as the only benefit he gets from accepting this deal is an increased lynch threshold which is useless to him. (Of course, there was no drawback to the deal for him either.) Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #807 Oct 28, 2013 16:11:23 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Ahly, if you don't mind, could you paraphrase the PM? Your call if you want to keep it a secret; Im just curious, and heck it might illuminate some hidden ability/rule etc. Never know. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #808 Oct 28, 2013 16:15:22
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Block User Direct Message Oh god i have no idea whats going on in this game anymore. Work+School+These forums suck+everyone claiming unlynchable = Not a whole lot of time or care to dive into it yet.
Just skimmed the last 300 posts (since i've last read the thread), so it looks like now i have 4 mob votes (lol), and I am getting flak for a vote on Pdr that I don't even remember why I made. It was probably a gut reaction to 1-2 posts he made, I remember voting for Iso for most of the rest of the day just to test carnage.
I don't have the slightest who is scummy right now, or what scum even entails in this rediculous game where the mod is almost as much of a player as the players are >_>. Report Comment Mafia History (Most Fun and/or Favorites listed) TOP REPLY QUOTE #809 Oct 28, 2013 16:16:51 (Edited) (Reply to #805)
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Block User Direct Message 1) But I've already stated that I cannot vote for today!
2) I would have waited as long as it took, it's that important.
3) I would have taken any offer anyway, but good to know.
5) I can wait. Just don't pick someone else, please and thank you.
6) If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't give him any cheats until it can be confirmed he won't use his abilities for evil(good luck with that). Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #810 Oct 28, 2013 16:30:28 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Lord,
I can only give the cheat out once. It consists of three different abilities; once I give the person the cheat, they get to pick from those 3.
Also, I believe you said you couldn't vote YET, not that you couldn't vote today.
I am fine with sending you the Night deal toNight.
Given that my wincon is to make things entertaining, would giving you a "use all abilities" powerup qualify as entertaining? Simple yes or no is fine. It's my one big cool thing I get to do this game, I would rather not waste it. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #811 Oct 28, 2013 16:41:07 (Edited) (Reply to #810)
LordMark Joined Feb 2011 322 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Yes I did say that, but I was trying to not give out too much information. It's no big deal though.
In terms of how entertaining it would be to have the cheat available, to me I think it would certainly make things a lot more interesting. Zinger specifically told me that I should go for it because it suits my role. I didn't need to be told that, I just wasn't sure about any negative consequences at the time. Though I can't say how entertained others would be if you chose me for the cheat, I can say it would be very entertaining for me as well as a great help to town. I would also be able to help you in other aspects as well, but I can't specify how just yet. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #812 Oct 28, 2013 17:45:55
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Arioch22 wrote: Very unlikely. However, you said more mob votes that pile up limits the choices for who town can lynch, and that is actually the opposite. The mob votes can only make people easier to lynch Wrong!
The mob votes only make the people that have them easier to lynch. If the mob votes are only being spread among 4 or 5 players, then those 4or 5 players become easier to lynch, but everyone else effectively becomes harder. Note that I said "effectively". I know the non-voted don't have their threshold raised, but compared to theose receiving Mob Votes, they become much harder to lynch. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #813 Oct 28, 2013 17:49:06
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LordMark wrote: Why did you do this? You know he's evil, he admits it! You said you would only give that deal to town and I've been waiting for it for well over a week! Had Rag not been inactive he may have already sent me an offer a long time ago. Question; does that vote removal offer last forever? Would players never get their vote back?
I'll take that night roleblock deal. What is it that you are so worried about?
If I am so thoroughly evil as you seem to think, then isn't it a GOOD thing for me to lose any Vote I might possess? He already stated that the do-everything ability is not directly tied to this. So what is the problem? Jealousy? You're mad because you didn't get to have your vote taken away?
Honestly, I don't understand the issue here, even if I were Mafia, or a Serial Killer or some other kind of "threat to Town". Wouldn't it still be good to take my Vote away? (Assuming I had a Vote to lose anyway.) Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #814 Oct 28, 2013 17:51:26 (Edited)
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LordMark wrote: I am also very concerned that you are helping a confirmed evil-doer. His alignment may not be mafia but it's certainly less than town. I'm confused. Just what benefit do you think I got from accepting this deal?
There are potential benefits down the road if he were to use additional abilities on me, but I'm failing to see what benefit I got out of this deal. How was I helped by this? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #815 Oct 28, 2013 17:58:16
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LordMark wrote: 6) If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't give him any cheats until it can be confirmed he won't use his abilities for evil(good luck with that). Since he is Self aligned, not Town aligned, I would think he would want me to promise, if he gave me the cheat, that I wouldn't use it to his detriment. Why should he care about Town's or Mafia's detriment? I certainly wouldn't promise not to use my abilities to try to further my wincon, which is what you would be asking me to promise. I would be willing to promise not to use them to knowingly harm him or his wincon in any way. Since I don't know what some of my abilities do, I could only promise not to do anything that seemed remotely likely to be detrimental to him.
Not that I think it matters anyway. I don't think he is likely to offer me the cheats anyway. I didn't accept his deal because I expected benefits. I accepted it because I saw no downside to myself while upside to helping him. I have no reason I know of to wish him harm, so why not help him? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #816 Oct 28, 2013 17:58:38 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message @Ahlyis: I can't take you at your word for anything knowing that you have a darker alignment. Even if you had no vote to lose, you may have had one of your missions accomplished by the deal in some manner. Mostly I was worried that somehow you would get him to give you a cheat later on. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #817 Oct 28, 2013 18:01:55 (Edited)
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LnGrrrR wrote: @Ahly, if you don't mind, could you paraphrase the PM? Your call if you want to keep it a secret; Im just curious, and heck it might illuminate some hidden ability/rule etc. Never know. It didn't mention you or anything about being player inspired.
It basically just said I'd found an old game system with a game related to this game and asked if I wanted to sit down and play with it for a while. It also said something flippant about what is the worst that could happen? Forgetting to vote is "the worst" happening, or so I assume. How that equates to an increased lynch threshold for either of us is unclear to me. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #818 Oct 28, 2013 18:07:02
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Block User Direct Message I see a lot of people calling Mark obv town, but frankly his insistance on getting a hold of super charger ability thingy seems more scummy to me. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #819 Oct 28, 2013 18:11:54
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LordMark wrote: @Ahlyis: I can't take you at your word for anything knowing that you have a darker alignment. Even if you had no vote to lose, you may have had one of your missions accomplished by the deal in some manner. And if I did? So what?
Does me meeting a wincon that has absolutely ZERO effect on anyone or any other alignment really bother you so much? Wouldn't you prefer that I meet as many wincons that DON'T hurt Town as I possibly can, perhaps even winning and leaving the game without ever having to do something detrimental to Town?
Why do you prefer that I have to keep working on other wincons that very well might be detrimental to Town (or Mafia) instead of possibly meeting one that hurts nobody?
I cannot die (short of Modkill). I have no intention of abandoning my attempt to meet enough wincons to Win. If I have an easy to meet Wincon that hurts nobody, I would think you would be HAPPY that I got that one. I wouldn't expect you to be crying about it!
All that said, I am neither confirming nor denying that it had any effect on any of my wincons. I'm merely wondering why LordMark seems to have a problem with the scenario where I did.
LordMark wrote: Mostly I was worried that somehow you would get him to give you a cheat later on. Now THAT I can understand... from YOUR perspective. But given that his claimed alignment differs from your supposed Town alignment, I wonder why you seem to think he should care so much about how you feel about it. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #820 Oct 28, 2013 18:12:59 (Edited) (Reply to #818)
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Block User Direct Message Maybe it's just me but I thought the benefits would be a great help to anyone. The reason I want it so badly has something to do with my voting restriction. More votes = more power to town, wouldn't you agree? Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #821 Oct 28, 2013 18:20:34 (Edited)
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LordMark wrote: More votes = more power to town, wouldn't you agree? Not at all.
I fail to see how increasing the number of votes available by 15 (for example) helps Town at all if those 15 votes are all Mafia controlled!
I'm starting to agree with Jay here. You seem awfully confident that we should all just accept that you are Town. the only thing I remember that has been put forth for your "Townliness" is how you stood up to Iso/Carnage.
Pardon me, but why does that make you Town again? Iso is very doubtfully Mafia. I just cannot see it. So why would a role designed to counter him, or at least to be able to mouth off to him with impunity, have to be Town? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #822 Oct 28, 2013 18:29:27 (Reply to #819)
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Block User Direct Message That's the problem. We don't know what effects anything has until it's too late. You don't know everything, either. That should worry you as well, but it doesn't apparently. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #823 Oct 28, 2013 18:41:11
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LordMark wrote: That's the problem. We don't know what effects anything has until it's too late. You don't know everything, either. That should worry you as well, but it doesn't apparently. What is that in response to? Who is it directed at?
I can't make any sense of it if it was intended to be a response to my post right before it. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #824 Oct 28, 2013 18:41:36 (Edited) (Reply to #821)
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Block User Direct Message Wow, really? What makes you think that I'm trying to convince anyone that I'm town? I'm only trying to help the game progress. Iwon't be claiming anything until a few days have passed in game. The fun I had poking at carnage had nothing to do with anything. Also, I totally agree with you on your first point. The cheat that I want does not give me extra votes, it just removes a restriction on the one I have. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #825 Oct 28, 2013 18:42:24 (Reply to #823)
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Block User Direct Message Perhaps you should utilize the purple link above each post that is a reply. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #826 Oct 28, 2013 18:46:09
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LordMark wrote: Perhaps you should utilize the purple link above each post that is a reply. Perhaps you should use Quotes instead of relying on purple ink that has been shown in the past to be inaccurate (and isn't all that visible in the first place).
*shrugs* Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #827 Oct 28, 2013 18:48:34 (Edited)
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LordMark wrote: Perhaps you should utilize the purple link above each post that is a reply. Furthermore, even knowing which post that was a response to now STILL doesn't make it clear. My post at #819 was decently sized with 2 separate sections, neither of which seems an obvious link to your response. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #828 Oct 28, 2013 18:51:12
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LordMark wrote: Wow, really? What makes you think that I'm trying to convince anyone that I'm town? So, your argument is that "The reason I want it so badly has something to do with my voting restriction. More votes = more power to town, wouldn't you agree?" is not an attempt by you to insinuate that you are Town?
Seriously?
Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #829 Oct 28, 2013 18:55:29 (Reply to #826)
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Block User Direct Message Everyone else seems to be getting it just fine except Iso and you. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #830 Oct 28, 2013 18:57:30 (Reply to #828)
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Block User Direct Message I have no need to insinuate anything. It's not up to me to convince people that I am one alignment or another. I do my best to fulfill my role and that's all I can do. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #831 Oct 28, 2013 19:18:25 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @LordMark, that whole "what makes you think Im tryin to convince anyone I am town" sets off all types of scumdar pings for me.
re: the cheat, I think I will be waiting until the beginning of D3 to hand it out. I will reveal the second cheat beginning of D2 and the third cheat the beginning of D3. Then I will try to get some discussion going and likely hand out the ability that Day.
I think it would be nice to get some flips first, plus I will likely request some claim info to see exactly what someone would do with the power. I don't want that info NOW, as that would likely a) gimp town and b) make things less entertaining.
But by D3, I think some form of claiming will be en vogue anyways, so the timeline makes sense in my head. For those of you following at home, if you assume that I make a deal with a different person each time (which isn't assured), then the max amount of people that have a chance at the cheat code would be 5 people if I hand out the cheat code before the end of D3. (3 Days and 2 Nights)
@Ahl, pretty cool, thanks for the info. Not sure about the flavor myself (didnt get any from my side) but maybe it is something like knowledge of the game/participants/etc makes you harder to lynch. Knowledge is power and all that. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #832 Oct 28, 2013 19:26:31 (Edited)
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LnGrrrR wrote: But by D3, I think some form of claiming will be en vogue anyways, so the timeline makes sense in my head. For those of you following at home, if you assume that I make a deal with a different person each time (which isn't assured), then the max amount of people that have a chance at the cheat code would be 5 people if I hand out the cheat code before the end of D3. (3 Days and 2 Nights) Why only 5?
Does your ability specify only Day or Night? My understanding is that most Active abilities that are specific to Day or Night will also function in one of Dawn or Dusk, as a separate instance of the ability. MEaning you should be able to get 4 people per Day/Night cycle instead of just 2. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #833 Oct 28, 2013 19:30:49 (Edited)
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LordMark wrote: I have no need to insinuate anything. It's not up to me to convince people that I am one alignment or another. I do my best to fulfill my role and that's all I can do. Oh, I'm sorry. I was under the impression that you actually had some experience. I didn't realize you were just starting out.
Don't worry about it then. Versatility will come with experience. Eventually you'll even learn how to scumhunt, debate the validity of other's arguments and a whole slew of Mafia related things that aren't solely about your role!
Give it time.
*This post should only be considered insulting if you AREN'T a new player. But in that case, you've already insulted all of our intelligence by trying to play the naive card. *shrugs* Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #834 Oct 28, 2013 19:31:15 (Edited) (Reply to #831)
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Block User Direct Message @LnGr: I just don't think I should give away the only real secret I have(that is to say my role). If you absolutely need me to reveal some of my abilities before you decide I'm worthy of a cheat, I have no quarrel with that. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #835 Oct 28, 2013 19:34:35
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Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote:
LnGrrrR wrote: But by D3, I think some form of claiming will be en vogue anyways, so the timeline makes sense in my head. For those of you following at home, if you assume that I make a deal with a different person each time (which isn't assured), then the max amount of people that have a chance at the cheat code would be 5 people if I hand out the cheat code before the end of D3. (3 Days and 2 Nights) Why only 5?
Does your ability specify only Day or Night? My understanding is that most Active abilities that are specific to Day or Night will also function in one of Dawn or Dusk, as a separate instance of the ability. MEaning you should be able to get 4 people per Day/Night cycle instead of just 2.
Zinger already altered the rule to be more specific about that. You may want to make sure you understand them. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #836 Oct 28, 2013 19:55:10
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User LordMark wrote: Zinger specifically told me that I should go for it because it suits my role. I didn't need to be told that, I just wasn't sure about any negative consequences at the time. To clarify something for everyone about the above line:
LordMark and I had a conversation about the game in which he asked me about Ragnarokio's (now LnGrrrR) claimed "speedhack" ability and whether or not he would benefit. I told him I can't comment on whether or not he would benefit but that if he believed he could benefit he should probably tell that to Ragnarokio who was at the time asking who would be interested in receiving it. This is what LordMark is refering to when he says I specifically told him that he should go for it.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Freddeh wrote: I don't have the slightest who is scummy right now, or what scum even entails in this rediculous game where the mod is almost as much of a player as the players are >_>. If you are referencing the fact that I have on occasion voted players for breaking the rules, well... If you prefer, I could modkill players for breaking the rules (which would replace the day's lynch anyway), but I thought voting them was slightly more forgiving. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message LnG: I was quoting Ahlyis actually, so you're answering him not me. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #840 Oct 28, 2013 20:01:20 (Edited)
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LordMark wrote: Zinger already altered the rule to be more specific about that. You may want to make sure you understand them. Hmm, are you sure? ...
Zinger2099 wrote: There are PASSIVE abilities and ACTIVE abilities. Passives are always on. Actives must be engaged by you in some fashion. Unless otherwise specified, you may only use ONE Active ability per Phase (Day, Night, Twilight, Dawn).
Some abilities only work at certain times (Day, Night, etc). Others work at any time.
It doesn't say anything here. I know for a fact that many of my abilities can be used during Twilight or Dawn, but perhaps that was something told to me in a PM. I would have sworn the Mod said so in the thread. Still, it would appear that you are correct and the Rules do not specify that Dawn and Twilight allow for abilities of Day or Night. The Rules do specificaly mention treating them as one or the other for posting in thread reasons, but not for Activated Ability reasons.
Still, that doesn't negate my question. We cannot see his abilities. So it is quite possible that they are usable during Dawn or Twilight.
On a different note regarding the rules...
Zinger2099 wrote: Regarding activity levels, all I require is that you make a minimum of one post in the game thread per week. That's it.
Saturdays don't count towards any time limits in the game. Since Saturday doesn't count for "ANY" time limit, does that mean we can go for 8 days without posting instead of only 7? Not that I'm likely to come anywhere close to that anyway. I was just wondering.
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Freddeh wrote: I don't have the slightest who is scummy right now, or what scum even entails in this rediculous game where the mod is almost as much of a player as the players are >_>. If you are referencing the fact that I have on occasion voted players for breaking the rules, well... If you prefer, I could modkill players for breaking the rules (which would replace the day's lynch anyway), but I thought voting them was slightly more forgiving.
*shrug*
So what has happened in this game OTHER than circlejerking around weird roles that have been claimed? Report Comment Mafia History (Most Fun and/or Favorites listed) TOP REPLY QUOTE #843 Oct 28, 2013 20:10:49
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Ahlyis wrote:
On a different note regarding the rules...
Zinger2099 wrote: Regarding activity levels, all I require is that you make a minimum of one post in the game thread per week. That's it.
Saturdays don't count towards any time limits in the game. Since Saturday doesn't count for "ANY" time limit, does that mean we can go for 8 days without posting instead of only 7? Not that I'm likely to come anywhere close to that anyway. I was just wondering.
One post per week does not equate to one post per 7 days (in which your assumption would be correct).
In other words, no.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Freddeh wrote: So what has happened in this game OTHER than circlejerking around weird roles that have been claimed? That's not for me to say. Read the game and figure it out yourself. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Freddeh wrote: So what has happened in this game OTHER than circlejerking around weird roles that have been claimed?
That's not for me to say. Read the game and figure it out yourself.
It wasn't directed to you anyway . Report Comment Mafia History (Most Fun and/or Favorites listed) TOP REPLY QUOTE #847 Oct 28, 2013 20:24:42
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Pdr_Br was minding his own business this afternoon, a rareity for him you might say, when all of a sudden he caught the attention of an angry crazed citizen. Yelling and and cussing soon drew the attention of many more of his ilk and Pdr_Br was quickly surrounded by an ANGRY MOB.
They were just about to give him the beating of a lifetime when suddenly searing hot flames came down from the sky and created a wall of fire blocking the mob from their intended target. Pdr_Br was able to get away safe and sound, looking skyward as if to thank the unseen angel that watched over him this day.
An ANGRY MOB VOTE against Pdr_Br was prevented by fire from the sky.
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The Tomb of Horrors Discussion. TOP REPLY EDIT DELETE QUOTE #848 Oct 28, 2013 20:26:24 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Ahl, my Day deal is specifically listed as being a Day ability, and Night deal is specifically listed as a Night ability.
@Lord, here's what I don't get. You spend the majority of the game sounding very towny, implying you are Spidey etc etc. You are worried that Al's might be anti-town and don't want him to have abilities, further showing towniness.
Yet as soon as you are called town you immediately backtrack from that assertion. A bit strange, to say the least. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #849 Oct 28, 2013 20:26:41 (Edited)
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Zinger2099 wrote: One post per week does not equate to one post per 7 days (in which your assumption would be correct).
In other words, no.
I think 7 days is more than fair considering most other games have like a 2 or 3 day window of inactivity. I absolutely agree that 7 days is more than enough time.
I do have to disagree about what a "week" is. It's pretty universally defined to be 7 days. So "one post per week" DOES equate to one per 7 days under the accepted definition of the word. There are often arguments about when a week starts, and even alternate "weeks" like "work week" which might only be 5 days or even less. But one "week" is 7 days. *shrugs*
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Block User Direct Message LordMark wrote: @JayDreven: Whether you've said that before or not, nobody has ever quoted me and explained exactly what I've done that's contradictory.
Ahl just did with your town snafu. Deny it all you like, it's plain to see. And this just comes off as more over defensive propoganda. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #851 Oct 28, 2013 20:28:48 (Edited)
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LnGrrrR wrote: @Ahl, my Day deal is specifically listed as being a Day ability, and Night deal is specifically listed as a Night ability. If I were you, I would specifically ask the mod about Dawn and Twilight.
Up to you of course, but what would it hurt to ask via PM? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #852 Oct 28, 2013 20:29:57 (Edited)
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Ahlyis wrote:
Zinger2099 wrote: One post per week does not equate to one post per 7 days (in which your assumption would be correct).
In other words, no.
I think 7 days is more than fair considering most other games have like a 2 or 3 day window of inactivity.
I absolutely agree that 7 days is more than enough time.
I do have to disagree about what a "week" is. It's pretty universally defined to be 7 days. So "one post per week" DOES equate to one per 7 days under the accepted definition of the word. There are often arguments about when a week starts, and even alternate "weeks" like "work week" which might only be 5 days or even less. But one "week" is 7 days. *shrugs*
That said, this is a bastard game, so if you want to punish someone for trying to abuse a loophole, go for it! Saturdays don't count towards time limits in the game. The one post per week rule is not a time limit. Requiring one post per calendar week is not the same as requiring one post per 144 hours. But now we are getting into semantics.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Ahlyis wrote:
LnGrrrR wrote: @Ahl, my Day deal is specifically listed as being a Day ability, and Night deal is specifically listed as a Night ability. If I were you, I would specifically ask the mod about Dawn and Twilight.
Up to you of course, but what would it hurt to ask via PM? To put an end to this discussion:
If an ability says DAY it is only useable during the Day phase. If it says NIGHT it is only useable during the Night phase. Ditto for if it says DAWN and/or TWILIGHT.
If an ability says useable at ANY time or during ANY phase, then it can be used in any of the four phases (Day, Night, Dawn, Twilight).
This means that if you have an Active ability that you can use multiple times and it says useable during ANY phase, you can use that ability up to 4 times per Day/Night cycle (because you are still restricted to one Active ability per Phase). But I wouldn't assume that there are many abilities like this out there, if any.
The rule that says treat Twilight as Day and Dawn as Night is pertaining to whether or not you are allowed to post only and has nothing to do with when you can use abilities.
If there is any confusion about when you can use an ability, PM me. But it should be clear, I would think, if you just re-examine your role PM. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message LnGr, I admire your analyzations, though if you read my posts you would know that I was never implying anything. It is true that I have been actively trying to help.
I do not deny being town nor do I claim it either. I promise you all that I will claim eventually, most likely sooner than later. Just not on the first day. We have enough claims already. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #855 Oct 28, 2013 20:44:24 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Lord,
I guess my point is, why deny being town? I know this is a bastard game, but usually people want to be seen as town, whether scum or town. Just strikes me as off.
And I agree, no claims yet pl0x
@Ahl, if you don't mind answering, how many abilities do you have? Don't need a specific number even, something like "5-8" would be fine. Up to you.
Re the mod flavor, was the Human Torch in Maximum Carnage? I need to find a wiki on this game...
@Freddeh, pretty ballsy of you to claim about lack of scum hunting when you have barely posted.
But he is right; not enough scum hunting going on. What about BE? He's my current "best guess". Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #856 Oct 28, 2013 20:49:12 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Hey Freddeh, why does your name show up as Freddeh-scum on the vote counts? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #857 Oct 28, 2013 20:52:49
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User LnGrrrR wrote: Re the mod flavor, was the Human Torch in Maximum Carnage? I need to find a wiki on this game... Protip: check Page 1.
LnGrrrR wrote: Hey Freddeh, why does your name show up as Freddeh-scum on the vote counts?
It's a nickname I gave him years ago. I have called him Freddeh-scum ever since. It bears no significance to the game whatsoever, I just refuse to drop it at this point (even if it runs the risk of people assuming that he is scum as a result ). Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message Again, I never denied anything about my role nor have I outright stated anything from it(besides one restriction). It's a secret I am not ready to share. Assuming anything is never good. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #859 Oct 28, 2013 21:07:49 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Ah... Not Human Torch, but Firestar.
Also, I think I know at least one person's character, but not claiming it yet. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #860 Oct 28, 2013 21:10:10 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Zinger, thanks for clarification. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #861 Oct 28, 2013 21:24:36 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message And no one seems to note Pdr_br's near run in with a mob driven death. Seriously, if you want him to live get your votes off him before the mob decides it is his time.
Also Mod: Votecount please? If it is unwise to ask for it may I take your smiting well. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #862 Oct 29, 2013 20:51:57
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Proves my lack of vote. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #864 Oct 28, 2013 22:41:56 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Iso, how familiar are you with the Max Carnage storyline? Because a quick Wikipedia review implies a way to defeat you. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #865 Oct 29, 2013 0:09:36 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message LnGrrrR wrote: @Iso, how familiar are you with the Max Carnage storyline? Because a quick Wikipedia review implies a way to defeat you.
:shrug: Not terribly, but I know fire and sound are good ways to hurt a symbiote.
JayDreven wrote: I see a lot of people calling Mark obv town, but frankly his insistance on getting a hold of super charger ability thingy seems more scummy to me.
How dare he want to use his ability optimally!
ur dum
LordMark wrote: Everyone else seems to be getting it just fine except Iso and you.
Getting what, now? Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #866 Oct 29, 2013 0:40:47 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Well, you said you might end up being convinced to defeat yourself. In the books, it states that Stark Industries develops a device to spread love and hope which overwhelms the villains. Then Venom beats the crud out of him. Just something I found interesting. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #867 Oct 29, 2013 1:11:26
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Block User Direct Message I see Carnage still is employing a reading comprehension level of a first grader. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #868 Oct 29, 2013 2:18:57 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message JayDreven, I don't think Iso will ever stop that as long as he(?) is in this role. Trust me on this, I gots brainz.
*Insert trollface here*
But back to serious business with a top 3 scum list (other than Carnage)
Currently I have Clinic, Seppel, and Purphoros as possible scum. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #869 Oct 29, 2013 2:51:03 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message A few people have said Purphoros is probably scum. I'd like to hear a case on him please, as in my opinion he has been one of the most active scumhunters in the game.
However, Purphoros, it doesn't make you look good not answering those questions (even with the smily faces) so answer them please
So, to recap, Someone compile a case on Purphoros and Purphoros answer the questions against you. Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message JayDreven wrote: I see Carnage still is employing a reading comprehension level of a first grader.
You're a moron. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #871 Oct 29, 2013 3:06:56 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Tevish_Szat: ???? Ragnarokio: ??? Arioch22: Ahylis, Lurkers JayDreven: IsoSTARDUST, Seppel, Purphoros, Freddeh PeregrineV: ???? Pdr_Br: Seppel, Freddeh, Purphoros tmich: ???? Freddeh: ??? LordMark: Freddeh, LnGrrrR Shockwave07: Clinic, Seppel, Purphoros Zokorad: Ahlys, Jedcaj: ??? Clinic: Freddeh, Edeon, Me (gasp ) Murica: Ahylis, IsoSTARDUST, Clinic edeon: ??? EtR: ??? Burning_Earth: Pdr, LnGrrrR, Seppel Purphoros: EtR, Pdr_Br, Freddeh (this is just to get the train moving/not gerrymander) Resyx: LnGr, Freddeh, Zokorad,
I Think that's it for the top scum, correct me if I'm wrong
Anyways the top scum count Ahlys-2 Iso-2 Seppel-3 Purphoros-3 Freddeh-6 LnGrrR-3 Clinic-2 Edeon-1 Me -1 Pdr-1 Etr-1 Zokorad-1
The suprising results are... Fredddeh is the most suspected right now
Also, why I still susect Rag/LngR I still suspect him/her as we haven't got confirmation from someone we think is townie. If at night, he/she targets the most thoguht of as townie, LM, and he confirms it works. HOWEVER don't vote for him until tommorow when his claim has been proven or not.
Also, I want to end the day, and it seems the town has spoken. Lynch Freddeh!
Vote Freddeh
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Block User Direct Message Really? Seriously? I can only correct you so many times.
And we really need to test the unlynchables before we lynch anyone else.
Vote Iso
In other news, Jay continues to react to Iso being Iso. (whis is being a troll :trolo: ) Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #873 Oct 29, 2013 4:56:55
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Can someone tell me why people aren't voting for Iso? Specially those that advocate testing his claim?
PS: Thanks Hot Angel for coming to the rescue ; it seems that there are still heroes here. Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #874 Oct 29, 2013 6:34:26 (Edited)
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@ lnggr: I know you haven't asked me but I am very unlikely to ever take up the deal. I value my vote too much to give it up.
If people are finally willing to test the unlynchables I'm certainly game.
vote: iso
By my count that is 8 on iso. We need at least 4 more to test if he survives the normal lynch threshold. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #875 Oct 29, 2013 9:11:10 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Clinic, understood, all good, and thanks for the response!
I am fine with letting LordMark confirm my role. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #876 Oct 29, 2013 9:35:13 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message IsoSTARDUST wrote:
JayDreven wrote: I see Carnage still is employing a reading comprehension level of a first grader.
You're a moron.
Coming from a guy who continually fails to comprehend whats being posted in the thread, I'll take that with a grain of salt. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #877 Oct 29, 2013 9:45:41
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I wanted to test Ahl first but Iso is fair game too.
Unvote, Vote: Iso That's 9?
@Burning_Earth and Purphoros: Are you guys friends irl or something? Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #878 Oct 29, 2013 9:50:34 (Edited)
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@Jay: I don't see Mark asking for LnGrrrR enhancement as scummy. It's an ability that would benefit either side. A bit selfish maybe I doubt that many players, given the opportunity would refuse it. I for one, am on the same side as Clinic... I believe that the vote is the greatest weapon that the town has and would not let it go on my own accord. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #879 Oct 29, 2013 10:00:03 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message @Iso: I was referring to the purple links above replies, but when I mentioned you it wasn't really called for, sorry. I had noticed a post from you that was neither a reply nor a quote and I had no idea what you were talking about.
@B_E: I had mentioned Rag and Freddeh being the top lurkers but I'm no longer certain of that. I wasn't saying that we should lynch them for being inactive. Also if you were to put those two in the box of lurkers, then you might as well throw Shockwave07 in too. He replaced one of the inactives. So, if you must know who I think are the top 3 mafia, I'd have to say I need to reread and rethink some things.
@Pdr: No clue. I'm guessing that we're going to need all the votes, not just half.
@Clinic: Yeah, somehow I doubt it. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #880 Oct 29, 2013 11:38:49 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message A quick reminder: the Day deal only removed your vote for the Day, and the Night deal involves being roleblocked.
So, no one else took a link at the Wikipedia page? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #881 Oct 29, 2013 11:47:18
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Arioch22 Joined Feb 2011 2189 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote: Arioch22 wrote: Very unlikely. However, you said more mob votes that pile up limits the choices for who town can lynch, and that is actually the opposite. The mob votes can only make people easier to lynch Wrong! The mob votes only make the people that have them easier to lynch. If the mob votes are only being spread among 4 or 5 players, then those 4or 5 players become easier to lynch, but everyone else effectively becomes harder. Note that I said "effectively". I know the non-voted don't have their threshold raised, but compared to theose receiving Mob Votes, they become much harder to lynch. No.
You said: Ahlyis wrote: As they keep piling up, they will limit the choices Town has for who to Lynch. That is objectifiably false. Decreasing the threshold of people does not limit the options town has. At worst it changes nothing, at best it makes certain people easier to lynch and others stay the same.
Anyway, it doesn't really matter at all and has no relevance to the game and no matter what you will never admit that you are wrong so I would rather drop it at this point. So to that effect, I admit you are totally right and I am wrong and the mob votes limit towns options.
@ LnG - Yeah, I read it. Which is why I am pretty certain Carnage doesn't control the Mob votes. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #883 Oct 29, 2013 12:03:48
Arioch22 Joined Feb 2011 2189 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message EBWOP: Missing /quote tag in that first quote, but I think you should be able to figure it out. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #884 Oct 29, 2013 12:05:53
Shockwave07 Joined Mar 2013 1667 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @LnGrrrR: I took a look. This may just help us get a better read on who's who so we can shield the innocents of this fair city from evil doers. Flavor wise that is. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #885 Oct 29, 2013 12:05:54
Murica Joined Jan 2006 2 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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If Carnage controlled the Mob Votes, I do expect that LnGrrrR would have been lynched right now. I am fairly certain that Carnage is not behind it. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #886 Oct 29, 2013 12:15:02 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I also don't think Carnage controls the mob. Carnage is about chaos... Controlling anything would be the very opposite of that.
Given the PDR save, it's likely that Firestar is in this game.
Given how Iso said Carnage could be defeated, some form of inventor/device creator is likely in this game too.
I also have figured out another claim, as noted above, but not sharing.
I have a guess on Karador too, but keeping it in my pocket for the time being. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #887 Oct 29, 2013 12:36:38
LordMark Joined Feb 2011 322 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Murica: What makes you think Iso wants LnGrrrR dead at all, let alone right now?
@LnGr: could be, but wouldn't that make things a little too easy? I already know how carny can be taken down, its just a matter of finding the right people. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #888 Oct 29, 2013 13:09:18 (Edited)
Murica Joined Jan 2006 2 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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LordMark wrote: @Murica: What makes you think Iso wants LnGrrrR dead at all, let alone right now?
His playstyle so far. Do you have any doubt that Iso would end the day first chance he gets? Not to mention if he also has the option to cause some extra chaos Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #889 Oct 29, 2013 13:09:38
Ahlyis Joined Aug 2003 11161 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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LnGrrrR wrote: @Ahl, if you don't mind answering, how many abilities do you have? Don't need a specific number even, something like "5-8" would be fine. Up to you. All I will say is... higher. And that's all. I won't get any more specific than that. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #890 Oct 29, 2013 13:24:50
Ahlyis Joined Aug 2003 11161 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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Arioch22 wrote: Ahlyis wrote: As they keep piling up, they will limit the choices Town has for who to Lynch. That is objectifiably false. Decreasing the threshold of people does not limit the options town has. At worst it changes nothing, at best it makes certain people easier to lynch and others stay the same. Technically, you are correct. Practically, you are wrong. If you have 5 people at 12 to lynch and 5 people at 3 to lynch then for all PRACTICAL purposes, the 5 players at 12 to lynch are not viable lynch options. Could they technically still be lynched? Yes. Is it at all believable that they would be lynched? No.
I'd say that we're both "right" depending on your perspective.
Arioch22 wrote: Anyway, it doesn't really matter at all and has no relevance to the game and no matter what you will never admit that you are wrong so I would rather drop it at this point. So to that effect, I admit you are totally right and I am wrong and the mob votes limit towns options. I see you've joined the Iso school for acting like 5 year olds when you don't like what someone else is saying. *shrugs* Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #891 Oct 29, 2013 13:50:48 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Ahl, fair enough. Thanks! Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #892 Oct 29, 2013 14:22:28
Arioch22 Joined Feb 2011 2189 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote: I see you've joined the Iso school for acting like 5 year olds when you don't like what someone else is saying. *shrugs* You would know, you are the expert of such behavior. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #893 Oct 29, 2013 14:46:23
Ahlyis Joined Aug 2003 11161 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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Arioch22 wrote:
Ahlyis wrote: I see you've joined the Iso school for acting like 5 year olds when you don't like what someone else is saying. *shrugs* You would know, you are the expert of such behavior. Nice response. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #894 Oct 29, 2013 14:49:36
Arioch22 Joined Feb 2011 2189 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote:
Arioch22 wrote:
Ahlyis wrote: I see you've joined the Iso school for acting like 5 year olds when you don't like what someone else is saying. *shrugs* You would know, you are the expert of such behavior. Nice response. Thank you. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #895 Oct 29, 2013 16:32:28 (Edited)
Zokorad Joined Sep 2011 3500 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message The reason that Town should Accept LnGr's Day offer is that it makes him more inclined to help town in lylo and makes him a harder lynch for Mafia to cause us to waste. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #896 Oct 29, 2013 16:39:19
LordMark Joined Feb 2011 322 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @LnGr: Even if we had a way of delivering sonic blasts to Carnage, it's likely he is immune to it. In maximum carnage, Spidey, Venom and Cat stole Reed Richards' sonic gun but it had no effect on him because his suit was a mutation of the symbiote and his own blood. He was still weak to fire, however. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #897 Oct 29, 2013 16:40:27 (Edited)
Burning_Earth Joined Sep 2013 105 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Oh yeah, that is 8 on ISO. Well, I suppose the town has spoken Unvote Vote Iso Report Comment
IMAGE(http://www.nodiatis.com/pub/19.jpg) TOP REPLY QUOTE #898 Oct 29, 2013 16:48:50 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Zokorad, don't forget that those who make a deal with me also have their lynch threshold raised, helping town in that way too Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #899 Oct 29, 2013 18:36:02
Shockwave07 Joined Mar 2013 1667 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Alright let's just see what Carnage's can handle... Unvote Vote:Iso Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #900 Oct 29, 2013 19:11:51
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User IsoSTARDUST currently has 11 votes on him. Assuming that he is lynched at the "Majority Lynch" he is now at L-1; maybe.
This is getting exciting!
Also, 900 posts as of this post! Yay! Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
The Tomb of Horrors Discussion. TOP REPLY EDIT DELETE QUOTE #901 Oct 29, 2013 19:28:37
Zokorad Joined Sep 2011 3500 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Let this day be over shall there be a liar. Unvote; Vote: IsoStardust Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #902 Oct 29, 2013 19:36:40 (Edited)
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The Tomb of Horrors Discussion. TOP REPLY EDIT DELETE QUOTE #903 Oct 29, 2013 20:01:38 (Edited) Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Unvote, vote IsoSTARDUST
Shockwave07 Joined Mar 2013 1667 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I think Zinger is hiding because what some thought would happen (majority=lynch) didn't happen at majority... And seriously Zinger? The one who unleashed Carnage on us is hiding? Sad... Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #905 Oct 29, 2013 21:06:05
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User IsoSTARDUST currently has 13 votes on him. Assuming that he is lynched at the "Majority Lynch" he is now at L+1.
Well, now isn't that something. The people actually organised themselves to try and kill CARNAGE. Bravo.
Too bad the guy's tough as nails.
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A Lynch has not been reached. The Day is not over.
Feel free to keep trying though. I'm sure he'll get lynched eventually...Right?
IsoSTARDUST, aka CARNAGE (13): Tevish_Szat, Peregrinev, Pdr_Br, Pdr_Br, Jedcaj, Resyx, Clinic, Murica, Burning_Earth, Shockwave07, Zokorad, Purphoros, Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
The Tomb of Horrors Discussion. TOP REPLY EDIT DELETE QUOTE #906 Oct 29, 2013 20:42:25
LordMark Joined Feb 2011 322 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Did I miss something? The last votecount says Clinic is voting for two people at the same time. Did we know he had 2 votes or did somebody forget to take his name off?
Anyways, if you guys think we can lynch him without my vote keep going until everyone is on him. Otherwise, maybe we should find someone a little easier to lynch, and fast. No, I don't mean LnGr. He doesn't deserve to die. And I don't think Ahlyis is any easier to lynch than Iso, so we're back to the drawing board. I guess Freddeh is the next one on the scum list...not that I think he's scum. I really don't. He's just not taking the game seriously, and that sucks balls because he probably has a decent role.
I'd really like to hear some reads on Clinic. Shockwave and Murica, you both have Clinic in your top 3 scum, care to share your thoughts? Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #907 Oct 29, 2013 20:47:06 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message My current guesses are Freddeh and BE for what it is worth Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #908 Oct 29, 2013 20:50:33 (Reply to #907)
LordMark Joined Feb 2011 322 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Why Freddeh and B_E? Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #909 Oct 29, 2013 21:05:04
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User LordMark wrote: Did I miss something? The last votecount says Clinic is voting for two people at the same time. Did we know he had 2 votes or did somebody forget to take his name off? This was an error on my part. It has been fixed. At the time Clinic was voting Burning_Earth only, though he is now voting CARNAGE. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
The Tomb of Horrors Discussion. TOP REPLY EDIT DELETE QUOTE #910 Oct 29, 2013 20:53:50
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Unvote, Vote: Ahlyis Report Comment Allons-y! TOP REPLY QUOTE #911 Oct 29, 2013 21:02:04 (Edited) Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Unvote, vote Ahylis
If we want to lynch scum today my suggestion would be to lynch Murica or Pdr. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #912 Oct 29, 2013 21:18:41
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User C'mon guys! Don't quit now! You were so close to his Lynch Threshold!
I'm such a bastard. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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LordMark Joined Feb 2011 322 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Then why vote Ahlyis, someone who is probably just as unlynchable as Carnage, maybe more so?
Did you give reasons for why you think Murica is scum? I'd like to hear it. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #914 Oct 29, 2013 21:21:58 (Reply to #912)
LordMark Joined Feb 2011 322 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Lol, Zinger. Very funny. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #915 Oct 29, 2013 21:28:17
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User LordMark wrote: Lol, Zinger. Very funny. I like to think so. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
The Tomb of Horrors Discussion. TOP REPLY EDIT DELETE QUOTE #916 Oct 29, 2013 21:37:29 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Reasons:
Freddy didnt do anything, then complained about nothing going on in the game. Pinged my scumdar.
BE I would have to look over, but I just remember feeling scum vibes from his posting. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #917 Oct 29, 2013 21:55:18 (Reply to #916)
LordMark Joined Feb 2011 322 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Yeah I don't know what's up with Freddeh... it seems as though he doesn't care or he's asking for it. Or maybe he just doesn't have the time. Either way he doesn't deserve your attention. I don't think he's mafia but he doesn't ping town to me either. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #918 Oct 29, 2013 22:33:08 (Edited) Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message LordMark wrote: Then why vote Ahlyis, someone who is probably just as unlynchable as Carnage, maybe more so?
Did you give reasons for why you think Murica is scum? I'd like to hear it.
Yeah, I'll present a case soon enough, similar to the one on Pdr. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #919 Oct 29, 2013 22:42:05
Shockwave07 Joined Mar 2013 1667 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Lordmark: Something about the way Clinic's posts come accross wrong to me. First his vote jump on Burning Earth for a useless vote on Iso. Then there was the way he turned on Pdr_Br. It didn't seem right, can't remember why. Will have to go back through the posts to get a summary of why. Also he seemed awfully passive in his most recent post on the voting on Iso/Carnage. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #920 Oct 29, 2013 22:56:43 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message And while I'm around: UnvoteVote:Ahlyis Figure it can't hurt to test. He did mess with what is debatably a superhero's ability. I can't help but flavor game this whole thing. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #921 Oct 30, 2013 0:34:45
IsoSTARDUST Joined Sep 2013 454 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Murica wrote: If Carnage controlled the Mob Votes, I do expect that LnGrrrR would have been lynched right now. I am fairly certain that Carnage is not behind it. JayDreven wrote:
IsoSTARDUST wrote:
JayDreven wrote: I see Carnage still is employing a reading comprehension level of a first grader.
You're a moron.
Coming from a guy who continually fails to comprehend whats being posted in the thread, I'll take that with a grain of salt.
o man u got mi gud wit dat wun
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Ugh, Zinger really needs to stop confirming roles in-thread, IMO.
At least we know I'm Unlynchable.
And yeah, I would've slapped a Mob Vote on LnGr if I were controlling it, because I don't know if he's Venom or not. :shrug: Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE Pages « FIRST‹ PREVIOUS…192021222324252627…NEXT ›LAST » Paranoia ParadiseParanoia ParadiseGame ArchiveMAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia [TOWN/GOBLIN VICTORY] Reply Your name Zinger2099 Response * Format
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Paranoia ParadiseParanoia ParadiseGame ArchiveMAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia [TOWN/GOBLIN VICTORY] 2515 posts / 0 new QUICK REPLY LAST POST FOLLOW Pages « FIRST‹ PREVIOUS…202122232425262728…NEXT ›LAST » #922 Oct 30, 2013 1:17:39
Clinic Joined Oct 2004 685 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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@ shockwave: when did I turn on pdr? I've been defending him if anything.
vote: ahlyis
Test subject no.2. The town is finally organising itself! Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #923 Oct 30, 2013 1:18:58
Burning_Earth Joined Sep 2013 105 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message We voted Iso diplomatically, now we need to vote Freddeh diplomatically. Unvote Iso, Vote Freddeh! Report Comment
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Burning_Earth Joined Sep 2013 105 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Although we seem to want to vote Ahlys. Another vote for ahlys ninja'd be (or sarnath'd or whatever you call them here) and I suppose we should be consistent and test him/her. Unvote Freddeh, Vote Ahlys Report Comment
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Resyx Joined Dec 2008 95 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Unvote, Vote Ahylis
I'll say this, Freddeh went from being slightly suspicious to incredibly with his complaints about not having much to reply to. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #926 Oct 30, 2013 3:09:01
Burning_Earth Joined Sep 2013 105 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Resyx wrote: Unvote, Vote Ahylis
I'll say this, Freddeh went from being slightly suspicious to incredibly with his complaints about not having much to reply to.
Yeah, after we test the unlynchables we should kill Freddeh. "There's nothing to reply to! None at all! And I made huge amounts of content! HUGE!" Report Comment
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LordMark wrote: Did you give reasons for why you think Murica is scum? I'd like to hear it.
Yes, he did. Because he said it so many times I have to be scum.
Hope we have more luck here. Unvote, Vote: Ahlyis Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #928 Oct 30, 2013 3:24:36 (Edited)
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Burning_Earth wrote:
Resyx wrote: Unvote, Vote Ahylis
I'll say this, Freddeh went from being slightly suspicious to incredibly with his complaints about not having much to reply to.
Yeah, after we test the unlynchables we should kill Freddeh. "There's nothing to reply to! None at all! And I made huge amounts of content! HUGE!"
It's a high probability in that considering how many people find him suspicious. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #929 Oct 30, 2013 3:26:59
Freddeh Joined Aug 2006 5935 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message You misunderstand me.
So my inquiry about trying to get someone to catch me up has been blown up to me complaining about nothing to reply to. I was literally inactive for basically 2 weeks...It was a serious inquiry, what has actually happened other than the roleclaim ****?
FoS: B_E for trumpeting the rediculous overstatement of my previous posts.
On that note, we're 24 pages in and just now finally doing something that we should have done 15 pages ago...so that might actually be a legitimate complaint now XD.
Unvote;VotE: Ahlyis
I think we 'could' test Carnage further, but while organization is at a plus we might as well go for Ahlyis. Report Comment Mafia History (Most Fun and/or Favorites listed) TOP REPLY QUOTE #930 Oct 30, 2013 3:31:48 (Edited)
Freddeh Joined Aug 2006 5935 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message EBWOP: Looks like it was LnGnnnrrr whatever his name that first started the misunderstanding, and how you got 'why is no one scumhunting' from 'what has been going on in this game?' I have no idea.
FoS: LnG as well Report Comment Mafia History (Most Fun and/or Favorites listed) TOP REPLY QUOTE #931 Oct 30, 2013 3:38:22 (Edited)
Freddeh Joined Aug 2006 5935 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message LordMark wrote: Did I miss something? The last votecount says Clinic is voting for two people at the same time. Did we know he had 2 votes or did somebody forget to take his name off?
Anyways, if you guys think we can lynch him without my vote keep going until everyone is on him. Otherwise, maybe we should find someone a little easier to lynch, and fast. No, I don't mean LnGr. He doesn't deserve to die. And I don't think Ahlyis is any easier to lynch than Iso, so we're back to the drawing board. I guess Freddeh is the next one on the scum list...not that I think he's scum. I really don't. He's just not taking the game seriously, and that sucks balls because he probably has a decent role.
I'd really like to hear some reads on Clinic. Shockwave and Murica, you both have Clinic in your top 3 scum, care to share your thoughts?
Well you're about 1/3rd right: Only the 'hes not scum' part. Which makes me on the suspicious of you because you should have basically no reason to think i'm town at this point.
But past that, Its not that i'm not taking the game seriously, its a combination of me disliking this boards (they were running SOOOOO SLOOOOOOOOWLY that i just didn't bother for a bit), and starting classes back up that caused me to go inactive. Oh, and my role is boring. That didn't help and is also the other part you got wrong. Report Comment Mafia History (Most Fun and/or Favorites listed) TOP REPLY QUOTE #932 Oct 30, 2013 3:40:42
Freddeh Joined Aug 2006 5935 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Murica wrote:
Burning_Earth wrote:
Resyx wrote: Unvote, Vote Ahylis
I'll say this, Freddeh went from being slightly suspicious to incredibly with his complaints about not having much to reply to.
Yeah, after we test the unlynchables we should kill Freddeh. "There's nothing to reply to! None at all! And I made huge amounts of content! HUGE!"
It's a high probability in that considering how many people find him suspicious.
The worst part is there is nothing for me to defend myself against other than the rediculous putting words in my mouth notion.
Before that its 'lynch him because hes lurking!' or ppl suspicious of me because of some random day 1 vote on pdr that was probably just based off a gut read or something...I don't even remember XD.
Not that i'm complaining, it just is rather interesting how people just want to go for an 'easy' lynch right now. Report Comment Mafia History (Most Fun and/or Favorites listed) TOP REPLY QUOTE #933 Oct 30, 2013 3:43:41
Murica Joined Jan 2006 2 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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I haven't actually followed the case against you since it was based on inactivity to begin with ... and I prefer to scumhunt than to lynch those who can't defend. If it becomes an important topic I definitely will. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #934 Oct 30, 2013 4:32:56 (Edited)
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Well Unvotex2, Votex2: Ahlyis although I would prefer to test Seppel first... Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #935 Oct 30, 2013 5:27:21 (Edited)
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That should put Ahlyis at 12 unless I counted wrong. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #936 Oct 30, 2013 6:52:42 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message I walk into a bar. I break a glass and gouge out the bartender's eyes with it. I take two pool cues and jam them through two patrons' brains. I grab the cue ball and beat a waitress to death with it. I take the cook's face and press it against the grill until he stops breathing. I kick the manager in the balls until he dies from internal hemmorhaging.
Bodycount: 62
At least we're starting to move somewhere in this awful, awful Day. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #937 Oct 30, 2013 6:56:55
IsoSTARDUST Joined Sep 2013 454 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I go to a raceway. I steal a car and drive into the pit. My crew is waiting. 4 guys to replace my tires, 1 to fuel me up, and 1 to tell me I'm pretty.
I drive over all of them. Screw the pit crew.
Bodycount: 68 Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #938 Oct 30, 2013 7:01:48 (Edited)
IsoSTARDUST Joined Sep 2013 454 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I go to a Metallica show.
I lob a grenade on the stage.
Kirk Hammett and James Hetfield die from the shrapnel.
I set Lars Ulrich on fire.
I beat Robert Trujillo over the head with his bass until he is dead.
I don't like Metallica.
Bodycount: 72 Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #939 Oct 30, 2013 7:39:44 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I was wondering why Iso had stopped killing.
I find it amusing that Freddeh fos's me, then seems happy that we are now scumhunting... Even though I was one of the first ones to try and stop the ****.
@Freddeh, given the bastardy aspect of this game, there is a chance that you might gain powers or affect the game in other ways. Please stick around. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #940 Oct 30, 2013 12:02:48 (Edited)
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Well since Zinger didn't said that the mynch failed it means that we must need more people to cause it.
Also, could it be that the killings of Carnage are influenced by either/or the activity in this game or by people voting? Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #942 Oct 30, 2013 11:31:46 (Edited)
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I'll take that chance.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Pdr_Br wrote: Well since Zinger didn't said that the mynch failed it means that we must need more people to cause it.
Also, could it be that the killings of Carnage are influenced by either/or the activity in this game or by people voting?
Majority Lynch failed to lynch Ahlyis.
You happy?
CARNAGE just likes to do everything bigger and more in your face than everyone else.
Just because the titular character of the game got a flashy story post when you guys failed to lynch him and Ahlyis didn't doesn't mean anything as far as how lynchable one or the other is. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message @Mod, did you mean to type (6) players not voting? It only shows 5.
That said, Iso, Ahl and I have already confirmed we can't vote. Lord has confirmed he can, but hasn't yet. No info on Aurioch. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #945 Oct 30, 2013 11:54:44
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Block User Direct Message LnGrrrR wrote: No info on Aurioch. I have said at least three times, probably more, that I have a vote, but it is limited and it makes me weaker to use it, so I'm probably not going to use it to test. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #946 Oct 30, 2013 11:58:23 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Ah my bad Arioch.
Ok, so it looks like the only people who can't vote are myself, Iso and Ahl. Votes aren't as rare as I originally thought in this game then.
Gotta say Ahl, I have no clue who you are, unles you are Mephisto or something, and he wasnt even in the series AFAIK. (Don't answer, just speculating for fun.) Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #947 Oct 30, 2013 12:03:43 (Edited)
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User LnGrrrR wrote: @Mod, did you mean to type (6) players not voting? It only shows 5.
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Well then it's Seppel's time although it's going to take a lot of votes to do it.
Unvotex2, Votex2: Seppel Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #949 Oct 30, 2013 12:52:30 (Edited)
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LnGrrrR wrote: @Zokorad, don't forget that those who make a deal with me also have their lynch threshold raised, helping town in that way too Strange. I have neither a vote, nor a lynch threshold, but the response I got from the Mod after accepting told me that I had been voteblocked, but said nothing about my lynch threshold.
I wonder if someone that has a lynch threshold would get a more detailed response. But if so, then why bother telling me I have been voteblocked? Just to give me a response of some kind?
I suppose it doesn't really matter. It just seemed odd. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #950 Oct 30, 2013 12:56:51
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LordMark wrote: Then why vote Ahlyis, someone who is probably just as unlynchable as Carnage, maybe more so? To get the testing over with? Day didn't end after testing Carnage, it won't end after testing me (unless I'm lying), so why not just get it over and done with so there's no lingering doubt to fuel distracting arguments? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #951 Oct 30, 2013 13:08:22
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Ahlyis wrote:
LordMark wrote: Then why vote Ahlyis, someone who is probably just as unlynchable as Carnage, maybe more so? To get the testing over with? Day didn't end after testing Carnage, it won't end after testing me (unless I'm lying), so why not just get it over and done with so there's no lingering doubt to fuel distracting arguments? I suppose I could have read forward before responding. I would have known that the lynch on me already failed. *shrugs*
At least I got up to 14 though. Iso only managed to get to 13. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #952 Oct 30, 2013 13:08:22 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Maybe because it is a passive ability as opposed to the active deal which enables the voteblock.
I will ask LordMark for what info he received when I target him toNight. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #953 Oct 30, 2013 13:59:50
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Block User Direct Message LnGrrrR wrote: I was wondering why Iso had stopped killing.
When you have to think of ways to kill dozens of people, you start to run out of creativity. :shrug:
Fortunately, I saw American Psycho last night. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #954 Oct 30, 2013 14:14:05
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Block User Direct Message Actually, B_E misspelled Ahlyis, and apparently I'm the only one who noticed. So yeah, that's kind of funny.
@LnGr: I think Ahlyis is Kingpin, but that's just because of some of the things he said so far.
@Pdr: I have nothing against testing Seppel but it would take many more votes than Carnage and Ahlyis got, assuming he has majority treshold.
@Ahlyis: Because of the mob votes, remember? Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #955 Oct 30, 2013 14:18:17
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Block User Direct Message @Fred&Murcia: how do you guys feel about shang hai'ing this day and taking out a clianed neutral? Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #956 Oct 30, 2013 14:19:48 (Edited)
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LordMark wrote: Actually, B_E misspelled Ahlyis, and apparently I'm the only one who noticed. So yeah, that's kind of funny. My name gets mispelled all the time. Usually it's just swapping the "h" and the "y", but others happen a lot too. *shrugs*
LordMark wrote: @Ahlyis: Because of the mob votes, remember? NOW someone cares about Mob Votes piling up?
Meh, whatever. Once Town got rolling, testing on both Iso and myself didn't really take very long.
I agree that testing Seppel might be a lot more difficult though. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #957 Oct 30, 2013 14:20:41 (Edited)
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EBWOP: Err, make that swapping the "l" and the "y".
Not that it really matters anyway. *shrugs* Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #958 Oct 30, 2013 14:23:48 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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Why exactly would you want to take me out? I mean, I get that it is "easier" than scum hunting, but it does nothing for town to take me out, other than depriving it of awesomesauce. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #959 Oct 30, 2013 14:26:18
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Lngr, did you get confirmation from the Mod that your lynch threshold increased? That I accepted your offer?
Just curious. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #960 Oct 30, 2013 14:39:20 (Edited) (Reply to #956)
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Block User Direct Message @Ahlyis: Maybe usually it doesn't matter, but I could have sworn that Zinger made it clear that if a name is misspelled when voting, he would not count it to avoid problems. Not that I care, just thought it was interesting that the vote was counted. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #961 Oct 30, 2013 14:52:18
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Block User Direct Message LnGrrrR wrote: I find it amusing that Freddeh fos's me, then seems happy that we are now scumhunting... Even though I was one of the first ones to try and stop the ****.
Look at that, you're taking what I said and getting a completely off the wall assumption off of it again!
I was talking about the testing of Iso and Ahlyis, which should have been obvious by the fact that I voted Ahlyis right after that.
I'm getting strange vibes involving LnG reminding me of a scum Zipperflesh. He loved misrepresenting me like this when he was scum before too.
@JD: If you're talking about LnG, I'm all for it. Getting a bad vibe from him. That or he's just annoying me, that could be it...
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@Jay: The thought has crossed my mind/ I find him a loose canon which flies under the radar. Offering to enhance Ahlyis and countering it with enhancing LordMark, as the most pro-town player in his opinion. I got a town vibe from Mark but that does not make it so. I doubt he has any interest in helping the town and gives me the feeling that he's going to take the first chance he gets to screw us over.
Personally, I'd rather see him nerfed and stuck on L-3 threshold at this point though than "helping" the town as he did so far. But if we can't control him I won't think twice. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #963 Oct 30, 2013 15:03:08 (Edited)
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Freddeh wrote: @JD: If you're talking about LnG, I'm all for it. Getting a bad vibe from him. That or he's just annoying me, that could be it...
It's because he is doing what he wants but manipulates people into thinking it's the right course of action. I get that feeling too but I can't quite put my finger on it.
I do still want to test Seppel as well even though his vote on LnG earlier gives me a townish vibe. Scum just isn't that gutsy. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #964 Oct 30, 2013 15:33:39 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Might as well carry out the next test as I circle my vote back to Seppel. Unvote,Vote: Seppel
And while I'm here what are you planning JayDreven? I doubt flipping LnGrrrR will do us much good besides advancing the game into the first night. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #965 Oct 30, 2013 15:56:45
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Block User Direct Message Shockwave07 wrote: Might as well carry out the next test as I circle my vote back to Seppel. Unvote,Vote: Seppel
And while I'm here what are you planning JayDreven? I doubt flipping LnGrrrR will do us much good besides advancing the game into the first night.
Almost 1000 posts into the game...I don't see why thats a bad thing >_> Report Comment Mafia History (Most Fun and/or Favorites listed) TOP REPLY QUOTE #966 Oct 30, 2013 16:13:18
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UNVOTE. VOTE: SEPPEL:
I'm rather hoping he dies. I haven't liked his play thusfar. Report Comment "Enjoy your screams, Sarpadia - they will soon be muffled beneath snow and ice."
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Last Edited by Ralph on blank, 1920 TOP REPLY QUOTE #967 Oct 30, 2013 16:37:22 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Murica,
If you think that Lord is shady, shouldn't you be happy that my Deal with him will roleblock toNight?
Frankly, I think Ahl is a good choice first Day. I don't increase the threshold of anyone who is likely scum (I believe Ahl's neutral claim) and I don't take a vote away from town either.
Who do you think I should target toMorrow?
@Freddeh,
My comment towards you didnt quote anything about testing a neutral. It was pointing out how you seemed to decry the lack of scum hunting, then FoS me, one of the few trying to scumhunt.
Since I recognize I may have misread you, did you think there was a lack of scumhunting? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #968 Oct 30, 2013 16:41:17 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message I'm pretty sure Seppel is not mafia. He's Magical Trevor and there's no way Trevor is evil, he's just a magician.
The problem is, he needs to be on a leash. He can't just make random people disappear(aside from Carnage). Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #969 Oct 30, 2013 16:44:38 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message And as far as "convincing people"... Well sure. I am a neutral with a low lynch threshold. I can't really go around being a jerk to everyone. I forced neither Ahl nor Lord to accept my deals, and they are free to turn them down. (In fact, they don't even have to accept the PM as Ahl's post noted.)
Lynching me gets you no further to finding scum. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #970 Oct 30, 2013 16:54:01 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Yeah, I'm starting to think that murica is reaching for any lynch because he's getting anxious to use his night ability on someone. Doesn't sound very town friendly to me.
FoS: Murica Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #971 Oct 30, 2013 17:25:34 (Edited)
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Regarding Lngr... How about a nice game of outguess the mod?
Lngr claims a lynch threshold of just 2. Think about that for a second.
How likely is it that a role with a lynch threshold of 2 would be Neutral? He has no friends. Mafia just wants anyone dead. Town wants threats to Town dead. And nobody cares whether he is alive or not. During Day 1, where cases are hard to come by, and people often move their votes about, and most players have a couple votes on them at some point... just what would the expected survivability of such a role be?
Now what if we consider the role to be Mafia. Well, Mafia won't want to vote him, not even as a distancing move because a single person agreeing with them means he is lynched.
Anyway, it's an interesting idea. Something to consider...
But you should ignore me like Purphoros is doing. I don't care whether Town or Mafia wins, therefore I apparently have nothing useful to say and am just taking up space here. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #972 Oct 30, 2013 17:35:12 (Reply to #971)
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Block User Direct Message Considering how many people haven't had a couple votes on them after nearly 1000 posts, I'd wager big on the neutral option. His likeliness of being Mafia is practically zero, for the reason you just said.
So, reason to lynch him? The only reason I can think of is if he helps bad guys, which he said he would not do. Murica doesn't like him or anything he has done so far, I wonder why... Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #973 Oct 30, 2013 17:59:42 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message LnGrrrR wrote: @Murica,
If you think that Lord is shady, shouldn't you be happy that my Deal with him will roleblock toNight?
Frankly, I think Ahl is a good choice first Day. I don't increase the threshold of anyone who is likely scum (I believe Ahl's neutral claim) and I don't take a vote away from town either.
Who do you think I should target toMorrow?
@Freddeh,
My comment towards you didnt quote anything about testing a neutral. It was pointing out how you seemed to decry the lack of scum hunting, then FoS me, one of the few trying to scumhunt.
Since I recognize I may have misread you, did you think there was a lack of scumhunting?
No. I didn't.
In fact, please quote something from the last couple days that says as such.
Oh, and if you live, consider me as a potential target for your ability as well. I don't mind getting roleblocked.
@Ahlyis, if we're going to play outguess the mod, I'd actually make it MORE likely that it would be a neutral that would have a lynch threshold of 2 because 1) This is Zinger we're talking about, he WOULD be an **** like that (mean all in ), and 2) it would only affect himself and not his whole team, which makes more sense on a small lynch threshold imo.
Ultimately, its all outguessing the mod, and his ability sounds somewhat dangerous in enemy hands as well, which, combined with Murica's comments that pretty well hit it on the mark for what I was thinking, makes me perfectly ok with lynching him today. I have a feeling many things will be made more clearly after a night goes by, so honestly I'm anxious (and have been) to get to night as well. Report Comment Mafia History (Most Fun and/or Favorites listed) TOP REPLY QUOTE #974 Oct 30, 2013 18:23:59
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LordMark wrote: Considering how many people haven't had a couple votes on them after nearly 1000 posts, I'd wager big on the neutral option. Yes, because from a design standpoint Zinger would obviously know that this is how it would play out!
LordMark wrote: His likeliness of being Mafia is practically zero, for the reason you just said. Uh, yeah. Okay.
I give a reason why it makes more sense for it to be a Mafia role and you just say the exact opposite, using my reasoning, and no further explanation for how/why your conclusion is a complete 180 from mine. Okay.
Freddeh wrote: @Ahlyis, if we're going to play outguess the mod, I'd actually make it MORE likely that it would be a neutral that would have a lynch threshold of 2 because 1) This is Zinger we're talking about, he WOULD be an **** like that (mean all in ), and 2) it would only affect himself and not his whole team, which makes more sense on a small lynch threshold imo.
#1 is unlikely I think, though "anything is possible" does apply I suppose. #2 is a much better counter. That at least has some solid reasoning behind it.
I still think it slightly more likely to be a Mafia role, but at least now there is a solid counter argument.
Freddeh wrote: Ultimately, its all outguessing the mod Very true, but then, what would a game of Mafia be around here without a little outguess the Mod thrown in? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #975 Oct 30, 2013 18:55:48 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message @Ahlyis: If you were designing this game, no matter how bastard, would you design a member of the mafia to die so quickly and so easily? I think Zinger isn't that much of an **** when it comes to designing a game. If he were mafia, he could eventually become unlynchable and you said yourself that it would be a bit broken to have that. Whatever, I can't vote today anyways so my arguments are practically moot, right? We'll see who was right when(if) he dies. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #976 Oct 30, 2013 19:08:24
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Vote: Seppel Report Comment Allons-y! TOP REPLY QUOTE #977 Oct 30, 2013 19:10:43 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Well, I know I am a neutral after all, but speaking for a "theory" standpoint, my ability to raise the lynchhold of others doesn't seem to make a lot of sense for a Mafia player. Of course, one could argue WIFOM and Angry Mob Votes.
There's a reason listed for my low lynch count, but I am not quite sure about the internal logic of it. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #978 Oct 30, 2013 19:13:25 (Edited)
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LordMark wrote: @Ahlyis: If you were designing this game, no matter how bastard, would you design a member of the mafia to die so quickly and so easily? I think Zinger isn't that much of an **** when it comes to designing a game. If he were mafia, he could eventually become unlynchable and you said yourself that it would be a bit broken to have that. I wouldn't design a role that could that easily die of ANY alignment. If for some reason I did though, I'd more likely make it Mafia than anything else. IF he dies, he hurts the Mafia, BUT... he's less likely to die with fewer people that might vote for him.
As for him eventually becoming unlynchable... you assume he has told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth! What makes you think there is no cap on it? Or that it continues to function in LyLo? Or that it even exists at all? He definitely has an ability. I did get a PM from the mod giving me a choice and I did get voteblocked for the Day when I accepted. But there's nothing in anything I received that indicates he got anything in return. And while I got notification of a pointless voteblock against me, I didn't get any corresponding notification of a pointless lynch threshold increase for myself, which IS part of what he claims.
I do believe his claim... to a degree. But a lynch threshold of 2 is ridiculously low, regardless of alignment. You could easily end up lynched the moment the game starts. Player A posts "Confirm, and lynch that Rag guy, he always causes trouble" (and casts a vote). The next player echoes the sentiments and also casts a joke vote on Rag. Boom, insta-lynch and Day 1 ends after only 2 joke posts. Nothing personal, but that sounds like pretty bad design... IF what Lngr has claimed is the whole truth.
LordMark wrote: Whatever, I can't vote today anyways so my arguments are practically moot, right? We'll see who was right when(if) he dies. Fair enough. I cannot vote either and you're right that this is all just speculation right now. *shrugs* Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #979 Oct 30, 2013 19:22:27 (Reply to #978)
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Block User Direct Message Yeah, we're speculating on what he's said so far, that's all we can go on. Sure, he can be lying and that is what I'd like to find out. I'd rather not find out by lynching him though. That won't tell us about his abilities. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #980 Oct 30, 2013 19:42:26
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Ahlyis wrote: I do believe his claim... to a degree. But a lynch threshold of 2 is ridiculously low, regardless of alignment. You could easily end up lynched the moment the game starts. Player A posts "Confirm, and lynch that Rag guy, he always causes trouble" (and casts a vote). The next player echoes the sentiments and also casts a joke vote on Rag. Boom, insta-lynch and Day 1 ends after only 2 joke posts. Nothing personal, but that sounds like pretty bad design... IF what Lngr has claimed is the whole truth. Well, I did post the following note on the first page of the game for a reason: Zinger2099 wrote: MODNOTE: Please keep in mind that this is after all an invitational game. A lot of players are not regulars here. Some aren't even regulars to the game ( I know of at least one who never played mafia before ). For that reason I ask that you keep abreviations to a minimum. For example; RVS = Random voting stage. Not everyone will know that. Also, as a gentle reminder, a random voting stage in a game where players have different lynch thresholds is not recomended. But, what do I know about such matters. Vote away. I'm not advocating that LnG's lynch threshold is what he says it is, but I did plainly point out the potential hazards of randomly throwing your votes around in this game for the very reasons you just brought up. FYI.
In other news, Seppel_ has a grand total of 3.5 votes. I'm too lazy to put up a votecount right now. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Fair enough Zinger... though I'm not sure you should be poiting anything like that out. I don't see any real problem with it here, but I have noticed a tendency of yours to step in and clarify things when you really shouldn't be.
If the players are operating under false pretenses based on something that wasn't made clear, then by all means step in and clarify. But when they are operating under false pretenses through their own failure to pay attention... well, you really shouldn't be stepping in. This seems like a clear case of us simply not paying attention rather than us operating on muddled info.
It is quite possible that someone is intentionally misrepresenting things for their own ends. You shouldn't be interfering. That wasn't the case here, at least it wasn't on my part, but you still shouldn't have stepped in.
Just my *shrugs* Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #982 Oct 30, 2013 20:32:32
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Ahlyis wrote: Fair enough Zinger... though I'm not sure you should be poiting anything like that out. I don't see any real problem with it here, but I have noticed a tendency of yours to step in and clarify things when you really shouldn't be.
If the players are operating under false pretenses based on something that wasn't made clear, then by all means step in and clarify. But when they are operating under false pretenses through their own failure to pay attention... well, you really shouldn't be stepping in. This seems like a clear case of us simply not paying attention rather than us operating on muddled info.
It is quite possible that someone is intentionally misrepresenting things for their own ends. You shouldn't be interfering. That wasn't the case here, at least it wasn't on my part, but you still shouldn't have stepped in.
Just my *shrugs* I only did so because you called the balance of my game into question.
If someone is going to do so, I don't care what their intentions are, I'm going to refute their point. That's not interfering, that's upholding the sanctity of the game so that everyone knows they are playing under the same set of rules, however bastard those rules might be.
Now, if you wanted to say "I don't believe Player X's claim because I find it really hard to believe that Zinger would do that" I'm not going to step in and stop you from playing the dangerous game of outguess the mod. Go right ahead. But if you're going to say "I don't believe Player X's claim because I think that would be horribly imbalanced if it were true," well, I'm going to step in and smack you in the face and say "What the heck do you know about game balance? Have you seen the design file?" Etc... etc...
In fact, as of right now I am adding "Discussions about the game's balance while the game is still running is strictly forbiden" to the rules for just that reason, because I really don't want to have to step in and smack players upside the head for questioning what they know nothing about.
That being said, please continue to discuss the game setup to your heart's desires, please continue to play the outguess the mod games that you've been playing to your hearts desires, just leave your opinions on whether or not the game is balanced out of it.
I totally get what you are saying though, and I agree 100% that Mod's should not point things out when their players have it wrong most of the time. I assure you that I have no intention of interfering with the natural run of the game (beyond what is necessary). If you see cases where you think I am doing so, point it out, I'll endeavor to correct it. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message LordMark wrote: I'm pretty sure Seppel is not mafia. He's Magical Trevor and there's no way Trevor is evil, he's just a magician.
The problem is, he needs to be on a leash. He can't just make random people disappear(aside from Carnage).
Why are you basing assumptions on the mod's role play?
Zinger2099 wrote:
In other news, Seppel_ has a grand total of 3.5 votes. I'm too lazy to put up a votecount right now.
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Block User Direct Message The way I see things is that the only guarantee we have on grr's alignment is that it's not town. Lynching him causes the town no harm. Possible bonus if he flips scum. From a claim perspective we have a non town player that's going to continually get harder to lynch if we let him use his ability. There is some risk that he might not be self as claimed, thus letting him use his ability willy nilly is bad, mmkay. However, if we keep him around and keep his threshold low, he becomes a double liability in LyLo, he presents an easy mafia bandwagon target or could decide that ending the game then is in his better interest than allowing the town to procede and prolong his risk. Additionally, we have no visual evidence of him using his ability. So it's not like we can keep him in check if he decides to deal and his P.I.C.'s don't bother to come out and tell us. Further potential risk to the town.
What does the town benefit by keeping him alive now? Very little. He could deal with town. Or he could deal with scum. We don't know the alignments of who he's dealing with so we can't say town is definitely going to benefit from him being alive. Theoretically he doesn't know either so he can't guarantee he is only going to help town.
Running Risk vs Reward, the reward is astronomically low with the risk being rather high. Doesn't seem like a smart play to me.
[b]Unvote. Vote: LnGrrrR[/ b] Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #986 Oct 30, 2013 20:38:49 (Edited)
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Unvote. Vote: LnGrrrR Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #987 Oct 30, 2013 20:51:11 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I really am not sure what more you guys want me to do here. Do you want me to claim my role? Extra abilities? Fullclaim?
I mean, this looks like a fun game and I would like to play. Yes, my lynch threshold is extremely low. *shrug* It is what it is.
I figured that being one of the few who tried to actually hunt scum instead of good around with claims would endear me to town, but I guess I was wrong. Heck, if town really wants, I can aim my deal at who the town thinks I should aim them at.
Anyways, let me know what you guys want. Just lynching me to get to Night sounds like a horrible plan, and even though I won't reduce town numbers, I migh very well be needed to help side with town.
Look at the other non-voters: Iso and Ahl are both unlynchable, and I am extremely lynchable. I am going to assume that isn't random.
If you wish to lynch me after full claim, it's town's call, but I will be a little salty, not gonna lie. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #988 Oct 30, 2013 20:56:51 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Oh and with the whole "partners in crime" thing, feel free to direct my next deal, even the Night one. I will agree to send my Night deal to whoever the majority of players vote on.
Finally, fearmongering tends to be a scumtell. As does the whole "he might not help town" numbers game. So? Docs sometimes target scum, town sometimes lynch town etc etc. I am making all my deals public, and I am willing to let the town vote on them until I prove my good will.
@Jay, do you think Ahl is lying about his role? Do you think he is actually mafia? Otherwise the "partners in crime" thing doesn't make much sense. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #989 Oct 30, 2013 21:30:06
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Block User Direct Message @Purphoros: I'm basing it on the fact that he's said "Disappearin' the cow" more than once. Now I know it didn't work on Carnage but active abilities are limited to one per phase. He may have also said it was a 1-shot. Anyways, do whatever you want I am just saying I don't think he's mafia.
@Jay: Dude, you have been acting scummy since the moment I first set my eyes on you. Leave him alone, he's harmless.
@LnGrr: I am almost certain I know what you are and it's not mafia that's for sure. You're so close to dying, so you have a right to claim out of survival but if you give out too much info you'll be painting a target on yourself for the mafia to shoot you at night. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #990 Oct 30, 2013 22:05:28
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Block User Direct Message LordMark wrote: I'm pretty sure Seppel is not mafia. He's Magical Trevor and there's no way Trevor is evil, he's just a magician.
The problem is, he needs to be on a leash. He can't just make random people disappear(aside from Carnage).
I disagree that he should be allowed to abduct my cattle with his spacecraft. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #991 Oct 30, 2013 22:33:32 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message LordMark wrote: Leave him alone, he's harmless.
This statement is completely unqualifiable and given you've expressed more than just a vested interest in his ability, your opinion is quite biased.
If you would like to make a counter argument, do so with logic, not baseless assumptions. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #992 Oct 30, 2013 23:13:20 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I'm more interested in lynching scum than a neutral claim. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #993 Oct 30, 2013 23:14:38 (Reply to #991)
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Block User Direct Message He has offered his ability to voting because he's worried he'll be lynched, so my opinion is no longer biased. Also, I never make baseless assumptions. I speculate based on what I've read so far. If you payed a little more attention to detail you would probably come to the same conclusions. Again, it is possible he could be lying, but if we were to ignore everything then the game would fall to chaos. Something Carnage lives by. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #994 Oct 31, 2013 0:30:01
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Block User Direct Message So...I forgot about this game and I feel like a jackwagon. (not sure if we can swear here)
I would like to apologize to everyone in the game as I have been slacking and will do my best to do better.
Just skimming it looks like lynches on Iso, Ahlyis and Seppel have failed recently.
My vote is usless on Purphoros. Unvote: Purphoros.
Starting back at the beginning:
Arioch22 wrote:
IsoSTARDUST wrote: I'm pretty sure that if somebody had a lynch threshold of 0 that they would be lynched already.
While true, that doesn't mean lynch threshhold's are static and that certain events could in fact lower their threshold to 0. Source: this can happen to me. If you're lynch threshold becomes 0, you become dead, right?
JayDreven wrote: I dont' know why people are assuming Ahl is cleared, Zinger clearly said the ability had no effect.
@Ahl, are you actually mafia? You initially didn't think Ahl was cleared. Has that changed?
LordMark wrote: I see where you're coming from, and there are many things left unsaid in role PMs but even if you're right we should still discuss the idea that he may have been blocked. Tons of flavor/mod gaming from Lord Mark. I think that this is typically a way to avoid putting down concrete opinions. I think it would be especially unfruitful in this game. Something that I'm going to keep an eye on as I read through.
LordMark wrote: On the contrary, I think we should form an alliance like the Avengers and take out evil. It's probably what Zinger had in mind. Everyone has different abilities that can aid and interact with others, we need to find out what they are without helping the bad guys. That's why I want a base of operations. We're already giving them too much info. This is the second time that you mention a base and the first you mention an alliance. Isn't that what the town is supposed to be?
LordMark wrote: What kind of question is that? Of course there are town people. Might not be as many as some may think, but I'd wager there are at least 6 who are town. Curiously, LordMark did not say that he is town here.
JayDreven wrote:
Ahlyis wrote: I refuse to get into a game of "guess Ahl's role" by confirming or denying one guess after another.
You get this one response. After this, I will neither confirm nor deny any other guesses, no matter who they are from.
I am not Venom.
I don't really care who you are, just if you were venom or not. Although I will conclude from this that you are not as immortal as you say you are, otherwise you wouldn't fear your role being in the open. In Twilight there was nothing to stop you so you had no qualms with revealing everything. Here you clearly feel the need to hide some things, indicating that there's something detrimental to you within that information.
To that end, Vote: Ahl
@Mark, I was testing a game theory, so the confirmation or denial was necessary, although who ahl is or what player actually has venom is ultimately irrelevant given the answer. The theory has been busted. Jay has had some really good points up to now. I'm liking him for town.
Zinger2099 wrote: A package arrived in the mail today at the offices of the Daily Bugle addressed to the Publisher, J. Jonah Jameson. The package was fairly sizeable and there was no return address. Fearing for his life (he was threatened by a psychopath that morning), he of course had a nameless intern open it for him. The intern promptly puked, for inside he found the charred remains of an 8-year old girl.
Shockwave07, the Self-Aligned Missing Girl, has been found dead, killed with fire.
A note, scribed in blood, was found in the package. It reads:
Dear JJJ,
Thinking of you, Darling! I know our anniversary isn't coming for a while, but I thought I'd send you a gift anyhow.
Love, CARNAGE I may have missed something but here it says Shockwave died, but in the OP it says the unwritten was. Hoping to come across this answer.
Ok. This is through page 9. I will commit to reading more Thursday night. Again, I'm really sorry guys.
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Block User Direct Message And I know someone is going to dislike me doing catch up style posts, but that is how I'm best going to re-engage.
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Block User Direct Message @purphorus: So when the whole scum team claims to be neutral you'll be satisfied ignoring them simply because they claimed neutral without taking into account the effect they could have living on in the game?
@Mark, I have paid attention. I've ran the risk vs the reward. The risk won out. You've ignored all risks simply because you want the reward. That's why your opinion is biased. Grr's opinion is even more biased. I frankly don't care what he wants because he is not town. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #997 Oct 31, 2013 0:58:02 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Jay, could you please explain the "risks" and "rewards" of lynchpin me again? Bullet point style would be nice. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #998 Oct 31, 2013 1:06:41 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Dude it's like only ten posts up. You seriously can't go back ten posts to reread something? And people question why I think you're not beneficial to the town? Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #999 Oct 31, 2013 1:35:16 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message JayDreven wrote: @purphorus: So when the whole scum team claims to be neutral you'll be satisfied ignoring them simply because they claimed neutral without taking into account the effect they could have living on in the game?
Look at LnGrrrR's posts - is he posting from a "townie" mindset or a scummy mindset? I want you to evaluate for yourself.
Also nice job at doing slippery slope fallacy in your argument.
EtR wrote: So...I forgot about this game and I feel like a jackwagon. (not sure if we can swear here)
I would like to apologize to everyone in the game as I have been slacking and will do my best to do better.
Just skimming it looks like lynches on Iso, Ahlyis and Seppel have failed recently.
My vote is usless on Purphoros. Unvote: Purphoros.
Starting back at the beginning:
Arioch22 wrote:
IsoSTARDUST wrote: I'm pretty sure that if somebody had a lynch threshold of 0 that they would be lynched already.
While true, that doesn't mean lynch threshhold's are static and that certain events could in fact lower their threshold to 0. Source: this can happen to me. If you're lynch threshold becomes 0, you become dead, right?
JayDreven wrote: I dont' know why people are assuming Ahl is cleared, Zinger clearly said the ability had no effect.
@Ahl, are you actually mafia?
You initially didn't think Ahl was cleared. Has that changed?
LordMark wrote: I see where you're coming from, and there are many things left unsaid in role PMs but even if you're right we should still discuss the idea that he may have been blocked.
Tons of flavor/mod gaming from Lord Mark. I think that this is typically a way to avoid putting down concrete opinions. I think it would be especially unfruitful in this game. Something that I'm going to keep an eye on as I read through.
LordMark wrote: On the contrary, I think we should form an alliance like the Avengers and take out evil. It's probably what Zinger had in mind. Everyone has different abilities that can aid and interact with others, we need to find out what they are without helping the bad guys. That's why I want a base of operations. We're already giving them too much info.
This is the second time that you mention a base and the first you mention an alliance. Isn't that what the town is supposed to be?
LordMark wrote: What kind of question is that? Of course there are town people. Might not be as many as some may think, but I'd wager there are at least 6 who are town.
Curiously, LordMark did not say that he is town here.
JayDreven wrote:
Ahlyis wrote: I refuse to get into a game of "guess Ahl's role" by confirming or denying one guess after another.
You get this one response. After this, I will neither confirm nor deny any other guesses, no matter who they are from.
I am not Venom.
I don't really care who you are, just if you were venom or not. Although I will conclude from this that you are not as immortal as you say you are, otherwise you wouldn't fear your role being in the open. In Twilight there was nothing to stop you so you had no qualms with revealing everything. Here you clearly feel the need to hide some things, indicating that there's something detrimental to you within that information.
To that end, Vote: Ahl
@Mark, I was testing a game theory, so the confirmation or denial was necessary, although who ahl is or what player actually has venom is ultimately irrelevant given the answer. The theory has been busted.
Jay has had some really good points up to now. I'm liking him for town.
Zinger2099 wrote: A package arrived in the mail today at the offices of the Daily Bugle addressed to the Publisher, J. Jonah Jameson. The package was fairly sizeable and there was no return address. Fearing for his life (he was threatened by a psychopath that morning), he of course had a nameless intern open it for him. The intern promptly puked, for inside he found the charred remains of an 8-year old girl.
Shockwave07, the Self-Aligned Missing Girl, has been found dead, killed with fire.
A note, scribed in blood, was found in the package. It reads:
Dear JJJ,
Thinking of you, Darling! I know our anniversary isn't coming for a while, but I thought I'd send you a gift anyhow.
Love, CARNAGE
I may have missed something but here it says Shockwave died, but in the OP it says the unwritten was. Hoping to come across this answer.
Ok. This is through page 9. I will commit to reading more Thursday night. Again, I'm really sorry guys.
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Block User Direct Message Everyone, we've tested Ahlys and Carnage, be diplomatic here Vote Freddeh
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Block User Direct Message I meant Also, yeah, sorry LnGrrR, but... you probably aren't town and it's taken a long time for this day and lycnhing a confirmed non-townie isn't the worst we could do Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message why are you apologizing to somebody who isn't town and isn't actively trying to kill you
hey Jay, what if there aren't any scum? :o This is a bastard game, after all. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #1004 Oct 31, 2013 3:53:21 (Edited)
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@ jay: while I'm sure lngr isn't town, I'm also pretty sure he's not scum. He seems vulnerable now, and perhaps could become stronger as the game goes on, so there is arguably a risk in keeping him alive, but I'd rather try and hit scum rather than just settle for non-town.
@ purphoros: I'm going to echo shockwaves question "what slip?". If this is some bs for "reactions" I'm not going to be happy. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1005 Oct 31, 2013 4:18:39
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@LnG: I clearly stated that my most powerful town read is on Mark... at least 3 times since the game started
@Purphoros: man, you're all over the place. You're going to vote me again after this post
@everyone defending LnG: I have nothing against the guy and I personally like his attitude towards the game. However it boils down to three simple facts: - we have extended the day too long and I am starting to lose interest (I bet others are as well) which means that we need something to change - simple math: 1 neutral lynched = 1 town not lynched - it is common sense that in or close to LyLo neutrals can play a very important part in the game outcome. It hasn't been just once that one of the mafia team outright claimed in lylo telling the self to vote with them and he won't die in the night => instant win in LyLo; Furthermore, I like to play it self and never trust someone that has a secret agenda.
As for the topic of getting impatient to using my night ability, that may be the case but I doubt that has something to do with my alignments... more like something to do with my ability(es).
Sooo, I'll bite, Jay. Unvote, Vote: LnGrrrR Let's see what happens now. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #1006 Oct 31, 2013 6:38:22 (Edited)
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Zinger. Your new rule is absolute BULLCRAP!
Yo are now adding rules to dictate how we are allowed to play just because you don't like to see something which might throw your design into question? Seriously?
I very nearly asked to be replaced on the spot. Your argument that there is a significant difference between playing outguess the mod and throwing doubt onto the game balance is specious and completely flawed.
I thought about it and I finally decided that asking to be replaced was doing nothing but acting as childish about it as I feel you have been in introducing the rule in the first place.
So instead, I've decided to completely ignore it. If I feel like questioning the balance of the game might be a useful tactic or solid counter argument, I AM GOING TO DO SO! Let the punishments fly. I don't care.
What's next? Outlawing calling you bad names? If I call you a ninny am I going to be punished? If I talk bad about Carnage as the subject for a Mafia game, am I going to be punished? What other topics are taboo that we should be aware of so you don't have to interfere even further and slap more rules down on us?
And if you don't like my "tone" in this post, so what? Is that the next Rule coming? "Rule #4,783: Thou shalt not say anything bad about the Mod, or question him in any way. Punishment for this offense may include immediate Modkill. You have been warned."
If I sound a bit ticked off... GOOD! Because I am.
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Murica wrote: It hasn't been just once that one of the mafia team outright claimed in lylo telling the self to vote with them and he won't die in the night => instant win in LyLo; References please.
I cannot think of a single game in all the time I've been here where that happened. Now I grant that you have a longer history here than I do, but if all your examples are from 6+ years ago, involving players that have been gone for ages, well, yeah...
You present that as if it is something relevant that has happened often enough that we should be aware of it. I challenge that. References please.
Murica wrote: Furthermore, I like to play it self and never trust someone that has a secret agenda.
So... you don't trust yourself even?
Everyone in this game has at least one hidden agenda. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US! Every player has an additional wincon on top of whatever alignment wincon they might have.
Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1008 Oct 31, 2013 6:41:30 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Fun game guys.
Town better get theirs heads out of their reads to win.
for funsies, my other two abilities:
Grant an extra life to someone (after they did, they come back) God Mode (+5 to lynch)
Somebody who is voting me is scum. Voting to lynch a guy with 3 vote lynch threshold literally does barely anything for town in the way of vote interactions.
Thanks for taking the easy way out. [/sarcasm] Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1009 Oct 31, 2013 6:50:25 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Edit: Is that two or three votes on me? If two, Im at L-1.
And Jay, your risk/reward ratio was a bunch of BS, frankly. What are the "risks" to keepin me alive? That I am mafia? Boy, it sucks that you couldn't use, I don't know, analysis to figure that out? Or maybe someone has a PR?
The only "reward" is that you aren't killing town. Yippee! Im sure those three votes that lynch me will completely help you solve the game state.
Not to mention that I have no way of increasing my lynch total except by others agreeing to it. OOOOHHH dangerous! Surely ending the Day makes sense instead of looking for more scum.
Oh and you wonder why I think BE is scum, look at the few posts above. "Sorry etc etc" with no vote.
Iso, if that was the lynch, please kill ten or twenty random people for me. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1010 Oct 31, 2013 7:20:20 (Edited)
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User @Ahlyis: Respectung the mod and your fellow players is like the first rule in the game. Also, you're wrong. My introduction of the new rule isn't put of a childish standpoint. I have banned those types of discussions in my games mulitple times in the past simply because, quite frankly, there is no valid game tactic that involves calling the game's balance into question. You can question the game design without questioning the balance. Now I am posting this from a phone and I hate phone posts so I'm going to stop this here, but you you actually violated no less than 4 rules in your last two posts. I urge you to calm down, reread the rules, and if you still have issue with them we can discuss that privately. I am not dictating how you are allowed to play. I am choosing to be patient with you this time but next time you want to throw a fit you won't need to be replaced. You'll be modkilled. If you are going to blatantly disregard so many rules in your posting you tie my hands. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
The Tomb of Horrors Discussion. TOP REPLY EDIT DELETE QUOTE #1011 Oct 31, 2013 7:34:40
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L-0 Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1012 Oct 31, 2013 7:48:42
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Block User Direct Message Zinger2099 wrote: MODNOTE: The following rule has been added to the General Rules, effective immediately:
Zinger2099 wrote: 5. Discussions about the game's balance are strictly forbidden while the game is still running. Can we discuss the balance of seesaws? :trolo: and whether or not a seesaw would tip if the game was placed on it? We're still totally talking about seesaws. IsoSTARDUST wrote: I go to a raceway. I steal a car and drive into the pit. My crew is waiting. 4 guys to replace my tires, 1 to fuel me up, and 1 to tell me I'm pretty.
I drive over all of them. Screw the pit crew.
Bodycount: 68 Man, good thing GiftsTrix wasn't there. He'd have totally stopped you like he stopped Whiplash...
Except maybe not, because your apparently invincible. I heard that you took out the Avengers. How could you hurt poor Zinger like that? IsoSTARDUST wrote:
LnGrrrR wrote: I was wondering why Iso had stopped killing.
When you have to think of ways to kill dozens of people, you start to run out of creativity. :shrug:
Fortunately, I saw American Psycho last night. Iso, u r disappoint
Anyway, on to the serious parts @LnGrrR, you're at 2 votes. However, I see little use of you. The reviver is useful, but without knowing for sure someone's town, that lynch increase is just too risky to use. Lucky for you, LYNCHING YOU TODAY IS A TERRIBLE TERRIBLE IDEA.
@B_E, Is there some reason you don't believe what you say? Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #1013 Oct 31, 2013 7:48:42 (Edited)
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Ahlyis wrote:
Murica wrote: It hasn't been just once that one of the mafia team outright claimed in lylo telling the self to vote with them and he won't die in the night => instant win in LyLo; References please.
I cannot think of a single game in all the time I've been here where that happened. Now I grant that you have a longer history here than I do, but if all your examples are from 6+ years ago, involving players that have been gone for ages, well, yeah...
You present that as if it is something relevant that has happened often enough that we should be aware of it. I challenge that. References please.
Blast from the past is the only game I barely remember. We used the self aligned people there to win. There was a game I was not part of, but pretty certain it was after you joined, in which the self aligned gave the deal to the mafia, and not the other way around => mafia took it an won
[quote="Ahlyis"] Murica wrote: Furthermore, I like to play it self and never trust someone that has a secret agenda.
So... you don't trust yourself even?
Everyone in this game has at least one hidden agenda. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US! Every player has an additional wincon on top of whatever alignment wincon they might have.[quote="Ahlyis"]
I do not have a secret agenda. My personal wincon is related with a condition that the town must reach in order to win. I am playing, as such, under the assumption that there are at least other town aligned players that do not have a secret agenda, if not most of them.
As a self aligned on the other hand (and you may call it whatever you want, you are self aligned) you have no such example to base a general assumption on.
PS: Once I saw Seppel posting I knew he hammered Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #1014 Oct 31, 2013 8:18:28
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User A Lynch Decision has been reached. LnGrrrR will hang. Death post to arrive within 24 hours, which will signal the start of Night. It is now Twilight. You may continue to post as though it were Day. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message @Seppel, why you gotta be like that?
Ah well. Lose a game of Mafia, and my team wins a World Series. Overall, I am up in the grand scheme of things. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1016 Oct 31, 2013 9:02:45
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Block User Direct Message So ends our first day. But I do want to address a few things before it closes. Starting with this one.
Lordmark: I think some flavor gaming is good, but I can't help but think you're putting a) too much stock into it, and b) jumping to conclusions based on poor evidence.
For examples: where in the world would you get that magical Trevor and Star Wars are getting mixed into this? I may not know much about the former, but does that even make sense flavor wise? (The latter most of my knowledge comes from the movies/few games.)
Not everything is a flavor case, especially those who have yet to have any flavor attached to them. Though I must admit here that I have been flavor gaming a few cases to possible alignments based on abilities. If I think it makes little sense for a player to have an ability and not be an associated hero I won't press it like it was the opposite without a finger flipping good reason. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #1017 Oct 31, 2013 9:44:23 (Edited)
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Seppel_ wrote: unvote, vote LnGrrrR
L-0
It's because if this that I want to lynch Seppel, perhaps tomorrow will be easier to do so. Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #1018 Oct 31, 2013 10:38:15 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message EtR wrote: If you're lynch threshold becomes 0, you become dead, right? Yes.
@Purph - Yeah, I'm on the not seeing the slip team. Please elaborate. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1020 Oct 31, 2013 11:15:45
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Block User Direct Message @Purphorus: He's playing from a self mindset. This is apparent from his trying to appease the town to his bargaining to live. Town doesn't bargain to live, they recognize when they are a greater threat to the town then a benefit and oft call for their own lynch at a given point. Purphorus did not display such behavior.
@Iso: What are you talking about? You're scum, so there's no doubt.
@Grr: If the only risk you could see is that you might be mafia then you are far too downplaying the matter. Murica has even been discussing the major risk and you still don't mention it. The facts are you'd be a loose cannon that would need to be quelled eventually before we got too far into the game. During the time you were alive you could do town minor good with your deals, or you could do them harm by dealing with people that are in actuality oppossed to the town, even if you don't think they are. The move I took was a preemptive strike from a logical standpoint, nothing more. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1021 Oct 31, 2013 11:27:55
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Block User Direct Message Damn, sorry LnGr. That really sucks.
@Everyone who voted LnGr: You had no reason for killing him today. In a few days from now he would have a less than average threshold no matter how many deals he made. Reason for killing him today? None.
@Shockwave: I agree the star wars idea was a little far-fetched, but so is Trevor and yet I'm sure of it. Why would he write "disappearin' the cow" to activate his ability if he weren't Trevor? My abilities don't require me to post to use them, so why would he show that he's the one making people disappear? He could have remained the happy mask salesman. You never know, he could have been anything.
Before night falls I want to reveal my speculation about LnGr. To me, it is pretty obvious that LnGr is a cartridge for the Super Nintendo. Rag's picture was a huge hint. The other hint was his ability. Giving players "cheats"(plus the picture) could most definitely mean that he is a Game Genie with Maximum Carnage inside. Or something like that. If I'm right, maybe people will stop questioning my judgement.
@Ahlyis: you should be able to post at night with Carnage, if you didn't know that already. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #1022 Oct 31, 2013 12:10:49 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Actually, I am the game. That is the "logic" behind my low threshold... I am only a video game. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1023 Oct 31, 2013 12:17:09 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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Except I told you I was totally willing to make deals according to the vote of other players, meaning you would get more information. And saying that I "could" hurt town is dumb, frankly. Townies "could" lynch town too.
Heck, as noted, I don't even have a way to increase my own lynch by myself, so if PoE came about you could just not accept my deals.
And of course I am playing from a self-mindset! I am self-aligned. Stop being dumb. Why would I accept a lynch to "help town" when that loses me the game? Heck, I figured me being one of the few scum hunting already put a target on my back.
Either you are scum, or you are illogical. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1024 Oct 31, 2013 12:40:05 (Edited) tmich Joined May 2012 1037 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I have been ill continuously from thursday, somehow. I should have been more careful since it's pretty easy to get ill at my age, especially if you are careless like I was,fortunately it was nothing scary like arthritis or osteoporosis.
I have skimmed the thread. I can't believe that you guys: 1)accepted to increase the lynch treshold of a claimed neutral. 2)lynched a claimed neutral. Seriously all the town aligned players on that wagon,if any, should rethink their strategy(to not say anything rude).. And after we stopped people from voting iso and ahl and we could start to lynch mafia!
@lgr:why did you see clinic as townish? @etr:can you link me a post where you scumhunted TY, (I'm trying to remember one). @all,I don't remember a lot of posts accusing B_E, why is he less scummy than the other people?
I was not seeing seppel as scummy and didn't get the hate on him,after that hammer I need to think a little more about that.
I'm still recovering, I will try to post something decent at the beginning of D2.
Yes, this is kind of a prod dodge, deal with it.
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Block User Direct Message LnGrrrR wrote: And of course I am playing from a self-mindset! I am self-aligned. Stop being dumb. Why would I accept a lynch to "help town" when that loses me the game? Heck, I figured me being one of the few scum hunting already put a target on my back.
Either you are scum, or you are illogical.
I like how you go from saying you are more vested in your interests than the towns and then say I'm illogical for voting for you on the basis that you'll eventually betray the town to suit your own interests. I don't really care if you are going to bargain to save yourself because you've made it clear that your interests are your top priorioty, which bargaining as self is aimed at showing you'll put town's interest above yours in exchange for staying alive. Your bargaining, however, banked on the notion that town would want to use your abilities more than it would worry about you being a problem down the road. Your abilities don't provide that big of a benefit and town has no way of guaranteeing town will reap those benefits though. Logic dictates the threat be removed now, before it has a chance to do irrepairable harm. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1026 Oct 31, 2013 12:48:29 (Edited)
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User On a completely unrelated and totally off-topic matter, this is how I went to school today:
Happy Halloween folks! Allons-y! Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message I'm Captain Hammer.
...and that was not the hammer. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1028 Oct 31, 2013 13:00:02 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Jay, and I love how assume that town's interests don't align with mine. I see nothing that would've prevented me from helping town, since one claimed neutral is Carnage (obviously anti-town) and the other is a true neutral (with multiple wincons that might or might not benefit town). I see no reason why my interests can't align with town's interests.
And how the heck do you know that increasing the lynch threshold isn't a benefit? Especially in a bastard game like this one?
And since she are you, Murica or Seppel conftown? Did you even ask the rest of town what they thought about it? LordMark wanted to use my ability, ever think to ask him? Nope, the three of you speak for town I guess!
@Seppel, explain now. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1029 Oct 31, 2013 13:05:20 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Tmich, I just don't see anything coming from a scummy mindset from Clinic. Phone posting so I can't point to specific posts, but it feels like Clinic is trying to feel the game out from a townie mindset. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1030 Oct 31, 2013 13:14:21
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LordMark wrote: @Ahlyis: you should be able to post at night with Carnage, if you didn't know that already. Seeing as how I started posting before the game even began, yeah, I probably knew I could post at night. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1031 Oct 31, 2013 13:16:23
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LnGrrrR wrote: Actually, I am the game. That is the "logic" behind my low threshold... I am only a video game. *drops the controller*
Ugh. That's pretty disturbing. I've been sitting here for hours playing with Lngr?
I think I need a shower, or at the very least to wash my hands, thoroughly! Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1032 Oct 31, 2013 13:39:40 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message LnGrrrR wrote: @Jay, and I love how assume that town's interests don't align with mine. I see nothing that would've prevented me from helping town, since one claimed neutral is Carnage (obviously anti-town) and the other is a true neutral (with multiple wincons that might or might not benefit town). I see no reason why my interests can't align with town's interests.
And how the heck do you know that increasing the lynch threshold isn't a benefit? Especially in a bastard game like this one?
And since she are you, Murica or Seppel conftown? Did you even ask the rest of town what they thought about it? LordMark wanted to use my ability, ever think to ask him? Nope, the three of you speak for town I guess!
I never said your interests directly opposed the towns. I said at the point in which they do come to that point, you'll betray the town. You've already stated as much with the lynch example. You said you'd oppose it even if it was in the town's best interest because it's contradictory to yours. That's not a hard concept to grasp.
That depends on who you are increasing. As I said before for it to be a benefit to the town you'd have to be exclusively dealing with town. You do not know other peoples alignments. Other people don't know other people's alignments. We do not know the faction break down of the game, so we can't even say for certain that town would control a majority of the people voting (if, for example, there are a plethora of self alignments in the game, which we've already had quite a few claims already). The benefits you provide would be negligible.
I do speak for town. I'm a superhero. I get to make those judgement calls. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1033 Oct 31, 2013 13:40:24
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Block User Direct Message I see Zinger dressed up as Jedcaj for halloween. <_< Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1034 Oct 31, 2013 13:42:06 (Edited)
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Zinger2099 wrote: you actually violated no less than 4 rules in your last two posts. I was going to challenge this, but decided to take a look at the rules again, first. Interesting. I violated the first 4 rules you possibly could violate... technically...
Rules from Post #2 wrote: 1) Please read, understand, and obey all the rules. 2) I reserve the right to modify these rules if necessary. Usually if I make changes to the rules I will inform everyone in the game thread (See Bastard Rules). 3) Be respectful of your Mod (me) and your fellow players. Mafia can get heated at times; try to remember that it is just a game. 4) Questions, requests, or concerns about the game or the rules should be directed to me by PM. Requests for votecounts and prodding are the only acceptable ones that can be made in the game thread. Others will be ignored. 5) Discussions about the game's balance are strictly forbidden while the game is still running. ... 9) I reserve the right to discipline a player for violation of these rules HOWEVER I SEE FIT, ranging from the most insignificant slap on the wrist all the way to the dreaded Modkill, and everything in between. 1) If you violate any other Rule, you also violated this Rule. 2) Impossible to violate. Not sure why this is a "Rule" that we are expected to follow. 3) Yep. I definitely violated this one. 4) Yep. Violated this one too... but then again, so has a large number of players in the game. Do any of you realize that, while asking for a votecount is acceptable, asking the mod about the accuracy of the votecount can get you Modkilled if you do it in thread?!?! That's right. ANY question or concern you pose to the Mod in the game thread is grounds for Modkill! I'm not saying you "will" get modkilled for it, just that, according to Rules 4 and 9, you "can" be modkilled for it! 5) I don't see where I violated this one in the last two posts referenced, but this was the whole topic of that first post, so it likely qualifies as well. If not, I'm sure there's at least one more in there somewhere that I violated.
Given what I feel is the capricious nature of some of these Rules (especially Rule #4) and the way Rule #9 gives him the right to Modkill for even the slightest violation...
I'm going to stop caring about the Rules at all. *shrugs*
I'm going to continue to post and to play the way I always have, and if I get modkilled for it, so be it. I'll try to be better about Rule #3 going forward. Not because it is a Rule, but just because it is good advice. I don't promise to always succeed, but whatever.
Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1035 Oct 31, 2013 14:01:59 (Edited)
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User I've seen some mods get away with making it a rule that you can't even discuss game design at all in the game and that you have to base your discussion and play off of reading other people instead of outguessing the mod. I don't see anything wrong with that, personally, if a Mod decides he or she doesn't want the discussion of the game design to outweigh the discussion of the game itself.
That being said, I have not outlawed discussion of game design, merely design balance. Here is a clear example of what is and isn't okay in that mindset: This is OKAY wrote: I think that the fact that we have a few double voters balances out the fact that we have a few non-voters in the game design. This is NOT OKAY wrote: I think that Zinger made a greivous error by including this kind of role in his game because it is obviously broken.
Speculate about game design all you like. Leave your CRITIQUE of the game design and its balance until after the game is over with.
I do not think I am being an unfair mod by saying this and I do not think that I am infringing on how you play the game either. Furthermore, and perhaps most importantly, I don't care how righteous or justified anyone might feel in their "crusade" against what they perceive is an unjust ruling. The fact of the matter is: even if you are perfectly justified in questioning one of my rulings it is not your place to challenge that ruling in the middle of the game thread. You have access to PMs which I will happily respond to. Challenging the mod in his game thread is a severe breach of respect both to the mod and the person wearing the mod-hat and I will not stand for it. Doing so is probably one of the fastest ways to get modkilled in the game, short of quoting your role PM in thread.
This is all I want to say on the matter. I hope I don't have to bring this up again. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message @Jay: ur dum
@Zinger: I think it's a little ridiculous that we can't disagree with elements of the setup while the game is in progress. That seems a little totalitarianistic. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #1038 Oct 31, 2013 14:31:18 (Edited)
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User IsoSTARDUST wrote: @Zinger: I think it's a little ridiculous that we can't disagree with elements of the setup while the game is in progress. That seems a little totalitarianistic. It is totalitarianistic. Deal with it. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
The Tomb of Horrors Discussion. TOP REPLY EDIT DELETE QUOTE #1039 Oct 31, 2013 14:34:10 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Jay, you don't speak for "town". You speak for yourself, who MIGHT be town. (Sorry for not accepting your claim outright.) What if other town wanted me alive? Oh, I guess then who cares because Jay is the new VOICE OF TOWN!
Hear that other town members? Oh don't have to pla anymore, or make decisions. Oh can just rely on the great and mighty Jay to tell you how to vote, how to use your abilities and everything else, because he knows WHAT IS BEST FOR TOWN.
I notice you had no rebuttal to the fact that my flip tells town nearly nothing, and doesn't provide analysis on later days. Or the fact that I was trying to scumhunt. Or really anything else.
You don't know the setup, so stop acting like you do. I might have been important, or helped unlock a townie power, but I guess we will never know now, will we?
Why don't you just solve the game now, since you obviously know what is best for town and what every role is included in the game for?
Heck, at the least you could've given me a chance until toMorrow to use my ability. It is the one cool thing about my role, with a huge drawback to boot. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1040 Oct 31, 2013 16:39:00
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Block User Direct Message LnGrrrR wrote: @Jay, you don't speak for "town". You speak for yourself, who MIGHT be town. (Sorry for not accepting your claim outright.) What if other town wanted me alive? Oh, I guess then who cares because Jay is the new VOICE OF TOWN!
Hear that other town members? Oh don't have to pla anymore, or make decisions. Oh can just rely on the great and mighty Jay to tell you how to vote, how to use your abilities and everything else, because he knows WHAT IS BEST FOR TOWN.
I notice you had no rebuttal to the fact that my flip tells town nearly nothing, and doesn't provide analysis on later days. Or the fact that I was trying to scumhunt. Or really anything else.
You don't know the setup, so stop acting like you do. I might have been important, or helped unlock a townie power, but I guess we will never know now, will we?
Why don't you just solve the game now, since you obviously know what is best for town and what every role is included in the game for?
Heck, at the least you could've given me a chance until toMorrow to use my ability. It is the one cool thing about my role, with a huge drawback to boot.
^ This. 100% agreed. Jay must have been controlled by Shriek(assuming he's a hero) because he's been acting like a douchebag who thinks he owns the place.
On another note, I laughed at every little joke on this page. Applause goes to Seppel, Jay, Ahlyis and Zinger. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #1041 Oct 31, 2013 16:43:20
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Block User Direct Message Sounds like JD to me LordMark.
YAY NIGHT 1!
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Block User Direct Message If Murica, Freddeh and Jay are all town, town is screwed this game. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1043 Oct 31, 2013 17:07:52
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Block User Direct Message Don't let Jay get under your skin, hez dum. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #1044 Oct 31, 2013 17:13:38 (Edited)
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IsoSTARDUST wrote: Don't let Jay get under your skin, hez dum. Out of curiosity... by your estimation, which of us is NOT "dum"? Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1045 Oct 31, 2013 17:31:25 (Edited)
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I find it hard to believe that a claimed neutral gets so much support. Jay does not speak for the town. Jay did not claim to speak for the town. Jay, as part of the town (which he probably is) acted in the best interest of the town, as he saw fit. We might be wrong, but then again, the risk is not worth taking.
It's not a matter of whether you are following the town's interest now (which I am pretty certain you are not - because you claim to give the town the opportunity to decide what to do with your role, but so far you have not - it was your own decision); it's a matter of whether you will always be so willing to help, because I see no reason for you to do. On the plus side, you seem to be a pretty smart guy, regardless the deliberate running in circles and you are proving right now, against your better judgement, that simple revenge is more important to you than town gaining an advantage of a bad situation.
At no point did you consider how much of a threat your role is by itself, and it is common sense that roles that are a threat are dealt with as soon as possible, because later on in the game we might not have time for you. Did you ever consider that you decrease the LyLo? At a L-2 state it takes 2 mafiates to bring LyLo 1 day earlier. And we can go on. I find it very hard to come up with one single reason for you to survive the day at the most likely cost of a townie.
And I am willing to continue this discussion after the game ends, but I have a feeling that you won't be so pasionate to argue at that point. The fact is done, be the bigger man and admit it was not a bad play, regardless of personal interest and the such. Even boiling it down to "not town = threat" is reason enough to get rid of you, yet you bring so much more reason.
And on the other hand, what advantage does mafia gain out of getting rid of you that you claim so strongly that one of us is scum. I saw several players saying that this is a bad play but I never saw anyone saying WHY it is a bad play. Just because it does not fit your agenda does not make it a bad play. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #1046 Oct 31, 2013 17:32:10
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@Zinger: Would have been 100 times more awesome if you had a Tardis Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #1047 Oct 31, 2013 17:37:45 (Edited) LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message @Murica, how exactly is my role a "threat"? Because I can increase my lynch threshold?
Considering that there are at least two other unlynchable players, and one prett much unlynchable player, do you not think there are ways to deal with that in this game?
And what's the worst thing is the timing. People keep complaining that this Day is running too long, and yet, what scumhunting has really occurred? Barely any.
It is a good play for mafia because you get nearly NO information from my flip, you take out someone who was actually willing to scumhunt, and now scum gets to kill a townie. If I had been allowed to hunt scum, then I could've forced the mafia to NK me in order to deal with me.
' I am not saying lynching a neutral is bad in every case. I am saying it is bad in THIS case. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1048 Oct 31, 2013 17:56:33
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There is always information to be drawn from every death. Connections can be made regardless. For example, in your case you have some pretty decent support (I can't figure out why but you do). There are a lot of connections there which we can come back to analyze once we find out that information.
You also claim that you are willing to scumhunt in a game that, so far, has had very little scumhunting. What scumhunting did you do in order to earn our trust? Your actions have proved quire the opposite. You brought in a game mechanic that turned the town's perspective away from scumhunting (as is the post marathon around your ability and your choice of targets). I ask you, how does that bring us any information? In your short time here how did you help the town in any way? I am sorry, but no matter how willing you are to scumhunt your actions will, or at least should, be taken with a grain of salt. And also, no matter how "bad" this play is we get information from it and tomorrow we will have 1 dead townies instead of two (which is where a day with no scumhunting, as you put it, is usually leading). Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #1049 Oct 31, 2013 18:27:53 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message @Murica: Had he survived long enough, I might have had the ability to cripple Carnage. Now it's going to have to be someone else, and we have no idea who that someone else is or whether that person will even survive the night.
Nicely done everyone. You've taken away a big town weapon without even thinking it through. Oh and again, there was absolutely NO RISK to letting him live THIS NIGHT. Even 3 days he would have been lynchable easier than those that failed today. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #1050 Oct 31, 2013 18:45:15 (Edited)
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The risk in letting him live this night was that it was much more likely a townie would have died.
Also, I am not going to go on a fishing expedition based on might have and could have. Partly because of Zinger's new rule and partly because I'm pretty sure we can still lynch him without extra support. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #1051 Oct 31, 2013 19:22:40
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Regarding Lngr's lynch...
Murica wrote: I saw several players saying that this is a bad play but I never saw anyone saying WHY it is a bad play. I would say that it would have been a bad play had it happened earlier.
Given how long this day has gone already, I think it is fine. But had this lynch happened in the early parts of the Day, it would certainly have been a bad play.
I don't think it was a "good" play. I think trying to find and lynch Scum would have been a "better" play. But I won't call this a "bad" play at this point. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1052 Oct 31, 2013 19:44:03
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Murica wrote: @Zinger: Would have been 100 times more awesome if you had a Tardis I did actually.
Who needs companions when your Tardis looks like that! Yowza! Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message @Murica, did you think about the reason I brought up my mechanic? Because I was at L-1 with one vote on me? I pretty much had to spill. Raganarok didn't really do me a whole lot of flavored by doing nothing.
And I have at least tried to provide reads and questioned a few others, which is more than at least half the game.
Hey, what's Freddeh done in this game? How about you Murica? What case have you presented? It is hard to attack when you replace in and are forced to play defense. What's your excuse?
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Alright that's plenty enough time for Twilight.
[DAY 1] FINAL VOTECOUNT; or, the "LnGrrrR's gonna hang" votecount.
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Zinger2099 wrote: Alright that's plenty enough time for Twilight. That means it is Night now. No more posting unless you are Carnage or want to incur the Mod's wrath! Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1056 Nov 03, 2013 14:31:06 (Edited)
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User CHAOS fills the city streets. CARNAGE is back in town and in one short day he has made very good on his promise to paint the town RED. It doesn't take long before tension comes to a head even amongst the good guys. Everyone is pointing fingers and shifting blame. They soon start loosing their minds over what is happening and their inability to stop it. And where is your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man in all this? Well according to the comics right around now he is bleeding to death in a dark alley somewhere while his wife sits at home and stresses about the fact that the sun has set and he's not home yet. So much for that promise.
Once the usual suspects have finally started to get organised it doesn't take long before little LnGrrrR is in their sights. Despite protests from the others, JayDreven, Murica, and Seppel_ all take it upon themselves to do what no one else has the courage to do and push LnGrrrR to the breaking point. It's a dirty business, killing someone, but desperate times call for desperate meassures. Besides, they aren't really killing someone because he wasn't really a person anyway.
LnGrrrR, the Self-Aligned Video Game lies shattered in pieces on the floor. It will never be played again. GAME OVER LnGrrrR
LnGrrrR's Role PM + Secrets!
IT IS NOW NIGHT 1. NIGHT 1 WILL LAST APPROXIMATELY 74 HOURS (50 + 24 because of Saturday).
As the first Night since the mayhem began descends on the city many are too afraid to sleep. Others stay up not out of fear, but out of desire to not waste a second hunting down their targets (whether those targets be bad guys or good or simple innocent bystanders, who's to say).
Please remember the following rules governing Nights: Zinger2099 wrote: Night phases will last approximately 50 HOURS. You have that long to submit any Night actions to me. Night actions not submitted in the time limit allowed will either go unused or will be chosen for you, based on whichever is most detrimental to your team. If you wish to refrain from using your Night action, you must still submit a PM to me identifying that as your choice. If all Night actions are submitted in a timely fashion, I will end the Night prematurely. Saturdays don't count towards any time limits in the game. For example: Night phases that span a Saturday will thus last an extra 24 hours. Do not post in the game thread during the Night phase unless your Role PM allows you to do so. Ignoring this rule will rob you of your vote the next Day.
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Screw the rules. I'm posting anyway.
At least LnGrrrR was self and not town, but I would still prefer to see a mafia or Carnage dead. I don't like his role that much so I'm glad to see it gone.
On an off-topic note, at least Zinger has good taste. I feel flattered that he dressed up as me. Now the question on everyone's mind: Was your TARDIS bigger on the inside? Report Comment Allons-y! TOP REPLY QUOTE #1058 Nov 01, 2013 1:03:12 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Yeah, bad lynch. He was harmless.
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Block User Direct Message Also, how could a video game be deguised as a person. NO FLAVOUR! (he must have got an extra role beyond the 21 the mod planned for)
Also also, it seems in this game we get the whole role PM and more on death.
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So, yeah, I'm an insomniac as well.
Bac Lngr lynch folks... but I think it does display the wonkyness that we can expect from this game from here on. Report Comment "Enjoy your screams, Sarpadia - they will soon be muffled beneath snow and ice."
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Block User Direct Message Ahlyis wrote: IsoSTARDUST wrote: Don't let Jay get under your skin, hez dum.
Out of curiosity... by your estimation, which of us is NOT "dum"?
Dunno, I've been mostly focused on Jay because hez dum.
At any rate, I do need to ask Zinger something about my post restriction (specifically whether or not it applies to Night). Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #1063 Nov 01, 2013 6:27:52
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Block User Direct Message Oh yay, I won't be penalized for birthday celebrations this weekend. :toot: Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #1064 Nov 01, 2013 6:39:05
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Burning_Earth wrote: Yeah, bad lynch. He was harmless.
Oh, yeah, I talk at night,
This was not a bad lynch:
1) We didn't lynch town,
2) Mafia could easily lynch him at LyLo to win the game.
So I say that it was actually a good lynch for day 1. Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #1065 Nov 01, 2013 13:30:42 (Edited)
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According to the rules, anyone that doesn't have a vote can talk at night, regardless whether their Role PM has that ability built in or not. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1066 Nov 01, 2013 17:25:44
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How was that a bad lynch? B_E and Tevish, please explain why it was a bad lynch? Report Comment Allons-y! TOP REPLY QUOTE #1067 Nov 01, 2013 18:30:00 (Edited)
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Burning_Earth wrote: We lynched a harmless and claimable person. If that ain't a bad lynch, what is? When you lynch town! Report Comment The avatar of laziness TOP REPLY QUOTE #1069 Nov 01, 2013 18:39:52 (Edited)
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Generally, lynching a survivor-type (harmless third-party) is not a positive outcome for the town, because they are effectivley part of our numbers. Lynching one who was decently active, willing to assist us, and had claimed in good faith is, further, a mistake -- we would have gotten more information and a possible scum flip out of a lurker lynch Report Comment "Enjoy your screams, Sarpadia - they will soon be muffled beneath snow and ice."
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Pdr_Br wrote:
Burning_Earth wrote: We lynched a harmless and claimable person. If that ain't a bad lynch, what is?
When you lynch town! Lynching Town is a "worse" outcome. That doesn't mean that this one wasn't "bad".
From my perspective, this certainly wasn't a "good" lynch as some are trying to make it seem. But I'm not certain I would qualify it as a "bad" lynch either. Town should have looked for a better lynch though. From that perspective, perhaps this was a bad lynch. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1071 Nov 01, 2013 19:48:59
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Six insomniacs (of one form or another)? Impressive.
Anyone else going to join the conversation? Come on. You just lose your vote for tomorrow. What's the big deal? The Angry Mob votes will take care of the lynch so that Day doesn't go forever. Join the conversation! Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1072 Nov 01, 2013 20:09:54 (Edited)
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Ahlyis wrote: From my perspective, this certainly wasn't a "good" lynch as some are trying to make it seem. But I'm not certain I would qualify it as a "bad" lynch either. Town should have looked for a better lynch though. From that perspective, perhaps this was a bad lynch. Pretty much my sympathies. This was not a bad lynch because we didn't lynch town. This was a good lynch because it got rid of a role that could mess with people. This was neither the best nor worst lynch. Report Comment Allons-y! TOP REPLY QUOTE #1073 Nov 03, 2013 11:01:04 (Edited)
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Jedcaj wrote: On an off-topic note, at least Zinger has good taste. I feel flattered that he dressed up as me. Now the question on everyone's mind: Was your TARDIS bigger on the inside? No comment. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Night 1 deadline extension to Monday at around 2PM EST.
I will still however end Night early if all actions have been submitted.
Also, new rule: Zinger2099 wrote: Nights will never end on a Weekend. If a Night would otherwise end on a Weekend, it ends sometime in the afternoon on the following Monday instead. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Johnny_Combo_Player has failed to respond to a PM prod. This is the third time I have had to prod him. Time for some more divine intervention!
LnGrrrR is miraculously revived and Johnny_Combo_Player magically returns from whereever he was missing! In a display of interspecies/video game erotica that is not-safe-for-message-boards display the two somehow swap roles (among other things). It is really quite disturbing to watch. Horrified by the images that can now not-be-unseen, Johnny_Combo_Player is quickly re-lynched while LnGrrrR is banished back to whereever Johnny_Combo_Player came from.
Johnny_Combo_Player is now dead, he was MAXIMUM CARNAGE, the Self-Aligned Video Game.
LnGrrrR is now missing, presumably with whatever role Johnny_Combo_Player formerly had.
(Modnote: This is my fancy way of syaing LnGrrrR replaces Johnny_Combo_Player.) Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User I just want to remind people once again of this rule:
Zinger2099 wrote: Night actions not submitted in the time limit allowed will either go unused or will be chosen for you, based on whichever is most detrimental to your team. If you wish to refrain from using your Night action, you must still submit a PM to me identifying that as your choice.
I can't emphasize this enough. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User MODNOTE: Once you submit an action to me your choice is final. Ergo, if you chose to target someone at that start of the Night and then later in the Night want to change your mind, you're out of luck.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User There are two players yet to submit their night actions. I am running out of patience and they are running out of time. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User As light starts to gleam around the corners of the city skyscrappers signalling the start of Dawn the city that never sleeps is eerily quiet. Those who stayed up all night rioting have finally passed out and those who chose to hide in their homes are too afraid to leave. And what does this means for the heroes? Another Day is starting, with its own share of horrors to bring.
It is now Dawn of the second Day. No more Night Actions will be accepted. If you have Dawn abilities you must submit them within the next 8 hours.
You may continue to post in the game thread during Dawn only if you are allowed to do so during the Night.
Day 2 will begin as soon as I have returned all Night action results and all Dawn actions have been submitted or 8 hours has elapsed, whichever comes first. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 wrote: It is now Dawn of the second Day.
Refraining from posting a Majora's Mask screenshot.
Y'all can thank me later. Report Comment "Enjoy your screams, Sarpadia - they will soon be muffled beneath snow and ice."
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I have some interesting results, but I'll wait for Day and we see the fallout from the Night before deciding what to share and what to keep hidden.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Little Billy Barker had always been afraid of monsters. Growing up his mom had to check every nook and cranny of his bedroom to make sure it was all clear before she would turn off the light, and even then there was always a nightlight that stayed on. Now, even as an adult, Billy checks every room of his house every time he comes home. It's a silly idiosyncrasy, a habit that carried over from his childhood into his adult life. He knows that monsters aren't real, years of his mother and several child psychologists have made sure of that. He knows it so well that this morning as he was walking down broadway he had to blink three times before his eyes registered what he saw. Finally, at long last, his fears were justified, and in the last moment of his life he knew that everything his mother had told him up to now was a lie.
I'm sorry Billy, but Monsters are real!
DAY 2: Demons On Broadway
Three bodies have turned up in the city streets this morning:
Pdr_Br, the enigmatic Publisher of the Daily Bugle himself, J. Jonah Jameson, Town-Aligned Blowhard; who was gunned down in the middle of a tirade! Jedcaj, the insane serial killer who's name has been hitting the headlines a lot lately, Cletus Kasady, Self-Aligned Psychopath; met his end at the behest of a pumpkin bomb! and Seppel_ (what's he even doing here anyway), otherwise known as Magical Trevor, Troll-Aligned Crazy Wizard; who witnesses say was brutally murdered by Venom! It's been a bloody Night, let's see if the Day can do better! With 18 alive and accounted for, the "Majority Lynch" is 10; probably.
EXTRA! EXTRA! CARNAGE CAUSING CARNAGE!
Today, Cletus Kasady escaped from Riker's and has gone on a rampage, killing any who gets in his path. It his highly advisable that the citizen's stay indoors while S.H.I.E.L.D and the superheroes plan on what to do. The Avengers were first on scene, but all were cut down by Carnage, including the lovely Wasp. The Daily Bugle was informed by Agent Coulson that a distress call has been put out to the X-Men, as well as the other heroes that are loners. He declined to comment on the possibility of bringing in the Thunderbolts. Can Carnage be stopped?
The current rumors say no.
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Daykill: Jay Dreven
Because hez dum.
Also, no wonder I couldn't kill Jedcaj. :o Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #1084 Nov 04, 2013 23:47:37
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Block User Direct Message I think exactly as it sounds LnGrrrR. Our own resident Troll is dead.
...Slipping into a completely different game as if it was this one makes a lot more sense now. And holy hell the bodies are piling up fast. Five deaths by day 2 start and looks like Iso is already picking another target.
Bets on this one flipping town? Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #1086 Nov 04, 2013 23:53:55
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Block User Direct Message EBWOP: Burning Earth. Avatars are getting mixed up somehow. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #1087 Nov 04, 2013 23:57:10 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Remember my GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN action?
I've decided to coup d'etat and instil myself as Town Mayor.
MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia is now an Autocratic state, supported by the Theros gods themselves.
To sit in the presence of Purphoros is to be inspired.
I apparently have a weird voting restriction due to this.
Vote Murica
The NSA, at my endless beck and call, has found Murica an enemy of the state. (Case coming soon, not a cop investigation)
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Block User Direct Message Shockwave07 wrote: Bets on this one flipping town?
I'll bet you this one doesn't flip, because Carnage is just some poser wanna be. The real Carnage just died. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1089 Nov 05, 2013 0:24:58
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Block User Direct Message Everyone, be democratic Vote Freddeh Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message How is voting me with crappy/no reasoning being 'democratic' again?
If anything, you're the one acting anti-town, trying to dictate lynches based off of arbitrary 'top 3' voting, which is a terrible way to scumhunt btw. Report Comment Mafia History (Most Fun and/or Favorites listed) TOP REPLY QUOTE #1092 Nov 05, 2013 2:01:07 (Edited)
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Purphoros wrote: (Case coming soon
Do you perhaps have anything besides the case on me that you might want to explain? Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #1093 Nov 05, 2013 2:11:21
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Block User Direct Message HAHAHAHAHA Carnage tried to kill himself. That's rich.
Oh wonderful and magnamus mod! Oh great and powerful mod! Are role PMs forthcoming like with LnGrrrR?
Purphoros, are you the Green Goblin? Actually, that makes me curious about how current Zinger is being. That kind of governmental power suggests Norman Osborne when he's the President, but that happens well after Max Carnage. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #1094 Nov 05, 2013 3:26:39
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Resyx wrote: Purphoros, are you the Green Goblin?
I doubt it, unless there is a big flavor difference between the Spiderman movies I have seen and this universe. Report Comment "I see the face of greatness" PariahKing TOP REPLY QUOTE #1095 Nov 05, 2013 3:35:38
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Block User Direct Message JayDreven wrote: Shockwave07 wrote: Bets on this one flipping town?
I'll bet you this one doesn't flip, because Carnage is just some poser wanna be. The real Carnage just died.
umad bro
Murica wrote: Resyx wrote: Purphoros, are you the Green Goblin?
I doubt it, unless there is a big flavor difference between the Spiderman movies I have seen and this universe.
Don't answer questions directed towards other people. Also, there is. Also, why am I trying to scumhunt? I should be spending my time killing innocent bystanders. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #1096 Nov 05, 2013 3:40:19
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Block User Direct Message Considering Carnage never appears in the movies, I wouldn't go off them for flavor There's near 50 years of Spidey storylines for the Earth-616 (that'd be the main continuity) and only about 8 hours worth of movie run time. The real problem with the movies is that they aren't bound by Status Quo is God. For example, in the Civil War storyline, Iron Man arrest Captain America, who ends up getting assassinated by Red Skull and Arnim Zola. Because of SQiG, they used some nonsensical plot device to basically phase Cap out of time, for some period. After he comes back, he takes out Osborn (who I've found out wasn't president, but was the executive of the Thunderbolts). Also, Norman Osborn is the REAL Iron Patriot. Not James Rhodes...
So yeah, if Zinger's been keeping up-to-date with the happenings of the Marvel Universe 616, it's very possible that Purph's complete governmental power comes from being Norman Osborn as the Iron Patriot. There are two other options. My Razor points to Osborn, though. It should be noted that he was locked in a super special prison (even more special than the Raft, Vault, Big House and the Cube). However, he broke out, but then turned himself in to serve time in the Raft until his day of court.
Now that we've all had a lesson on Norman Osborn, back to Purphoros. No worries, since Cletus was self-aligned, I won't even hold it against you if you are, since Osborn could totally be. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #1098 Nov 05, 2013 11:36:18 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Power corrupts. Absolute power... Corrupts absolutely.
I laugh at your attempts to guess my role based on the mod's role play.
I think it would be a good idea to reveal one of my abilities, called NSA Wiretapping. I wiretapped everyone last night to find out if they're an enemy of the state. I can't decipher the messages on my own, but the rest of the town and I can.
Essentially, what this means:
If you're an ally of the state, you have an increased lynch threshold.
If you're an enemy of the state, you have the same lynch threshold as before.
What this means: We can test everybody today to see if they have an increased lynch threshold. If they do, then they are an ally of the state and should be left alone. If they become lynched, then we can safely assume they're a terrorist.
With that in mind, I propose a mass alignment and lynch threshold claim.
I'll start. I am the Town Mayor/King/Dictator/Autocrat, and I have a regular lynch threshold that's affected by my ability.
Popcorn to Resyx.
Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #1099 Nov 05, 2013 11:40:50 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Burning_Earth wrote: Everyone, be democratic Vote Freddeh
Democracy is but a dream.
Unless you dispose of me, which.. would be inadvisable, with IsoSTARDUST running around and killing people.
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Purphoros wrote: I propose a mass alignment and lynch threshold claim. I have no alignment. I have no lynch threshold.
How would you like to test my claim? Attempt to run me up again? IF you wish. *shrugs* Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1101 Nov 05, 2013 14:21:53
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I have some info to share now based on overnight returns...
- Someone tried to roleblock me last night. Well, the PM claims they DID roleblock me, which is funny since my action went through anyway! Also, another side effect of the ability is that I cannot speak in thread today... Whoops! Well, I cannot speak other than to vote... Whoops! Yeah, I can still speak. No, I still have no vote. *shrugs* Looks like their ability was an abysmal failure.. except for what it revealed TO me...
- Whoever roleblocked me was looking for someone else. I'm guessing they chose me because I let it be known in thread that I have a freaking ton of abilities. They were looking for "Master Planner". Sadly, for them, that is not who I am.
- To whoever IS Master Planner, hide, well. Someone is looking for you!
- I managed to network someone last night (which is how I know the Roleblock failed). I can now talk outside the thread with them. It's just a simple network though. I didn't get any info about their alignment or role. I just get to talk to them outside the thread now. I will let them decide whether or not to reveal who they are. It doesn't really matter to me, but I don't want to decide for them whether or not they want their network connection revealed. I've revealed the existence of the network as a whole, they can choose whether or not to reveal their presence on it.
- The network ability is the limited use ability that I lost one use of yesterday when I posted in Red. I had already tried to Network Seppel earlier and it failed for some reason. I don't know why Seppel wasn't able to be networked. I only have one use remaining, so I can only add one other person to the Network. I have no desire to use it right now. I want to hold the last use until I am sure about one of two things. A) That being Networked isn't tied to any of my wincons, or B) That I figure out "who" I need to Network if it is tied to one of my wincons. I don't see how it is tied to any of "my" wincons unless it is through someone else's wincon. Hey, anyone out there "need" to be networked to meet their wincon?
- I also used an ability at twilight, but I don't see any reason to share the results with the rest of you. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1102 Nov 05, 2013 14:27:32
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EBWOP: I was just looking at the roleblock PM I received and there's one other piece of info in it that might be helpful... or detrimental... for me to reveal.
It specified that the roleblock occurred because I was hit by a massive sonic energy pulse.
It doesn't really mean anything to me beyond some inkling that that is how Carnage was originally displaced. But maybe it means something to someone else.
Oh and Purphoros, be sure to ignore that info, even if it might be helpful to you, because it came from me and you're not reading anything I post. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1103 Nov 05, 2013 15:49:40
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote: Power corrupts. Absolute power... Corrupts absolutely.
I laugh at your attempts to guess my role based on the mod's role play.
I think it would be a good idea to reveal one of my abilities, called NSA Wiretapping. I wiretapped everyone last night to find out if they're an enemy of the state. I can't decipher the messages on my own, but the rest of the town and I can.
Essentially, what this means:
If you're an ally of the state, you have an increased lynch threshold.
If you're an enemy of the state, you have the same lynch threshold as before.
What this means: We can test everybody today to see if they have an increased lynch threshold. If they do, then they are an ally of the state and should be left alone. If they become lynched, then we can safely assume they're a terrorist.
With that in mind, I propose a mass alignment and lynch threshold claim.
I'll start. I am the Town Mayor/King/Dictator/Autocrat, and I have a regular lynch threshold that's affected by my ability.
Popcorn to Resyx.
Don't care about order, already claimed. Neutral/Unlynchable Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #1104 Nov 05, 2013 17:46:02
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Block User Direct Message LordMark is Spiderman and I am 100% sure of it. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #1105 Nov 05, 2013 17:48:09 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Also he is Nightkillable. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #1106 Nov 05, 2013 17:59:18
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Block User Direct Message Zokorad wrote: LordMark is Spiderman and I am 100% sure of it. 1. How are you sure? You are going to need to give a little bit more info than that I think if you want people to take you seriously. 2. Assuming you are truth-telling, you outing Spider-Man and saying he is killable is pretty much admitting that you are not a hero and want Spider-Man dead. 3. Hey guys, should we lynch Zoko now or later? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1107 Nov 05, 2013 19:03:07 (Reply to #1091)
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freddeh wrote: How is voting me with crappy/no reasoning being 'democratic' again?
If anything, you're the one acting anti-town, trying to dictate lynches based off of arbitrary 'top 3' voting, which is a terrible way to scumhunt btw. I'm not one of freddeh's biggest fans but I actually agree with him on this.
@ purph: One of my passive abilities is that I can't be affected by abilities which change lynch threshold, so mine is the same as before.
@ zokorad: yeah, you're going to have to explain your motivation behind outing spiderman. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #1108 Nov 05, 2013 19:29:06 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Actually I don't want Spiderman Dead. My other potential personal Motivation relates to this reveal going a certain direction and if I give too many details, it would hurt me.. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #1109 Nov 05, 2013 19:52:44
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Block User Direct Message @Everyone: It's time I reveal the truth about why I said that I thought there were at least 6 town in the game. As I've said before, most of what I say is speculation but the following should be considered much more than that.
Though this game is bastard, most of the character roles in it are likely characters from the maximum carnage story arc(even though Carnage is not Kasady). Here is a list of the main characters in the story and what I currently perceive as their possible alignments(all of them): Most-likely mafia: -Carnage(mafia, self) -Carrion(mafia) -Doppelganger(mafia) -Demogoblin(mafia, self) -Shriek(mafia) Most-likely town: -Black Cat(town) -Captain America(town) -Cloak(town) -Dagger(town) -Deathlok(town) -Firestar(town) -Iron Fist(town) -J. Jonah Jameson(town, self) -Morbius(self, town) -Mary Jane Watson(town, self) -Spider-man(town) -Spider-woman(town) -Venom(self, town) So as you see, there are at least 10 possible town among the main characters in maximum carnage, whereas there are only 5 or so mafia. The reason why I said at least 6 before was because I didn't think every character on this list would be in the game(JJ and MJ for example). Now it's possible that there are roles that may not fall in that list so 6 town is a fairly low number considering the possibilities. Of course, there might be other villains, too. In fact, I might know of one already. If you'd like to ask any questions about this post feel free, I will try my best to explain.
@Arioch & Clinic: It's okay, people have been thinking this since I punched Carnage in the face, metaphorically speaking. Though even if what he saw when/if he investigated me pointed towards(or outright stated) that I was Spider-man, doesn't mean that he can show proof of that or anything else he receives in pm.
I'd also like to point out that there may be more than one role that might return as Spider-man when investigated(whether or not that role is actually Spider-man). For example, I believe it's possible the Doppelganger would show up as Spider-man to most investigations. I guarantee that I am not the doppelganger, but that doesn't mean I'm Spider-man, either.
@Zokorad For all you know, my role bounces investigations to another role at random. So don't ever say that you know something with 100% certainty because it might not always be the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Also, why would you out Spidey anyways? What purpose do you have for him to be in the spotlight? Is your personal wincon to have him murdered(at night, especially)? Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #1110 Nov 05, 2013 20:22:27
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LordMark... So... your claim of at least 6 Town is based 100% on speculation and not on anything in your Role PM?
Feel free to dodge if you want. I don't actually care. I just find it interesting that you try to justify your 6 Town claim with a post that shows nothing but pure speculation. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1111 Nov 05, 2013 20:26:19 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message @Zoko: I knew it!
...But these personal goals are going to get someone killed if we're not careful.
Since, Zoko has a NLP (No lie policy) in effect it means this recent info dump must be true. (Whether or not it is the best move is another question...) Either way if your personal goal is what I think it is, I'll lend my abilities to it.
@Burning Earth: ...That's an odd vote you placed. Like Freddeh said a vote with no reason. I can speculate why, but I find this point leads into it. Purphoros has somehow copped one of the "Video Game" LnGrrrR wagon, Murica, but instead of testing the catch or the person who did the cop, you want to go your own way. Now I don't doubt it was an easy wagon for scum to be on, maybe even start! But I don't think it's something you should vote just for that matter alone.
Your vote has raised my suspicion on you for that. Can you show other evidence that Freddeh might be scum? Or should we put to the test this cop catch? Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #1112 Nov 05, 2013 22:40:02 (Edited)
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I do know for a fact that a "spider-man" role exists in this game. I also know for a fact that spider-man is bulletproof, but capable of losing bulletproof status.
I do not know who Spider-man is. Report Comment "Enjoy your screams, Sarpadia - they will soon be muffled beneath snow and ice."
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freddeh wrote: How is voting me with crappy/no reasoning being 'democratic' again?
If anything, you're the one acting anti-town, trying to dictate lynches based off of arbitrary 'top 3' voting, which is a terrible way to scumhunt btw. I'm not one of freddeh's biggest fans but I actually agree with him on this.
@ purph: One of my passive abilities is that I can't be affected by abilities which change lynch threshold, so mine is the same as before.
@ zokorad: yeah, you're going to have to explain your motivation behind outing spiderman.
Claim your alignment.
Chop chop, people. If you refuse you will be sent to the gulags.
Actually I'm going to make this a Speak Now massclaim so that this gets hurried up faster.
People should claim alignment and lynch threshold in their next post. Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #1114 Nov 05, 2013 23:34:01 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message @Purphoros: Town and Normal majority lynch threshold (according to my pm at least). Report Comment Mafia History (Most Fun and/or Favorites listed) TOP REPLY QUOTE #1115 Nov 05, 2013 23:52:01 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Town, majority with one ability caveat. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #1116 Nov 06, 2013 0:00:01 Purphoros Joined Sep 2013 92 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message How do I remove the "erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">" from my signature? Report Comment erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">"Power corrupts. erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Absolute power... erdana, sans-serif; color:rgb(0, 0, 0)">Corrupts absolutely." TOP REPLY QUOTE #1117 Nov 06, 2013 0:14:36
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote: People should claim alignment and lynch threshold in their next post.
No. Your plan is dumb. It doesn't take into account other abilities that would cause fluxuating lynch threshholds not to mention anybody could just lie about their threshold with us having no way to verify that they are lying vs something else affecting their threshold.
I find it interesting that Zoko didn't get into the how of his claim, just the (very vague) why.
@Shock, since Zoko hasn't gotten into the how, we cannot take his words to be under his NLP. If it's just a belief, there's room for error. If it's an ability, Mark has gone over a few things that would cause misinformation. Then there's the fact that this is a bastard game and Zinger could just be lying to Zoko for shigs and gittles. Report Comment This is a signature. TOP REPLY QUOTE #1118 Nov 06, 2013 0:33:55
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Block User Direct Message @Purphoros: town, regular threshold.
@Ahlyis: IT WAS speculation to begin with, and so what? I've said half a dozen times that most of what I say is based purely on speculation. It always will. You speculate about your OWN ROLE. So excuse me if I'm playing differently than you're expecting me to. If you were sitting next to me, I'd slap you across the head.
That aside, it is no longer speculation. Please note that I said "should be considered more than that" near the top of my post. Many of the people in this game are in fact in that list. The death of Jameson is proof. Originally I thought JJ and MJ would be vanilla(I still think they should have been) so I excluded them from my town count. Since we know that everyone has abilities, we can be sure that JJ and MJ(if she is in the game) have some abilities. What those could be I wouldn't know where to begin.
On another note, I've always had suspicions that the green goblin was in the game, but now I think I know who he is. Not that it matters. I'm pretty certain I've listed the whole mafia team anyway. Report Comment Excelsior! - Stan Lee TOP REPLY QUOTE #1119 Nov 06, 2013 1:22:59
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Block User Direct Message Purphoros wrote: Power corrupts. Absolute power... Corrupts absolutely.
I laugh at your attempts to guess my role based on the mod's role play.
I think it would be a good idea to reveal one of my abilities, called NSA Wiretapping. I wiretapped everyone last night to find out if they're an enemy of the state. I can't decipher the messages on my own, but the rest of the town and I can.
Essentially, what this means:
If you're an ally of the state, you have an increased lynch threshold.
If you're an enemy of the state, you have the same lynch threshold as before.
What this means: We can test everybody today to see if they have an increased lynch threshold. If they do, then they are an ally of the state and should be left alone. If they become lynched, then we can safely assume they're a terrorist.
With that in mind, I propose a mass alignment and lynch threshold claim.
I'll start. I am the Town Mayor/King/Dictator/Autocrat, and I have a regular lynch threshold that's affected by my ability.
Popcorn to Resyx.
Oh come on! Don't play me like that, bro. My Razors burn to know!
Town and my threshold is majority. This does explain Zinger's opening of Day 2 where he mentioned that the threshold "is 10 probably" Arioch22 wrote:
Zokorad wrote: LordMark is Spiderman and I am 100% sure of it.
1. How are you sure? You are going to need to give a little bit more info than that I think if you want people to take you seriously. 2. Assuming you are truth-telling, you outing Spider-Man and saying he is killable is pretty much admitting that you are not a hero and want Spider-Man dead. 3. Hey guys, should we lynch Zoko now or later? I would be up for a Zoko lynch. I may be guessing at who people are (because I'm a huge flavor buff), but to out him? Spidey has enemies! Next thing we'll see is him outting Mary Jane just so Doc Ock can go after her or something. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #1120 Nov 06, 2013 1:25:21 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Townie, majority lynch Report Comment
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Block User Direct Message Unvote, Vote Purphoros.
Your plan is to test people for lynch threshold.
A: What if there is some secret interaction that messes up your ability
B: Other threshold modifier abilities.
Along with the not answering questions D1, I'm happy to -put my vote on you.
By all means though, test me if you want. You'll find I'm town. Report Comment
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Arioch22 wrote: While I don't have a problem with Ahl/Iso MVPs, I don't think I did that bad.
I was instrumental in the death of MJ (which Ahl needed to win) and Carnage (which won it for town when even the mod thought Carnage had it in the bag).
When I was in danger of being lynched (which would have made Ahl more vulnerable in multiple ways) I buckled down and sniffed out scum Shock to stay off the chopping block.
I feel like I made some decent calls and plays. I'm not saying I deserve MVP, but I don't feel like I should be lumped in with the, "sucked really hard" group.
I said TOWN sucked really hard. I wasn't lumping you in with town since you spent most of the game as a Goblin-Aligned player.
I didn't think your play sucked. Not MVP but certainly didn't suck. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User tmich wrote: Wow,I have just read the cult qt. did they really believe clinic claim?because just reading who the baddies were on wikipedia really made it easy to guess it was fake. Ps.I think proph was one of the town MVPs(until he left the game) Proph ragequit, making him one of the town LVPs (least valuable players), if there were such a thing. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Ahlyis wrote:
Zinger2099 wrote: Also, for those who are curious, Ahlyis' actual Lynch Threshold was Majority+1+X, where X was the number of Goblin-Aligned characters in the game (living or dead).
On Day 1 you guys got him to that number but he had a temporary +1 to his lynch threshold because he was playing that Maximum Carnage video game, which saved his life.
In the end when it was him versus spidey on like, Day 4 was it? The only reason it wasn't an auto-win for Ahlyis is because technically he could have lost if everyone including his goblin lackey had voted for him. But that wasn't likely to happen.
Wow. Bastard game indeed!!!
From_My_Role_PM wrote: You don’t have a Lynch-Threshold because you cannot be Lynched. I thought that, even in bastard games, you weren't allowed to outright LIE in a role PM. You can fail to tell them all the details about their role, but you aren't supposed to outright LIE in a role PM! Yours is the only role PM that had an outright LIE in it. Everyone else were able to 100% trust the info in their role PMs. Your role PM, if you check the spectator thread where I admit such, is possibly one of the worst single cases of bastardry in the game. That being said, there is one tiny hint in your role PM to give you cause to potentially doubt it's truthfulness. Under your goblin formula, it says "it also has driven you insane, which has....side effects." That's the hint. It's not obvious, but it is there. Which is better than nothing. In any event, you won.
You have a secret (hidden) ability that is worded something like this (going off memory, not at my computer at the moment): Delusions of Grandure (Passive): Norman Osborn believes he is unlynchable. In reality, his lynch threshold is Majority+1+X where X is the number of goblin aligned players in the game. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User IsoSTARDUST wrote: Also, I liked that I basically said, "Guys, I'm killing everyone, but I'm totally not a threat to the town! Don't mind me!"
@Zinger: Will you post the full setup? Not tonight, probably not tomorrow either. Expect the full setup on Wednesday. School is keeping me hela busy right now and posting the full setup will likely take a good hour or so... lol Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User While you will probably have to wait until wednesday for me to post the full setup, if you have any specific questions I can answer those more easily.
Fun fact: while Ahlyis was lead to believe that JD was his only valid target, LordMark would have been pulled out for the final showdown had JD already been dead and LM was still alive, and that would have sufficed for his wincon. Same goes for anyone else who's wincon or personal motivation related to spider-man. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
The Tomb of Horrors Discussion. TOP REPLY EDIT DELETE QUOTE #2447 Mar 24, 2014 19:09:23 tmich Joined May 2012 1037 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I...disagree on proph, he played well for a good chunk of the game. What was seppel? Just a fancy jester? And that missing girl? Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #2448 Mar 24, 2014 19:15:34 (Edited)
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User tmich wrote: I...disagree on proph, he played well for a good chunk of the game. What was seppel? Just a fancy jester? And that missing girl? Anyone who ragequits invalidates all prior play in my book and goes to the bottom of the ****. Ragequitting is a serious offence in a game that relies on everyone playing their part to make it progress smoothely.
Seppel was basically just a fancy jester.
that missing girl had access to the original mafia quicktopic and could spy on them, but had the restriction of not being allowed to post in the main thread. when shockwave violatedb that restriction his fate was sealed. There was a chance that if he had stayed hidden he could have later been freed and unveiled all his info to everyone. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Yeah town won!!
Boo I lost!! Report Comment When I said it wasn't sarcasm, that was probably sarcasm. ~Thor665 Mafia Record Mafia Games Mana Symbols Combat Step Formatting?- What's that?- http://community.wizards.com/filter/tips TOP REPLY QUOTE #2451 Mar 25, 2014 2:29:28
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User PeregrineV wrote: Yeah town won!!
Boo I lost!!
Oh yeah, that reminds me, something else I quickly realized I didn't like: Posting restrictions. Remind me never to use them again. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 wrote: Oh yeah, that reminds me, something else I quickly realized I didn't like: Posting restrictions. Remind me never to use them again. Posting restriction CAN be effective, but only if done right.
For example, in one of my games, I gave someone a posting restriction that they had a choice whether to obey or not. they were bulletproof as long as they kept to the restriction, but lost bulletproof for any night following a day where they violated the restriction. That let them know exactly what the consequences were if they felt a need to post more than normally allowed for them, but gacve them the choice.
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Block User Direct Message I think this would've been an entirely different game had 2 of my comrades not been modkilled and 1 stolen away from me by Ahl.
I feel like any mafia overtaken by the Goblin formula should've retained their mafia alignment. Not just from my "**** I lost" perspective, but from an overall fairness perspective - there was nothing stopping Clinic from saying "lol hay carnage is mafia, this is how he's lynched, and the others are totes dead" aside from possibly his personal motivation which I don't actually know - so there could've been something there. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #2454 Mar 25, 2014 15:57:29 tmich Joined May 2012 1037 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I agree on the two modkilled players, but clinic being janitored was what kept you alive so much longer after he died imo,also of the three wagons d f2reddeh could have confirmed himself(a problem of the set up,but still an option) and B_E claiming would have resulted in a dayvig shot with both clinic and murica being suspected. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #2455 Mar 25, 2014 15:42:58 LnGrrrR Joined Oct 2013 149 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message I still think that town lynching me as the video game D1 was dumb as hell and didn't do anything to help the town. Town started off D2 in the same condition they did D1.
I am glad that Ahylis stayed alive d1 solely because he was playing me as a video game. Serves town that lynched me right lol Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #2456 Mar 25, 2014 15:58:33 tmich Joined May 2012 1037 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
Block User Direct Message Town? It was a mafia aligned player, a jester and Jay Dreven in the middle of an argument with someone else, none of those was playing to reach a town aligned wincon.<_<. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #2457 Mar 25, 2014 19:23:42
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User IsoSTARDUST wrote: I think this would've been an entirely different game had 2 of my comrades not been modkilled and 1 stolen away from me by Ahl.
I feel like any mafia overtaken by the Goblin formula should've retained their mafia alignment. Not just from my "**** I lost" perspective, but from an overall fairness perspective - there was nothing stopping Clinic from saying "lol hay carnage is mafia, this is how he's lynched, and the others are totes dead" aside from possibly his personal motivation which I don't actually know - so there could've been something there. In the event that Ahl "culted" a mafia member, as was the case with Clinic, his personal motivation is changed to "thou shalt not reveal the identities or even your involvement with your former allies", which is why he lied to Ahl saying he was self.
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Block User Direct Message So the personal wincons did come into play in a good way. Feel a bit of a bummer how the modkills did come into play in a very big way, but I have a feeling if the didn't happen town would have picked up on us anyways... Maybe. Just my feelings. Report Comment Magic color test RPG Personality TOP REPLY QUOTE #2459 Mar 26, 2014 2:43:33
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Block User Direct Message Curse that Doppleganger ability! I totally investigated him N1 and got spidey! Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #2460 Mar 26, 2014 16:27:32
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Zokorad wrote: You said you would post the design file today
I did. Swamped with real life stuff. My apologies.
Ugh, if anyone is actually seriously impatiently anxious for the design file like right now, say so and I will inconvenience myself to post it.
BUT if you guys don't mind waiting another couple of days I could really use the time to spend on homework instead of posting design files.
Yeah. If anyone is seriously bothered by the delay, say so and I will inconvenience myself to post it earlier. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message *shrug*, life > forum mafia. Report Comment Mafia History (Most Fun and/or Favorites listed) TOP REPLY QUOTE #2464 Mar 27, 2014 13:30:25
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Freddeh wrote: *shrug*, life > forum mafia. Buh?
How can you say such a thing?
(Seriously though, while I certainly want to see the design file, waiting a few more days isn't a big deal.) Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #2465 Mar 27, 2014 13:36:17 (Edited) tmich Joined May 2012 1037 Posts View All Posts View Profile Follow
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You know, I was kinda lurky mostly due to half-abandoning these forums for NGA, but other than that I was kind of happy with my play. I think that given what I knew, I tended to do the right thing
I also think that despte some frustration for a while, this was a good game that could have been a great game if only a) the boardpocalypse hadn't tanked activity (mine and others) and b) the days had freeking time limits (I agree with Zinger that the differing lynch thresholds are totally worth it and that, in hindsight, no hammer = no lynch and generous days is the way to go with it). It's a lot like what I wish my Conspiracy Mafia had been able to be.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Alright, the school week from hell is finally over. I should go to bed (as I have to wake up in 5 hours to go to work), buuuuut I know you guys have been patiently awaiting the design file soooo I will sit here for as long as I can putting up pieces of it until I pass out from exhaustion. Hopefully, I will be able to get it all up tonight, but if not you''ll get a good chunk tonight and the rest maybe tomorrow evening.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Let's start with Role PMs and get through as many of these as I can first. Starting with the ones you know (or think you know).
MAXIMUM CARNAGE the Video Game (Ragnarokio, LnGrrrR) Spider-Doppelganger (tikomhoi1, Murica) Shriek (EtR)
Venom (edeon) Carrion (The_Unwritten, Shockwave07) The Amazing Spider-Man (Jaydreven, Prophylaxis)
And a couple you haven't seen yet:
The Spectacular Spider-Man (LordMark) Carnage (IsoSTARDUST)
That's all for now because I am exhausted and my laptop is dying and I don't want to get out of bed to go digging for the charge cable right this minute. More coming soon.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaugh.
Just spent an hour formatting/typing up more of the design for you guys only to promptly lose it all because if these stupid boards.
Pissed off now. Gonna go nap. Will be back later. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message So after seeing carnage's lynch threshold, I'm going to say told you so!
I reported that if everyone voted him he'd be lynched. But with too many inactives, we never reached that. We were soooo close that one day too. Also, Carnage must have a secret that weakens him to LM's impact webbing when his "family" is dead, since that's the only way we would have won. Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #2472 Mar 30, 2014 10:14:21
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Alright, gunna try this again. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Arioch was "culted" by Ahlyis Night 1, and then Clinic (who was Demogoblin) was culted later on. I think it is supremely hilarious that Arioch ended up on the team of both characters that were inately able to "Blow him to bits" and ruin his personal motivation. Also, supremely hilarious that Demogoblin ended the game as a Goblin-Aligned player. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User **** these ****ing forums.
Four times now it ate my very big, very time consuming design file posts.
That's it, I'm going to make up the design file somewhere else and just give you guys a link to it. I don't have the patience to deal with this ****. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message What's left? Carnage's secrets? Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #2478 Apr 01, 2014 5:48:32
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Block User Direct Message There's also the lesser roles, like my Robbie Town News Editor Report Comment I am Blue/Black Febstalicious42 wrote: But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake." I like being bad... it makes me happy... TOP REPLY QUOTE #2479 Apr 01, 2014 12:38:40
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I would think, at least after the second time, if not the first, that you would copy everything into word or notepad before gambling with trying to submit it. FOUR times?
Meh, whatever. I guess it's true. Can't teach an old dog new tricks. Or something like that. Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #2480 Apr 01, 2014 15:56:31
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Block User Direct Message Resyx wrote: There's also the lesser roles, like my Robbie Town News Editor
who are you Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #2481 Apr 01, 2014 22:39:49 (Edited)
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Ahlyis wrote: I would think, at least after the second time, if not the first, that you would copy everything into word or notepad before gambling with trying to submit it. FOUR times?
Meh, whatever. I guess it's true. Can't teach an old dog new tricks. Or something like that. Yeah yeah, laugh it up fuzzball.
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Interesting note on these two: though they are labeled as Lovers, they only actually function as Lovers if Dagger dies, not if Cloak dies. If Cloak dies, Dagger can stick around, but if Dagger dies Cloak leaves (though, they can maybe both return later, depending on how it goes). Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User There, that's all the roles. Took me forever and a half.
Still have to put up Carnage's secrets, as well as list of night actions if you guys care about that, and some other notes on a couple things. You'll get the rest soon. I gots to get some sleep. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message See freddeh ,this would probably have been a lot easier if you claimed when I asked you to do so,I just wanted to know if you were still able to roleblock carnage. Report Comment TOP REPLY QUOTE #2495 Apr 02, 2014 6:03:17 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message Man, I was cruel to that little girl. But yes, I'd like to see Night actions in addition to my role's secrets. Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #2496 Apr 02, 2014 15:10:56
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Block User Direct Message I'd also like to see Night Actions/Carnage Secrets. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #2497 Apr 02, 2014 16:31:54 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message It was never explained why my Light Dagger on Ahlyis failed. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #2498 Apr 02, 2014 16:45:01 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message tmich wrote: See freddeh ,this would probably have been a lot easier if you claimed when I asked you to do so,I just wanted to know if you were still able to roleblock carnage.
Its not my fault Iso has better reading comprehension than you >_>. I was hoping he'd leave me alone if he thought I couldn't doa nything anymore, which is why I avoided confirming if I had stuff left. Report Comment Mafia History (Most Fun and/or Favorites listed) TOP REPLY QUOTE #2499 Apr 02, 2014 17:44:46 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message We were 1 vote away from Lynching Ahlyis in Day 1. We were 1 vote away from Lynching Carnage in Day 3. 1 vote away both times from averting catastrophe. Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #2500 Apr 02, 2014 18:00:58 (Edited)
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Block User Direct Message This game was so stacked against Town!
Dead Players: The_Unwritten, who was Little Girl, Self-Aligned Missing Girl, killed with fire by CARNAGE Day 1, not town, killed by scum Johnny_Combo_Player, who was MAXIMUM CARNAGE, Self-Aligned Video Game, saw his last GAME OVER screen Day 1 [Lynch], not town Pdr_Br, who was J. Jonah Jameson, Town-Aligned Blowhard, gunned down in the middle of a tirade Night 1, killed by scum Jedcaj, who was Cletus Kasady, Self-Aligned Psychopath, met his end at the behest of a pumpkin bomb Night 1, killed by scum, not town Seppel_, who was Magical Trevor, Troll-Aligned Crazy Wizard, brutally murdered by Venom Night 1, killed by scum, not town Murica, who was the Mafia-Aligned Spider-Dopplegagner, was Modkilled Day 2, not town EtR, who was Shriek, Mafia-Aligned Psychopath, was Modkilled Day 2, not town edeon, who was Venom, Self-Aligned Vigilante, was Modkilled Day 2, not town Shockwave07, who was the Mafia-Aligned Carrion, was reduced to dust Day 3 [Lynch], not town Freddeh-scum, who was Angelica "Angel" Jones (Firestar), Town-Aligned Hotshot, had her head bitten off by CARNAGE Night 3, killed by scum Clinic was beaten to death by Burning_Earth on Day 4, his identity and allegiance remains unknown, not town Tevish_Szat, who was Mary Jane Watson-Parker, Town-Aligned Supermodel, was gunned down in the street on Day 4, killed by scum PeregrineV, who was Michael Morbius the Living Vampire, Town-Aligned Vigilante, was killed by CARNAGE Day 4, killed by scum Zokorad, who was Dagger, Town-Aligned Lover, was killed by CARNAGE Day 4, killed by scum Prophylaxis, who was The Amazing Spider-Man, Town-Aligned Superhero (swapped roles with JayDreven), spun his last web Day 4 [Lynch], only option JayDreven, who was Iron Fist, Town-Aligned Monk (swapped roles with Prophylaxis), was killed by CARNAGE Night 4, killed by scum tmich, who was Stan Lee, Town-Aligned Editor-in-Chief of Marvel Comics, was hung for being an old senile pervert Day 5 [Lynch], killed by scum Resyx, who was Joseph "Robbie" Robertson, Town-Aligned Newsman, was killed by CARNAGE Night 5, killed by scum Seriously, Town as a whole made 0 obvious mistakes in who to kill and 2 debateable mistakes and still cut it close even with 3 scum modkilled Report Comment Mafia Game Slots: 1. Open 2. Hundred Acres (Dead Town) 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open TOP REPLY QUOTE #2501 Apr 02, 2014 19:31:43 (Edited)
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Zokorad wrote: We were 1 vote away from Lynching Ahlyis in Day 1. We were 1 vote away from Lynching Carnage in Day 3. 1 vote away both times from averting catastrophe. Buh?
Please explain what catastrophe came about because I lived! Report Comment I'm just a Pigment of your imagination. TOP REPLY QUOTE #2502 Apr 03, 2014 4:21:40 (Edited)
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In fairness, I basically had a flashing neon sign above me, pointing down, saying, "This guy is scum! Lynch him!" because of the public nature of my role. I just made it really hard to lynch me and pretended to be a Neutral for a long time. :3 Report Comment Мы, темноте TOP REPLY QUOTE #2504 Apr 04, 2014 19:46:44
Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User I BELIEVE this was all the actions. If I missed something, please let me know.
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Also, REALLY? If I had killed Arioch instead of Resyx on the last Night I would've WON?!?
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Zokorad wrote: You forgot that I used a Light Dagger on Ahlyis in Day 4 and it didn't work for reasons that haven't been explained. The answer you're looking for is in Ahlyis' role PM under secrets regarding his win condition. I've quoted the relevant section for you here: Zinger2099 wrote: When the two characters enter their final showdown everyone who doesn't have a voting ability is given a temporary voting ability that will last the remainder of the Day and any ability that would reduce or block someone's ability to vote on this Day fails; all living players may participate in this vote. Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Zokorad wrote: Seriously, Town as a whole made 0 obvious mistakes in who to kill and 2 debateable mistakes and still cut it close even with 3 scum modkilled 2 scum modkills. I wouldn't really call Venom scum, since he wasn't considered a threat to the town and could even win with the town, if he was allowed to kill Carnage (that was his wincon). Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Zinger2099 Joined Jun 2007 3644 Posts View All Posts View Profile Block User Carnage Secrets: Carnage's [Self] abilities always function, whereas his [Mafia] abilities only function while other Mafia members still live. "Carnage Never Dies" first targets Cletus Kasady, if he lives. Following that it goes after anyone with the personal motivation of "must become host for Carnage." Following that it will go after anyone who is Mafia-Aligned. If none of the above are left, Carnage dies. If one of the two Spider-Man characters somehow becomes host for Carnage, he instead becomes the supremely powerful Spider-Carnage, keeping all of Carnage's abilities AS WELL AS all of Spider-Man's abilities, AND his identity is no longer public knowledge, AND he still shows up as Spider-Man in investigations. Spider-Carnage is nearly unbeatable. "Paint the Town Red!" every 50 kills gains Carnage a new ability or upgrade until 1000. After that it is every 500 kills that nets him an ability or upgrade until 10,000. At 10,000, Carnage auto-wins and everyone else loses (even players who otherwise would have won). See list below for abilities and upgrades. "Shut up, Gramps" Neither Carnage or the Mafia could kill Venom. Anything they could have done that would have resulted in his death would instead place him in the Missing pile. While in the Missing pile, Venom could do nothing, but occasionally would get random quoted messages of things the Mafia was saying in their quicktopic. If a Mafia-aligned player died while Venom was Missing in this way, he returns to the Living pile. "Adrenaline Junky" Some leeway might be allowed in extinuating circumstances, but for the most part Carnage must keep his post count high or die. Paint the Town Red! Upgrades: 50 kills: Angry Mob Starts 100: Town Lynch Thresholds down by 2 (minimum 1) 150: Double the number of NPC kills per post 200: Learn alignments of three target players 250: Change target player's personal motivation to "must become host for Carnage" 300: Bonus Kill 350: Angry Mob votes double in strength 400: Players get -1 to their LT's while voting Carnage 450: +1 bonus NPC kill to the bodycount 500: Voting ability, votes bring players exactly to L-1. 550: Baby symbiote kills 10 NPCs every real life day (except sunday) 600: Carnage sense - know the lynch thresholds of all living players 650: Angry Mob votes now worth x3 votes apiece 700: Carnage's votes now have a minimum value of 1 (meaning, he can hammer peeps if he wants to!) 750: one time use ability to permanently disable all active abilities of target player 800: pick a player, view his entire role pm plus secrets 850: gain the ability to rack up your body count at any time, Day/Night/Twilight/Dawn (Baby symbiote too) 900: Bonus Kill 950: Change target player's personal motivation to "must become host for Carnage" 1000: Can now kill up to 50 NPCs per post! 1500: All Lynch Thresholds other than Carnage's have a maximum potential value of 10, and can never be higher 2000: Angry Mob votes now worth x4 votes apiece 2500: Learn the alignments of all living players 3000: Change target player's personal motivation to "must become host for Carnage" 3500: Baby symbiote now kills 25 NPCs every real life day, EVEN ON SUNDAYS 4000: +100 bonus NPC kills to the bodycount 4500: Bonus Kill 5000: Carnage becomes immune to ALL active abilities of other players, PERMANENTLY, even kill abilities 5500: Angry Mob votes now worth x5 votes apiece 6000: gain one time use ability to immediately end a phase prematurely (if used during the Day, the Day ends in No Lynch) 6500: Revive target dead player, that player's win condition becomes "survive to the end of the game" and his personal motivation becomes "must become host for Carnage" 7000: Can now kill up to 100 NPCs per post! 7500: Carnage gains a one shot lynchproof ability (the first time after gaining this ability where he would be lynched, the Day instead ends in a No Lynch) 8500: Get to look at the role pms + secrets of all living players 9000: All living players gain the personal motivation of "must become host for Carnage" (at this point, it's not a matter of whether or not Carnage will win, it's a matter of WHICH Carnage will win) 9500: The remaining living players are told that Carnage will win if he gets to 10,000 bodycount kills 10,000: Carnage wins, EVERYONE ELSE LOSES (even players who have already been told they've otherwise won, and even players on Carnage's team) Report Comment MAXIMUM CARNAGE: A Spider-Man Mafia - Game on now! Come Spectate.
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Block User Direct Message 9000 kills would've been hilarious to achieve. Suddenly, everyone that was trying to kill me NEEDS TO KILL ME EVEN MORE THAN BEFORE
Anyway, while a few things in the game were a bit broken, I had fun overall. Thanks for letting me be Carnage, Zinger.
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Obviously a LOT of work went into the design. Impressive. While there are certainly some debatable choices in there, I really think the single biggest problem for the game was the lack of deadlines.
That said, I'm happy not only that I managed to win, but that I helped Clinic and Arioch to wins as well.
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#1122Nov 06, 2013 3:53:58 (Edited)
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I'm town aligned and not a loyal citizen of this city.
I'm surprised you guys don't know who I am, I think I(or a character based on me, I can't remember if they said my name) even was in a tv series.
I was waiting for zinger to post, since my role forces me to be careful with the number of posts I make, but I guess at this point I should just post.
If we assume that zoko's ability was true, the only character in carnage's group that makes sense is demogoblin, and there is a really good option for a good character with that ability, I don't think that his lynch is a good idea, with JJJ dead what would mafia gain from telling to town who's spiderman? That's probably null, probably also a bad play, but null noneless, if you want to lynch someone for a bad play murica has voted lgr yesterday and phurporos seems interested in him so he's a better lynch than zoko.
That said, I'm sad that the wagons on clinic and B_E still haven't started and I will probably explain why I think they are a good lynch in my new post, stay tuned(assuming I still think this after I read the thread again).
I used one of my abilities in a unusual way during D1-N1, just telling you this in case I need to claim later in the game and people show concern for my action in that day.
I have started a mafia game in this forum, if one of the players that zinger invited from salvation could help me polishing it II would be glad.
@iso: Do you know anything about jedkay role?
There is probably another troll in the set-up since seppel didn't flip self aligned, *looks at ahlyis*, they may be some kind of modified jester seeing seppel play.
Not a fan of shock posts, actually not a fan of anyone post(except maybe lordmark) but shock posts are a bit more worrying, not clinic-B_E level, still, I would probably still prefer freddeh hanging than him, I need to think about this( and check edeon's activity level, why did I forget about him?)
Fake edit:nah, the posts from D1 that I did read were decent, false alarm.
Next linch should be in the part of the week comprised between sunday and wednesday to maximixe the chances that PV will post(he's usually absent during weekends).
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Yeah it was pretty obvious Mark was Spiderman from Day 1 but I wasn't gonna be the guy to say it.
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@Purph - Town, higher than the majority threshold, but that can change depending on the use of my abilities.
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Buttered? With cinnamon and sugar? Or jam/jelly?
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The Day starts and CARNAGE doesn't waste any time. Time for breakfast, and JayDreven's on the menu! Thirsty for blood he attacks without remorse, but soon finds he's bit off more than he can chew. Whoever this JayDreven is, he sure knows how to fight. The battle ends in a stalemate, and CARNAGE goes home empty handed...this time.
Jeez, two days in a row CARNAGE? You sure know how to pick em.
IsoSTARDUST TRIED TO KILL JayDreven, BUT NOTHING HAPPENS.
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So you're perfectly fine outing other people to the mafia, but you feel you can refrain from answering questions because you don't want them to know about you. Yeah.
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Holy **** you guys managed to only make posts without useful content for days.
reading edeon:
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So, in the first pages he rolefish a lot/tries to get the vig to shoot ahl, on page five he says that he will be a lot less active for a while, but has enough time to continue the discussion with me about vigging ahl, for 3 more posts .
Looks at neutrals more than at players that could be scum, ask if we can lynch a lurker, backtracks once we saw zinger voting them(this is coerent).
The vote on seppel has bad reasons(did he read his post wrongly?)(looks like parking a vote on a non-mafia player)
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Disappearin' the Cow: Johnny_Combo_Player
Like seriously how is this game balanced at all?
You didn't see his post? even if it was a will post later post, it was better than FFP's one or the other lurkers I'm almost sure haven't posted either
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Someone tried to kill me.
Little did they know that I'm an unkillable unlynchable miller vig (for real).
So 3 unlynchables and this one says he'll appear scum in investigations, this claim reeks of scum, any proof of the alleged kill?
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@Ragnarokio: So if I have a cop dayshot, that's usable once per day, you can make it so I can cop the entire game on D1?
Sign me up.
If this post is true then you wasted your only hit on a player that wants to contribute, great job.
Unvote, Vote: Seppel
Page 10, still nothing indicating a town aligned mindset.
Talks to purphoros as if he was seppel?!?
Why is he assuming seppel is a really hard to lynch mafia aligned player(that is not really that balanced)?
Discussing with purphoros the mindset behind the nightkill(well,hindsight and all, but he basically said in two posts that mafia reason to shoot lurkers was to look townie and the way that shot looked really scummy,Uh?)
Finally disappears in page 15 until page 19,at least 5 pages after announcing it.
This actually looks kind of good,kinda, but still no scumhunting.
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Murica wrote:
Regarding Jay's idea I find it very useful but I doubt we can put it into action. People are usually stoubborn and I doubt you can convince them to change their votes on someone they don't believe is scum. That is why even in games which had enforced deadlines, there were people that argued until the last second. Don't get me wrong, I am all for it but I don't think it is going to work.
I think that people don't change their votes on a normal deadline game cause well they don't need to, doing so will only make them look flipfloppy and/or bandwaggony, if we all (or most) compromise to do this there would be a reason to change votes and no backlash on doing so.
As for my top 3, that I'll have to wait a bit since they are basically the claimed unlynchables, other than that I haven't really weighted the cases on Pdr or Clinic (for example) and their attackers. Just give me a few hours to review the thread, see if I can do this after all this time not playing and not being good at reviewing prior to that (this is me putting myself in a tight spot for self motivation)
Then disappears until page 29.
He posted again after I posted his name, but I haven't read other posts to check if he missed other players posting it, he did really little when not motivated, towny posts were really scarce and he stopped rolefishing(was he called out for it?).
Well,I'm waiting for him to tell us if he is town aligned or neutral.
@edeon:I think you should read the thread and propose us a good lynch candidate with a case and all the things needed, I want to see you do towny things since you haven't until now.
You haven't done anything too townish, so I'm wary of you, can you make that post this week? Can you provide a link to a game you played some years ago? Can you tell me when you will make a post that actually holds some content? Fail to do the above and you will most likely be tomorrow lynch, if I'm still alive.
and now I'm too bored to continue,
I should be able to do it later during the next week, unfortunately I recently discovered that have an exam this week.
I guess I could try to read the posts again just before going to sleep and write some quick bulletins on who's scum, frankly I'm only making those long posts to avoid my post restriction,I feel kind of uneasy writing things longer than a phrase or a quick explanation unless I'm personally responding to someone's questions or introducing a new argument or issue.
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Its a very complicated scenario.
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No it's not.
Do you think is Spidey based on a result: Yes or No.
If yes were you told specificially Mark was Spidey: Yes or No.
If no is it just your read on him: Yes or No.
Not that complicated. Three words and you're done. Anything else is just excuses to avoid the matter.
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This is an update on how people have responded to the purph-claim:
Ahlyis - no alignment/lynch threshold Iso - neutral/unlynchable Zokorad - didn't answer Arioch - didn't answer Clinic - town/unchanged Lord Mark - town/unchanged Shockwave - town/unchanged Tevish Szat - town/unchanged Freddeh - town/unchanged Jay - refused Resyx - town/unchanged Burning Earth - town/unchanged Tmich - town/unchanged Arioch - town/higher than majority (subject to change) EtR - unclaimed/unchanged Edeon - didn't answer PeregrineV - hasn't posted since Murica - hasn't posted since
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I am Town and have a lowered lynch threshold for the rest of the game.
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#1202Nov 13, 2013 2:08:48
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Don't lynch Zokorad. D1 pretty much proved his innocence.
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LordMark wrote:
@Clinic: Hey, don't point your finger at me, I claimed my alignment and my threshold as soon as I could. Not that it matters, nobody can prove that we're telling the truth. I'm convinced that the entire mafia team has claimed town(aside from Carnage, who is most obviously the ringleader).
Do you have anything to back that up, aside from baseless speculation?
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Also, for as much as you keep saying you don't care who wins, you sure do seem to continue to act like you care.
You mistake my intentions good sir. I don't care "who" wins, only that the game continues to advance.
If you were to be lynched, I wouldn't care whether you flipped Town or Mafia or even pink elephant aligned, only that your death means the game is advancing. I hate stagnating games.
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@Ahl, If that's what you took away from yesterday's lynch, then I (normally) would suggest a re-read (although I won't in this instance given your situation). What actually transpired yesterday was the elimination of a self that had nothing but potential harm for the town. But wait! They are screaming about the benefits! Let's look at those. He told everybody that if they delt with him, their lynch threshold would increase. Looking over his role PM after death, this was a half truth. Their threshold only increases during the day they're dealing with him, and does not stack. So right off the bat you already have a self who is misleading the town for his own benefit. Yeah, that's totally the harmless guy everybody was making him out to be.
Nice try, but no. You cannot use his half truth as a justification for lynching him since you only learned it was a half truth AFTER you lynched him!
So, given what you KNEW yesterday before the lynch happened, how is Arioch significantly different?
Don't get me wrong. I'm not actually saying I think Arioch is a good lynch candidate. I'm trying to understand why a double standard is being applied for him vs. yesterday's lynchee.
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I didn't say it was justification for the lynch. I said it was proof of the accusations we made that he would do the town harm. It being after his death does not make it less proof that he wasn't the harmless survivor type you lot made him out to be. Ari, on the other hand, is not putting the town at a deficit in order to gain something. He is simply not detracting his role needlessly. There is no double standard present, they are completely different situations.
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Mod, I don't care if I'm violating the rules and this is supposed to be sent via PM. Tough! It has relevance to this post and belongs here, not in some hidden PM... Can we please get Post #3 updated? I don't remember who had the low lynch threshold and was lynched yesterday... and the current gamestate according to post #3 is of no help!
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I didn't say it was justification for the lynch. I said it was proof of the accusations we made that he would do the town harm. It being after his death does not make it less proof that he wasn't the harmless survivor type you lot made him out to be. Ari, on the other hand, is not putting the town at a deficit in order to gain something. He is simply not detracting his role needlessly. There is no double standard present, they are completely different situations.
They aren't "completely different situations", though I will grant you that they are "partially" different.
There was more than "just" his potentially becoming lynch proof that was used as justification for yesterday's lynch. But his becoming lynchproof WAS used as one of the arguments for lynching him.
Is the same not being said of Arioch simply because there's nothing else against him right now? I suppose that might make some sense, but it doesn't really seem to be the truth of the situation.
The way it looks to me, and I freely admit this is just my interpretation, is that Bob... (because I don't remember who was lynched)... Bob got run up because he was an easy target. Specious arguments against him were presented as justifiation for making bad votes and getting a speed lynch done to end the day. Many of those same arguments could be used against Arioch today, but Arioch won't die with 3 simple votes and if the same thing was tried today, more people would have a chance to really examine the garbage being used to justify certain votes and call the voters to account.
Personally, I still think those that speed lynched Bob yesterday deserve to have some heat applied to them.
But whatever. *shrugs*
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Mod, I don't care if I'm violating the rules and this is supposed to be sent via PM. Tough! It has relevance to this post and belongs here, not in some hidden PM... Can we please get Post #3 updated? I don't remember who had the low lynch threshold and was lynched yesterday... and the current gamestate according to post #3 is of no help!
Post #3 is current and does not require any updating. If you can't figure out what happened, TOUGH!
There are thread links in Post#3. Learn how to use them.
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Let's just lynch him and find out! :armscross: I trust him less than I trust Iso. At least with Iso, I know he's going to try to kill a certain person.
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Let's just lynch him and find out! :armscross: I trust him less than I trust Iso. At least with Iso, I know he's going to try to kill a certain person.
Are you my mummy?
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Don't lynch Zokorad. D1 pretty much proved his innocence.
Remind me what he did day 1 again?
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I summon Zokorad into a court for a trial.
This should be interesting.
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Let's just lynch him and find out! :armscross: I trust him less than I trust Iso. At least with Iso, I know he's going to try to kill a certain person.
Are you my mummy?
British or Egyptian?
If you are refering to Venom, no. However, I do have quite the curiosity to just see Venom's role. In just the Max Carnage storyline, he's portrayed as an anti-hero, and he later on joins S.H.I.E.L.D. as an Agent. But we all (or should) know that the only reason Carnage exists is because Venom was in jail for being bad. I could see self-aligned, town and mafia all as possible roles that make sense flavor-wise. It'd be hilarious if Ahl was actually Venom, and you two self-aligned unlynchables were ships in the night! Every nerd bone in my body begs for this to be true.
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But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake."
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Also, by the way, my "personal motivaion" that I got in my role pm contains a direct lie in it.
You guys should be cautios for the same possibility.
I was told about the direct lie at the start of this game day.
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@ jay: got it. But the truth is I'm not sure enough to make definitive statements.
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Boooooooring.
I should go look through my abilities and see what I can do during the day. There's got to be something interesting/useful in there. Because there sure doesn't seem to be anything interesting or useful going on here.
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^agreed. I'm tempted to start a mass fake claim, just for the lols.
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^agreed. I'm tempted to start a mass fake claim, just for the lols.
I am Carnage.
I am the local bully. And like most bullies, I have the intellectual capacity of a 3 year old. I will run around causing havoc and throwing tantrums. And if I don't like you, I will try to kill you. If you present me with well formed arguments, I will call u dum, because that's best formed response my intellect is capable of.
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Ahlyis wrote:
JayDreven wrote:
^agreed. I'm tempted to start a mass fake claim, just for the lols.
I am Carnage.
I am the local bully. And like most bullies, I have the intellectual capacity of a 3 year old. I will run around causing havoc and throwing tantrums. And if I don't like you, I will try to kill you. If you present me with well formed arguments, I will call u dum, because that's best formed response my intellect is capable of.
Go **** yourself
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Ahl getting into a fight with another mafia poster? Inconceivable.
... yeah, that was low. Sorry. The bit that's worth noting is that this has seldom, if ever, ended well.
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I don't know why everybody (Zoko inlcuded) is just assuming his role works on mafia. Seems more like a role designed to interact with a specific self aligned to me.
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@Murica: So, what you're saying is that when someone agrees with another person there is no reason to go along with that person? Haven't you ever heard of someone saying "you took the words right out of my mouth" or "couldn't have said it better myself"?
@B_E: Am I supposed to understand what you meant by that?
Barn stands for barnacle. It just means that you agree.
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@Resyx: I don't think Zokorad would risk the consequences of his actions if he were mafia.
As a lover of gambits, it's fairly safe. He makes the claim of having his ability. He pretends to use it, and it fails. It's easy enough to come up with a lie about why it didn't work like "It must work on certain evil" (which is what happened according to flavor scene) or something.
That is about as ridiculous of a mudsling as I think I've ever seen!
Why would he EVER have to "come up with a lie"? Whether he was Mafia or not, what situation would EVER require him to come up with a lie about why it didn't work??? Seriously. I'd love to hear your answer. Keep in mind, the MOD confirmed that his ability IS searching for some kind of evil.
Mudsling? I thought the context of the scenario being hypothetical was pretty clear. I don't actually believe he's lying, because as you and I pointed out, the mod confirmed it working. I don't have a situation in mind. I just assume people would question why it would fail. :shrug:
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Here's some food for thought, and if anyone wants to answer, they should feel free to: That ability is BETTER than a vig ability, to the point where it's near broken. Why give it to town without some kind of downside? Assuming someone doesn't screw us over (*cough*Ahlyis*cough*), it would have taken the mafia down a member and put the town up a member.
I'm sure it doesn't do exactly what he claimed. You're right in that it would break the game if it actually converted a Mafiate into a Townie.
My assumption is that it IS a Vig shot, but one with protections built in. A normal Vig shot will kill anyone that isn't bulletproof. His Vig shot would only kill a Mafiate. Which also explains why it was one shot. He gets one shot at a cop result with a Vig kill tacked on if the Cop result turns up Mafia.
That seems the most likely scenario to me, though I don't have the mod notes or even his role PM. So I don't "know" that to be the case. But I do see it as a very likely scenario given the info we have.
Actually a vig shot. Interesting idea.
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Ok, so how does the mafia benefit from such an ability? Well, it lets you draw out those non-mafia, non-town members while appearing town.
That's just ridiculous. How does it let you draw anyone out? It only drew me out because I'm unkillable. If I weren't, there's no way in hell I would have said anything or invited him to use that ability on me! Okay, I'll grant that the fact I'm neither Mafia nor Town is also a factor. But that alone isn't even close to enough to get me to volunteer. Being unkillable was the dominant factor.
I was working off the assumption it functioned as Zoko explained it. The ability to convert neutrals to mafias (remember I'm working on the idea that this was for mafia benefit) both benefits town and neutrals as the mafia gets another member, and neutrals get an easier win condition to achieve. That was my best guess.
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The ability in itself is suspicious. That's how I see it.
I agree that what he CLAIMED the ability does is suspicious. I disagree about your assessment that the ability has a good likelihood of being on a Mafiate.
The MOD confirmed that it was looking for evil. The ONLY way that your scenario makes any sense is if I am also Mafia. And if you believe in an unkillable Mafia, well, I've still got that nice bridge for sale!
I don't know why you're so determined to push ridiculous theories. I do know that the most common reason for doing so is an anti-town agenda. If I had a vote, you would have it right now.
Looking for evil =/= looking for mafia, as you so readily proved. In fact, remember the title: Maximum Carnage. Just for flavor-gaming's sake, Venom, who is evil, is still a "hero". So, you don't even need to be mafia or even neutral for me to believe you're not the evil he was searching for, because in theory, you can find evil in town. And I could go into semantics about how Jameson is evil for slandering Spidey, but that's just silly and probably pointless!
Anyway, none of this is pushing ridiculous theories. This is me trying to reconcile what I see as a conflict between anti-town actions and pro-town ability. Coming to the conclusion he's town (if he is town) is just as useful as discovering he's mafia (if he is mafia). It's one less possible mislynch. Your mention of a varietation of vig does help explain the ability somewhat, though as you noted, you don't know it's precise function. Which leads us to the next question.
@Zoko, since you've used your ability up, is there anything you're leaving out about its functioning?
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The ability to convert neutrals to mafias (remember I'm working on the idea that this was for mafia benefit) both benefits town and neutrals as the mafia gets another member, and neutrals get an easier win condition to achieve.
That should obviously be mafia. It benefits mafia and neutrals.
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But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake."
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I'm back from v/la.
Only 1 page of posts in 4 days? Yikes.
I'm still on board for a Zoko lynch, but that seems to have died down. I just really don't like the way he approached the LordMark situation. Though Ahl's speculation on the cop+vig of his purge evil ability is interesting and it probably lends towards him being town.
I am also finding myself agreeing with JD about Clinic and would be willing to put my vote there.
Not sure about Murica right now, but he has some actual content to go over. Probably going to reread his stuff and see if anything jumps out at me.
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@Murica: I'd rather Freddeh be more active. Tell us what you want him dead for.
I would too, unfortunately I just can't find myself that interested in this game right now >_>.
@Murica: My personal input is 'lets lynch someone idgaf who'. Heck, I don't care if I get lynched right now. My ability is completely counterproductive to anything we're doing as a town as a whole right now.
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Purph, I wanted to cut your post down to these three, because they show a dishonest mindset better when you can compare. I do have a question of you though, did you check to see if Murica had any votes out while he was FOSsing?
A break from the stuffing to answer some questions/hound people.
He did not. He FoS'ed Ahylis then he upgraded it to a full vote. Right now on Day 2 he says he wants Freddeh to hang but hasn't voted him.
Why did you ask your question?
I wanted to make sure you had actually done research and were not cherry picking. It would be very bad if you were only picking out the posts where he had FOS'ed but had a vote out at the same time. That's why I asked.
Did you actually read my analysis? What gave you the impression that I was cherry-picking?
Who do you want to lynch today?
Clinic wrote:
vote: freddeh
Willing to lynch freddeh, edeon, burning earth, peregrine.
In the next tier are other people I am suspicious of but not to the same degree: tmich, shockwave, arioch.
What did you think about my Murica case? There is no way Murica should be in your town pile.
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I summon a Goblin to harass IsoSTARDUST.
I summon an Elf to harass IsoSTARDUST.
Minion Count: 2
If you're town, then you should be scumhunting and generating content. Not put out useless stuff like this.
If you're town, you have a responsibility to further the town's win con, and actually play the ******* game. Why are you just durdling and being there?
And I was just about ready to vote Murica based on your case Purphoros.
Stop acting like Resyx put you on trial for questioning a small piece of your reasoning on Murica's case and answer the question. You know the rest of the case is solid.
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And I was just about ready to vote Murica based on your case Purphoros.
Stop acting like Resyx put you on trial for questioning a small piece of your reasoning on Murica's case and answer the question. You know the rest of the case is solid.
I answered the question.
It feels like you're reading a different game than me.
Purph, I wanted to cut your post down to these three, because they show a dishonest mindset better when you can compare. I do have a question of you though, did you check to see if Murica had any votes out while he was FOSsing?
A break from the stuffing to answer some questions/hound people.
He did not. He FoS'ed Ahylis then he upgraded it to a full vote. Right now on Day 2 he says he wants Freddeh to hang but hasn't voted him.
Why did you ask your question?
I wanted to make sure you had actually done research and were not cherry picking. It would be very bad if you were only picking out the posts where he had FOS'ed but had a vote out at the same time. That's why I asked.
Did you actually read my analysis? What gave you the impression that I was cherry-picking?
Who do you want to lynch today?
I did. Nothing gave me that impression. It was just me doing due diligence and making sure you did as well.
Before I voted, I wanted to get your answer, but I'm on board with a Murica lynch.
Vote Murica
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I'm so bored; I'm doing a little minigame that is not part of my role.
I summon a Goblin to harass IsoSTARDUST.
I summon an Elf to harass IsoSTARDUST.
Minion Count: 2
If you're town, then you should be scumhunting and generating content. Not put out useless stuff like this.
If you're town, you have a responsibility to further the town's win con, and actually play the ******* game. Why are you just durdling and being there?
Yeah, I'm getting a little fed up with the bull****. It's like you, Zokorad, are coasting on the one time you did something probably pro-town. Problem is, while the ability is probably pro-town and it was confirmed that you actually had it, there's a sliver of a chance it's a twist and the ability is actually on a mafiate.
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I did. Nothing gave me that impression. It was just me doing due diligence and making sure you did as well.
Before I voted, I wanted to get your answer, but I'm on board with a Murica lynch.
Vote Murica
Yeah, I'm getting a little fed up with the bull****. It's like you, Zokorad, are coasting on the one time you did something probably pro-town. Problem is, while the ability is probably pro-town and it was confirmed that you actually had it, there's a sliver of a chance it's a twist and the ability is actually on a mafiate.
OK. Sorry for the hostile attitude.
Occam's states that Zokorad is just a dumb townie.
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I have real issues about how Zinger2099 designed your role but I'll address it postgame (if this game doesn't end up abandoned along the way )
Basically I dislike how you can active lurk the entire game if neccessary and just add bulk to the thread. You're like Ahylis but Ahylis actually has to fulfill his win con, while I don't think you can "Venom-Hunt".
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Sorry, with my vacation, the holiday, and this site not sending email notifications of new posts I kinda forgot about this game. I have read all the posts up until now, but haven't done much in the way of rereading/analyzing yet. Here are my gut reactions:
@Purph, I like your case on Murica. You make some solid points. I was planning on looking into him anyway and this encourages me to do so even more. This is probably where my vote would go currently.
Clinic has also rubbed me the wrong way this game, not for anything that I recall as being blatantly scummy, but the fact that he seems to be sort of just prod-dodging with fluffy posts that don't really have much meat to them (I am aware that the same could probably be said about myself and probably why I look scummy to him). Another person I want to reread.
Jay is making an idiotic argument on semantics as he always does and he knows it. He will argue it to death and just dropping it is a good choice. I think he has made some good points as well, but he detracts from those by getting into a semantics debate on something, that in the end, he probably agrees with you on.
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The fact that you have to say this line right here proves that what I'm saying is right. It's not confirmed, but it is likely, so we will proceed under the speculation that it is what happened. Again, this does not negate that it is speculation.
According to your use of speculation, it is only speculation that we are even playing a game of Mafia on the web. It is possible that we're nothing but brain stems hooked up to highly advanced computers which are feeding us stimuli and telling us what we see, when actually nothing of the sort is really happening. Therefore it is only speculation that you are even reading this post right now and not having it fed directly to your optic nerve rather than being gathered through your eyes. Everything anywhere that has ever happened to you is only speculation that those things really happened and aren't fabrications inserted into your memory centers. It's all speculation!
Your definition for what constitutes speculation goes well beyond the norm and right off into the absurd. This is not a philosophical debate! If you are going to insist on using an obscure and selective interpretation, you should at least admit to that so we can ignore you and move on!
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Fancy that.
So, how 'bout that new aloe drink craze going on? Anyone tried those?
I've had a few of them. They're okay. The Tropicana brand kinda sucks, though.
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I tried the new Monster Zero Ultra Red the other day. Does that count?
BTW, it was okay, but not great. Better than the Zero Ultra Blue, but I think I'll stick with the original White Zer Ultra.
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Jay is making an idiotic argument on semantics as he always does and he knows it.
On the contrary, my argument is neither idiotic nor semantic. I have not argued what it means to speculate, I have merely shown multiple examples of how this game is riddled with speculation, thus trying to use speculation as a scum tell is folly. The only counter arguments that have been brought up so far amount to "Yeah, but those other things don't count, cuz yeah." I like how you have to resort to mudslinging instead of actually forming a coherent counter argument though. Good job.
@Ahl, it is all speculation. Why do you think philosophers to this day still discuss the meaning of life, observation, and the self? But getting back to the game at hand, I used the exact same definition that Purph did. In multiple examples. The difference is, as I've already pointed out, Purph's (as well as other's) selective application to whatever is convienent for him. This is easy enough to see, as nobody has bothered to try to refute my argument on why speculating is good for the town, but rather merely attacked what I called a speculation, side stepping the issue completely.
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I'm getting tired of reading people debate with long posts that have mostly garbage and quotes, so I'm not visiting as much(that and I have other things to do).
I'm also tired of Carnage posting random crap to avoid penalties.
@Jay: your posts are too long and not very useful, I barely read any of them. By not very useful I mean they aren't helping town. Murica is clearly at the top of the list in terms of votes, do you really think it's not worth finding out if he's mafia? Instead of poking holes in other peoples cases, why not come up with legitimate reasons why we should be keeping Murica alive? I don't think it's possible but I welcome you to prove me wrong.
Either way, Murica gave the baddies a lot of information early on, I think he deserves to be put in the stockades at the very least. Oh how I wish that were a feature.
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I'm pretty much waiting until Murica does something/mod provides VC.
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Check post 22 and tell me if you still think what I said was a slip.
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Well, when I "kill" him, I "capture" him.
And then I have to survive to the end of the game to kill him, or something.
So my win cons are sort of built into each other.
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Ahlyis wrote:
Jay, "speculation" implies a level of uncertainty that I do not believe exists here.
Agreed, and that level is anything below absolute proof.
@Mark, the ends don't justify the means. I can randomly pick a player off the player list to lynch. If that player turns out to be scum, that doesn't justify randomly lynching people. As such, Murica flipping scum wouldn't make the case against him magically good, it'd just mean you got lucky.
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JayDreven wrote:
Ahlyis wrote:
Jay, "speculation" implies a level of uncertainty that I do not believe exists here.
Agreed, and that level is anything below absolute proof.
And thus we are back to the philosophy debate.
I'm sorry, but this is not a philosophy forum and that level of challenging reality is neither needed, nor warranted here.
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There's no philosophy involved. If you were stating a fact you would have proof of said fact. You do not have proof so you are not stating a fact. What you have is evidence that you are using in your inductive reasoning. Which is describing what I've been saying exactly.
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@Shockwave: Even so, I still have my eye on you.
@Jay: I know it might seem that way but if we aren't going to take chances what are we doing? Waiting until some mafia makes a slip? They're not slipping very much if at all. Clock is ticking and we almost have a lynch already. Plus, has murica posted since we started this train on him? If I'm not mistaken, he's been missing for a while.
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Time to go be a resposible adult at my job
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JayDreven wrote:
There's no philosophy involved. If you were stating a fact you would have proof of said fact. You do not have proof so you are not stating a fact. What you have is evidence that you are using in your inductive reasoning. Which is describing what I've been saying exactly.
Right,. Because MOD posts with results from an ability being used do not constitute proof of an ability being used.
I stand by my assertion that you are trying to turn this into a philosophical debate instead of accepting the presented facts.
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*Shrugs* Not my intention to do so, but I knew I had my vote on someone before the switch to Iso.
But can't help enjoy spreading the paranoia!
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Aw. I can't get my bodycount up anymore for the Day.
Firestar, you suck.
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Worth a shot
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I like that town seems to be better at organising itself these days.
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We'll be right back to your regularely scheduled Mafia game after these messages:
If you don't want to read me spamming my own game thread with off-topic chatter skip this next paragraph.
Still listening? Good, cuz this is important. A year ago today my fiance passed away while waiting for a compatible liver donation that would never come. 85% of people living in Ontario agree that organ donation is a good thing but only 25% of people living in Ontario are actually on the organ donor list. That number is only somewhere around 33% Canada-wide. I don't know the figures for organ donations in the states or worldwide but I imagine they are around the same. Most people will agree it is a good thing but many are too squeemish about the idea to sign up themselves. Did you know that one person signing off consent for organ donation can save up to eight other lives? Did you also know how easy it was to sign up? You can do it online. If you live in Ontario like I do, the website is right here: http://www.giftoflife.on.ca/en/. You don't need your organs after you're gone and it could mean everything to someone else. You could literally make the biggest wishes of up to eight families come true, and really what better thing is there to do if you have to die anyway? Give the gift of life.
That's all I want to say on the subject. Thanks for reading.
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JayDreven wrote:
Ahl is just arguing to argue and has admitted to doing so.
I did no such thing!
Admitting that I like to debate and easily get sucked in is NOT the same as saying that's the only reason I was doing it.
But whatever.
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I'm sorry for your loss Zinger.
I'm signed up to donate my organs, but I'm not going to give my body to science. I have no problem with harvesting my organs to directly save a life, but I don't really fancy the idea of my body being used as a test dummy for med students to play with.
I know it shouldn't matter to me, but it does. *shrugs*
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Sorry to hear it, Zinger.
On that subject, can you give us a votecount? These peons think they can lynch me.
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Actually, you guys should probably lynch Firestar, because they have ensured that I will be doing absolutely nothing for the rest of the Day instead of racking up my bodycount. (They also disabled my Daykill for the Day, but I already tried to use that, so meh.)
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IsoSTARDUST wrote:
Actually, you guys should probably lynch Firestar, because they have ensured that I will be doing absolutely nothing for the rest of the Day instead of racking up my bodycount. (They also disabled my Daykill for the Day, but I already tried to use that, so meh.)
Do we know who you tried to kill? Was it me? Or did it fail against someone else? If someone else, sheesh, that's turning into a lot of unkillable roles!
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Oh, or that works.
Arioch22 wrote:
More votes on Iso so I can vote him please.
Why can't you vote me until more people vote me?
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IsoSTARDUST wrote:
Oh, or that works.
Arioch22 wrote:
More votes on Iso so I can vote him please.
Why can't you vote me until more people vote me?
Technically I can I suppose, but my lynch threshold gets lowered for every vote. If on the off chance you are able to be lynched and I hit the hammer (which I know is somewhat ambiguous) and you are not town it doesn't lower my threshold, it increases it.
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@MOD Sadly, I need replacement. My mother has just died, and I wasn't having any fun anyway (through no fault og th mods I might add)
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Arioch22 wrote:
IsoSTARDUST wrote:
Oh, or that works.
Arioch22 wrote:
More votes on Iso so I can vote him please.
Why can't you vote me until more people vote me?
Technically I can I suppose, but my lynch threshold gets lowered for every vote. If on the off chance you are able to be lynched and I hit the hammer (which I know is somewhat ambiguous) and you are not town it doesn't lower my threshold, it increases it.
You'll be reducing your threshold because I won't be lynched, but suit yourself.
Sorry to hear about your mom, B_E.
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Sorry to hear about your mom B_E. Feel free to just forget about this game. Hope you can enjoy the holidays, though I know all too well that that will be hard.
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And Zinger comes in and totally trolls me with a vote count :D
Iso, how about we compromise. The next person we lynch, we'll pretend they're Venom to make you feel better?
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But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake."
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Sneaky second page...
Sorry about your mom B_E!
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But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake."
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Unvote;Vote: Iso
With this interesting new development we might as well try again.
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Oh, and giant *huggles* to both B_E and Zinger...that really sucks dudes .
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I know but maybe a margin of error by 1/6 so 1/6 to 1/2 lost activity. Trying not to sound discriminatory.
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Not that this game has had a ton of content anyway...sure would be nice if we could actually lynch half of the people in this game. Or if they could vote. Or if the day had a deadline. Really any one of these 3 would help this game not being fantastically slow and boring.
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Would also be nice if my Daykills were actually working
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HAHAHAHAHA
I forgot this game existed for a brief moment.
And yet I missed nothing.
Iso, why you so impotent?
And everyone with a vote, who are your top 3 scum reads now?
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Day will end as soon as I can get to a computer
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Also, it is now Twilight, for those of you whom that matters for.
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As I probably won't post tomorrow, I'll say it now...
Merry Christmas all. Or, for those that don't celebrate Christmas, Happy Holidays. Or, for anyone else... Bah HUMBUG!
Our first Christmas here. How nice it will be when we remember fondly how Day 2 ended as we look back on this a year from now while we try to lynch someone for Day 4 in this game.
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Funny, Ahlyis. Wrong, but funny. If it drags on too long, people get bored. When people get bored, they forget about the game and soon after get killed. Whether it is by our hands or not, people will die and night will come. It's almost sad, really.
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@TK: Because Bastard game.
Ahlyis wrote:
As I probably won't post tomorrow, I'll say it now...
Merry Christmas all. Or, for those that don't celebrate Christmas, Happy Holidays. Or, for anyone else... Bah HUMBUG!
Our first Christmas here. How nice it will be when we remember fondly how Day 2 ended as we look back on this a year from now while we try to lynch someone for Day 4 in this game.
Iso says thank you!
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Holiday celebrations are preventing me from getting to a computer. Sorry for the delay. Happy holidays all.
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With her newly created sun illuminating the city, Firestar quickly flew back into the fray to giveCarnage his due.
"I've got lots more where that came from, Carnage!"
CARNAGE has been WEAKENED!
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FoS:Freddeh. From what I remember about yesterday.
Vote:ISO. So that we can run him up quickly, and even if it falls again not have votes locked on him.
I think that with two mafiates dead I can come out in the open later in the day and my post restriction should be easier to avoid.
@proph: so you are trying to get out of this game for real?
@some combination of l,r and g: You are back now?
WTF does carnage fakeclaim mean.
Chances that one or more mafiate has a fakeclaim that is not a superhero?
I feel kinda like an outsider to this game, I trascured it too much for fear of breaking my PR.
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Well, that is... disappointing.
At least I got results for my Twilight ability. I got nothing for last night since it got cut so short.
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Vote: Iso
Works for now, i'm fine with lynching proph since he wants out anyway...heck he could just be frustrated because of his afk and now modkilled buddies .
@Tmich: you too!
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Buh.
Going to try and PoE this gamestate down, I think.
We have flips.
Neutrals are violet, as they're not connected to scum in any way.
I'm town. The crossed out violet players are town, or self-aligned, or whatever. They're not mafia.
Same with Ahlyis? Yeah, spelled that correctly - and Iso.
Iso's likely to be the mafia godfather/leader based on the White Flag rule, but whatever. Doubt he can get lynched or killed except in lategame, and the flavor suggests that we can't interact with him until his scumbuddies die, or something. Whatever, we can't interact with him, he's publicly outed - goes in violet.
Can't interact with Ahlyis either, and is extremely likely to be a neutral.
Zokorad is extremely annoying to play with in that he comes in, does nothing, and leaves, but the mafia flips + his ability make him extremely likely to be town that can Saulus a mafioso.
Not 100% sure, because bastard game - but we can clear him for now.
tmich is one of the better players in this game and has been actively scumhunting in every post he makes. Pretty surprised if he flipped scum.
Can't exactly recall my thoughts on LordMark, but I liked the confrontational stance he took against Iso, and he's scumhunted fairly well too. He also supported me in the Murica lynch.
Burning Earth was pretty townie from his Day 1 posts, IIRC, but has disappeared. Eh, oh well.
Doubt JayDreven would openly defend and buddy a scumbuddy like that - he'd probably bus and take the free town cred. I want him to stop philosophizing and start scumhunting, though.
Want LnGrrrR to return back, but he's disappeared at the moment due to some sort of ability, meh.
Actually, reading the above post, down with lynching Freddeh toDay. He's fine with lynching one of the most pro-town players in the game, just because I want out of the game. Hate how he tries to appease tmich too.
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I'm fine with trying to run up Iso, but assume that won't work and that he and Ahl are currently unlynchable. While I feel like they are both anti-town, it seems that going after them for the time being isn't really worth it.
I'm not "anti-town". I'm not pro-town either. I'm just out here doing my own thing with no real care for what the rest of you are doing as far as wincons are concerned.
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Dammit, I lost my post.
@Iso: So you're implying that there is at least A way to kill you? Of course, you wouldn't be lying as a 'white flag mafiate' either, so I find it hard to trust anything you say, no offence.
As far as gamestate, I'm not convinced proph and lng are town, but I'm fine keeping them around for a day or two before i look too closely at them, so I would rather look into that null list.
I'm fine ruling out Tevish for now due to his interactions with JD (we tested JD already right? I feel like we did), though I would like to see his role in action if possible.
So past that there are 3 or 4 people on that list that are worth reading through and looking at...i had a towny vibe from resyx if i recall correctly.
I should probably take al ook at that 'view all posts' feature as well!
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I will reveal everything before too long. I had started to write up a post last night but my computer died so I didn't bother to rewrite it. For now, you will have to take Jay at his word.
On another note, I believe Carnage when he says he is still unlynchable. Much like Spiderman, there probably is an event that needs to be completed before he is able to be killed. We've reached a majority on him before, I doubt his weakness alone will allow him to be lynched.
I never 'knew' anything, I merely speculated based on Maximum Carnage. So far, many characters in the comic and the game(itself included) have been revealed to be in the game. If we are to assume that the mafia team consists of the same baddies in the comic and game, 3 villains remain:
They are Carnage, Carrion and Demogoblin.
I will probably post more later today or tomorrow.
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Alright, here is where I am at without doing a reread.
We aren't lynching Jay, Tevish, or Fred today, if you still think we should lynch one of them I'm going to need a pretty good reason (like a counter-claim).
I'm fine with trying to run up Iso, but assume that won't work and that he and Ahl are currently unlynchable. While I feel like they are both anti-town, it seems that going after them for the time being isn't really worth it.
Lng and Proph are actually trying to scumhunt and I don't get a scummy vibe from either of them. Would not lynch.
I really think Zoko is town, but he certainly isn't contributing anything to the game. Would like to hear more reads from him and maybe a little more on why he is so convinced Jay is lying and LordMark is Spider-Man.
I want to hear more from PV. He claims to have a posting restriction and can only post once per Day? Night got cut a bit short, but it seemed like he was able to post freely at night. Anyone with more knowledge of characters know of someone that is mostly nocturnal? He wasn't mentioned by Zinger for not posting and threatened to be modkilled, so I assume he is actually staying up on the game and PMing Zinger to let him know he is at least somewhat active. I would probably prefer to not lynch him today and see if he can actually give some input toNight. If he doesn't contribute anything toNight I could get on board with his lynch tomorrow.
LordMark has been a pretty null read for me the whole game. I would like to hear him expand on how he knew there were doppleganger's and why he turned up as Spider-Man to Zoko.
I also think I am mostly null on tmich. I think he essentially claimed town and I remember feeling like he was probalby telling the truth. I think I need to reread him.
Everyone else I will need to reread.
this is good posting.
However I disagree about pv. If he has a post restricition like he says why are his only posts so useless? His first post is day 1 post 271. In it he gives reads of the player list but only has opinions on 7 people, six town (including murica and ahlyis) and one sorta-scum (the_unwritten). He gives no reasons for any of these reads.
His next post is all the way at , just a couple of pages back during night 2 which means he missed all of night 1 and all of day 2. He posts twice, both times asking vague questions that don't lead to any scumhunting. They are, in full,
"Night posting here. Thank God I can do it. Not sure how much help I can be, since my game following was only haphazardedly, but first, is there any other nightposters or insomniacs out there?"
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"How would YOU sum up the current gamestate?" (to ahlyis)
Even if he is telling the truth about his restriction he has been coasting hardcore, and needs to go.
@ lord mark: now that jay has claimed spiderman its time for you to claim as well. You can clear up all the stuff between you and zoko.
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Clinic, I have an idea of a nocturnal character, but Peregrine hasn't really been posting at night at all. Which, if he was town, he should've been at least giving his reads on people N1. Also, a post restriction like that should imply some sort of PR, but no notice yet. Willing to leave him alone toDay but I would like to see something toNight or toMorrow.
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Freddeh wrote:
Dammit, I lost my post.
Read as "lost my pants".
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@Iso: So you're implying that there is at least A way to kill you?
Yes; for me to either lose my abilities (resulting in being lynchable/killable, which would probably also kill Carnage as a result of him having no abilities) or for me to stop posting (which will result in Iso dying but not Carnage dying).
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Whether I claim my role now, later, or not at all, I don't believe it will make much of an impact on the gamestate. All you need to know is that I'm town. Any other information can have consequences that I'm not willing to risk just yet.
Focus on finding the remaining mafia members, not lynching town members who may or may not have roles related to Spiderman and such. We're just wasting time here.
If Jay says he's Spiderman, I'm inclined to think he isn't necessarily lying. That doesn't mean I don't don the red and blue tights either, but let it go already.
On another note, I can actually put in a vote today if that is what I wish. I do not think voting for Iso is worth considering, however. Not because he's not scum, mind you.
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#1682Jan 04, 2014 20:22:47
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No ****, I can barely keep up with one right now XD.
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What about it, Proph?
@Mark: Then the next Carnage is also going to have to post a bunch of spam. :shrug: Especially if Freddeh keeps targeting them.
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Hi everyone! And Vote Iso. And YAY two scum got modkilled!
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Oh yeah and DAMN NO NIGHT! Also I shouldn't have voted just then doh (role-related)
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I've been turning over Jay and Mark's claims in my head, and I've come to the conclusion that either they, along with Tevish, are mafia who created these false claims that reference one of Venom's abilities in a short night (unlikely)
OR
They're all telling the truth, and all therefore, likely town.
Prophylaxis wrote:
TOWNIES
Prophylaxis
Freddeh
Zokorad
LordMark
JayDreven
Tevish_Szat
PROBABLY TOWN ON BEHAVIOR
LnGrrrR (I really want him to be town; I hope this isn't wishful thinking)
tmich
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PoE PILE
Resyx
Arioch22
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Shockwave07
Clinic
We analyze/lynch through the PoE pile and autowin?
Proph, have you claimed? While I know it makes sense for you that you put yourself in the POE pile, but that's hardly helpful if we're going to analyze/lynch through the POE pile, since from my point of view (without looking for a claim) you and I would be switched on those lists. If you haven't, we need to put you back in the POE pile with me. Also, do we really want "a probably town" pile? Why not just throw them in the POE pile just to be safe?
As for beginning analysis, we can begin with me. I have some evidence toward my town alignment.
Finally, I want to guess at who Zoko is, because I think I've figured which character he is from the game and the name of his abilities, but it's not important right now. I desperately want to ask just to sate my curiosity.
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But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake."
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Prophylaxis wrote:
We should just work together, form a town bloc, and try to solve this game rather than fight each other. It's basically a matter of PoE at this point.
TOWNIES
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LordMark
JayDreven
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PROBABLY TOWN ON BEHAVIOR
LnGrrrR (I really want him to be town; I hope this isn't wishful thinking)
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Resyx
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We analyze/lynch through the PoE pile and autowin?
I more or less agree with this (putting you in to the poe pile however). I feel if we lynch through the poe's we'll most likely win unless scum is hiding amongst the semi-provable power roles. Honeslty I wouldn't be surprised if there was one in there, but I think the majority of scum left will be in the poe pile.
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@Resyx, Zoko pretty obviously breadcrumbed in one of his posts.
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@Resyx: Please try to keep your votes outside of Quote tags.
I realize the coding of this forum is a pain sometimes, but still. It's happened twice now. I will count them this time, but probably not any longer.
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[DAY 3] 15th GIANT-SIZED VOTECOUNT; or, the "Heh heh, that shouldn't be funny should it" votecount.
CARNAGE currently leads the votecount with 13 votes, and is at "Majority Lynch" +4.
With 16 players alive and accounted for, the "Majority Lynch" is 9; probably.
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@Ahlyis: I never included you when I said "everyone". I don't need to explain myself, it's more than obvious that you can't be included when anyone refers to capable voters. As for those with voting restrictions, the ends more than justify the means. No matter what happens, I believe this will be worth testing out.
Worse case scenario is we move our votes over to someone else after nothing happens.
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KK, shock and PV need to get onto ISO right away. I believe if they do not do so they are being blatently antitown.
Also, I don't want any more modkills, so POST EVERYONE
Also, maybe weakening of ISO makes him dieable by daykills? Does anyone have a handy daykill?
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I've learned through a secret Rumor Mill source that Carnage, being so weak from fighting heroes, is just a few hands short from death. Maybe if we had the Hulk...
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But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake."
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PV, Shock, vote ISO or get lynched.
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But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake."
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Ok, I am just going back to my "ignore Jay" strategy.
Like I said, lazy.
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<---- this is me ignoring Jay
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IsoSTARDUST wrote:
LnGrrrR wrote:
Iso, Freddeh said that was his last shot. So would you be willing to townside starting toMorrow?
I guess. I'm gonna up my bodycount next Day once I figure out what it is, too.
Okay, thanks.
Burning_Earth wrote:
KK, shock and PV need to get onto ISO right away. I believe if they do not do so they are being blatently antitown.
Also, I don't want any more modkills, so POST EVERYONE
Also, maybe weakening of ISO makes him dieable by daykills? Does anyone have a handy daykill?
Please answer my question, Burning Earth.
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@mark, considering I'm pressuring both proph and grr on why they are giving each other undue town pants and not just picking some pointless fight, I see no reason to desist. Do you see nothing wrong with them doing so and refusing to explain why? As for pere, I see no reason to lynch him just because he has a posting restriction. Given that he wasn't on the to be modkilled list, his not posting is not something the mod has concern with. Rather, I'd prefer to focus on people that are scummy.
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I am down for lurker lynching Peregrine. He may not be able to post on the weekends, but there sure as heck have been a lot of weekdays to post, even with a restriction.
So I decided to go check his posts actually by clicking on every page of the thread and doing a Ctrl+F for PeregrineV since the View All Posts function is a joke. Here are all three of his posts in their magnificence:
Post 1
Claims his restriction and says he will post a lot during the night. He posted zero times N1. He says he will post another post in the Day, which confirms he can actually post during the Day and more than once if need be, but of course that never happened. Places a vote on Iso when we were still testing him D1, which doesn't say much, but proves he has a vote as it appeared in later vote counts. He gives his reads which is just a town/scum/neutral list with absolutely zero insight. Claims he has been following, and actually had reads, but forgot them. Again, states that he is reading the thread.
This post is basically pointless.
Post 2
Posts to say he can post and before he does anything game relevant he wants to know if their are other players that can post at Night.
Again, pointless.
Post 3
Asks Ahl to sum up the game state and he hasn't been seen since.
In summary he has done nothing and isn't even trying to do anything. He says he is reading and Zinger didn't include him in the prod list for mod-kill, so he must be communicating somewhere, whether it's a QT or via PM. That says to me he is involved in the game, but is choosing not to contribute anything. I think after this Iso lynch attempt is done I will be on board with lynching PV in the absence of any obvscum presenting themselves. The trick is, from what others have implied in needing our full voting power to lynch Iso, we would need him to show up and vote putting us in a bit of a stalemate.
I have a wedding I will be out of town for starting tomorrow so, @Zinger - V/LA from Friday - Sunday, but if the Iso thing hasn't resolved itself or PV hasn't posted by the time I get back, I say lynching him is a good move.
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I have a wedding I will be out of town for starting tomorrow so, @Zinger - V/LA from Friday - Sunday, but if the Iso thing hasn't resolved itself or PV hasn't posted by the time I get back, I say lynching him is a good move.
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I'm actually warming to the lurker lynch proposition. I think it wouyld be better for the game if PV was dead
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The reason to lynch Peregrine is that assuming we go off of just the POE piles and he's one of those, and his post restriction will make it hard for him to prove himself without some kind of Innocent Child role. Rather than take the long way round in debate, or wait until the end, we just cut the knot.
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But at least saying "You've activated my trap card" is better than "What you, my good sir, have just done is created certain circumstances that have allowed me to play my trap card for its alternate cost, therefore I will slam it down on the table in a futile attempt to make you feel like you have made a mistake."
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@Jay: You're absolutely right. Though it's not our fault that he has this awful restriction. It's the mod that gave him that. Does he deserve to die for that? No. Do we deserve to be brought down a peg because of it? No.
I proposed earlier that if he does not vote soon, we switch to someone that isn't so hard to kill. I believe I already listed my alternate pick, I won't repeat it now as it would be pointless.
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I am sorry LM, but that just sounds like BS.
Peregrine never said he couldn't post during the Day, just that it would be detrimental to his health. You know wha else is detrimental to your health? Getting lynched.
He also said he could post in the Night, but barely has. If he is town, we aren't losing a whole lot at the moment.
If he doesn't do anything by Monday, I am moving my vote to him, claim or no.
Anyone who thinks Peregrine isn't the lynch, I want you to EXPLICITLY put who you want to lynch. None of this BS "I already made a case! Read through the thread to find out!" Just put down whoever you think the lynch should be.
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What I want for my birthday is a lynch. if Iso doesn't drop dead before my brthday, I will support a Pere lynch to make it happen. My birthday is Tuesday.
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@Jay: Yea I meant that I don't think the troll alignment is considered a threat to the town, that's all. If you think otherwise by all means hunt them down, but I think it's a wild goose chase.
You don't have to be classified a threat to the town to be harmful to town. Take Seppel firing off his day kill (I'm using that as fact for reasons that will follow) willy nilly for example. That was hardly something everybody should just ignore. This also doesn't take into account that if you identify who isn't mafia that leaves a smaller pool of people that can be mafia. I wouldn't expect a non-town like you to follow this reasoning though.
I've finished looking back over Proph in relation to Seppel. The conclusion is that at no point does Proph even look Seppel's way, other than to defend him using his ability as "not mafia". He also states that ability is a kill ability and avoids answering a question of why an ability using the phrase "disappearing the cow" is a kill over a blink when the player that was targeted doesn't die, but blinks. From this we can further gather that he has more insight into Grr's role than he is letting on but not necessarily Seppel's. At this point I think it's likely that Grr's role is one shot immunity from a kill and a lynch. This would grant Proph the knowledge that Seppel's ability is in fact a kill and not a blink, explain why Grr blinked on that ability, explain why lynching at this juncture would be a "waste", and correlate back to why Grr would be afraid to claim, as his invulnerability would be limited. For this to be tied into a masonry, however, would be a bit OP. The logical conclusion is that Grr and Proph share an alignment that allows them to talk outside of the thread. This could be Troll alignment that Seppel could have been party to, using the mafia shoots mafia for town pants strategy Proph explained earlier. I feel this is further propegated by the fact that Day 1 Proph kept himself off of his analyzed "townie" list, saying specifically that he doesn't include himself in his analysis, yet today is doing whatever he can to give himself town pants as well as his PIC, Grr.
@Grr and Proph, as they say "the jig is up". Clearly there's something going on with you two and at this point hiding it is a hinderance to the town. If you actually are town, the best move for you is to lay your cards on the table. So what's your next move?
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unvote iso
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This is literally all we have to do toDay.
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Jay,
Sharing info about my role does not help town, so no. If enough people think I am scummy enough to run up, then I will claim as normal. Putting info into the thread about my role doesn't help town in any way right now.
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Unvote;
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'nuff said!
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If someone wants me to read/respond Jay's posts please requote them.
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@Grr, information is beneficial to the town itself. You do realize that's what town's aim is in this game, right? To gain information that will aid them in deciphering who is mafia and who is not. By withholding information needless you deprive the town of both the information itself and more time that town will have to waste on running you up just to get it. Nine times out of ten that information, if revealed, isn't going to be harmful to the town and only is withheld because it's of more benefit to the individual to do so. So what we have on your part is a clear decision that your win con is more important than the town's and likely lesson learned from last time that if you admit to not being town, there's a good chance you'll get lynched anyways.
As for Proph, he's continually blocking players through the software, so how can he be claiming to be scum hunting when he's quite literally limiting what he's viewing? It's clear his aim isn't a town win either, given that.
When we consider the two pushing a Peri lynch the hardest aren't working with town's best interest in mind, I see no reason to follow suit.
Unvote. Vote: Proph
Don't expect my vote to move until he's dead.
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Jay,
According to that logic, every game of Mafia should start with a mass roleclaim.
Me outing information at this time does nothing to help the town; it gives scum more info to work with when false claiming, gaming the setup, determining NK's etc etc.
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@Jay: I can't pretend to know exactly how this game is designed but I know for a fact that Magical Trevor would have the ability to make things disappear and reappear to and from a parallel dimension with beans. The ability would most likely allow him to "kill" someone, because he probably chooses if/when to bring someone back from that dimension. Unless that person has an immunity or some ability that allows teleportation.
Unvote;
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I refuse to kill Peregrine just because of some limitation. Unless we know for sure he isn't visiting the thread anymore, I'm only going to vote for Iso and Shockwave(for toDay, at least).
PeregrineV currently leads the votecount with 6 votes, and is at "Majority Lynch" -3.
With 16 players alive and accounted for, the "Majority Lynch" is 9; probably.
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JayDreven wrote:
I think you're not acting in town's best interest. Which forces me to "waste" this time. As I've already pointed out. If you feel contrary, you can feel free to point out how you've displayed a plethora of town interest behavior, how Proph has done so, or why it is that my logic is wrong instead of simply stating that you know best, as that's just an excuse (and one anybody of any alignment can throw out to smoke screen) to hide behind.
Jay,
This is the post with the questions you referred to.
1) you can feel free to point out how you've displayed a plethora of town interest behavior - No, I'm not going to do that. What purpose would it serve? Even if I pointed out what I had done, it could just as easily come from scum.
2) how Proph has done so - I already explained to you why I think Proph's stances against scum came from a town mindset rather than a scum one. I know Proph's meta from another site, and he's not usually one to bus his partners right out of the gate on D1. If you don't like this explanation, fine, but don't pretend like I haven't already answered it.
3) why it is that my logic is wrong instead of simply stating that you know best - As I already noted, the only way I could "prove" your logic is wrong would be to out information that is better left unsaid at this moment.
To the rest of you, I'm not getting lynched toDay. Or ever, really. But if you really want to waste your time, by all means, write a case on you, bring me to claim level so I can share the info I have that would ultimately detriment town, and then we can get on to lynching scum. Your call, but no real sweat off my back.
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LnGrrrR wrote:
1) you can feel free to point out how you've displayed a plethora of town interest behavior - No, I'm not going to do that. What purpose would it serve? Even if I pointed out what I had done, it could just as easily come from scum.
It would serve the purpose of explaining why you aren't on the PoE list, which you're more than happy to throw under the bus because you aren't on it.
2) how Proph has done so - I already explained to you why I think Proph's stances against scum came from a town mindset rather than a scum one. I know Proph's meta from another site, and he's not usually one to bus his partners right out of the gate on D1. If you don't like this explanation, fine, but don't pretend like I haven't already answered it.
No you didn't. You've made multiple stances about it doesn't make sense despite me showing that Proph has been using this game as a testing ground. At no point have you tried to explain why, given that, it still doesn't make sense. "Cuz I said so" doesn't qualify as explaining in any discussion.
3) why it is that my logic is wrong instead of simply stating that you know best - As I already noted, the only way I could "prove" your logic is wrong would be to out information that is better left unsaid at this moment.
Really? So you have to claim your role to show that Proph doesn't have extra insight into you? Why so? Because from my standpoint, it should be easy for you to simply jump into the thread, pull up key posts that show that Proph is just deducing based on public information. If you can't do that it really doesn't prove my logic is wrong, but proves it's right.
To the rest of you, I'm not getting lynched toDay. Or ever, really. But if you really want to waste your time, by all means, write a case on you, bring me to claim level so I can share the info I have that would ultimately detriment town, and then we can get on to lynching scum. Your call, but no real sweat off my back.
If you aren't getting lynched, why would you feel pressured to claim?
@Ari, The only reason I still see to lynch Pere is if you actually think he's scum. 99% of the cases formed on him aren't based on him being scum though, just lack of contribution. However we have a soft claim from him, at detriment to himself, day 1 to explain why he wouldn't be posting much. Night 1 fell on Pere's downtime, as he's not a weekend poster and Night 2 lasted a very short time. Day 2 he posted again at detriment to himself, probably because days are lasting so long in this game. But since we don't know what, if anything, posting during the day is for him, I don't see how anybody can just run around faulting him for 1) not posting willy nilly just because he has posted during the day before and 2) falling inactive given at this point he's almost playing a silent role (from a public standpoint).
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I second what Jay just said.
@Iso: Haha you must be joking. You think he only has one ability and it's a one-shot? F*** no. I'm willing to bet that his ability to weaken you is unlimited and he just figured that out.
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Jay,
I'm going to stop answering your questions, because you don't want real answers, you just want me to claim. If you want me to claim, get a case and a posse. Other than that, not doing it.
And no, Proph has no further insight onto me. Someone else does. I will leave it at that.
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Iso, you should kill Lordmark XD.
Also, looks like just JD has half a vote today...interesting.
I'm guessing LnG is lovers with someone, so he'll die when his buddy dies. Doesn't really lend him towards either alignment, but it would explain his reluctance to claim.
Unvote;Vote: Clinic
I would rather lynch Clinic than Pere, but if we slow to a complete crawl again i'll swap back over I guess.
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@Mark: He said he had 2 shots and he's used both of them on me. Are you illiterate?
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#1882Jan 18, 2014 23:03:24 (Edited)
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u guise r dum
Who am I Daykilling on Day 4?
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Probably nobody. You have failed every single kill attempt so far....
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Then maybe you all should stop being Unkillable. .-.
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Are you sure it's us? I mean carnage does seem like the type that would probably have...performance issues...
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You're daykilling Peregrine if he doesn't post @ night.
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Can everyone get on Shock please? Can we please end this Day before spring arrives?
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LnGrrrR wrote:
Pretty much Ahl.
Look, I don't care if we lynch PV or Shock at this point. Both haven't done anything for two Days at least. For all those willing to vote Shock, what if he doesn't show up to claim? Are we going to waffle on him too?
Given that most of the lurkers modkilled were (SURPRISE!) lurkers, I wouldn't be surprised if there's more lurker scum out there.
Since everyone is getting cold feet on PV, let's move to Shock, who doesn't have any post restrictions.
Unvote PeregrineV
Vote Shockwave
This is slightly unnerving to me. I appreciate the support, but I make a case on PV and you jump on it right away pretty much no questions asked. Then I make another case on why I would also be OK with a Shock lynch, I don't even vote him yet, and you immediately jump to Shock and don't even mention my case or a real reason other than people getting cold feet on PV. It seems like you don't really care who we lynch, which is a bad sign for town. At the time you switched to this vote, none of the people that were voting PV had switched to Shock and PV still had 6 votes to Shock's 2. PV had a lot stronger following, not to mention more of the people voting him were very strong town-reads by the majority of people. And Clinic even added to PV as well which would put him at if you, Proph, and B_E didn't all jump ship together. So why switch?
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unvote vote shockwave
Same as what I said above about LnG. What gives?
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@Arioch: I apologize for not doing the re-reading myself, but I did say I would do it on the weekend. I appreciate that you did the work instead of waiting for me, I don't know what to say other than thanks a lot. You're absolutely right about the 'view all posts' button. It worked for me once like a week ago, but even then it was very limited. Now I can't get it to work at all.
After lynching either Shock or Iso I would be fine with testing Peregrine since he is obviously not following this game anymore and is, as someone already said, dead weight.
Nah it's fine. I wanted to form my own opinion anyway so I just went ahead and did it. Nothing against you.
The reason I wanted to lynch PV isn't because he was just dead weight, it was because his actions felt decidely anti-town to me. I don't think using our lynch on someone soley for the reason of being inactive is that great and would rather lynch someone that looks scummy. We have vigs or modkills for inactives.
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no u mark
Arioch, he said it toDay.
No, he didn't. That was the exact point in my reply before. I quoted where he claimed and he never said there was a limit. I looked through all his posts from then on and he never mentions a limit. LnG said that Fred was out of shots on it and asked you to town side. Fred is out of shots of his Night end ability, but he never said his Day roleblock ability had any limit. There is even this post from you in which you seem to understand that Fred can target Carnage indefinitely.
Arioch,
Let's say I am wrong, and Freddeh has more shots. What good does it do to town to point that out?
Point taken. I have a problem not correcting false information when I notice it, and was thinking in my head it's not that big of a deal letting the cat out of the bag because if Fred is able to continue blocking him, he wont' die anyway and maybe Iso will be more willing to town-side. Apologies though, Fred.
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You're daykilling Peregrine if he doesn't post @ night.
I like this.
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Can everyone get on Shock please? Can we please end this Day before spring arrives?
Or if not at least give a reason why you don't think he is a good lynch and vote for someone that you do think is a good lynch.
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Ari, once we got done with everyone claiming, I'm pretty sure I have been saying Shock or PV since. Your case was good, but I believe I was advocating for either of those beforehand.
Shock felt towny to me D1, but his latest, "Hey guys I am here!" do-nothing post was horrible.
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Also, curse you for ruining a later moment!
I mean, there's the 4 you listed and then yourself, right?
), and 2) it would only affect himself and not his whole team, which makes more sense on a small lynch threshold imo.
