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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 5:46 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 8:29 pm 
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I'll preface this by saying... you're probably going to have a problem with the use of Lorwyn.
Besides the fact that we really don't know what state Lorwyn is in given the ending of Shadowmoor, the fae themselves are a big problem in this specific instance.
Namely, fae are sort of created beings on Lorwyn, generated by Oona in pods. They sprout from flowers in groups (known as cliques) and have brothers and sisters, but no parents. They don't join them, they are born with them. (Being scions of oona, it's questionable if they are natural enough to even have a spark, but I'd be willing to squint at that and make things fuzzy enough to work with)

Aside from that, they also have a magnificently fleeting lifespan, approximately not much longer than literally a couple of years. Any faerie that had been born at the time of Lorwyn would almost certainly be dead by this point in time. (I qualify that with "almost" because creative might bloody well retcon that fact if it so suited them.)

Lastly, the use of Wydwen is... ill advised. She's a canon character and that throws up really really big flags, even if she's more or less unused in the actual canon. (just another note, merrow don't have pirate ships. The Lorwyn merrow craft vessels out of water for the other races, but they don't have ships of their own.)

So, that's a lot of hurdles to consider. I don't know how much impact that'd have on your story, but as a backstory, it serves some serious potential snarls. That being said, in broad needs, there isn't anything here that is SO indelibly tied to Lorwyn that it couldn't be adapted for a homebrew plane that you could stitch together to serve your own needs.

Further, Bant might be a problem too, dependent on where on the timeline we're talking about this, because there were some really MAJOR changes brought about because of the conflux.

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 8:48 pm 
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Thanks for the feedback!

There's a lot of information that needs to be digested and considered here. I'll see if I can make appropriate changes to the story and character.

But if that's not possible, I'll probably end up scrapping the character and taking elements of it to create a new character.


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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 8:54 pm 
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Crest wrote:
Thanks for the feedback!

There's a lot of information that needs to be digested and considered here. I'll see if I can make appropriate changes to the story and character.

But if that's not possible, I'll probably end up scrapping the character and taking elements of it to create a new character.

I think the core of the character is definitely solid enough to use. If you need any help, or just an extra brain to pick about directions you could take, we'll be happy to help!

Like I said earlier, the central premise isn't so intrinsically tied to things that it HAS to have Lorwyn specifically, but just some of the same notes that Lorwyn has. If you can create something to stand as a sort of customized proxy, it should all be fine.

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 9:18 pm 
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Thanks for the encouragement Barinellos.

After a quick consideration, I can definitely see how creating a world would solve many of the problems that faces the development of my character so far. I'll see what I can brew up in the world building department that has similar features to Lorwyn while retaining its own identity.

You brought up a great point in the problems with using Bant as a setting. My intention was to use the plane before Alara fused as one around 4603. Additionally, my intention for the character was to travel through the specific nations in Bant as the first arc to the story. Do you see any foreseeable problems with this?

In the meantime, I've snipped my story for now. Once I've received some constructive feedback and rewrite bits of it, I'll be posting it once the proper adjustments are made.


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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 9:21 pm 
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Crest wrote:
In the meantime, I've snipped my story for now. Once I've received some constructive feedback and rewrite bits of it, I'll be posting it once the proper adjustments are made.

You literally deleted it as I was making my comments...

:(

Anyway, I'm going to post them here, and you can ignore them or use them as you see fit!

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Comments on Vorpix's story


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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 9:46 pm 
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Thanks again for taking the time to read and posting feedback. It really means a lot. :)

Bant is another potential issue. Personally, I mostly try to steer clear of canon planes, or, if I do use them, I make sure to use them on very, VERY small scales, things that wouldn't be noticed on a grand scale, because those are the sorts of things that can get screwed over by official canon if Wizards decides to revisit the plane or make something or another canon.


I was originally going to have Vorpix complete missions based on spying/espionage for Dhure and have him join the Olive Branch and the caste system earning sigils along the way. Canonically, The Olive Branch is an organization based in Eos that is dedicated to brokering peace among all the nations of Bant without much success. I was hoping for Vorpix to get involved with the organization still ultimately failing so as to not disrupt canon but I can see how even getting involved to this scale could be a problem. I'm not sure how you would constitute something on a small or grand scale but I'd like your opinion on which side it's leaning toward from your viewpoint.

The last thing I want to mention is your use of dialect with the Rhox. I have personally found that it is rarely a good idea to write dialects unless there is a very good reason. Now, like I said, I'm not strong on Bant, but just speaking personally, this is not the way I envision Rhox warrior monks speaking. And even if it were, I wouldn't need the written dialect to get that. I personally advise just writing the Rhox's dialect normally, and allowing voice tags and word choice to bring his voice to live.


Thanks for bringing this up. I was having great hesitation with whether or not I wanted to give Dhure an accent. The dilemma came from if I wanted to let the readers decide or if I wanted to be a bit more concrete with some small details. Ultimately, I decided for it as a way to inject more personality into the character. But judging by your response, I'm beginning to wonder if I'm simply using it as a crutch and a stereotype instead of letting the character speak for itself.


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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 10:26 pm 
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Howdy, Crest!

I'm sorry to see that I missed the chance to read your story, but I just wanted to poke my head in here to say "welcome!"

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 1:46 am 
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Crest wrote:
You brought up a great point in the problems with using Bant as a setting. My intention was to use the plane before Alara fused as one around 4603. Additionally, my intention for the character was to travel through the specific nations in Bant as the first arc to the story. Do you see any foreseeable problems with this?
Pre-conflux, I don't foresee any immediate problems, but it's rather a sort of specter of the canon that I'm concerned with there. Bant, as it turns out, is an insanely popular spot for walkers.

That alone really isn't anything that would disqualify your character from going there, I should mention, but it just makes me feel... itchy, when we know that Gideon and Elspeth both settled there for an extended period. It's just a worry of glut, but destination isn't the same as origin, so I feel you could use Bant and it wouldn't cause problems.

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Barinellos just made my boots explode. I think there's third degree burns on my bum bum.

Oh.. And Welcome, Crest!


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