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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:03 pm 
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Greetings, friends!

Submitted for the approval of the Midnight Society, I am honored to present to you a new story by the inimitable RuwinReborn and the slightly-more-imitable Yours Truly. This tale is called "Climb Every Mountain," and I very much hope that you will enjoy it.

Before the curtain rises, I want to offer a big thanks to Ruwin, both for his direct contributions to this piece -- which are many -- and for bringing his wonderful characters to the table. He was, as ever, an absolute pleasure to work with.

And, as ever, any thoughts, criticisms, or suggestions about this story are most welcome. I've said it before, but I will say it again, because it is truer than ever: I am indebted to everyone who takes the time to read my work, and I am doubly indebted to everyone who takes the time to share their impressions. Your comments help me to do better work than I would otherwise, and the shared creative experience which they foster is, for me, one of the primary delights of this project.

Anyway, that's enough of my patter. I'll get myself off the stage, now, so that the actual show can start.

I. The Darkest Hour

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II. Breaking the Ice

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III. A Light in the Darkness

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IV. Sleeping Dragons

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V. Epilogue

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:52 am 
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I'm just bumping this because Luna bumped A Name in a Book, and I wanted to prove I could do it, too.

That, or that I'm going to read this some time between right now and tomorrow evening.

Looking forward to it!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:12 pm 
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I'm just bumping this because Luna bumped A Name in a Book, and I wanted to prove I could do it, too.

"You're doing it, Peter! You're doing it!"

That, or that I'm going to read this some time between right now and tomorrow evening.

Looking forward to it!

I very much hope that you enjoy the story, Raven!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:48 pm 
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Alright, I have now read this, and I am prepared to give my thoughts. I read it over the course of last night and this morning, so if anything seems disjointed, blame it on my sleep patterns.

First and foremost, excellent work from both of you, as per the usual. The story was very long, but extremely engaging. It had a really interesting mix of "big" and "little" moments, and of course, all those "little moments that are actually really big." The story, as with pretty much everything you guys write, was exceedingly well-written, with a good sense of pacing and plot and all the rest of it. All in all, a very good read.

I will confine the remainder of my comments to a spoiler block, in order to not, well, spoil anything.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:27 pm 
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Also, Orcish, how many Beryl stories does this make? I count eleven, but I'm not sure if I missed one or not. (Small Magic, A Bet on Kindness, To Walk Across Fire, Reclamation, Friends and Killers, The Lies we Tell, Complications, Between Two Worlds, A Name in a Book, The Fire, and Climb Every Mountain.) Did I miss any?

Quite an achievement, though! Well done!


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Thanks so much for reading, Raven, and for taking the time to share your thoughts -- they are much appreciated, sir!

First and foremost, excellent work from both of you, as per the usual. The story was very long, but extremely engaging. It had a really interesting mix of "big" and "little" moments, and of course, all those "little moments that are actually really big." The story, as with pretty much everything you guys write, was exceedingly well-written, with a good sense of pacing and plot and all the rest of it. All in all, a very good read.

Well, thank you for the very kind words -- I'm really glad that you enjoyed the story. This was a fun one for me to work on, which is probably reflected in the fact that, as you noted, it is an awfully long story. (Ruwin and I had a running joke that, if someone didn't put the brakes on me, Aloise and Beryl might never actually get to the top of the mountain.) But I'm glad that you felt like the pacing was good. In the end, that's what I was hoping I could hang my hat on -- that, while the story is long, it does have a progression to it, and that enough big and little moments occur along that progression to reward the reader for coming along on the journey. And my hope is that all the steps along that journey feel purposeful.

But, yeah, it's long. If people feel that there are sections where the story drags, please don't be shy about saying so!

Anyway, for the rest of the discussion, let's step into my spoiler office...

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Also, Orcish, how many Beryl stories does this make? I count eleven, but I'm not sure if I missed one or not. (Small Magic, A Bet on Kindness, To Walk Across Fire, Reclamation, Friends and Killers, The Lies we Tell, Complications, Between Two Worlds, A Name in a Book, The Fire, and Climb Every Mountain.) Did I miss any?

Quite an achievement, though! Well done!

I think it is eleven, yeah.

God... how did that all happen?

I guess the metric that counts is that I like all those stories. I'm really, deeply happy that other people seem to have enjoyed them, too. :)

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I'm in agreement with Raven - that IS quite an achievement. Does that make Beryl the most written about M:EM character? I don't even think Fisco has shown up in that many stories! Well done, sir!

Seeing it all in one place for the first time is striking, but I think the length of the piece works in it's favor, to be honest. I didn't feel as though it dragged on at all, even though this has been in conception for uh... awhile. OL does a good job with the pacing on this one, let's be honest. He probably gives me too much credit, I didn't add much at all! He's the star here. ;)

I mean, I totally read a portion of this story as I was reading it, promptly forgot that I had read it, and then messaged OL asking where it had gone because I really liked it.

Yeesh. >_<

Anyway, I hope there's room in that office because I'm going inside.

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I'm in agreement with Raven - that IS quite an achievement. Does that make Beryl the most written about M:EM character? I don't even think Fisco has shown up in that many stories! Well done, sir!

Well, to be fair, it's not like Beryl was in all those stories by herself. I mean, I think of this story as more of an Aloise story than a Beryl story.

Aloise has been in three of the eleven "Beryl stories," for that matter, and she's wonderful in all of them. Alessa was in four, and she's an absolute force of nature in all those stories, too. Fisco likewise steals the scenes he's in, as does Nasperge.

So, I've certainly spilled a lot of ink on Beryl, that's for sure. But many other people have contributed as well. Beryl's story has hardly been a one-character or one-writer show.

And I guess I just hope that people have enjoyed reading about her even a fraction of as much as I've enjoyed writing about her. :)


He probably gives me too much credit, I didn't add much at all! He's the star here.

Well, without conceding the premise here, I want to call attention to one specific piece of this story which Ruwin wrote, and which is one of my absolute favorite moments in the whole piece:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:46 am 
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@Orcish: Still an achievement that you can feel justified in priding yourself over/in/on/about!


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@Orcish: Still an achievement that you can feel justified in priding yourself over/in/on/about!

You're all making me blush. :blush:

But, yes, I am very, very happy that this has grown up into what it has. Never in my wildest imagination, as they say.

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Oh, hey, I was reminded earlier today that this needs some more comments! I'd love to discuss this piece with anyone who would like to! So I'll just bump this up because it really shouldn't be on the second page just yet.

Also, I never responded to what OL wrote about that part and I wanted to take a minute to discuss it anyway!

Like he mentioned, that scene (at the risk of sounding arrogant) IS pretty great. Haha, man I've been getting emotional lately over stuff like this (I blame Steven Universe) but I remember that, when I was writing this, I couldn't think of anything for Aloise to say. Which is so weird, right? Because she talks A LOT. That's Aloise for you, she's chatty. And it was so weird and unlike her to be so quiet and unsure, in my mind.

But I realized it's because I was trying to fit the story into a little box, you know? Aloise was going to convince Beryl to stay because that's the sort of thing that happens in these stories, right? And, I mean, I play out scenes like this with different characters all the time in my head, and I just could not get Aloise to say anything that made sense. She had nothing at all, no way to convince Beryl that she was worth it, that she was cared about, that she deserved to feel safe and loved.

Then, I realized that Aloise talks a lot, but it's always waaay technical. It's rambly and scholarly, sure, but she uses words like she uses tools - for a good purpose. And words is never something Beryl has trusted, because words are just... words. She has this name - Trevanei - and it was SUPPOSED to mean something, but it never did. It never will. She had to work to make words fit for her, to make herself believe in just a few of them, and even then, she was lied to and cheated and hurt because of words.

So there was never anything Aloise could have SAID (Disclaimer: There are probably three words Aloise could have said but that's another story entirely.) to convinced Beryl to stay. It didn't work, not in my head at least. So, instead, of talking, Aloise acts.

And when she acts, when she lays out a plan, when she talks about clothes and boots and money, she's showing Beryl that she means business. She is showing Beryl that she will follow her, wherever she goes, and she will be right beside her with the right thing to say and the right equipment for the job. Because making sure someone has warm boots is another way of saying "I love you", really, and I'm just super emotional about this right now and am probably rambling.

Anyway, Aloise is a woman of action. It never made sense for her to make someone stay in one place - instead, she encouraged Beryl to move forward, and then promised to be there right beside her. Then, it clicked, and it was great, the end.

I need a tissue.

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One of my favorite things about this group is listening to people talk about why they love their own art, in deep and technical and well thought out detail.


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One of my favorite things about this group is listening to people talk about why they love their own art, in deep and technical and well thought out detail.

I like my's own work 'cause it sounds real purdy.


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One of my favorite things about this group is listening to people talk about why they love their own art, in deep and technical and well thought out detail.

Well, Lord knows that I love to talk about the pieces I work on, but I always sort of assume that's the part of my posts which people skip past whilst rolling their eyes and muttering to themselves, "God, this guy is something else..."

So, glad to hear that's not the case?

Not that I think my analysis necessarily deserves the descriptor "well thought out." Usually it takes the form of: "Here's what I was sort of, kind of, maybe trying to accomplish, and I'm glad that it seems like I didn't totally screw it up!"

But I can definitely say that I'm continually astounded by the sophistication and nuance of the comments other people offer on my stories. You all see things that sometimes I don't even see. And that, similarly, is one of my favorite things about this group. It really does feel like getting this wonderful letter in the mail from an old friend, every time someone reads and comments. I can't emphasize enough how remarkable that is, both as a creative aid, and as a psychic reward.


Like he mentioned, that scene (at the risk of sounding arrogant) IS pretty great.

The truth is never arrogant. And this bit of writing is great.


Haha, man I've been getting emotional lately over stuff like this (I blame Steven Universe) but I remember that, when I was writing this, I couldn't think of anything for Aloise to say. Which is so weird, right? Because she talks A LOT. That's Aloise for you, she's chatty. And it was so weird and unlike her to be so quiet and unsure, in my mind.

But I realized it's because I was trying to fit the story into a little box, you know? Aloise was going to convince Beryl to stay because that's the sort of thing that happens in these stories, right? And, I mean, I play out scenes like this with different characters all the time in my head, and I just could not get Aloise to say anything that made sense. She had nothing at all, no way to convince Beryl that she was worth it, that she was cared about, that she deserved to feel safe and loved.

Then, I realized that Aloise talks a lot, but it's always waaay technical. It's rambly and scholarly, sure, but she uses words like she uses tools - for a good purpose. And words is never something Beryl has trusted, because words are just... words. She has this name - Trevanei - and it was SUPPOSED to mean something, but it never did. It never will. She had to work to make words fit for her, to make herself believe in just a few of them, and even then, she was lied to and cheated and hurt because of words.

So there was never anything Aloise could have SAID (Disclaimer: There are probably three words Aloise could have said but that's another story entirely.) to convinced Beryl to stay. It didn't work, not in my head at least. So, instead, of talking, Aloise acts.

And when she acts, when she lays out a plan, when she talks about clothes and boots and money, she's showing Beryl that she means business. She is showing Beryl that she will follow her, wherever she goes, and she will be right beside her with the right thing to say and the right equipment for the job. Because making sure someone has warm boots is another way of saying "I love you", really, and I'm just super emotional about this right now and am probably rambling.

Anyway, Aloise is a woman of action. It never made sense for her to make someone stay in one place - instead, she encouraged Beryl to move forward, and then promised to be there right beside her. Then, it clicked, and it was great, the end.

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. I worked on this darn story, and I never made that words-versus-actions connection before Ruwin pointed it out. I discover so many things from the commentary which stories generate on this board.

Thanks for sharing this background, Ruwin!


I need a tissue.

Whereas I, by contrast, am unmoved and dry-eyed!

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*reaches for the Kleenex when he thinks nobody's looking...*


I like my's own work 'cause it sounds real purdy.

Pretty as a picture. :)

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So, I'm in the process of reading this and I decided that I'd go ahead and post my thoughts on it as I go, mostly because I might not be able to finish it in one go.
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@ Lord Luna -- Thanks for reading, and for your comments! I'm glad that you enjoyed the first two parts, and I hope that you like the rest of the story as well!

(It's a long one, I know -- so no hurry!)

My thoughts in-line with yours:

part 1


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