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Alright, there was a general consensus to put up a mirror to our Archive on the Archive Of Our Own site, called AO3 for short. I accepted to do most, if not all, of the necessary legwork to set up the account and port the work, but there are still several questions that I'd like not to just decide on my own. I'll try to structure this first post the best I can; feel free to answer any of the following questions, which I will underline, or to suggest more.

Part 1: Account

My own AO3 account has invite codes that should allow me to skip the wait for one. (If any M:EMber fancies one you just have to ask) That said, there are multiple details to be decided, some mostly aesthetic while others more functional:

1.A: Should the account be based on the mail used by the M:EM Archivist account, or a brand new one?

1.B: What should the name and profile picture of the Archivist be?

-The name question is less obvious than you'd think, as AO3 doesn't allow for spaces within usernames; leaving no space (M:EMArchivist) doesn't enthuse me, and I'm on the fence about the underscore (M:EM_Archivist). We could even be cutesy and do something like M:EM_Archivist_O3.
-Picking no profile picture isn't as elegant a choice on AO3, as it would default to the site logo.

Tentative answers: M:EM_Archivist, logo.

1.C: The About and stuff

AO3 lets you put up a Title, a Location and a short About of 2k characters. In my experience, they are read only occasionally, but this would be the main place where we can link back to this forum, so I think we should put together something.

Part 2: Work Body

2.A: What version of the works should I port?

Namely: is there any difference from the versions on the Archive subforum and the NGA wiki?

Tentative answer: The Archive version is the best updated.

2.B: Are there works beyond the Archive that deserve to be ported?

-AO3 allows for "Pseuds", sub-accounts linked to the main one, that would allow to put up works that are not part of the literal Archive under the "M:EM_Extra" or "M:EM_Beyond" pseuds or smth, which should allow for another About and stuff. The M:EM High School, Suppose Prose and Throw the Gauntlet threads all come to mind, despite not being moderated (specifically, writing for other people's characters without consent) and the work put into stuff like Feature Releases.

Tentative answers: There's a number of threads with archive-worthy material:
-M:EM High School
-Long Story Short
-Throw the Gauntlet
-Suppose Prose
-50 word flash fic
(more suggestions are welcome)

2.C How to translate html tags like quotes and spoilers?

-AO3 allows for limited html, meaning classics like bold, italic, underline and so on, with the option of adding images and stuff. That said, some works employ quotes and spoilers in ways that are integral to the text, and these tags have no direct translation, and need to be reformatted in some way. If someone with more knowledge than me wants to find a creative solution, here's the functioning tags:
allowed html


Part 3: Tagging System

When you post a new work on AO3, there's a lot you can add to your work's presentation, all information that are easily visible and often prominent.
full list

Some are quite obvious, like the Fandoms part, but others less so. Namely:

3.A: How to format plane tags and authors

-Of course, canon planes need only a simple name tag, like "Innistrad". M:EM-exclusive planes, however, are less recognizable at a first glance, but using something like "Jakkard - Plane" could be unwieldy. One can put consecutive tags like Jakkard, Non-Canon Plane (tags appear underlined because they act as links) or smth.
-What about authors? We could text if AO3 has a maximum amount of pseuds, but I'd prefer a solution like "Huey Nomure - Author" or "Author: Huey Nomure"; in this case, we should also determine a standard order for tags to avoid confusion - imho the author tag should be consistently one of the first ones for clarity.

3.B: Standard Tags and Templates

-Mainly, how often should we link to the NGA forums, or put disclaimers about the aim of our project? We can put together some template to put into each work's summary or notes, possibly adding the date of archiving and stuff. Tagging everything as Magic: Extended Multiverse would be fine, although people are free to tag stuff in the same way (I've been doing that, for example) without our consent and come up when one clicks on that tag; I don't predict it being that big of a deal, but still. Adding the "No Canon Characters" or smth like that could be a fair warning for readers?

3.C Ratings and Warnings

-What's the work versions with the most accurate and updated stuff? I would really like to avoid close rereading the entire archive if someone already did at least some of the work. Also, I'm not that good at judging ratings, as I'm pretty sure my standard depictions of violence verge on the graphic, but I generally see them as merely realistic/optimized for rhythm and precision.

3.D Summary, notes and series

-Should I use the summaries offered on the NGA wiki? What about works not on the wiki?
-How we should organize works about the same character? Should only big storylines like WotW be organized in their own series or also smaller cohesive plotlines like Fisco Vane's latest character arc?
-What about required and recommended reading? Not all of these works are well suited to be simply put into a linear series/collection.

3.E Miscellaneous tags

-Rather than come up with individual tags for each work, I think there's merit in putting together a list of standardized tags that I can add when relevant. For example, any MtG-specific race would warrant a tag imho (Vedalken, Noggle and so on) but then I could justify doing that for any non-human race. Common tropes could also be options. Unfortunately, this is an extremely open-ended question; take a stroll on AO3, open any fandom and see what kind of stuff people come up with.

Part 4: Miscellanea

4.A: Should we put some version of the project rules and aims on AO3?

Tentative answer: We could put up a "work" with the extended aims and history of the project should an abridged version not suffice.





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Alright, there was a general consensus to put up a mirror to our Archive on the Archive Of Our Own site, called AO3 for short. I accepted to do most, if not all, of the necessary legwork to set up the account and port the work, but there are still several questions that I'd like not to just decide on my own. I'll try to structure this first post the best I can; feel free to answer any of the following questions, which I will underline, or to suggest more.

Sorry it took so long to respond. Work's been kind of hell lately. Anyway, here are my thoughts, such as they are.

1.A: Should the account be based on the mail used by the M:EM Archivist account, or a brand new one?

I don't really have an opinion on this. I don't know how many of us have access to the current one, but I know I've never signed into it, even though I have used the Archivist account here numerous times, both when I was posting WotW chapters and when I was running the old Highlighted M:EMories thread. If you are going to be running it, it makes sense to use whatever you prefer, although I would let at least a couple of us know how to access it in the event you ever need or want to step down.

1.B: What should the name and profile picture of the Archivist be?

-The name question is less obvious than you'd think, as AO3 doesn't allow for spaces within usernames; leaving no space (M:EMArchivist) doesn't enthuse me, and I'm on the fence about the underscore (M:EM_Archivist). We could even be cutesy and do something like M:EM_Archivist_O3.
-Picking no profile picture isn't as elegant a choice on AO3, as it would default to the site logo.

If spaces are not allowed, I'm fine with the underscore. I would vote for M:EM_Archivist.

As for the profile pic, I would suggest the M:EM logo that Barinellos designed way back. I found this one, though there is likely an earlier one out there, too: Logo.

1.C: The About and stuff

AO3 lets you put up a Title, a Location and a short About of 2k characters. In my experience, they are read only occasionally, but this would be the main place where we can link back to this forum, so I think we should put together something.

Yeah, this seems like a good place to put info about the project and a link to NGA.

Part 2: Work Body

2.A: What version of the works should I port?

Namely: is there any difference from the versions on the Archive subforum and the NGA wiki?

The stuff posted in the Archive sub-thread are the "official" versions. I would post thoses.

2.B: Are there works beyond the Archive that deserve to be ported?

-AO3 allows for "Pseuds", sub-accounts linked to the main one, that would allow to put up works that are not part of the literal Archive under the "M:EM_Extra" or "M:EM_Beyond" pseuds or smth, which should allow for another About and stuff. The M:EM High School, Suppose Prose and Throw the Gauntlet threads all come to mind, despite not being moderated (specifically, writing for other people's characters without consent) and the work put into stuff like Feature Releases.

I like the idea of a Pseudo-posted for our "non-canon" stuff, particularly the High School thread and the 50 word flash fic stuff. There's some really good stuff in the "long story short" thread, too.

2.C How to translate html tags like quotes and spoilers?

-AO3 allows for limited html, meaning classics like bold, italic, underline and so on, with the option of adding images and stuff. That said, some works employ quotes and spoilers in ways that are integral to the text, and these tags have no direct translation, and need to be reformatted in some way. If someone with more knowledge than me wants to find a creative solution, here's the functioning tags:
allowed html

Most of the stories don't require much formatting beyond paragraph indentations. For the ones that do, we would need to figure something out. Speaking only for myself, most of my stories that have spoiler blocks do so for spacing and convenience purpose, not for any formatting reasons. We could also just throw on a disclaimer for some of the pieces that the formatting has been edited from the original posting to accomidate AO3's formatting structure, and if the reader would like to see the original, here is a link.

Incidentally, does AO3 have profanity filters? Because if we do this, I would really like to put up the two canon Orida stories without asterisks.

Part 3: Tagging System
3.A: How to format plane tags and authors

-Of course, canon planes need only a simple name tag, like "Innistrad". M:EM-exclusive planes, however, are less recognizable at a first glance, but using something like "Jakkard - Plane" could be unwieldy. One can put consecutive tags like Jakkard, Non-Canon Plane (tags appear underlined because they act as links) or smth.

I like the idea of Jakkard, Non-Canon Plane, although my instinct says to put the Non-canon Plane tag first. Not knowing AO3 or how its interface works, I'm not sure if it matters much one way or the other.

-What about authors? We could text if AO3 has a maximum amount of pseuds, but I'd prefer a solution like "Huey Nomure - Author" or "Author: Huey Nomure"; in this case, we should also determine a standard order for tags to avoid confusion - imho the author tag should be consistently one of the first ones for clarity.

I like "Author: Huey Nomure." I also agree that the Author should be one of, if not the very, first tag. Again, I don't know the system, so maybe the very first tag would need to be/should be "M:EM" or something, but the author should come very early.

3.B: Standard Tags and Templates

-Mainly, how often should we link to the NGA forums, or put disclaimers about the aim of our project? We can put together some template to put into each work's summary or notes, possibly adding the date of archiving and stuff. Tagging everything as Magic: Extended Multiverse would be fine, although people are free to tag stuff in the same way (I've been doing that, for example) without our consent and come up when one clicks on that tag; I don't predict it being that big of a deal, but still. Adding the "No Canon Characters" or smth like that could be a fair warning for readers?

I'm inclined to go with your recommendation here, as you know AO3 the best. I don't really know if I can weigh in on this one without knowing the system.

3.C Ratings and Warnings

-What's the work versions with the most accurate and updated stuff? I would really like to avoid close rereading the entire archive if someone already did at least some of the work. Also, I'm not that good at judging ratings, as I'm pretty sure my standard depictions of violence verge on the graphic, but I generally see them as merely realistic/optimized for rhythm and precision.

I did not enjoy it when the wiki went live and we tried to rate everything. I'm just not good at it. Personally, I would rather just not bother, unless AO3 has some sort of system whereby certain subject matters are supposed to be avoided. We do have stories in the Archive that deal with some likely triggering issues, including violence and sexual assault, so if that's the kind of thing AO3 warns about, we certainly could, too. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry too much.

As for copy editing, Luna gave most if not everything that's up a once-over, and that was after the initial reading and the voting. It doesn't mean that everything is perfect, certainly, but good enough for our purposes, I think.

3.D Summary, notes and series

-Should I use the summaries offered on the NGA wiki? What about works not on the wiki?
-How we should organize works about the same character? Should only big storylines like WotW be organized in their own series or also smaller cohesive plotlines like Fisco Vane's latest character arc?
-What about required and recommended reading? Not all of these works are well suited to be simply put into a linear series/collection.

I think my recommendation would be the way I post a lot of my stories, many of which fit into a larger story arc, like the Thorneau Rebellion or the Daneera/Kerik arc. At the top of the story, have some sort of a note regarding which stories are recommended to read first, and if possible a link to them. I can certainly provide that for my arcs, and I think the Orcish wrote up some for the Jackie and the Beryl arcs, as well. I made a thread a while back called "Arcs and Triumphs" that put together the story orders up to that point. As for the summaries, again, I don't know Ao3.

3.E Miscellaneous tags

-Rather than come up with individual tags for each work, I think there's merit in putting together a list of standardized tags that I can add when relevant. For example, any MtG-specific race would warrant a tag imho (Vedalken, Noggle and so on) but then I could justify doing that for any non-human race. Common tropes could also be options. Unfortunately, this is an extremely open-ended question; take a stroll on AO3, open any fandom and see what kind of stuff people come up with.

If you wanted to do this as a passion project, by all means. As you say, though, I think it would be a lot of work.

Part 4: Miscellanea

4.A: Should we put some version of the project rules and aims on AO3?

If we can write them concisely enough, I think that "About" section you mentioned above would be a good place for it. If not, I suppose we could create a "work" that would essentially be our mission statement and history.

That's all I've got for now. This is obviously a big and ambitious project, so there's no real hurry in putting this together, at least until we decide on our general course of action.

Incidentally, thanks for putting this together, Huey!


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Sorry it took so long to respond. Work's been kind of hell lately. Anyway, here are my thoughts, such as they are.

No worries, late replies are always better than no reply :)

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If you are going to be running it, it makes sense to use whatever you prefer, although I would let at least a couple of us know how to access it in the event you ever need or want to step down.

If I used the mail that's already set up I wouldn't need to do so, right?

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As for the profile pic, I would suggest the M:EM logo that Barinellos designed way back. I found this one, though there is likely an earlier one out there, too: Logo.

Ooo, cool! Yeah, I like it.

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I like the idea of a Pseudo-posted for our "non-canon" stuff, particularly the High School thread and the 50 word flash fic stuff. There's some really good stuff in the "long story short" thread, too.

Yeah, exactly. I'll make a quick list of To-Be-Ported threads if people point out more stuff.

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if the reader would like to see the original, here is a link.

The link to the original thread could be put into every summary, actually?

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Incidentally, does AO3 have profanity filters? Because if we do this, I would really like to put up the two canon Orida stories without asterisks.

No filter of any kind! Orida can swear to her heart's content. I'll ask you to send me the originals when time comes to port her pieces.

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I like the idea of Jakkard, Non-Canon Plane, although my instinct says to put the Non-canon Plane tag first. Not knowing AO3 or how its interface works, I'm not sure if it matters much one way or the other.

It's just a matter of viewing order, so what you read first; hence the need to choose the order of importance of stuff.

About authors: now that I think of it, putting them at the end could also help visibility? Not risking to be lost in the middle and all.

Personally, I would rather just not bother, unless AO3 has some sort of system whereby certain subject matters are supposed to be avoided.

AO3 only shows unrated works when searching for Explicit works - and rightfully so IMHO - thus curbing most of our chances to come up in searches. Putting "Teen and Up" could be a safe bet for anything that has no particular trigger, although a few General Audiences for some Aloise pieces and the like could work in our favor? I know the system, not the average user navigation habits.

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I made a thread a while back called "Arcs and Triumphs" that put together the story orders up to that point.

Oh yeah, that'll be useful.

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As for the summaries, again, I don't know Ao3.

When you search for fics on AO3 you see the summary in a rather prominent position; as such, the summary is a key element in drawing in eyes for works that don't cater to popular ships, characters or tropes - which are common search queries. Putting a punchy description, a short cool passage or both are common solutions. However, picking or writing a summary for 300 works and change sounds like a daunting tasks. I could do it at a latter time, but since searches usually show results in chronological order the first period after the posting is a pretty crucial time for visibility. We could decide to not give a damn, though.

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3.E Miscellaneous tags

-Rather than come up with individual tags for each work, I think there's merit in putting together a list of standardized tags that I can add when relevant. For example, any MtG-specific race would warrant a tag imho (Vedalken, Noggle and so on) but then I could justify doing that for any non-human race. Common tropes could also be options. Unfortunately, this is an extremely open-ended question; take a stroll on AO3, open any fandom and see what kind of stuff people come up with.

If you wanted to do this as a passion project, by all means. As you say, though, I think it would be a lot of work.

It could be, but again - using popular tags would boost the chances of having more readers. It comes to a cost/benefits evaluations, basically.

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4.A: Should we put some version of the project rules and aims on AO3?

If we can write them concisely enough, I think that "About" section you mentioned above would be a good place for it. If not, I suppose we could create a "work" that would essentially be our mission statement and history.

Putting up a not-work with our full aims and stuff sounds like a decent idea.

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Thank you for replying!

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I don't really have the time to respond to the other replies so far but I spent this free morning typing up some responses to the initial questions:

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For the picture, the “official” M:EM logo is a fine choice, though I will admit a certain fondness for the brain avatar we used on the mothership, tho I never knew which card art that was.

Idk how relevant this might be, but I'm not sure I know what art you are talking about.

I don't know where the art came from, but here's a screenshot with it (on the right-hand side):
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I understand why our rules have kept some works out of our own canon, but it’s unfortunate that things like OL’s story of Gideon’s Bible had to be rejected.

...I'm not familiar with that either?

It was my story, not Orcish's. It's "Showdown," Antine's origin story.


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Incidentally, does AO3 have profanity filters? Because if we do this, I would really like to put up the two canon Orida stories without asterisks.

AO3 has negative profanity filters. One thing AO3 keeps getting flack for is that they allow things people consider “squick” and a few countries consider illegal even though AO3 is composed entirely of fictitious words. One thing AO3 sticks to its guns on is a hard stance against censorship of any kind.

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I like the idea of Jakkard, Non-Canon Plane, although my instinct says to put the Non-canon Plane tag first. Not knowing AO3 or how its interface works, I'm not sure if it matters much one way or the other.

It's just a matter of viewing order, so what you read first; hence the need to choose the order of importance of stuff.

About authors: now that I think of it, putting them at the end could also help visibility? Not risking to be lost in the middle and all.

Oh, I was erroneously thinking tags were in alphabetical order, because the hierarchy of tags isn’t as visible as on other sites I visit (mostly image boards). In that case, there are a couple of more elegant suggestions I can provide for the author, such as “Written by X”, “Originally by X” or simply “By X”. As long as we can put it absolutely anywhere, I would personally make it the very first tag.

I’ll still stand by my “Magic: the Gathering, Original Work” suggestion, though, as those get put into the separate fandom tags just under the title of the work and make it both more visible and frees up space in our tag cloud.

AO3 only shows unrated works when searching for Explicit works - and rightfully so IMHO - thus curbing most of our chances to come up in searches. Putting "Teen and Up" could be a safe bet for anything that has no particular trigger, although a few General Audiences for some Aloise pieces and the like could work in our favor? I know the system, not the average user navigation habits.

Oh, okay, I didn’t know that about unrated works – I’m used to sites doing the opposite, whereby things need to be tagged in order to be filtered out (such as, say, when doing innocent searches on DeviantArt and finding porn that was not labeled as mature only). I would prefer things being rated anyway because it’s so much easier to search through, but also I honestly didn’t even think of the “Teen and Up” category because in terms of fanfiction, I’m so used to that being used for either hardboiled “DARKNESS! NO PARENTS!” works or someone’s first foray into pseudo-porn (like Ash and Misty from Pokémon forming a relationship and then having a miscarriage), that I wasn’t even thinking about the typical real-world application of the category. Teen and Up is just PERFECT for our typical levels of fantasy violence, but yes I’d also say a fair percentage of our works could fit into the General category (a lot of poems, for example).

I think my recommendation would be the way I post a lot of my stories, many of which fit into a larger story arc, like the Thorneau Rebellion or the Daneera/Kerik arc. At the top of the story, have some sort of a note regarding which stories are recommended to read first, and if possible a link to them. I can certainly provide that for my arcs, and I think the Orcish wrote up some for the Jackie and the Beryl arcs, as well. I made a thread a while back called "Arcs and Triumphs" that put together the story orders up to that point. As for the summaries, again, I don't know Ao3.

Just going to second Raven on this that we already have many recommended and required reading disclaimers on many of our stories which can easily slide into the top notes, and we’ve had more than one thread discussing the arcs and interconnectivity of our Archived works. At one point many years ago I made an “M:EM map” that people took as a challenge and wrote more interconnectivity into our Archive.

I also know that AO3 lets you mark works as “Part X in Series Y” kind of thing, which would make larger arcs even easier to weld together.

That's all I've got for now. This is obviously a big and ambitious project, so there's no real hurry in putting this together, at least until we decide on our general course of action.

Yeah, I’m glad we’re in the preliminary planning phases at the moment due to this being such a big undertaking.

When you search for fics on AO3 you see the summary in a rather prominent position; as such, the summary is a key element in drawing in eyes for works that don't cater to popular ships, characters or tropes - which are common search queries. Putting a punchy description, a short cool passage or both are common solutions. However, picking or writing a summary for 300 works and change sounds like a daunting tasks. I could do it at a latter time, but since searches usually show results in chronological order the first period after the posting is a pretty crucial time for visibility. We could decide to not give a damn, though.

This is one reason why I’m glad we’re in the early stages, because I, personally, would like a “one and done” approach, where we can upload each work with the half-dozen tags needed and a summary and notes all at once, so as to do minimal editing and backtracking. Luckily some of our most prolific authors are still around to give short summaries of their works, plus the memories we also share about a work to punch out a good chunk of summaries. That may be something that we’ll need another thread for, once we have an account set up and ready to go.

I see no reason why summaries need to be more than a few sentences long, though. If I were to come up with an example, then for Love and Theft, I would put something like:

“In a small prospecting town, a certain red-eyed bandit comes to steal something, and finds more than she expected. Jackie DeCoeur and Trotter make their debut amid a heist that ends up being for more than just gold.”

If we want to get fancier, we can include references to the Wild West style of plane/story, and/or include the M:EM disclaimer in the summary.

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I don’t recall how many works I had edited for the Archivist’s Google Drive to that effect, but that’s an option as well.


Owo, what's that?

Some amount of the Archive – and I think it was a decision I had made for uploading works during a certain year or so, rather than going through our backlog – I had made a pass through to remove all HTML tags to form a human-readable version on google docs. It may have coincided with Raven’s profanity story that we couldn’t post directly to NGA. Now that I know AO3 uses most of the same HTML tags, though, it shouldn’t be needed.

We can't stop anyone from using the Magic: Expanded Multiverse tag, which is maybe what you mean by "organically".

Yeah, I meant like to put the M:EM in a petri dish and let things grow off of it, maybe getting rid of our voting process altogether and just building where we will. Just the same as we can’t stop others from using our tags, they can’t stop us from building off of their works – not that I’m arguing we just go and steal others’ ideas for our own, but we don’t have to be quite so strict with who gets counted as “in” in a way, especially if we’re going to be using a secondary account for non-canon works. We could even just use one Magic: Expanded Multiverse tag and consider the primary Archivist account our “publisher/IP holder” for canon purposes.

There are a few choices we have to make regarding the works marked private, though that’s no bigger an issue than the official WOTC works we’ve also been hosting as archival work such as the Ask Brady Archive or the Planeswalker’s Guide to Jamuraa.

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Character(s) (Dossiers excluded for instance, but they would need their own tag)


Why would you exclude them?

Sorry, I meant that a character tag would not be needed on a world dossier – that was my mistake thinking about “dossier” the same as “worldbuilding document”.

...I'm not familiar with that either?

It was my story, not Orcish's. It's "Showdown," Antine's origin story.

Aw, ****, I’m sorry. My only defense is that it’s been… wow, almost 9 years now. I only remember the Gideon thing being the sticking point.


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...I'm not familiar with that either?

It was my story, not Orcish's. It's "Showdown," Antine's origin story.

Aw, ****, I’m sorry. My only defense is that it’s been… wow, almost 9 years now. I only remember the Gideon thing being the sticking point.

No worries. As you said, it's been a LONG time, and anyway, I'm naturally going to remember my own stories more than others would, what with spending the most time with them and writing them and all. The story itself is a reskin of the song "Rocky Raccoon" by the Beatles, which of course is something I've been known to do. Of course, Orcish was known to do that same thing from time to time.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:16 pm 
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I would imagine so, especially if we do have the "pseuds." I remember really liking your story about the angel from a while back.

I have a general rule for myself that I don't read or comment about anything that ties in with canon characters or planes, so I haven't read some of your more recent stuff. But obviously, it depends on what we do with "M:EM canon" and "non-M:EM canon" stuff. I suspect we'll start with canon stuff, but I have honestly no idea.


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Can some of my fics make it through?

If you're asking about your non-Archived works making it to the non-Archivist pseud(s?) I may set up, you can certainly make a case for them as per other threads; I/we have currently no criteria for that past including content-rich communal threads like prompts and so on, so it's free game; I don't remember you being nothing but a positive presence in the forum and you posted some good stuff over the years, so that's cool by me.

(mind you, that undertaking will probably start after the entire Archive is ported)

If you're asking about your non-Archived works being posted through the "official" Archivist pseud, I'll need a solid case for approving the (indirect?) bypass of the M:EM rules regarding the Archive. Especially since, as it has been said, the works posted through our AO3 accounts will be visible once anyone looks into the Magic: Expanded Multiverse tag.

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