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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:38 pm 
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Bonsoir!

I come before you good people today with a story, probably the greatest...

Ah, it's not for you. It's more of a Shelbyville story...

:D

Anyway, once more, we journey into the seedy underbelly of the plane of Thorneau and see what's crawling there. But first, I would like to say that if anyone has not yet read OrcishLibrarian's Thorneau story, The Rule of Law, I recommend that you go read that one first, as it is excellent.

While on the subject of our friendly neighborhood bibliophile, I would like to extend my thanks to him for reading over this story, giving me a few pointers, and, let's say, helping me with a character. Much appreciated, Orcish!

Without further adieu... (hehe)

A Place at the Table


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:11 pm 
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Very nice work. It's the kind of foundation-laying writing that usually passes unnoticed, but I very much appreciate how you're stirring up the tension on Thorneau and setting the table for the payoff. All that's left, then, is for the dinner to begin.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:29 am 
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Aaaah, I love it when you two start putting puzzle pieces together. I have to confess, I can't remember if the stuff with Raiker Venn is already established in another story, but if it is, I think this story reads very well even without that background knowledge, and if it isn't, well, color me intrigued! I like that we don't really have all the information on this setting (well, I mean, if it's been a while since we've read the style guide >_>) from the story itself but are sort of thrown into the action. It's thrilling stuff.

Henri really is kind of a wuss isn't he? :/ I dunno it's hard to sympathize with his moralizing when the enemy is someone who literally hangs people for fun using her noose sleeves. More insidious though I think is the authority of the Baroness herself. Madame du Collet is the weapon of oppression, but she's a weapon ultimately wielded by the Baroness and the others of her class, and I think you express effectively here how the peasantry are aware of that power and the fact that the Baroness may not be strangling people herself, but she's ultimately got absolute power over life and death for the servants.

I'd agree with CKY that this is masterful foundation laying work. I'm excited to see where this goes and whether this revolution will go a little better than other uh... recent events of note. (And actually, I would be curious to see what a certain magician has to say about the parallels between the two planes.)


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Very nice work. It's the kind of foundation-laying writing that usually passes unnoticed, but I very much appreciate how you're stirring up the tension on Thorneau and setting the table for the payoff. All that's left, then, is for the dinner to begin.

Thanks, CKY! I'm glad you enjoyed this one. I had a lot of fun writing it and playing around with the metaphor. I'm also happy with the parallel between the two scenes as a way to build momentum for the coming conflict, whatever that might be!

Thanks for reading!

Aaaah, I love it when you two start putting puzzle pieces together. I have to confess, I can't remember if the stuff with Raiker Venn is already established in another story, but if it is, I think this story reads very well even without that background knowledge, and if it isn't, well, color me intrigued! I like that we don't really have all the information on this setting (well, I mean, if it's been a while since we've read the style guide >_>) from the story itself but are sort of thrown into the action. It's thrilling stuff.

The stuff with Raiker was introduced in Unmasking at Midnight, which was the introduction story for Aurélie, Henri le Douce, and the Baroness, as well as this conflict as a whole. Admittedly, this story sort of spoils that one a bit, but I'm glad to hear this one can work without the prior knowledge. That's one of those things that is difficult to know, just because of the environment we're working in here. So, thanks!

Henri really is kind of a wuss isn't he? :/ I dunno it's hard to sympathize with his moralizing when the enemy is someone who literally hangs people for fun using her noose sleeves. More insidious though I think is the authority of the Baroness herself. Madame du Collet is the weapon of oppression, but she's a weapon ultimately wielded by the Baroness and the others of her class, and I think you express effectively here how the peasantry are aware of that power and the fact that the Baroness may not be strangling people herself, but she's ultimately got absolute power over life and death for the servants.

Yeah, honestly, nobody is innocent in this situation. Henri is, to quote Orcish, a major tool. Aurélie comes closest to being the "hero" here, but her methods are not necessarily that much better than anyone else's. She does truly believe in her convictions, sure, but then again, so does Madame du Collet, so that alone can't make Aurélie the "good guy." I think this is certainly a situation where you're looking for the least of four or five evils.

I'd agree with CKY that this is masterful foundation laying work. I'm excited to see where this goes and whether this revolution will go a little better than other uh... recent events of note. (And actually, I would be curious to see what a certain magician has to say about the parallels between the two planes.)

I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about. Where else might we have seen a scarred woman at the center of a revolution by the common people against the established nobility...

Hmm...

Anyway, yes, it would be VERY interesting to see Nasperge's reaction to all of this, but I haven't decided yet if that's a good idea. One thing I think this story has going for it is that (Raiker's fringe involvement notwithstanding) this is very much a planar native struggle. I think it would be fascinating to have 'walkers slowly become involve, or become involved on the periphery, but so few stories these days from the canon and even with us, focus on non-walkers. It's one of the things I think is so fascinating about Jackie and her Jakkard stories, and it's something I'd like to see more of, these planar Legends carrying their own stories.

That being said, I'm sure that if and when I pick this story back up, we'll probably see some familiar faces. Whether they're the ones your expecting or not, that I can't say!

Thanks a ton for reading and commenting, Keeper! I always love hearing your thoughts and reactions to my stuff!


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Well now I have to go read Unmasking at Midnight, since I must have missed that completely somewhere along the way!

One thing I'll say for my lengthy absences... I always know when I come back I'll have a lot of good reading material :D


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Well, the excellent Mr. Raven already knows my feelings about this piece (spoiler alert: I think it's great!), because he's already heard that from me.

But, hey, now everyone else can hear it from me, too! I think this story's great! :) So, thanks again for sharing it with us, Raven!

To go into a little more detail about the parts which I think are excellent, I'm obviously a big fan of the parallel narrative between Henri's meeting with Aurélie, and the Baroness's meeting with Perrine. In both cases, you can get a glimpse of the mobilization of the two sides which are about to face off in this conflict, and, by the end, I think the tension is pretty palpable. Bad things are going to happen when these two forces collide. Bad things. And, of course, the table metaphor is a great unifying device.

On the side of the rebels, I was reminded that (as Raven very aptly quoted be as saying) Henri is a major tool. I have a hard time sympathizing with someone whose singular ambition in life is to become the Thorneau equivalent of Internet Famous, and who, once he finds himself in a jam, wants nothing quite so much as to weasel his way out of it, and leave everyone else to fight for themselves. I would say that Henri lacks the courage of his convictions, except that I'm not sure he has any convictions to begin with.

Yet, with all that being said, I was amazed to find myself nodding my head in agreement when Henri accuses Aurélie of appearing to very much want the war that she claims to be so saddened by. I think Aurélie is being genuine when she claims to abhor the violence that she knows is about to happen, but I also think that there's a distinct whiff of methinks-thou-doth-protest-too-much to her abdication of responsibility for the events she has helped to set into motion. As Henri points out, you can't order the omelet, and then claim that you never wanted anyone to break an egg.

Meanwhile, at the other dinner table, our dear Perrine has no such reservations about the war that she's eager to wage, and it doesn't take too much convincing for the Baroness to give her the carte blanche that she so desperately desires. I really like the interaction between the Baroness and her servant, here. Again, the tension is palpable, and it sets the table for the arrival on the scene of Madame du Collet; given Perrine's, shall we say, opportunistic attitude towards disciplining her own domestic staff, I think the foreshadowing here it pretty creepy. (It is not hard for me to imagine that poor servant being sent to deliver an after-dinner drink to the good Madame, for example. And it is not too hard for me to imagine that this poor girl won't be serving breakfast the next morning. Perrine would probably consider that the least she could do to repay the Baroness's hospitality...) And I love how Raven wrote the interaction between Perrine and the Baroness. I love how Perrine walks this fine, sycophantic line in the Baroness's presence, but she still can't resist the opportunity to preen when it presents itself. I love how she's always grouping herself into the first-party plural along with the Baroness -- "people like us." You can sense this sort of desperation to please, to prove that she belongs, and it makes sense, given that Perrine is on a much lower rung of the aristocracy. It also casts a sort of terrible, strategic rationality onto Perrine's brutal othering of the peasant class. The more that the good Vicomtesse can divide the world into peasants versus nobles, into us versus them, the more she solidifies her own status on the right side of that fence.

Anyway, great stuff. And I'm super excited to see where things might go from here, now that everyone is seated, and holding their knives. :)


Aaaah, I love it when you two start putting puzzle pieces together.

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