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Greetings, beautiful mutants!

If you detect a whiff of brimstone in the air tonight, then that's because I have a new Tryst story to share with you all. This one is titled "The Hand That Feeds," and I very much hope that you will enjoy it!

Chronologically, this piece takes place before the previous Tryst story, "The Fine Print." So, if you haven't yet read that piece, then I would recommend doing so prior to reading this one.

Finally, I would be remiss if I didn't extend a sincere word of thanks to the good Barinellos, who has been my guide to all things Phostus, and who provided many great comments and insights on the various drafts of this story. Thank you, good sir!

With that being said, I will vanish back into the shadows, and leave the devilkin to fill in the details.

As ever, any suggestions, comments, or criticisms you may have are most welcome. And, as ever, I want to thank you for reading, and for sharing your thoughts.


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The Hand That Feeds

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Oh, well, this is just devilishly good timing! :evil:

Okay, I admit, that one was too easy...

Anyway, I was just thinking today that it's been a while since I've read something Orcish wrote, and it was about time to do that again. Okay, well, I wasn't really thinking that...also, I read something Orcish wrote yesterday...but hey! Any day you read something that Orcish wrote is a good day, so two good days in a row, it is!

I'll spoiler-block this thing up for the benefit of those who read comments first but don't click on plus signs, but I will address briefly how great this is: It is.

There we go.

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Thanks so much for posting, Orcish! That was really a great tail! (See what I did there? ;) )


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I'll echo Raven's sentiments. This is a really great piece. You sure have a knack for writing likable female antiheroes, don't you?

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Thanks so much for reading and for commenting, Raven and CKY! And thank you both for the very kind words!


You sure have a knack for writing likable female antiheroes, don't you?

Well, again, thanks!

Although, it's funny -- I read this, and then I immediately started wondering how my various characters would react to being labeled "antiheroes."

In particular, I think that Jackie would have a good laugh about being awarded that title. "I never tried to be a hero, anti- or otherwise," she'd say. "At the end of the day, you can dress it up however you like, but I'm a bandit. Whether that makes me an angel or a devil in your book? Well, I think that says as much about you as it does about me."

And then I imagine her smiling her transgressive smile.

Anyway, thanks for sharing that comment -- I had fun thinking about it.


Oh, well, this is just devilishly good timing! :evil:

Okay, I admit, that one was too easy...

Never apologize for making the obvious pun. :)


Anyway, I was just thinking today that it's been a while since I've read something Orcish wrote, and it was about time to do that again. Okay, well, I wasn't really thinking that...also, I read something Orcish wrote yesterday...but hey! Any day you read something that Orcish wrote is a good day, so two good days in a row, it is!

Well, again, thank you for the very kind sentiments!


Okay, so my favorite thing about the story was the stuff with Tryst and Westrick. That was some good character work. I absolutely loved it when Tryst was going nuts on him about "fair." Gotta love it when the devilkin has the moral high ground. But also, I think that scene reveals A LOT about the motivations of our friendly neighborhood Demon-negotiator...with-er. :paranoid:

I totally heard the last part of that in a Lionel Hutz voice. :)

Anyway, I'm glad that you liked this part. I have to give a hat tip to Barinellos, here. I wrote the first and last sections of this story first, and then it took me a long time to come up with a middle scene that I felt worked as a bridge. I knew that I wanted to offer a glimpse of what Tryst can be like when the mask slips a little bit, when the devilish urges that she fights so hard to repress manage to break through her rules for self-control. But I couldn't quite think of the right context to showcase that particular aspect of her character.

Then Barinellos had the idea of sending her to the city of oath-breakers, and I was off to the races!

And, yeah, I think that "fair" turns out to be something of a trigger word for Tryst, as you pointed out. I think that Tryst would tell you that the multiverse is a profoundly cruel and profoundly unfair place, and that her own existence is as near as you can get to proof of this fact. From her perspective, the deals that she helps people to broker are just about the closest thing to fair that exists in the Eternities. You damn yourself, sure, but Tryst is going to make sure that you get what you want in return. That's her job, and she takes it seriously. You will not get cheated. You will not get tricked. She will make sure that you know what you're signing.

She really does care about professionalism -- that's not an act, I don't think.

So, if you try to play the "that's not fair!" card with her after the fact, I think you are very liable to find said card shoved forcefully back down your own throat. Tryst does not want to hear about how life has been unfair to you.


The relationship between Adys and Tryst is really interesting, too. I feel like there's a lot going on here that we don't know about yet. I don't really have a clear sense of exactly what Adys gets out of this whole deal. I mean, I know he hints at what he gets from the deal at the end of "The Fine Print," but it seems to me that he could just kill her if he wanted to, unless of course that was part of the deal. Still, they have an odd relationship.

There is definitely a very strange dynamic at play, here. Tryst and Adys are bound together by a deal, and I think this is a state of affairs which they have both have some serious buyer's remorse about. But neither of them has yet decided to try to forcefully change the status quo. Instead, they've settled into this bizarre sort of holding pattern which is defined by low-level hostility, but in which they also do favors for each other -- although neither would ever want to explicitly ask the other for anything. For reasons which are not fully clear, Adys seems to have taken a continued interest in Tryst's daughter -- which Tryst neither anticipated nor wants. But, at the same time, she isn't above taking advantage of the tacit protection this provides for her child. On the other side of the coin, Adys doesn't seem to have any illusions about the fact that Tryst is trying to subvert their arrangement, and to make off with something of his. But she can also be fantastically useful to him, and so he's content to live with this uneasy détente for the time being.

In a way, they're almost like an unhappy couple. Each knows the right buttons to push to wound the other, but the specter of mutually-assured destruction has kept either from going nuclear... to this point, anyway.


I both did and didn't see the ending coming. I figured the hound would have to go the way of Old Yeller, but I did figure it would be Tryst who would have to do it, so well played there. That was a really potent moment.

I'm glad you thought this scene worked. What happens here is, almost literally, Tryst's worst nightmare. Earlier in the story, we've seen the sort of dark impulses which lurk inside Tryst, and which she views as the inescapable consequence of her own devilish nature. So, when she decided that she wanted to be a mother, she literally sold her soul to try to prevent her own daughter from inheriting what she believes to be her own curse.

And, at least at first, it seems to have worked. Tryst understood that her child could never be one-hundred-percent human, but she seems to be good and innocent and pure -- or what passes for good and innocent and pure inside Tryst's mind, anyway.

And then this happens, and it scares Tryst like you would not believe. It's her nightmare come to life.

Tryst copes by blaming Phostus, and by telling herself that things will be alright if only she can somehow get her child off this plane.

I'm not sure how much she really believes that. But she doesn't have a choice, because the alternative is unthinkable...


Also, (and my apologies in advance for reducing a very powerful, emotional moment to a trite joke, but hey, it's what I do) it's sort of funny to see Tryst is such a strict disciplinarian, giving her daughter such a long time out just for not feeding her puppy.

<Dr. Krieger voice> Zing! </Dr. Krieger voice>


Out of curiosity, because I may have missed it, does Tryst's daughter have a name yet? I haven't spotted one, so I'm guessing not yet? It doesn't matter much, I'm just curious.

She does have a name, but you are correct that we have not yet heard it.

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 1:53 am 
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Also, (and my apologies in advance for reducing a very powerful, emotional moment to a trite joke, but hey, it's what I do) it's sort of funny to see Tryst is such a strict disciplinarian, giving her daughter such a long time out just for not feeding her puppy.

<Dr. Krieger voice> Zing! </Dr. Krieger voice>
Awww... Dogley.

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I am so happy that I've finally had a chance to get to know Tryst. What an incredible character you've got here, with two incredible stories as well. And an incredible setting--I liked Phostus already, but seeing it captured in story form really brings the plane to life... or at least a dark mockery thereof.

I like these stories because I feel like I'm missing a lot of information--motivations, histories, the complex background of the plane itself (which is missing mostly because it's been a while since I read the style guide, in fairness) but it's all so artfully constructed that these absences work for the story rather than against it. It's a good example of giving the audience the information we need without giving any more than that.

This story was interesting to me because at first I thought it didn't work, and then suddenly it really, really did. I couldn't see the connection between the bridge and the banks as it were right up until the moment when the daughter kills the hound, and then all the parallels snapped into place. It's great because it mirrors the realization Tryst has about her daughter and the way Phostus is shaping her into a similar person to Tryst: I felt the shock of the correspondence at the same time as Tryst. And of course the title ties everything together in a very clever way as well. It's a cool effect.

Anyway, yeah, excellent stories :D I'm excited to see more of Tryst.


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Thanks so much for reading, Keeper, and for the very kind comments! I'm really glad that you enjoyed both stories!


I am so happy that I've finally had a chance to get to know Tryst. What an incredible character you've got here, with two incredible stories as well. And an incredible setting--I liked Phostus already, but seeing it captured in story form really brings the plane to life... or at least a dark mockery thereof.

Again, thank you for the very kind words. Tryst just sort of snuck up on me when I was initially reading about Phostus, and I'm really glad that she did. Also, for both stories, Barinellos was very helpful in making sure that I got the details and atmosphere for Phostus correct, and the combination of this particular character and this particular plane has been very rewarding.

Tryst is such a good fit for Phostus -- this is exactly the sort of world where she's positioned to thrive.

And, of course, that's exactly why she hates the place so much, and why she's so desperate to leave. :(


I like these stories because I feel like I'm missing a lot of information--motivations, histories, the complex background of the plane itself (which is missing mostly because it's been a while since I read the style guide, in fairness) but it's all so artfully constructed that these absences work for the story rather than against it. It's a good example of giving the audience the information we need without giving any more than that.

Yeah, there's this sort of strange dichotomy which runs through the way that Tryst deals with the world. When she's acting in her professional capacity, she is actually very transparent, very forthright. She believes in getting everything in writing, and she wants everyone she deals with to understand exactly what they are agreeing to. I don't think that's an act. I think that, when she talks about professionalism and ethics, she takes those concepts seriously.

But, the moment she leaves the professional sphere and enters the personal sphere, the flow of information shuts off. Suddenly she becomes very cagey, very wary. She knows that knowledge is a weapon which can be used against her, and she weaves layer after layer of protective ambiguities and evasions around herself and her daughter. When she's speaking with Adys, for example, what they don't say to each other always seems to loom just as large as what they do say. In this story, it's sort of a genuinely startling moment for me, when Adys says something to the effect of, is it such a surprise that I might be interested in your daughter's well-being? And Tryst just says, yes, it is. For one moment, she stops dancing around the real subject of their argument, and she says exactly what she's thinking -- and those words just sort of hang there, for a moment, because I get the sense that the two of them are rarely so frank or direct with each other.

So, to your point, there is obviously a lot going on here that we don't know about. I'm glad that, in this case, that feels like a feature rather than a bug.


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This story was interesting to me because at first I thought it didn't work, and then suddenly it really, really did. I couldn't see the connection between the bridge and the banks as it were right up until the moment when the daughter kills the hound, and then all the parallels snapped into place. It's great because it mirrors the realization Tryst has about her daughter and the way Phostus is shaping her into a similar person to Tryst: I felt the shock of the correspondence at the same time as Tryst. And of course the title ties everything together in a very clever way as well. It's a cool effect.

I'm really glad that you felt like this worked. And, yeah, I was worried that people might feel like the middle episode was a little disconnected from the bookends. (Especially since I wrote the middle part several months after writing the first and last scenes, so, even though I spent a lot of time trying to make sure that the parts fit together as well as I could make them, I was nervous that they might come across as disjointed.) So, if you felt like there was a real moment of revelation at the end, when Tryst suddenly sees that terrifying reflection of herself in her daughter, and the story pieces sort of fall into place, then I'm really happy that things came together in the way that they did.


Anyway, yeah, excellent stories :D I'm excited to see more of Tryst.

Thanks again, Keeper! I'm excited about it, too!

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Again, thank you for the very kind words. Tryst just sort of snuck up on me when I was initially reading about Phostus, and I'm really glad that she did. Also, for both stories, Barinellos was very helpful in making sure that I got the details and atmosphere for Phostus correct, and the combination of this particular character and this particular plane has been very rewarding.
The world is one that I'm pretty proud of because I worked very hard to get that atmosphere primed for people to step into. I wanted that resonance, that sense of what Phostus is to strike chords with people's expectations, but to have the echoes sound strangely different to them. It's a hell world, but it's not just one kind of hell. In some ways, it's really a hell of people's own making, and I wanted that to be reflected in the various natures of both the demon lords and the cities they built.

Which is actually something that just struck me, because outside the city walls, it's a wasteland and hellish enough to be exactly what people expect... save lakes of fire. Inside the cities though, there's a semblance of normalcy, but it's all twisted up in vices and each city is very much a different breed of sin that people go to great lengths to indulge. There's a sort of rawness to the cities that I hadn't realized I built into them. The bedrock of civilization isn't law, but indulgence, even if that indulgence is in a sense of security. I suppose you can chalk that up to Sloth if you wanted.

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I think that definitely comes across--it feels hellish but definitely in this sense of people collectively making very poor, very selfish judgments that compound until you get a city sort of cobbled together on top of itself like we see in this story, raining constantly and ruled by demons and fear.


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I think that definitely comes across--it feels hellish but definitely in this sense of people collectively making very poor, very selfish judgments that compound until you get a city sort of cobbled together on top of itself like we see in this story, raining constantly and ruled by demons and fear.

Not gonna lie, the weather was a huge part of what made Nebhos tick. But I'd be eager to expose other cities in more detail as well. I'd really like to let Phostus off the leash and see what happened. I feel like there are so many nooks and hooks that writers could into it and play with that there's some real chance for diversity in everything. So far we've really only seen the humans, for example, but at least we've gotten a peek at some of the cities. Shame we didn't have more of an opportunity to explore Artrix, but Orcish did a wonderful job with Nebhos all the same.

Hell, I have a snippet from another story featuring Lilim that has been sitting around forever, but I just can't do much with it. There again, I can't really do much of anything with much of anything other than editing right now. And it's driving me up a wall.

But enough digression, I don't really want to stray too far from Orcish's story here.

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I feel like Tryst is great for this plane because she has the potential to open things up to other Planeswalkers--she's a tangible connection off-world, but she also has a major reason to hang close to the plane so those who'd deal with her most likely have to come here.

That's got a lot of potential I think.


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I feel like Tryst is great for this plane because she has the potential to open things up to other Planeswalkers--she's a tangible connection off-world, but she also has a major reason to hang close to the plane so those who'd deal with her most likely have to come here.

That's got a lot of potential I think.

For the record, I have a story in my pocket for how Tryst arrived on Phostus in the first place, but just haven't had the capacity to write it.

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I feel like Tryst is great for this plane because she has the potential to open things up to other Planeswalkers--she's a tangible connection off-world, but she also has a major reason to hang close to the plane so those who'd deal with her most likely have to come here.

That's got a lot of potential I think.

On this note, I just want to mention that Tryst's present and future are very public, in the M:EM availability sense.

I have a lot of ideas about her past which are rattling around inside the melon which passes for my head, and, as the good Barin mentioned, he has some notions as well.

But, going forward from where I left Tryst at the end of "The Fine Print," I don't currently have anything bouncing around inside the hopper. So, if anyone out there has thoughts along the lines which Keeper mentioned -- or any other ideas, for that matter -- I'd be super excited to hear about them.

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See, here's another prime example of something I read, and then went "That was cool."

And never said anything.

So, this was cool! And sad.

I mean, my favorite character is Adys but I have a fondness for enormous demon lords. He's the sort of imperious, Black overlord that just... Ugh. So cool to me. I love demons. Looooove demons. Adys in particular is especially calm and devious. Too often I find demons to be locus' for rage, pride, or greed. It's nice to see a calculating side of Black. Show off why it's close to Blue on the wheel.

Also, my favorite part? Adys' implied stake in "his" daughter's wellbeing. Humanzing demons (for all the wrong reasons) is something I love to see, because, as before, they're too often just POWER, UNLIMITED POWER and I prefer personality. Well done.

Hmm... as for Tryst's problem, I'm interested to see how she solves it but that's really all I can say on the matter. Her daughter murdering the dog was unexpected, as was already noted. I mostly came here to talk about Adys anyway.

Thanks for posting, OL!

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@ Ruwin -- Thanks so much for reading, Ruwin, and for commenting as well! I'm always really grateful to hear your thoughts, and I'm super glad that you enjoyed the story!


I mean, my favorite character is Adys but I have a fondness for enormous demon lords. He's the sort of imperious, Black overlord that just... Ugh. So cool to me. I love demons. Looooove demons. Adys in particular is especially calm and devious. Too often I find demons to be locus' for rage, pride, or greed. It's nice to see a calculating side of Black. Show off why it's close to Blue on the wheel.

Also, my favorite part? Adys' implied stake in "his" daughter's wellbeing. Humanzing demons (for all the wrong reasons) is something I love to see, because, as before, they're too often just POWER, UNLIMITED POWER and I prefer personality. Well done.

I'm glad that you liked Adys in this piece.

Obviously, most of the credit here has to flow back to Barinellos, since he created the character. But I had a lot of fun writing Adys in this story.

Of all the demon kings on Phostus who Tryst could have done her deal with, I think she gravitated to Adys for basically the reasons you called out. He's calm, and he's calculating, and he oozes this sort of "it's just business" sensibility. And I think that's what Tryst was looking for -- she needed a demon who had A Lot of mojo, but she also wanted one with whom she thought she could execute a purely transactional exchange -- someone who was as focused on the bottom-line as she herself was.

Which is why I think that -- even as she takes advantage of Adys in her own way -- she is deeply disturbed by the fact that Adys appears to have a continuing interest not just in her (which, after all, makes sense, because he has a claim on her soul), but in her child, too.

That was not part of the plan.

Granted, nothing about staying on Phostus was part of the plan. But having Adys involved in any way with her daughter was *especially* not part of the plan.

So, yeah, we don't know what his reasons for that interest are, but the mind does tend to wonder, and the implications can range from fairly benign to absolutely terrifying. And, if you're sort of left to ponder that question as a result of how Adys behaves in this story, then I'm really pretty happy with how that worked out.


I mostly came here to talk about Adys anyway.

I can just imagine him nodding his head and saying, "As it should be."


Thanks for posting, OL!

Thank you for reading and commenting!

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I mean, my favorite character is Adys but I have a fondness for enormous demon lords. He's the sort of imperious, Black overlord that just... Ugh. So cool to me. I love demons. Looooove demons. Adys in particular is especially calm and devious. Too often I find demons to be locus' for rage, pride, or greed. It's nice to see a calculating side of Black. Show off why it's close to Blue on the wheel.

Also, my favorite part? Adys' implied stake in "his" daughter's wellbeing. Humanzing demons (for all the wrong reasons) is something I love to see, because, as before, they're too often just POWER, UNLIMITED POWER and I prefer personality. Well done.

That was one of the best things about working with the entire balance of the two courts on Phostus. There are certainly members of those courts who subscribe to the ideal of POWER, but the most fascinating aspects of even dealing with them is to tap into the motivations behind their drives. The two Kings of the Courts have their own reasons for accumulating what they have, but it isn't, interestingly, for its own sake. All the Dukes have their own personality, and I would hope that they end up being a very twisted mirror of humanity's desires since, in a very real way, the cities they rule are sculpted less by demon hands and more by the beings they cater to.

Suffice to say that I hope the ringing endorsement you gave could perhaps maybe convince our dear Orcish friend to continue exploring the potential clientele present on Phostus.

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