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 Post subject: Re: M:EM Origins
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:10 pm 
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I guess I have a couple stories that could fit this theme. "Small Magic" is kind of Beryl's origin story, although it's "A Bet on Kindness" where she becomes a 'walker.

"The Wind and the Waves" ticks both boxes for Gale. (Plus, I just really like that story. It has grown on me. Like fungus!)

We haven't seen Tryst's origin story... yet... :plot:

If we're including planar natives, then "Foxtrot" could work for Jackie and Trotter.

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Yeesh, I have a lot of characters.

It's just part of being in the club. Believe me... I have something like 15... and 5 I've posted but haven't bothered to let be voted.
Then again, Barinellos wrote a story from the perspective of a sightless, earless ooze planeswalker so I'm not sure that's really an excuse.

Oh yeah... I kind of glazed over "I" didn't I?

If I didn't already have enough on my plate, I think Rishima would make for a fascinating origin story.
Hrm... who else do I have that would benefit from the telling?

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Honestly I can't blame the cathar who killed Yissva, even though it was tragic and totally undeserved. Yissva was literally a creature from another world, and that cathar had NO reason to guess that he was anything other than a devil.

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Honestly I can't blame the cathar who killed Yissva, even though it was tragic and totally undeserved. Yissva was literally a creature from another world, and that cathar had NO reason to guess that he was anything other than a devil.

Yeah, I don't think you can blame the cathar so much as the world/culture that produced him.


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Honestly I can't blame the cathar who killed Yissva, even though it was tragic and totally undeserved. Yissva was literally a creature from another world, and that cathar had NO reason to guess that he was anything other than a devil.

Yeah, I don't think you can blame the cathar so much as the world/culture that produced him.

In fairness, when it comes down to it, there is no compassion for the thing trying to eat your face except in the broadest terms of sympathy.
But you are now all realizing what a shame it is that Innistrad didn't have viashino descended from these dragons.

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......ok I need to figure out a way to make this happen now clearly......

Aaah maybe someone summoned a bunch of Innistrad dragons to another plane at some point? Hmmmm...


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I love this idea. It sounds like a great jumping off point for people interested in the M:EM.

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That's a good point: we've talked for months now about getting a good starting point for the archives and maybe this is a good way of doing that.

Maybe we should think in those terms: what origin stories lead well into other stories that we could say "this character's story continues in x y z stories, their character pages is [wikilink]"


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That's a good point: we've talked for months now about getting a good starting point for the archives and maybe this is a good way of doing that.

Maybe we should think in those terms: what origin stories lead well into other stories that we could say "this character's story continues in x y z stories, their character pages is [wikilink]"

Oh, I like this idea.

I like this idea *a lot.*

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 Post subject: Re: M:EM Origins
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That's a good point: we've talked for months now about getting a good starting point for the archives and maybe this is a good way of doing that.

Maybe we should think in those terms: what origin stories lead well into other stories that we could say "this character's story continues in x y z stories, their character pages is [wikilink]"

Loss does present a small snafu in being reliant on being familiar with who Rishima is for that final scene.

Gifts definitely stands as a lead in, though it, strictly speaking, does a better job at grappling with the character than her actual introduction piece.

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I'm resurrecting this to the top, because I'd like to synch with ORI's life cycle, if not its release :)

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This is relevant to our current discussion! So I'm bumping it!


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 Post subject: Re: M:EM Origins
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Barinellos wrote:
Well, we have Alessa directly telling her origin in "Gifts" so... I mean, feel free to toss it in there.
Similarly, the Second portion of "Legacies" has Raef's, but that would be problematic.
Loss does a job of Zhiran showing his origin to Bartholt.


For my characters, we have: Advent of a Planeswalker (Mari), The Planeswalker's Daughter (Ellia), Before The Dawn/The World At Dawn (Larasa and Morgan, take your pick of story), Homecoming or Corrosion for Illarion, Night Voices (Amah), Morgan's Notes: Quiet Lia (Lia Xin)... Yeesh, I have a lot of characters.


Hmm... I think the Eightfold Lotus might cover both Kimberley and Jinsen.

I guess I have a couple stories that could fit this theme. "Small Magic" is kind of Beryl's origin story, although it's "A Bet on Kindness" where she becomes a 'walker.

"The Wind and the Waves" ticks both boxes for Gale.

If we're including planar natives, then "Foxtrot" could work for Jackie and Trotter.


Suggested Stories Therefore

1) Gifts (Alessa)
2) Legacies (Raef)
3) Loss (Zhiran)
4) Advent of a Planeswalker (Mari)
5) Before The Dawn/The World at Dawn (Larasa and Morgan)
6) Homecoming (Illarion)
7) Night Voices (Amah)
8) Morgan's Notes: Quiet Lia (Lia Xin)
9) The Planeswalker's Daughter (The Endbringer)
10) The Eightfold Lotus (Kimberly and Jinsen)
11) Small Magic/A Bet On Kindness (Beryl)
12) The Wind and the Waves (Gale)
13) Foxtrot (Jackie and Trotter)

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 Post subject: Re: M:EM Origins
PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:12 am 
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Kirsh's ascension is related in Dominian Nightmares but I dunno if we want to bring that back anytime soon, or ever really >_>

The Jaded Cat gives us Jade's origin story

Oh and we just recently got Sister Verity and Leon's origin story

Hmmm...

1) Gifts (Alessa)---------------------------------------------------------RU
2) Legacies (Raef)-------------------------------------------------------W
3) Loss (Zhiran)---------------------------------------------------------...5 color?
4) Advent of a Planeswalker (Mari)-------------------------------------W
5) Before The Dawn/The World at Dawn (Larasa and Morgan)-------RG and UW (right?)
6) Homecoming (Illarion)-----------------------------------------------RU
7) Night Voices (Amah)--------------------------------------------------UB
8) Morgan's Notes: Quiet Lia (Lia Xin)----------------------------------UW
9) The Planeswalker's Daughter (The Endbringer)---------------------UGB
10) The Eightfold Lotus (Kimberly and Jinsen)-------------------------W and UW
11) Small Magic/A Bet On Kindness (Beryl)----------------------------RW
12) The Wind and the Waves (Gale)------------------------------------U
13) Foxtrot (Jackie and Trotter)-----------------------------------------R

Plus UG for Jade and WB for Verity and Leon...

White and blue are very overrepresented in this list I note...


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 Post subject: Re: M:EM Origins
PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:25 am 
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Clearly, we can determine that have more origins than other colors...


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 Post subject: Re: M:EM Origins
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I think they're still very overrepresented among our characters.

You got Larasa and Morgan right, but thanks to NAI regarding her dossier and me agreeing with that much, Mari is technically WG.

I think Zhiran is mono-blue and uses mana-washing artifacts to access the other four colors, IIRC. So he uses 5C magic.

Yeah, Jaded Cat ought to be here at the very least

We might cut Eightfold Lotus. Even the initial suggestion qualified it, and it's white and blue-white if we want to round colors out.

I could write something for Ygraine, though she is still part blue (U/R/G) and/or Lourima (B) -- I think they're my only existing characters without a good origin outside PotP characters who mostly get explained there -- Narissa and Ilyria don't, but w/e.

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Yssiva's First Walk should really be in this.


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Yssiva's First Walk should really be in this.

Is that the Viashino walker that dies? Would that be a good include? I mean it's an origin story and putting a story with an ending like that in an origins collection would totally catch people of guard (maximum impact!). On the other hand, there aren't any more stories of him so we aren't really introducing readers to anything.

Clearly, we can determine that have more origins than other colors...

Cause and a effect is really more of a thing.

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