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Author: | preadatordetector [ Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | What color would say... |
What of the five colors would be the most likely to say these things? "Power should require price." "The heroes are the winners!"
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Author: | Vega_Z27 [ Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: What color would say... |
The first quote is literally blacks motto. It's even built into most of their cards (pay life get this effect, sac and get this effect, etc.) Second is probably white. Heroes implies a group and that kinda seems like whites thing. O |
Author: | Radical Jackal [ Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: What color would say... |
I'm not sure what the first quote means. If it is like "Power is worth any price" that is black. If it is more like "Power comes with responsibility" that is white because they believe everyone with power should use it to make the world better for everyone, and anyone using power selfishly should have that power taken away. The second one sounds black. Your one and only responsibility is to survive. Any question about whether your actions make you a hero can wait until we know who is alive at the end. I could also see red saying this but they care more about actions than results. |
Author: | Monobluegruul [ Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: What color would say... |
Eh, the first sounds like blue describing a situation that occurred to black. Blue would be curious and seek to understand the mechanics that gave black a sudden influx of power. The second sounds quite green to me. I guess you could see it as white believing that they will prevail over its enemies due to the purity of its ideals. However, being the hero because you won is totally green "survival of the fittest" |
Author: | Barinellos [ Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: What color would say... |
Radical Jackal wrote: I'm not sure what the first quote means. If it is like "Power is worth any price" that is black. If it is more like "Power comes with responsibility" that is white because they believe everyone with power should use it to make the world better for everyone, and anyone using power selfishly should have that power taken away. The second one sounds black. Your one and only responsibility is to survive. Any question about whether your actions make you a hero can wait until we know who is alive at the end. I could also see red saying this but they care more about actions than results. I tend to agree that both of these sound black. |
Author: | Heliosphoros [ Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: What color would say... |
The second really depends on the context. If it's "heroes have the righteousness to win", then it's . If it's "heroes are just another word for winners", then it's . |
Author: | Cato [ Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: What color would say... |
As someone who appreciates individual liberties, I thought you might appreciate this. |
Author: | preadatordetector [ Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: What color would say... |
I'm confused Cato. What connection should I be seeing here? |
Author: | Heartless Hidetsugu [ Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: What color would say... |
OP, what color(s) would come across one group of people committing a crime against another group...and kill everyone connected to both groups on the grounds that: the criminals were doing harm, and that those done harm by the criminals would become criminals themselves (by seeking revenge against those who wronged them). |
Author: | HARBiNG3R [ Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: What color would say... |
Pure unadulterated power is more of a black thing but that is not what that sentence is saying. Power requiring price is restriction, balance, a tax even, it's clearly white. The second one is really hard to nail down because I am not sure what context its being used on. It can really be several colors. |
Author: | preadatordetector [ Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: What color would say... |
Heartless Hidetsugu wrote: OP, what color(s) would come across one group of people committing a crime against another group...and kill everyone connected to both groups on the grounds that: the criminals were doing harm, and that those done harm by the criminals would become criminals themselves (by seeking revenge against those who wronged them). might probably do that. doesn't care. would not use that logic to kill two groups of people. doesn't care. would sacrifice a few to protect many. is a utilitarian. |
Author: | Heliosphoros [ Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: What color would say... |
Seems more exclusively , though characters could achieve a similar conclusion. |
Author: | epochtunicate [ Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: What color would say... |
preadatordetector wrote: Heartless Hidetsugu wrote: OP, what color(s) would come across one group of people committing a crime against another group...and kill everyone connected to both groups on the grounds that: the criminals were doing harm, and that those done harm by the criminals would become criminals themselves (by seeking revenge against those who wronged them). might probably do that. doesn't care. would not use that logic to kill two groups of people. doesn't care. would sacrifice a few to protect many. is a utilitarian. preemtive justice seems like a really twisted form of jeskai to me. alone wouldn't be so hasty to wreak that kind of destruction |
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