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Author:  theamazingsquid [ Mon May 16, 2016 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  Kaladesh Theory Thread

It was recently released that Kaladesh (chandra's homeplane) will be the set after SOI. The two sets on the plane being "Kaladesh" and "Aether Revolt". So far this is the only official info we have on the sets:
Spoiler

I'm already a big fan of Saheeli, for many reasons

EDIT:
Spoiler

Author:  AzureShade [ Mon May 16, 2016 12:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

As I said in the spoiler room, I'm glad to see us going to steampunk India, but am very sad that I'm going to have to look as ugly computer generated gold for half the year.

As for theories, maybe Chandra will go visit home, maybe the new 'Walker Saheeli will be an aether adept on the Blue side of things and be part of the tyrannical government. Chandra will lead a resistance and maybe get Gideon to help as he seems like a solid candidate to toss in as Gatewatch back-up.

Author:  Heliosphoros [ Mon May 16, 2016 12:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

Maybe it was built from the remnants of a Persian-inspired multiplanar empire and they have to deal with an evil priest-like person trying to bring it back.

Author:  Jivanmukta [ Mon May 16, 2016 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

Surprised to see the walker so much earlier than any information. Shame Kaladesh is going to have to try and explain why everything looks and feels like Etherium without being Etherium.

Also, finally a bloody plane where we can see Tezzeret. Stupid theme preventing him from having any presence.

Author:  Moppi [ Mon May 16, 2016 12:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

I am hoping for a non fair skinned female walker, although I would've wanted something akin to Koth's skin tone, Saheeli Rai is fine too (Southeast Asia re-present!)

I cannot wait for this set's arts... :D

Author:  Barinellos [ Mon May 16, 2016 12:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

Yeah, I'm generally okay with this.
Kinda hope Chandra just... Isn't here.

Author:  Heartless Hidetsugu [ Mon May 16, 2016 12:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

I'd love to see Tezzeret coming back into the fold. He can crack jokes about Kaladesh's metal being an etherium knock-off. Plus its been too long since we had Bolas involved. Tezzeret can use the McGuffin from Kaladesh to bring the Tyrant of Tarkir to heel, praise be to Emperor Bolas.

Author:  Jivanmukta [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

Barinellos wrote:
Yeah, I'm generally okay with this.
Kinda hope Chandra just... Isn't here.


That is some absolutely adorable naive hope you have there. Shame you're gonna be wrong.

Author:  Barinellos [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

Jivanmukta wrote:
Barinellos wrote:
Yeah, I'm generally okay with this.
Kinda hope Chandra just... Isn't here.


That is some absolutely adorable naive hope you have there. Shame you're gonna be wrong.

Yeah, you're the one fawning over Tezzeret.

Author:  Monobluegruul [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

I'm just sad that she isn't mono-green. There hasn't been an awesome green neowalker. Garruk and Nissa had potential, but they squandered them.

Author:  Jivanmukta [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

Barinellos wrote:
Jivanmukta wrote:
Barinellos wrote:
Yeah, I'm generally okay with this.
Kinda hope Chandra just... Isn't here.


That is some absolutely adorable naive hope you have there. Shame you're gonna be wrong.

Yeah, you're the one fawning over Tezzeret.


At least hoping for the **** ARTIFACT WALKER on an artifact plane has some basis in reality. Thinking a Gatewatch member won't be on their plane is sheer madness.

Author:  Barinellos [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

Jivanmukta wrote:
Barinellos wrote:
Jivanmukta wrote:

That is some absolutely adorable naive hope you have there. Shame you're gonna be wrong.

Yeah, you're the one fawning over Tezzeret.


At least hoping for the **** ARTIFACT WALKER on an artifact plane has some basis in reality. Thinking a Gatewatch member won't be on their plane is sheer madness.

And yet Chandra isn't front and center...

But hey, maybe we'll get Daretti!

Author:  AzureShade [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

Just a heads up, the new "Intro Product" will release the same time as Kaladesh. They will feature two planeswalkers per set and each of the four decks will utilize two colors. This is the image they used to show off the announcement:

Image

Expect Chandra to come home.

Author:  Heliosphoros [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

I'm just sad that she isn't mono-green. There hasn't been an awesome green neowalker. Garruk and Nissa had potential, but they squandered them.


Who knows. Pure-artifact is strange, but maybe Creatve can be CREATIVE this time.

Also Persian multiplanar empire.

Author:  Barinellos [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

Hrm, not thrilled with tossing alternate colors at the mono color Walkers, but on the other hand, easy access to walker cards.

Plus I've been kind of pissed that the duel decks are all faction based. Which haven't been terribly good.

Author:  AzureShade [ Mon May 16, 2016 1:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

While it will be easy access to 'Walker cards, I'm not entirely sure if they will be good cards or not. MaRo said in his write-up that they will be splashy and high mana cost, but simple enough for new players to follow.

Like, I don't know if the specific 'Walker cards in those specific decks will be the same as the ones in the block they are meant to be legal with. Honestly, the announcement was confusing as hell.

Author:  astarael7 [ Mon May 16, 2016 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

AzureShade wrote:
While it will be easy access to 'Walker cards, I'm not entirely sure if they will be good cards or not. MaRo said in his write-up that they will be splashy and high mana cost, but simple enough for new players to follow.

Like, I don't know if the specific 'Walker cards in those specific decks will be the same as the ones in the block they are meant to be legal with. Honestly, the announcement was confusing as hell.

They will not be:
Quote:
The other big difference about Planeswalker Decks is that there's going to be five cards in each that won't be found in the expansion, but that will be considered connected to that block for Standard legality (meaning Planeswalker Decks will be playable in Standard).
The mythic rare planeswalker is one of the five categories of deck-specific cards. (The other four are the rare tutor, the planeswalker-enhanced uncommon, the planeswalker-flavored common and the appropriate dual land.) None of those will be printed in the accompanying large or small set, but all of them will be Standard legal.

Author:  AzureShade [ Mon May 16, 2016 2:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

Yes I saw that, but it means that Wizards plan of only having 15 'Walker cards in Standard at any one time just went way out the window.

Now you'll have five 'Walker cards per block in the sets themselves and four less-good 'Walker cards that are part of the Intro Decks that are standard legal per block as well. That means Standard will be very bloated since there will be three blocks in standard at any one time.

Author:  mikluemp [ Mon May 16, 2016 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

Jivanmukta wrote:
Shame Kaladesh is going to have to try and explain why everything looks and feels like Etherium without being Etherium.

It's been strongly hinted that Crucius the Mad, the sphinx who developed artifice on Esper in bygone days, was a planeswalker. My headcannon is that he was from Kaladesh, unless it turns out that Kaladesh has no sphinxes or we get some backround info on him in return to Alara.

Author:  AzureShade [ Mon May 16, 2016 3:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kaladesh Theory Thread

Chandra: Jace, Kaladesh has a Sphinx problem!
Jace: Why do I feel like I have experience handling Sphinx problems? I should go with you to explore this mystery!
Liliana: Dammit Jace, this veil problem isn't going to fix itself...at least not in a way anyone will be happy with!
Gideon: Jace, it's been like months since you've been home. Aren't you like the living embodiment of law on Ravnica?
Nissa: Well I'm not going, I have a garden to tend to....for Zendikar!

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