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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:48 pm 
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Not sure why everyone hates Ob's art. It looks decent enough to me.
Gideon on the other hand...

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:39 am 
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It is nowhere as bad as Gideon, monkey of Zendikar.
The worst part of Gideon isn't even the face, and that is itself absolutely horrendous, but how incredibly static and lifeless the bizarre pose is.

Absolutely the worst art in the set.

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Not sure why everyone hates Ob's art. It looks decent enough to me.
Gideon on the other hand...

And this coming from that glorious Origins art. Technically it was good render-wise, but the face and the DEAD as a Eldrazi-Pulverized pose is just-- cringe-y.
They did my bae so bad.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:46 am 
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Best Gideon art is still the one from Gatecrash.
That is a hunk of beef cake there. And they even managed it without constantly shouting about how progressive and minority aware they are!

Seriously. You lose points for constantly pointing it out like some eager child thirsty for praise. It gets annoying .

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:42 am 
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Barinellos wrote:
Best Gideon art is still the one from Gatecrash.

OH-shi... How can I forget that succulent Rapoza piece? FOR SHAME. :bigeyes: My goldfish-caliber memory...

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And they even managed it without constantly shouting about how progressive and minority aware they are!
Seriously. You lose points for constantly pointing it out like some eager child thirsty for praise. It gets annoying .

Indeed, recently I looked back at it and I have started to abhor this thing about Magic now.

I know they are playing it safe (Business, you know? BUSINESS!)
But how about something progressive that reaches beyond 2 blocks no? (Tho technically, Gideon's new canon skin color might do that :V ). All of the recent "progressive" moves have felt real band-aid-y.

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He's just super tan from spending all day in the sun fighting Eldrazi, guys. Give him a break.

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SLAUGHTER AT THE REFUGE

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Gideon Jura returned to Zendikar alone, ready to face the Eldrazi. He arrived near Sea Gate on Tazeem and found the area nearly overrun. He fought his way through the Eldrazi until he reached a besieged refuge, then held the Eldrazi back while the survivors fled to the cliffs. Among them was Nissa Revane, a fellow Planeswalker whose connection to Zendikar's elemental soul had waned. Although their paths would take them in different directions, they agreed to meet outside Sea Gate to face the Eldrazi once more.

This story event was covered in the Uncharted Realms story of the same name.

NISSA'S QUEST

Nissa's Renewal

Led by visions, Nissa traveled into the depths of the devastated continent of Bala Ged to find the Khalni Heart, an outgrowth of the soul of Zendikar. Through it, she rekindled her connection to the plane—but she also ran afoul of the demon Ob Nixilis, a former Planeswalker who hoped to use the power of the Khalni Heart to reignite his spark. Flush with the elemental power of Zendikar, Nissa bested Ob Nixilis, removed the Khalni Heart to safety, and escaped.

This story event was covered in the Uncharted Realms stories Nissa's Quest and Nissa's Resolve.

REVELATION AT THE EYE

Ugin's Insight

Although the mind mage Jace Beleren had resisted Gideon's efforts to recruit him, he soon journeyed to Zendikar. He found Ugin himself rebuilding the damaged Eye of Ugin, the underground chamber that's magic had once imprisoned the Eldrazi on the plane. Ugin revealed to Jace how the network of stone "hedrons" might be used to again immobilize the Eldrazi titans, but Jace realized that the same trick might instead serve as a first step in killing them. Ignoring Ugin's dire warnings, Jace left the Eye and made his way to Sea Gate to pass this information on to Gideon.

This story event will be covered in an upcoming Uncharted Realms story.

THE LIBERATION OF SEA GATE

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Gideon set out with the small band of survivors from the destroyed refuge. Battle-hardened veterans and desperate new recruits flocked to his banner. Kiora, a Planeswalker native to Zendikar, brought her own army of merfolk and colossal sea monsters to fight alongside Gideon. They began an attack on the Eldrazi-controlled Sea Gate, joined soon thereafter by Nissa and Jace. The Eldrazi were driven from the city, and Sea Gate's defensive ramparts were rebuilt and fortified. The soldiers of Zendikar celebrated a hard-won victory.

This story event will be covered in an upcoming Uncharted Realms story.

HEDRON ALIGNMENT

Aligned Hedron Network

A horde of Eldrazi soon retaliated, including the titan Ulamog himself, and the four Planeswalkers enacted a bold new plan. While Gideon's troops and Kiora's forces held the city against this fresh assault, Nissa called on the elemental power of the earth to raise sunken hedrons from the ground and move them into a ring around the Eldrazi titan. Jace activated the hedrons' magic, and Ulamog was trapped!

Then everything collapsed. Ob Nixilis appeared, having followed Nissa from Bala Ged. He knocked the hedrons out of alignment to siphon their power for himself. As power flowed into him, Ob Nixilis's Planeswalker spark reignited.

Gideon still believed victory was attainable. Ulamog was still within the hedron ring, still in reach of his army and Kiora's mighty followers. Gideon urged his soldiers forward, leaping to attack the titan himself. For a moment, Ulamog was battered, off balance, and apparently on the edge of defeat.

This story event will be covered in several upcoming Uncharted Realms stories.

The story will continue in Oath of the Gatewatch, the second and final set in the Battle for Zendikar block.


Personally I would have gone with some other art for the liberation of Sea Gate, preferably something at rare so that all five story points were the same rarity. Of course, after looking at all the rares, nothing really stood out as a good replacement.

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Why did Nissa lose her connection with Zendikar (that she was recently retconned into always having) just in time for it to matter for the first time ever?

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It seems her connection was tied to the Khalni Heart. When Ob uprooted it the connection was severed. Also the flower in that art looks magnitudes bigger than the tiny thing Ob and Nissa were wrestling around with.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:51 pm 
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So Ob already had/ somehow weakened the heart before Nissa got to it? Or did the Eldrazi weaken it? That would still jive with Nissa arriving at the heart first.

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It sounds from the story that he used the hedron stones to cut it off from Zendikar and then uprooted it. There were a bunch of hedrons that ad been dragged over to the altar and then arranged in some way with purpose.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:53 am 
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From MaRo's tumblr:

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It was more a matter of White running out of room. There was White Devoid cards in design.


So they did have some white eldrazi running around in design. They just got cut for space concerns.

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A lot more satisfying than his previous answer.

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That's interesting. I think the implication is that we were probably going to see the Eldrazi cultist spells being represented (and maybe Ulamog's light spell) rather than the Eldrazi themselves, but that's still better than nothing.

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I just went and looked at all the cards.

I read Roil Spout as "Spoil Sport" at first.

My reaction to reading Brilliant Spectrum: And more to do than can ever be done. *cue African singing*

Blight Herder honestly looks like something out of Dr. Seuss.

Is anyone else reminded of the Bionicle movie when reading Plated Crusher's flavor text?

Overall I was surprised by the number of flavorful cards that I actually wanted out of this set, but with no one to play with, I ultimately thought, "what's the bloody point?"

However, I am, for the first time in a long while, interested in the story of the plane.


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Blight Herder honestly looks like something out of Dr. Seuss.

"They came with their Once-lers, they came with their Sneetches,
They came with Blight Herders and blood-sucking Leeches,
They came with the weezers and woozers and wazis,
They came with some moron to fight the Eldrazis,
They came from the whens and the hows and the places,
They came with Kiora, and too many Jaces.
They came to converse and then to reminisce-a,
But mostly, they hoped that they could shut up Nissa."


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Blight Herder honestly looks like something out of Dr. Seuss.

"They came with their Once-lers, they came with their Sneetches,
They came with Blight Herders and blood-sucking Leeches,
They came with the weezers and woozers and wazis,
They came with some moron to fight the Eldrazis,
They came from the whens and the hows and the places,
They came with Kiora, and too many Jaces.
They came to converse and then to reminisce-a,
But mostly, they hoped that they could shut up Nissa."


Please tell me you write for a living. Also make a macabre children's book and have me illustrate it.

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So here is something obvious:

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"You must do more than try," said Ugin. "With the hedron network damaged and the fail-safe removed, the titans are free to leave the plane. If Ulamog is wounded, you could drive him away from Zendikar entirely. Away from the hedron network, and our best chance of stopping him. You understand why that would be a disaster. But it may not seem that way to the people of Zendikar. You must dissuade your friends from attacking Ulamog directly—and, if necessary, you must stop them."
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Then everything collapsed. Ob Nixilis appeared, having followed Nissa from Bala Ged. He knocked the hedrons out of alignment to siphon their power for himself. As power flowed into him, Ob Nixilis's Planeswalker spark reignited.

But Gideon still believed victory was attainable. Ulamog was still within the hedron ring, still in reach of his army and Kiora's mighty followers. Gideon urged his soldiers ahead and leapt forward to attack the titan. Ulamog was battered, off balance, and apparently on the edge of defeat.
-Battle for Zendikar Player's Guide


Ulamog will escape, physical form bruised a bit. A prison escape and chase down arc gives plenty of time to setup movie plot while revisiting previously established planes.

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Blight Herder honestly looks like something out of Dr. Seuss.

"They came with their Once-lers, they came with their Sneetches,
They came with Blight Herders and blood-sucking Leeches,
They came with the weezers and woozers and wazis,
They came with some moron to fight the Eldrazis,
They came from the whens and the hows and the places,
They came with Kiora, and too many Jaces.
They came to converse and then to reminisce-a,
But mostly, they hoped that they could shut up Nissa."


Please tell me you write for a living. Also make a macabre children's book and have me illustrate it.

I wish I could tell you that I write for a living. That would be fantastic. Although I like the idea of a horribly macabre and dark story done in the style of a children's book. I might have to make that a thing one of these days.


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