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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:04 am 
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I do not read it and that art style does not make me want to read it

You don't read Gunnerkrig? Did I parse that right? What strange manner of beast are you?
Here's some context http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=998

Or did you not read the page at all? Let me show you the power of Mr Sidell's art.
http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=779
http://gunnerkrigg.com/?p=831
http://gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1068
http://gunnerkrigg.com/?p=677

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:05 am 
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i found gunnerkrigg and read all of it a bit ago it was pretty nice and TPman was in it except he was pretty sad

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:24 am 
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I dont really read web comics unless they are complete. I was reading like 4 but I havent checked them out in over a year. Gunkerkid looks interesting but I the art is weird to me.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:58 am 
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Gunnerkrigg is one of those ones that I noped out on when I saw the scale of the archive, and that was years ago. Also, it gets mentioned a TON but I know virtually nothing about it, putting it in the weird category of cultural touchstones I know by inference, not even Osmosis.

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I went and saw The Great Wall yesterday. It's not as bad as the review aggregates would indicate. The technical aspects of the visuals feel a little behind the time every now and then, but overall it's the spectacle you'd expect from the director of Hero, and the colors are bright enough that it might even survive being screened in 3d (I almost always see 2d when I have the option; this was no exception). The plot is basically Battle of Helm's Deep: The Movie or, well, every other military "Hold the line" scenario but its competently executed and perhaps more importantly doesn't overstay its welcome by repeating the same exact scenario and choreography for too long or spinning off a zillion side plots that ultimately go nowhere. In fact, I dare say that the storytelling is pretty efficient: both the main plot and the couple subplots there are have a decent setup-stuff-payoff structure, even if they're nothing really impressive. The acting isn't great, but especially the Chinese leads do feel properly invested and in character. It gives you nothing new and leaves no lasting impact on its audience but it's fun while it lasts and I have to give it a few extra credit points for Not having the male and female leads hook up despite better character bonding than many films that DO; Not going the full Rambo "Take on a zillion enemies and destroy them at their source for all time" route I thought they'd go -- there's no implication that this wasn't the way the enemy was stopped in previous runs in the past; and Not giving Damon's character the solo killing blow on the boss monster. All things I would expect out of a Hollywood production that it's kind of refreshing to avoid.

All in all, I can't really recommend it, since movies are fairly expensive ways to kill a couple hours, but if you get the opportunity to catch it cheap, like at a second run theater or a bargain matinee, there's no huge reason not to go. Solid 'B-' or 'C' product. (though I think in movie terms that gets inflated to a B+ given the association of 'B' movies)

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I dont really read web comics unless they are complete. I was reading like 4 but I havent checked them out in over a year. Gunkerkid looks interesting but I the art is weird to me.


the art style changes a lot fwiw its kind of like QC in terms of how often it evolves i imagine

i liked the artwork at the start more than at the end probably though so there's that

and yeah ongoing stories suck i wouldn't recommend reading it

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I think the 38% approval rating is absurd, but for a different reason than most people do. I'm not shocked by how low they are, I'm shocked by how high they are. He put Scott Pruitt, a global warming denier, in charge of the EPA. He appointed Betsy Devos, a billionaire republican donor and advocate of privately owned for-profit schools, as secretary of education. He appointed former Goldman Sachs CIO Steve Mnuchin as treasury secretary. He appointed Exxon Mobil CEO Rex Tillerson as secretary of state. His secretary of energy is Rick Perry, a man who made a campaign promise during his own presidential bid to dismantle the department of energy. Essentially, for every department of government, he's chosen the person most willing and best able to abuse their office to benefit private wealth and power over the common interest of the American people.

Honestly, I find it absurd how someone like Mown who comes from a strong social democratic state can support a party and a government that wants to dismantle every social program, slash taxes on the wealthy, dismantle all business regulation, and privatize the educational system. Is your hatred of Muslims and feminists really that strong?

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considering something like a quarter of americans don't believe in global warming, it makes sense that something like a quarter of americans would be happy that a global warming denier is in charge of the EPA. I imagine a lot of people probably believe that privatizing various public sectors will make them stronger.

Someone who wants to dismantle the department of energy being the secretary of energy is pretty funny though, and probably does actually show a lack of respect for the department.

Some people believe that its wrong to force people to be charitable and I can empathize with that mindset although I disagree with it. I think trump claimed that he wanted to slash taxes on the wealthy and then close loopholes so that the wealthy ended up paying more than they do now and idk if he'll ever deliver on that but he's got at least 4 years to do so. A lot of people believe that the less regulated a market is, the stronger it is, and that a strong market benefits both the rich and poor. A lot of people believe a private education system will be stronger than a public education system.

I don't think the state you come from necessarily has a big impact on your preference for government, although it certainly can. I don't think mown is particularly supportive of trump or his government though.

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The graph shows they've been declining since somewhere between Oct 16 and Jan 17, lol:

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At least I'm not delusionally resorting to "alternative facts" and defending hilariously overthetop atrocities out of pettiness.

And lo, your argument resorts to "he's popular, ergo your criticism does not apply".

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Yes.


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This might come as a surprise, but we're not actually in January. An increase of 21% the last 30 days is not "Dwindling every day", no matter how much you would like it to be the case. Yes, he had a spike during the election. Who would have imagined?

Can you stop now? Since you haven't presented whatever was "further down the article", while hypocritically deriding me for not presenting what part of the article ran counter to your assertions (despite doing so), I'm going to assume that you've accepted your position as too embarrassing to defend any further. You're now at a point of just basically insulting me for no substantial reason (unless you would like to present the "alternative facts" that I am allegedly using). Either way, I'm done.

Have your last word, if you so wish. If anyone actually found the content of your posts convincing, I don't know what to say. I don't think there is anything I can say.

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Yes.

This is why we can't have nice things. You'd burn down your own country if it meant you could deport immigrants from the ashes.

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You'll have to excuse me if I don't consider importing people that ideologically resent me to be a nice thing.

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Lutherans ideologically resent Catholics (and Baptists weirdly enough), who in turn, resent most Protestant religions, who are all resented by Satanists and Atheists who are resented ideologically by most Christian Conservatives in general, who are mostly ideologically resented by many Liberal factions.....and yet we all seem to be fine and not 100% against allowing more of the same into our country.

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You'll have to excuse me if I don't consider importing people that ideologically resent me to be a nice thing.


Supporting the christian version of the Sharia Law will surely not backfire in any way way [/sarcasm]

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Lutherans ideologically resent Catholics (and Baptists weirdly enough), who in turn, resent most Protestant religions, who are all resented by Satanists and Atheists who are resented ideologically by most Christian Conservatives in general, who are mostly ideologically resented by many Liberal factions.....and yet we all seem to be fine and not 100% against allowing more of the same into our country.

They're still fairly civil about the inability of all of their imaginary friends to coexist.
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You'll have to excuse me if I don't consider importing people that ideologically resent me to be a nice thing.


Supporting the christian version of the Sharia Law will surely not backfire in any way way [/sarcasm]

Is the Christian version of the Sharia Law "don't allow mass immigration of homophobes"?
If so, I can get behind that.

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They're still fairly civil about the inability of all of their imaginary friends to coexist.


i beg to differ

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Yeah, but with that attitude, I don't understand resistance to immigration. Relatively speaking, the people coming to this country want to be here and live happy, productive lives. Relatively speaking, they've already had to jump through many of legal and security hoops to get here. Relatively speaking, just being here in the US will acculturate them to be more like the rest of us. I'm really not understanding what conflicting ideology may or may not have to do with any of this, especially when it comes to homophobia. Immigrants are no more or less homophobic than anyone else as far as I know. In fact, some of them may be coming here to escape the harsher realities of homophobia in their old countries.

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Relatively speaking, just being here in the US will acculturate them to be more like the rest of us.

That one is slightly more debatable in terms of yield, but I'm not getting involved in this on either side. The cultural movements have made a lot of regressive strides in assimilation over the past few decades.

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