not sure if this should go here or lore and storyline post to that section if so also it's very late here so my spelling and gammer will be off thanks in advance now to my main point

with a new standard block format, new card frame, a time travel story, upcoming movie and a new set called origins Are We in a magic the gathering reboot? With so manny changes so fast i have to think so. What got me thinking this is why tell jaces backstory it's been told before why rehash it unless they are changing it, and saying what happened during fate reforged made every plane go back to better fit a marketing campaign for future toys and movies steam-line 20+ plus years of back-story for the largest player base magic has ever seen ivan said during pro tour fate reforged "the way we look at this story(origins) will affect sets for years to come" also "it's not a end it's a beginning" if that's not a reboot i don't know what is

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A "reboot" implies that they're discarding their existing continuity and starting with a blank slate. Just retelling origin stories isn't a reboot, it's simply a different chapter of the same story. They're definitely working up to some kind of major change, but it seems to be happening in-universe. Why would they be building up the storyline for a world changing event if they were just going to throw it away?

I dunno, why did DC do Crisis on Infinite Earths and Infinite Crisis on Infinite Earths?

Well... I really couldn't speculate on that

Although I may just be defining things differently. I think there's a huge difference between a storyline where weird events happen and reality can actually get altered, and people rewriting a story because they want to tell it differently this time. Most "reboots" are cases of people telling the same story in a new way, not invoking cosmic timeline changes in-universe.

If this is a reboot, then M:EM is officially more competent collectively at creating a storyline than WotC is.

I will be incandescent with rage.

I don't think they're gonna do that though and in fact Doug has assured us a couple times now that the timeline changes on Tarkir are LOCALIZED so no they aren't going to suddenly alter the entire post-Mending timeline. Will they retcon some of what we know about the five planeswalkers in Magic Origins? Probably. I blame that on them not keeping track of their own storyline though, not on willful continuity reboots.

It's as much of a continuity reboot as we've dealt with twice before, at most. They aren't wiping a blank slate, and the backstory of the main 'walkers of the current era has never "been told" in set form. I mean, we kinda know where most of them came from thanks to the webcomics and novels, but not really: it's all flashback.

MTG lore went through the Revision and the Mending, If they want to try to restandardize and determine which of their continuity errors are actually canon and use tarkir bs to cover the inconsistencies: Fine, sure, whatever. If they want to make a modern access point so people with 20-odd years of storyline knowledge don't have the monopoly on pertinent facts over those starting with origins/movie, sure. reduce the rules you need so you can explain everything to the newcomers. In some ways, the time skip forward from Time Spiral to Alara already does that: you don't need to know jack about Urza to follow Jace.

But what is both perishingly unlikely and would be disastrous would be a blanket "that didn't happen". But see part 1 of that sentence.

What they're not doing is levelling everything to a clean

The way that post just sorta stops midsentence worries me.

Did MaRo's commandos claim the life of yet another vorthos???

I just figured it was candle Jac

I got editing further up the post midsentence and then forgot to finish what I was writing down at the bottom before hitting send.

OH THANK GOD SZAT

I was afraid you'd been erased from the timestream.

Actually come to think of it since this comes pre-Mending theoretically stuff that happened on Tarkir could undo the Mending.

I mean I'm just saying that this is a fanfic hook basically begging to happen.

Or, the events that happened on Tarkir helped to create the Mending.

I mean technically Time Crap tends to rip big gaping holes in the fabric of the Multiverse so honestly? Probably. Hell, it's quite possible the only reason Sarkhan was able to do what he did was because big planeswalker duels open rifts. Maybe Ugin capitalized on that.

Your post was really hard to read, but I think you're right. Good call.

My frank opinion is that most of the sour opinion toward the Great Hijinx of Aught-Three and the Great Hijinx Redux of Aught-Seven comes from the disease of caring too much. Tarkir is getting something of a reboot, though this is localized to Tarkir. Either Doug or Maro went on to say that they would not be using this as a solution to the Eldrazi.

....................the disease of caring too much?

If we're getting a reboot then I want a new mechanical infrastructure.

It's a very legitimate concern. Japan is currently crumbling from within because the new generation are developing symptoms of hikikomori from the so called "moe culture" plague. The concept has been around for a long time. For example, reports on the television shows "Care Bears" seem to indicate that it was aimed at a younger audience not for commercial reasons, but so that teenagers would grow aversed to the concept as they discard the notion of anything they find childish.

Yes. It was a fun storyline, following Urza's war with Phyrexia to the craziness of Fifth Dawn and the convoluted Godzilla battle royale that was Dissension. The kneejerk reactions to some of the following storyline entries--the Mending, The Planeswalker Novel That Shall Not Be Named, little continuity snafus--is all a bit silly when you consider its all directed toward something meant to sell cards. Its a horror I've seen on another superhero forum I frequent, and on some old Resident Evil boards I used to visit, usually linked to creative decisions on pieces of entertainment that all seems pretty overblown when you consider what it is that the people are getting mad about.

I don't know what to say but I had to say something o-o

I'm afraid to google "moe culture."

Cateran if you don't care about a work of fiction then why are you engaging with it at all

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