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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:46 am 
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t’s almost time to introduce everyone to Magic: The Gathering Arena!

Join us on Thursday, September 7 at 1:00 PM Pacific on Twitch.tv/magic and we’ll show you what we’ve been working on - with special guests Amaz and Gaby Spartz!


So...any ideas on what this will be?

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They already have like 3 pc games so I doubt that. Unless its magic online 2.

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I recall reading somewhere that it's likely a MOBA.

I don't remember where I read this, just that I did. Most likely in a Steam forum.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:09 pm 
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Well it would be pretty awkward if they invalidated people's Magic Duels collections to replace the game with a slightly different version of f2p Magic cards. I choose to be cautiously optimistic.

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Well it would be pretty awkward if they invalidated people's Magic Duels collections to replace the game with a slightly different version of f2p Magic cards. I choose to be cautiously optimistic.


i don't know why you would be anything but dreadfully pessimistic when it comes to hasbro managing their digital properties.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:34 pm 
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Remember that Risk computer game that Hasbro did a really good job on? Man, I miss the 90s.

Edit: I'm sorry, I'm thinking of Risk 2, which was released in 2000. But still...

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What Is MTG Arena?

Magic: The Gathering Arena is free-to-play, authentic Magic, reborn digitally for gamers, fans, and streamers.

You've heard us talk about Magic Digital Next and the Digital Games Studio, our efforts to translate the rich world of Magic into modern digital gaming experiences. MTG Arena is the first of those efforts and is intended to be the ultimate way to play the latest card sets in Magic. It is available to download with no fee and is a free-to-play-game.

First and foremost, MTG Arena is going to be an amazing place to play the game you love with all the depth, rules, and choices fans love, plus the striking and easy-to-understand visuals that make watching online exciting. We want popular MTG Arena streams to consistently be among the most-viewed streams on Twitch. We want players to eagerly anticipate MTG Arena draft nights with their friends around the world. We want pro players' competitive ladder matches to be watched with the same fervor as a Grand Prix.

To realize that vision, we're creating the game with three important goals in mind.

We want to create the deepest, richest digital card game on the market. Magic already boasts some of the deepest strategy of any TCG in the world, tabletop or digital, and MTG Arena's goal is to live up to that depth right at the start of Closed Beta. By the time we go into full launch, MTG Arena will feature the full card sets in Standard, with around 1,000 new cards added every year. That means deeper gameplay, more experiences to discover, and more room to explore.

We want to create a version of Magic that's as much fun to watch as it is to play. Viewing MTG Arena on Twitch or other platforms will be a fast-paced, exciting, and easy to understand experience for fans across the globe. Our goal is nothing less than creating one of the premier esports communities, with viewing experiences packed with fun visuals, awesome sound, and cool ways to learn from and interact with our evolving catalogue of content.

We want to create a game that can evolve. We've created an all-new Games Rules Engine (GRE) that uses sophisticated machine learning that can read any card we can dream up for Magic. That means the shackles are off for our industry-leading designers to build and create cards and in-depth gameplay around new mechanics and unexpected but widly fun concepts, all of which can be adapted for MTG Arena thanks to the new GRE under the hood.

To accomplish these lofty goals, the development of the game is going to take time, and throughout this process our work will be more visibly inclusive of our fans than any previous Magic product. We have great ideas about the game—soon we'll be inviting players like you to play and share your thoughts with us.

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I don't have the bandwidth for streaming video, so I couldn't watch that. The Web site is up now, but it doesn't actually explain what it is, beyond it being a free-to-play way to play Magic (with full rules implementation) on a PC. They're making a big deal about streamability, which I don't care at all about, and they say it isn't actually a successor to Magic Duels. They don't seem to bring up whether it includes single-player (i.e. bot) play, which is all I'd care about. And they're letting people sign up for the beta, as though that were a privilege.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:38 pm 
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If this ends up being a hit, it will be hard to believe MTGO won't discontinued in some five years or so.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:47 pm 
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Mtgo allows you to use cards from before ixalan and allows you to qualify for the pro tour (which I doubt they would do in a product where you don't pay for your cards). Also allows you to trade your digital cards for physical cards if you collect a full set


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Heartstone the Gathering.

Good call

Edacade wrote:
I recall reading somewhere that it's likely a MOBA.

I don't remember where I read this, just that I did. Most likely in a Steam forum.

Bad call


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Mtgo allows you to use cards from before ixalan and allows you to qualify for the pro tour (which I doubt they would do in a product where you don't pay for your cards). Also allows you to trade your digital cards for physical cards if you collect a full set

But that is the thing -- this is the case now, when Arena (presumably) only contains Ixalan. But the card base for the new game will grow a thousand cards per year as more sets are released; rotation is going to become an issue for Arena as well, which means that cards released for it that rotate out will need to find a way to be used too. And if the game becomes a hit, there will be a demand to get Modern and other formats into the game.

And I don't think they are too happy with the impact of redemption, considering they have been making it continuously more difficult throghout the years (increasing prices, reducing the time they are available, etc).

Now, I am not saying this will happen immediately, but if Arena takes off it just seems very very likely in some five years or so.


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They'd probably just make a 'Wild' format where you can play anything from Ixalan on. People know when buying into F2P card games that there's a chance everything they have will evaporate just like how in the paper game most Standard cards don't hold their value when they rotate out. But since cards can be crafted from 'Dust', there's not going to be an issue with some older arena cards becoming much more valuable because they're played in Wild.


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Edacade wrote:
I recall reading somewhere that it's likely a MOBA.

I don't remember where I read this, just that I did. Most likely in a Steam forum.

Bad call


Is it, though? There's no mention of a single-player game mode. All gameplay is against other players. I don't actually know what MOBA stands for, but through the context of the games that are referred to as MOBAs I would assume it stands for Multiplayer Online Battle Arena.

It's multiplayer only.
It's online.
You battle others with cards/decks.
It's called Arena.

It's a MOBA. :V

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It's not like moba has ever been a good descriptor for the games it's intended to categorize.

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Anyone else have trouble signing up for the beta? I get the 404 page when I click the signup link.

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