No Goblins Allowed :: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)

Deckbuilding
Each player creates a deck of three Magic cards following the banned list, and any additional restrictions imposed by the current format. (See Round Types below.) Decks are submitted to me via private message with "3CM" and "Deck" somewhere in the title. My deck is finalized before reading these PMs; if you'd like me to send you a verification PM with my list in it, just ask. You may update your decklist up until the deadline. (Unless you've asked me to share my list with you.)

If you send me a deck that can't win against a deck with three blank cards, I'll ask you to confirm that you're aware of this fact. This rule exists to prevent people from accidentally submitting decks that don't work, while still allowing Karn Liberated decks and other such shenanigans.

Gameplay
After the round is closed, each deck plays against each other deck twice, once going first and once going second. Normal Magic rules apply to a game of 3CM, except for the following exceptions.

Players don't lose the game for drawing from an empty library.
If the original source of a random effect (i.e. coinflip) comes from one player's deck, the other player chooses its outcome.
Effects that get cards from outside the game (Wishes, Research // Development, Ring of Ma'ruf) cannot be used to find anything.

Games are played with the contents of both decks known to each player at all times. Players will always play optimally and to win.

Scoring
When the round is closed, a spreadsheet of all the decks and matchups is posted, to be filled in by the players. Players are encouraged to double-check the matchups graded by other players, since mistakes are often made when complicated decks are involved. A win is worth 3 points, a draw is 1 point, and a loss is 0 points.

Round Types
A season consists of four rounds: two vanilla and two alternate formats.
Vanilla: These rounds follow normal rules, but have a banned list that changes every season.
Alternate Formats: These rounds use special rules that might effect deckbuilding, gameplay, or both!

Fabulous Prizes
When a round is done being graded, prizes are awarded! Grand Prizes are given out at the end of the season.
Round Prizes: The winner of each round may suggest an alternate format (in either category) to be put on the poll next season.
Consolation Prizes: The lowest-scoring player of each Vanilla round picks one card from that round's winning deck to add to the next season's Vanilla banned list.
Grand Prizes: The top-scoring players of the entire season each get to make some number of changes to the Vanilla banned list, based on their rank. Each change allows that player to either add a card or remove a card. First place gets three changes, second place gets two, and third place gets one. Note: A card may not be unbanned if it was newly banned at the start of the season.

Tiebreakers
1. Head-to-head: Whoever has the most points from games against other the other tied player(s) wins the tie.
2. Match-Wins: Whoever won the most games wins the tie. (Ignore draws.)

Season 1
Season 2 (Winners: thatmarkguy, CommanderJim, Yarium)
Season 3 (Winners: Hello World, purple shrimp, mjack33)
Season 4 (Winners: razorborne, masterofdoom, thatmarkguy)
Season 5 (Winners: razorborne, door (dooooooooooor), Hello World)
Season 6 (Winners: POSValkir, thatmarkguy, door (dooooooooooor))
Season 7 (Winners: CommanderJim, thatmarkguy, GobO_Scarlet)
Season 8 (Winners: CommanderJim, thatmarkguy, mjack33)
Season 9 (Winners: thatmarkguy, silasw, POSValkir)
Season 10 (Winners: vlord, thatmarkguy, silasw)
Season 11 (Winners: POSValkir, mjack33, silasw)
Season 12 (Winners: Rubik, POSValkir, CommanderJim)
Season 13 (Winners: thatmarkguy, Rubik, POSValkir)
Season 14 (Winners: Rubik, Golgari_Spy, thatmarkguy)
Season 15 (Winners: Golgari_Spy, thatmarkguy, Rubik)
Season 16 (Winners: thatmarkguy, POSValkir, Golgari_Spy)
Season 17 (Winners: door (dooooooooooor), thatmarkguy, Golgari_Spy)
Season 18 (Winners: Golgari_Spy, Edacade, door (dooooooooooor))
Season 19 (Winners: thatmarkguy, POSValkir, Zlehtnoba)
Season 20 (Winners: CommanderJim, POSValkir, Golgari_Spy)

Your average match points for each round are summed together to generate your score.
Rank|Name|Total Score|Round 1|Round 2|Round 3|Round 4
1|CommanderJim|15.77|3.17|2.40|4.80|5.40
2|thatmarkguy|13.87|4.67|2.80|2.00|4.40
3|POSValkir|13.40|4.00|2.40|4.00|3.00
4|Golgari_Spy|10.60|3.00|4.80|1.00|1.80
5|Edacade|7.20|1.00|2.40|0.80|3.00
6|Zlehtnoba|6.00|3.00|2.80|0.00|0.20
7|door (dooooooooooor)|3.60|0.00|0.00|3.60|0.00
8|Cgalcic|2.00|2.00|0.00|0.00|0.00

Any card banned in Vintage.
Any deck that can win before a blank opponent can take a full turn. (A blank opponent is an opponent with three blank cards.)
Any deck that can reduce the number of cards in a blank opponent's hand by more than one card during a single turn.
Barren Glory
Blackmail
Cabal Therapy
Chancellor of the Annex
Channel
Dark Depths
Ensnaring Bridge
Flash
Foil
Force of Will
Ghost Quarter
Grave Titan
Inquisition of Kozilek
Laboratory Maniac
Leyline of Anticipation
Phyrexian Revoker
Shelldock Isle
Show and Tell
Shrieking Affliction
Strip Mine
The Rack
Thoughtseize
Wasteland

1. Cgalcic
Crystal Vein
Crystal Vein
Eater of Days
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).dec

2. CommanderJim
Undiscovered Paradise
Goblin Guide
Stormscape Apprentice
lewis and clark.dec

3. Edacade
Timberline Ridge
Dryad Arbor
Power Conduit
clean energy.dec

4. Golgari_Spy
Icatian Store
Icatian Store
Elspeth, Sun's Champion
elspeth's discount spear store.dec

5. POSValkir
Lotus Bloom
Lotus Bloom
Dragon Broodmother
broodyquest.dec

6. thatmarkguy
Tidehollow Sculler
Mox Pearl
Swamp
LastRefugeOfAScoundrel.dec

7. Zlehtnoba
Crystal Vein
Mana Crypt
Lodestone Golem
crystal crypt.dec

1. CommanderJim
Disrupting Shoal
Pact of Negation
Chancellor of the Forge
just in case black lotus comes back.dec

2. Edacade
Mox Jet
Dark Ritual
Phylactery Lich
extra points for flavor.dec

3. Golgari_Spy
Mishra's Factory
Mox Jet
Bitterblossom
noncreature creatures.dec

4. POSValkir
Pendelhaven
Thallid
Scythe Tiger
frosted flakes.dec

5. thatmarkguy
Blinkmoth Nexus
Rishadan Port
Maze of Ith
ThisIsntTheNonlandCardYoureLookingFor.dec

6. Zlehtnoba
Badlands
Evil Presence
Bloodhall Ooze
bad.dec

1. CommanderJim
Keldon Megaliths
Izzet Boilerworks
Propaganda
NivMizzetIsTheGreatestDragonOfAllTime.dec

2. door (dooooooooooor)
Island
Island
Dream Thrush
slightly_worse_storm_crow.dec

3. Edacade
Hickory Woodlot
Sheltering Ancient
Canopy Cover
ShelterFromTheStorm.dec

4. Golgari_Spy
Mana Confluence
Mental Misstep
Skyshroud Elite
Leet.dec

5. POSValkir
Ice Floe
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Pili-Pala
Scarecrow.dec

6. thatmarkguy
Adarkar Wastes
Quicksand
Wu Light Cavalry
IfItCawsLikeACrowAndItMurdersLikeACrow.dec

September 30th? October 5th?

Is time travel afoot here? :incognito:

Actually, that reminds me...*disappears off to the YMtC forums*

d2: Goblin Guide, attack (18)
d4: Icatian Store
d2: attack (16), Stormscape Apprentice
d4: 1 counter, Icatian Store
d2: attack (13)
d4: 3 counters
d2: attack (10)
d4: 5 counters
d2: attack (7)
d4: 7 counters
d2: attack (4)
d4: untap, Elspeth, Sun's Champion, 3 soldiers
d2: ping (3)
d4: attack (18), 5 soldiers
d2: ping (2)
d4: attack (14), 7 soldiers
d2: ping (1)
d4: ult, swing for 21

I hate all five of the people perpetuating the Storm Crow meme. :censored:

Author:	CommanderJim [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:	[3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
Welcome to 3 Card Magic, the world's best minimalist Magic format! What's 3CM? The basic concept is simple: make a deck consisting of any three Magic cards, and try to beat all the other decks! If you're new here, you should start by reading the 3CM Primer. Deck submissions should be PM'd to me, CommanderJim, or emailed to [email protected]. The Rules Deckbuilding Each player creates a deck of three Magic cards following the banned list, and any additional restrictions imposed by the current format. (See Round Types below.) Decks are submitted to me via private message with "3CM" and "Deck" somewhere in the title. My deck is finalized before reading these PMs; if you'd like me to send you a verification PM with my list in it, just ask. You may update your decklist up until the deadline. (Unless you've asked me to share my list with you.) If you send me a deck that can't win against a deck with three blank cards, I'll ask you to confirm that you're aware of this fact. This rule exists to prevent people from accidentally submitting decks that don't work, while still allowing Karn Liberated decks and other such shenanigans. Gameplay After the round is closed, each deck plays against each other deck twice, once going first and once going second. Normal Magic rules apply to a game of 3CM, except for the following exceptions. Players don't lose the game for drawing from an empty library. If the original source of a random effect (i.e. coinflip) comes from one player's deck, the other player chooses its outcome. Effects that get cards from outside the game (Wishes, Research // Development, Ring of Ma'ruf) cannot be used to find anything. Games are played with the contents of both decks known to each player at all times. Players will always play optimally and to win. Scoring When the round is closed, a spreadsheet of all the decks and matchups is posted, to be filled in by the players. Players are encouraged to double-check the matchups graded by other players, since mistakes are often made when complicated decks are involved. A win is worth 3 points, a draw is 1 point, and a loss is 0 points. Round Types A season consists of four rounds: two vanilla and two alternate formats. Vanilla: These rounds follow normal rules, but have a banned list that changes every season. Alternate Formats: These rounds use special rules that might effect deckbuilding, gameplay, or both! Fabulous Prizes When a round is done being graded, prizes are awarded! Grand Prizes are given out at the end of the season. Round Prizes: The winner of each round may suggest an alternate format (in either category) to be put on the poll next season. Consolation Prizes: The lowest-scoring player of each Vanilla round picks one card from that round's winning deck to add to the next season's Vanilla banned list. Grand Prizes: The top-scoring players of the entire season each get to make some number of changes to the Vanilla banned list, based on their rank. Each change allows that player to either add a card or remove a card. First place gets three changes, second place gets two, and third place gets one. Note: A card may not be unbanned if it was newly banned at the start of the season. Tiebreakers 1. Head-to-head: Whoever has the most points from games against other the other tied player(s) wins the tie. 2. Match-Wins: Whoever won the most games wins the tie. (Ignore draws.) Previous Seasons Season 1 Season 2 (Winners: thatmarkguy, CommanderJim, Yarium) Season 3 (Winners: Hello World, purple shrimp, mjack33) Season 4 (Winners: razorborne, masterofdoom, thatmarkguy) Season 5 (Winners: razorborne, door (dooooooooooor), Hello World) Season 6 (Winners: POSValkir, thatmarkguy, door (dooooooooooor)) Season 7 (Winners: CommanderJim, thatmarkguy, GobO_Scarlet) Season 8 (Winners: CommanderJim, thatmarkguy, mjack33) Season 9 (Winners: thatmarkguy, silasw, POSValkir) Season 10 (Winners: vlord, thatmarkguy, silasw) Season 11 (Winners: POSValkir, mjack33, silasw) Season 12 (Winners: Rubik, POSValkir, CommanderJim) Season 13 (Winners: thatmarkguy, Rubik, POSValkir) Season 14 (Winners: Rubik, Golgari_Spy, thatmarkguy) Season 15 (Winners: Golgari_Spy, thatmarkguy, Rubik) Season 16 (Winners: thatmarkguy, POSValkir, Golgari_Spy) Season 17 (Winners: door (dooooooooooor), thatmarkguy, Golgari_Spy) Season 18 (Winners: Golgari_Spy, Edacade, door (dooooooooooor)) Season 19 (Winners: thatmarkguy, POSValkir, Zlehtnoba) Season 20 (Winners: CommanderJim, POSValkir, Golgari_Spy) Scoreboard Your average match points for each round are summed together to generate your score. Rank\|Name\|Total Score\|Round 1\|Round 2\|Round 3\|Round 4 1\|CommanderJim\|15.77\|3.17\|2.40\|4.80\|5.40 2\|thatmarkguy\|13.87\|4.67\|2.80\|2.00\|4.40 3\|POSValkir\|13.40\|4.00\|2.40\|4.00\|3.00 4\|Golgari_Spy\|10.60\|3.00\|4.80\|1.00\|1.80 5\|Edacade\|7.20\|1.00\|2.40\|0.80\|3.00 6\|Zlehtnoba\|6.00\|3.00\|2.80\|0.00\|0.20 7\|door (dooooooooooor)\|3.60\|0.00\|0.00\|3.60\|0.00 8\|Cgalcic\|2.00\|2.00\|0.00\|0.00\|0.00 Season 21 Vanilla Banned List Any card banned in Vintage. Any deck that can win before a blank opponent can take a full turn. (A blank opponent is an opponent with three blank cards.) Any deck that can reduce the number of cards in a blank opponent's hand by more than one card during a single turn. Barren Glory Black Lotus Blackmail Brain Maggot Cabal Therapy Chancellor of the Annex Channel Chronomaton City of Traitors Dark Depths Daze Encroach Energy Field Ensnaring Bridge Flash Foil Force of Will Frost Titan Ghost Quarter Grave Titan Hangarback Walker Inkmoth Nexus Inquisition of Kozilek Karakas Laboratory Maniac Lion's Eye Diamond Lupine Prototype Mayor of Avabruck Meddling Mage Mesmeric Fiend Mishra's Factory Mishra's Workshop Nezumi Shortfang Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath Panoptic Mirror Powder Keg Ratchet Bomb Shelldock Isle Show and Tell Shrieking Affliction Simian Spirit Guide Sphere of Resistance Steel Overseer Storm World Strip Mine The Rack The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale Thoughtseize Wasteland Newly banned Newly unbanned Alternate Format Banned List Any card banned in Vintage. Any deck that can win before a blank opponent can take a full turn. (A blank opponent is an opponent with three blank cards.) Any deck that can reduce the number of cards in a blank opponent's hand by more than one card during a single turn. Barren Glory Blackmail Cabal Therapy Chancellor of the Annex Channel Dark Depths Ensnaring Bridge Flash Foil Force of Will Ghost Quarter Grave Titan Inquisition of Kozilek Laboratory Maniac Leyline of Anticipation Phyrexian Revoker Shelldock Isle Show and Tell Shrieking Affliction Strip Mine The Rack Thoughtseize Wasteland Past Round: Vanilla Begins Saturday, November 5th Ends Wednesday, November 9th Decklists 1. Cgalcic Crystal Vein Crystal Vein Eater of Days ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).dec 2. CommanderJim Undiscovered Paradise Goblin Guide Stormscape Apprentice lewis and clark.dec 3. Edacade Timberline Ridge Dryad Arbor Power Conduit clean energy.dec 4. Golgari_Spy Icatian Store Icatian Store Elspeth, Sun's Champion elspeth's discount spear store.dec 5. POSValkir Lotus Bloom Lotus Bloom Dragon Broodmother broodyquest.dec 6. thatmarkguy Tidehollow Sculler Mox Pearl Swamp LastRefugeOfAScoundrel.dec 7. Zlehtnoba Crystal Vein Mana Crypt Lodestone Golem crystal crypt.dec Past Round: Vanilla Redux Begins Friday, November 11th Ends Wednesday, November 16th Decklists 1. CommanderJim Disrupting Shoal Pact of Negation Chancellor of the Forge just in case black lotus comes back.dec 2. Edacade Mox Jet Dark Ritual Phylactery Lich extra points for flavor.dec 3. Golgari_Spy Mishra's Factory Mox Jet Bitterblossom noncreature creatures.dec 4. POSValkir Pendelhaven Thallid Scythe Tiger frosted flakes.dec 5. thatmarkguy Blinkmoth Nexus Rishadan Port Maze of Ith ThisIsntTheNonlandCardYoureLookingFor.dec 6. Zlehtnoba Badlands Evil Presence Bloodhall Ooze bad.dec Past Round: Storm Scale Every deck must lose 0-6 against Island, Island, Storm Crow. Begins Saturday, November 19th Ends Wednesday, November 23rd Decklists 1. CommanderJim Keldon Megaliths Izzet Boilerworks Propaganda NivMizzetIsTheGreatestDragonOfAllTime.dec 2. door (dooooooooooor) Island Island Dream Thrush slightly_worse_storm_crow.dec 3. Edacade Hickory Woodlot Sheltering Ancient Canopy Cover ShelterFromTheStorm.dec 4. Golgari_Spy Mana Confluence Mental Misstep Skyshroud Elite Leet.dec 5. POSValkir Ice Floe Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth Pili-Pala Scarecrow.dec 6. thatmarkguy Adarkar Wastes Quicksand Wu Light Cavalry IfItCawsLikeACrowAndItMurdersLikeACrow.dec Past Round: Auras! For each permanent card in your deck, you may choose an Aura with the same mana cost as that card. ( and are different mana costs.) That card always enters the battlefield with a token copy of that Aura attached to it, unless the Aura can't legally enchant that permanent. Begins Friday, November 25th Ends Wednesday, November 30th Decklists 1. CommanderJim Black Lotus Blood Vassal (Unhallowed Pact) Emrakul, the Promised End promise.dec 2. Edacade Tundra Phantasmal Bear (Robe of Mirrors) Wispmare (Gift of Immortality) edacade's home for imaginary creatures.dec 3. Golgari_Spy Leyline of Vitality (Elemental Resonance) Garruk Relentless Chameleon Colossus (Gaea's Embrace) wolf tribal.dec 4. POSValkir Leyline of Lifeforce (Elemental Resonance) Master of the Wild Hunt (Gaea's Embrace) Mayor of Avabruck (Alpha Authority) hunter x hunter.dec 5. thatmarkguy Leyline of Vitality (Elemental Resonance) Leyline of Lifeforce (Elemental Resonance) Distended Mindbender (Eldrazi Conscription) GetBent.dec 6. Zlehtnoba Leyline of Vitality (Elemental Resonance) Omnath, Locus of Mana (Venomous Fangs) Nylea, God of the Hunt (Equestrian Skill) god on a horse.dec

Author:	CommanderJim [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
Welcome back to 3CM! Since last season's intro post was so silly, I'm going to switch it up this week and just talk about what actually happened. Last season we were all visited by the spooky Black Lotus. This artifact is very polarizing in 3CM because of its ability to single-handedly change the entire metagame, enabling expensive plays on your first turn. It was certainly a popular choice in the first round of Vanilla, but it was also met with some hate in the form of Disrupting Shoal. In the end, my double Hangarback Walker deck won the round by just being incredibly hard to stop in any way. In the Vanilla Redux, the Lotus hate basically disappeared, which worked out well for my Lotus, Lotus, Inferno Titan deck, but it was Golgari_Spy's Elspeth, Sun's Champion deck that came out on top. Never underestimate the power of tokens in 3CM. Our next round was Conspiracy, where players augmented their decks with conspiracies like Brago's Favor and Double Stroke. My favorite decks from the round were the ones that used Weight Advantage to turn their Memnites or Dragon's Eye Savants into deadly beaters. In the end, though, I won again with a reanimator deck, combining Brago's Favor with Unburial Rites and Lion's Eye Diamond to immediately put an Iona, Shield of Emeria onto the battlefield. This shut down a lot of decks on the play, and on the draw, a 7/7 flyer was often still enough to win. Our last round was Mana Echoes, where every unit of colored mana came with an additional colorless one. I used an infinite mana combo with Initiates of the Ebon Hand to cast Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, annihilating the competition and giving me yet another win. Even though I did surprisingly well last season, I don't expect lightning to strike twice. The title is up for grabs; will you take it? Bans: Black Lotus, Brain Maggot, Chronomaton, City of Traitors, Hangarback Walker, Mayor of Avabruck, Mesmeric Fiend Unbans: Mishra's Factory We've got a long list of new bans this season, with only one unban. I'm looking forward to seeing what people will build with all these constraints. Good luck! New Round: Vanilla Begins Saturday, November 5th Ends Wednesday, November 9th Season 21 Vanilla Banned List Any card banned in Vintage. Any deck that can win before a blank opponent can take a full turn. (A blank opponent is an opponent with three blank cards.) Any deck that can reduce the number of cards in a blank opponent's hand by more than one card during a single turn. Barren Glory Black Lotus Blackmail Brain Maggot Cabal Therapy Chancellor of the Annex Channel Chronomaton City of Traitors Dark Depths Daze Encroach Energy Field Ensnaring Bridge Flash Foil Force of Will Frost Titan Ghost Quarter Grave Titan Hangarback Walker Inkmoth Nexus Inquisition of Kozilek Karakas Laboratory Maniac Lion's Eye Diamond Lupine Prototype Mayor of Avabruck Meddling Mage Mesmeric Fiend Mishra's Factory Mishra's Workshop Nezumi Shortfang Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath Panoptic Mirror Powder Keg Ratchet Bomb Shelldock Isle Show and Tell Shrieking Affliction Simian Spirit Guide Sphere of Resistance Steel Overseer Storm World Strip Mine The Rack The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale Thoughtseize Wasteland Newly banned Newly unbanned

Author:	Edacade [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:28 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
September 30th? October 5th? Is time travel afoot here? Actually, that reminds me...disappears off to the YMtC forums

Author:	CommanderJim [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:39 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
Edacade wrote: September 30th? October 5th? Is time travel afoot here? Actually, that reminds me...disappears off to the YMtC forums I always forget something. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Author:	CommanderJim [ Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
One day left to submit Vanilla decks!

No Goblins Allowed http://862838.jrbdt8wd.asia/

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Author:	CommanderJim [ Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:03 am ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
Vanilla Spreadsheet Decklists 1. Cgalcic Crystal Vein Crystal Vein Eater of Days ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).dec 2. CommanderJim Undiscovered Paradise Goblin Guide Stormscape Apprentice lewis and clark.dec 3. Edacade Timberline Ridge Dryad Arbor Power Conduit clean energy.dec 4. Golgari_Spy Icatian Store Icatian Store Elspeth, Sun's Champion elspeth's discount spear store.dec 5. POSValkir Lotus Bloom Lotus Bloom Dragon Broodmother broodyquest.dec 6. thatmarkguy Tidehollow Sculler Mox Pearl Swamp LastRefugeOfAScoundrel.dec 7. Zlehtnoba Crystal Vein Mana Crypt Lodestone Golem crystal crypt.dec

Author:	thatmarkguy [ Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:53 am ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
Cgalcic, you definitely shortchanged yourself. You stomp all over Zlen. Lodestone Golem doesn't slow Eater of Days because it's an artifact too. Even when Zlen goes first, your Eater lands after you've only been hit once - then it's not even a combat race, all you'd have to do is wait and let Mana Crypt kill him! Broodmother's a bit of a race. But by my math, even on the play, you only get POSV down to 2, and then there are enough dragons opposing to be able to kill an attacking Eater and leave at least one survivor. So that score seems to be right. It felt like you might just outrace on the play, but you miss it by that much.

Author:	POSValkir [ Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:19 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
How dare you question my results Dangit Mark and Zlen...you were supposed to play anti-land! Edit: Also, Jim, I had you as 3 vs G_spy. Pretty sure you get them to three before Elspeth lands when you are on the play and then you can drain them the last three before they can kill you. It's close though.

Author:	CommanderJim [ Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:11 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
I think I can only get Golgari_Spy down to 4 before Elspeth comes down, which gives her enough time to ult. Here's how I have it. 2v4 d2: Goblin Guide, attack (18) d4: Icatian Store d2: attack (16), Stormscape Apprentice d4: 1 counter, Icatian Store d2: attack (13) d4: 3 counters d2: attack (10) d4: 5 counters d2: attack (7) d4: 7 counters d2: attack (4) d4: untap, Elspeth, Sun's Champion, 3 soldiers d2: ping (3) d4: attack (18), 5 soldiers d2: ping (2) d4: attack (14), 7 soldiers d2: ping (1) d4: ult, swing for 21

Author:	thatmarkguy [ Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
Questioning results - it's what's for dinner! I don't think Jim gets GS to 3 before Elspeth; just 4 (he can't play both Apprentice and Guide on T1, and Guide is clearly the right aggro first play, so Apprentice can't start hurting til T3). A very important difference! In a vacuum, GS's elspeth lands on GS'es T6. Store1 lands on T1 and gets counters on 2, 3, 4, 5 Store2 lands on T2 and gets counters on 3, 4, 5 The first turn GS has 6 mana available is T6. Jim on play: T1 Goblin Guide, swing (20-18) T2 Stormscape, swing with GG alone because apprentice is still sick (20-16) T3 Swing all (20-13) T4 Swing all (20-10) T5 Swing all (20-7) T6 Swing all (20-4) (and now lands elspeth and her first soldiers) T7 Swing with GG; stormscape ping T8 Stormscape ping T9 stormscape ping T10 Stormscape ping for win, if CJ ever gets a T10. Elspeth's side clearly can't let GG through or death comes two turns sooner, but it could chump the GG or kill it. If chump: T7: Make more dudes (loy 6, 5 dudes, 2 swing) T8: Make more dudes (loy 7, 7 dudes, 5 swing) T9: Ult Elspeth (swing for 21 flying, and game over) Since swinging with GG is clearly a losing proposition, CJ might rather keep GG at home as a blocker. But that's no help, as Elspeth's army of 9 becomes a flying power of 27 on T9. Yeh, I think CJ does take the 0, losing the close race on the play. Dammit ninjad. That's what happens when I spend over 15 minutes on a post.

Author:	thatmarkguy [ Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
Someone marked a note of "Goblin Guide + Mana Crypt outraces Lodestone Golem." on 2vs7. They way I thought it, Goblin Guide doesn't matter at all. With Lodestone on the play it lands and CJ never casts a spell. With CJ on the play he drops Stormscape on T1, and either wins with 20 swings or drains from that, or Zlen plays the Golem then CJ proceeds to tap down the Golem every turn as the Crypt delivers the kill. Though I guess if one was inclined to play the Goblin Guide it would outrace, too.

Author:	CommanderJim [ Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:14 am ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
New Round: Vanilla Redux Begins Friday, November 11th Ends Wednesday, November 16th Season 21 Vanilla Banned List Any card banned in Vintage. Any deck that can win before a blank opponent can take a full turn. (A blank opponent is an opponent with three blank cards.) Any deck that can reduce the number of cards in a blank opponent's hand by more than one card during a single turn. Barren Glory Black Lotus Blackmail Brain Maggot Cabal Therapy Chancellor of the Annex Channel Chronomaton City of Traitors Dark Depths Daze Encroach Energy Field Ensnaring Bridge Flash Foil Force of Will Frost Titan Ghost Quarter Grave Titan Hangarback Walker Inkmoth Nexus Inquisition of Kozilek Karakas Laboratory Maniac Lion's Eye Diamond Lupine Prototype Mayor of Avabruck Meddling Mage Mesmeric Fiend Mishra's Factory Mishra's Workshop Nezumi Shortfang Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath Panoptic Mirror Powder Keg Ratchet Bomb Shelldock Isle Show and Tell Shrieking Affliction Simian Spirit Guide Sphere of Resistance Steel Overseer Storm World Strip Mine The Rack The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale Thoughtseize Wasteland Newly banned Newly unbanned

Author:	POSValkir [ Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:22 am ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
Ah, I didn't even think about the ult.

Author:	CommanderJim [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:32 am ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
The poll for this season's first alternate format is now up! I decided to bring back an old classic and a new twist on Chimney Sweeps from Season 2.

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Author:	CommanderJim [ Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:04 am ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
One day left to submit decks for the Vanilla Redux!

Author:	Edacade [ Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:19 am ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
I hate all five of the people perpetuating the Storm Crow meme.

Author:	Golgari_Spy [ Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
Edacade wrote: I hate all five of the people perpetuating the Storm Crow meme. the votes could be to respect the power of basic island though

Author:	Edacade [ Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
That's a meme too, although admittedly (and perhaps strangely) not as annoying. Yet.

Author:	CommanderJim [ Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
I still haven't finalized my deck yet, and I'm pretty swamped today, so I hope all of your submissions are legal! (Because I haven't checked.)

Author:	Edacade [ Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:04 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [3CM] Season 21: Moving On (Join Anytime!)
I need to stop submitting my decks so early, cause I always forget what I submitted. -checks sent messages- I'd forget my own head if it wasn't attached to my body.