I'm having trouble deciding between bridge tongs rack and through the breach emrakul.

Which do you guys think is better in this meta?

Edit: Another option was double meddling mage or double mesmeric fiend or a mix of those things.

All your named cards are illegal in this round?


All cards must have CMC of 4.

Oh. Then Jim has been doing a really really really bad job monitoring pm'd decks for legality.

I just hadn't gotten around to finalizing my decklist until late last night. If your PM is still in your outbox, I haven't read it.

Okay, so for 3CM Season 11 I have to submit two alternative rounds, but because I'm new to this I have absolutely no idea what kind of things would be cool, so I've come up with a few and am keen for some feedback on which ones look like fun to play. Obviously, none of them at all could get picked, so it might not matter anyway.
I'm out for the moment. Any look promising?

Football can't possibly be balanced. edit: Yeah Llanowar Elite is kind of crazy.
Pirates is cool.
Can't Touch This doesn't seem very interesting.
idk what to think about CS.
Not sure how much half-life changes things. Second Rite for the win I guess.
1CM is probably a terrible idea.

1 CM would have to have a stupidly long special ban-list. There are too many things like Karn Liberated that are just stupid if you cast them turn 1.

Not to mention how pointless any form of removal would become since you can cast cards from anywhere. Grave Titan owns the format.

Maybe add an additional life cost for each time the card is cast from somewhere other than the hand?

Football should probably have a stipulation for when the kicker cost is free. Like only if the kicker cost is less than or equal to the mana cost of the card. That way you don't get a 6/6 trampler for 1, but you can still get value out of cards like Gigantiform or Benalish Emissary. And the thing about only kicking once for free needs to be extended to cards with multiple kicker costs, not just multikicker.

Yeah. Value out of Gigantiform.
Good luck with that :v

I don't have every Kicker card in existence memorized, so sue me. P:

Skullwinder looks like an interesting little card for Lotus rounds. The classic Anurid Scavenger deck is probably generally better, and it's probably no match for dual lotus...but who knows?

At the very least we have a new Leonin Squire for medallion rounds...

Oh, that's nice. Sure, it's weak to round boogeymen FoW and Tabernacle (and Revoker)... but Black Lotus - Skullwinder - Liliana of the Veil would actually have 6-0d my deck last round (a feat no submitted deck accomplished). Now, Leonin Squire or Nether Spirit instead of Skullwinder would have done the same, mind... but there's something pleasing about that deathtouch that would allow it to at least trade with anything nonevasive.

Hmm, that might just be better than Scavenger just because it's a turn faster on the kill removal or can discard on turn 1. I was looking at True-Name Nemesis but Lily does a nice job.

I found another fun deck I want to use soon:

Gigantoplasm
Dryad Arbor
Sand Silos

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Ok, I went back and checked Season 2 Round 17 and Chaos Lord is giving me a headache. Can someone explain how Deck 8 loses to Deck 10? As far as I can tell, if 8 plays Chaos Lord, 10 plays its land and Lord bounces control every upkeep and no one can attack with it until another permanent is played. But since deck 10 can only play their cards during their main phase, wouldnt that mean if they play anything to make the number of permanents odd, and therefore keep Lord under a player's control, Lord would remain under deck 8's control and deck 8 would be able to attack for the win?

Seems to me the only way for the opponent to permanently control your Chaos Lord is to be able to play a permanent on your turn after Chaos Lord has switch controllers...

Edit: Nvm, I think I figured it out. Broodstar's flying means Lord can't block it, so Lord flickers back and forth while Star flies to the win.

"Chaos Lord can attack as though it had haste unless it entered the battlefield this turn."



PS: wait no it triggers on your upkeep. yeah I don't know. why does it even have that clause then?

Yeah, but as far as I can tell, Lord can never make it to the main phase. On your upkeep it transfer's to your opponents control. If the opponent didn't play anything on your turn, then the number of permanents is clearly still even. During their upkeep it flickers back.

But I edited in how I think the deck lost. Star has flying so lord can't block it.

Ha, we're in an edit war. The clause makes a little sense outside of 3CM. You can bust out a Wurm on your opponent's turn and get an attack in.

yeah, but it's from Ice Age. flash wasn't a big thing then.

Kjeldoran Outpost?, Nvm, came after...maybe that's why they made it

Ugh, this round is so unintuitive. Trying to figure out how good my deck is and looking at the Desecration Elemental lines I keep thinking "Isnt that 3-3?" but then I remember you play to win, so Elemental can't come down until the opponent plays out, but if the opponent plays out first, Elemental wins...so no one does anything.