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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:52 am 
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I think I found the optimal deck for 1CM.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:13 am 
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60cm is fun and all that, but 1cm is where it's at.

it's RPS with Chancellor-Arbor-Memnite, except rock, paper, and scissors all tie each other.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:46 am 
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We now have 21 participants and everything is broken. I hope you're happy, razorborne.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:01 am 
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We now have 21 participants and everything is broken. I hope you're happy, razorborne.

damn you razorborne

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:35 am 
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At least it isn't 21 for WUBRG. Moroii should be a smidgen easier to figure out.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:44 am 
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I submitted the first thing that popped into my head after CJ pointed out my deck couldn't win =( Next time, I suppose.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:03 am 
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That actually only took like 10 minutes to fix.

Moroii Spreadsheet!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:58 am 
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My match-ups

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:33 am 
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Desert does nothing against me, partly because feeder eats fiend with its trigger on the stack, but also because carrion feeder sacs itself and desert ends up killing you.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:39 am 
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combat against the Hunted Phantasm/Wasteland deck is pretty gross to work out

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:45 am 
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quit complaining, you don't have to figure out Shadow vs. Shadow. damn it Valkir.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:55 am 
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turns out greater gargadon doesn't have suspend 9. oops

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:04 am 
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So many effing Gargadons.

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Outta time, will come back at this later. v5 has some scenarios worth considering re: when to use spirit as a blocker or as an attacker, and I see v6 has the same decision point I need to investigate.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:10 am 
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I'm not sure about 21,how does he win?
Can't the opponent force awkward orchard activations by never playing anything?

Also if someone can find the results of my deck versus 19(Ajani) I'd be grateful.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:19 am 
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Can someone please do the math on 1vsPhantasm? I can't figure it out right now.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:45 am 
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16v21: Nifty on the play, but pretty awful on the draw. I've done the math on Orchard as a kill condition and in case anyone wants to know how it works: you activate Orchard the first four times on your own turn, the fifth on your opponent's turn, and the sixth on your own again, which goes exactly 20. (6-0)


But even on the play that ideal fragile line only barely beats an absolute goldfish (1-0!), doesn't it? Like Hello says, I don't see how Arcane Denial helps at all because the only turn it can afford to not tap the Orchard on-own-turn is turn 4, so Arcane isn't in place to be able to counter first-three-opponent-turn casting threats.

And on the draw ... can it even beat a goldfish?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:10 am 
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vs.12

death shadow never gets casted, the lands ping him to death
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How so? You can't keep your threats around with Tabbie on the board. Whether you go first or not is irrelevant. I play Tabbie, wait to play swamp and shadow until I'm at 12, then walk to the win.

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[spoiler]vs.12

death shadow never gets casted, the lands ping him to death
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How so? You can't keep your threats around with Tabbie on the board. Whether you go first or not is irrelevant. I play Tabbie, wait to play swamp and shadow until I'm at 12, then walk to the win.

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due to the nature of Fiend's wording, if it's sacrificed to Feeder before the etb ability resolves, the card it removes is gone forever. in this case, that card is Shadow. if you play Tabby you lose to Tabby pinging you, if you don't you lose to a 2/2 beating down.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:17 am 
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That's weak. I'm gonna pull the old NES card out: CHEAP!

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