To everyone who still thinks the answer to this question is anything but "**** NO", check lsv's twitter for the last couple of days. That should make you realize how much of a disgrace magic online is.

Yes, these bugs are huge issues.

What you're failing to recognize is that even after the "xth" bug LSV encountered he still went back to play more. The client works the majority of the time but unfortunately has some major issues attached to it.

The point of the camp who actually use the client, unlike most of the people who tell you not to, is that for the most part you get to play Magic.

But that's like if in paper tournaments every once in a while a judge would just rule that you lose and you had to pack and leave just because. Sure you get to play magic but why would you put yourself in a spot where incredible feel bad scenarios happen for no reason at all? At that point it's not worth it.

LSV is a professional magic player, most of his life revolves around magic so of course he goes back to MTGO. But for someone who is just looking to have fun playing magic, then no getting into MTGO is not a good choice and they should try another [inferior to magic] game.

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'works majority of the time' is meaningless. The MTGO experience is like you’re being treated to an elaborate 10-course dinner, and then have to eat a very small turd at the end. Regardless of how great the food was, the turd was still there. And that diminishes the rest of the experience to a great extent.

It's obvious you don't use MTGO, so let's consult some people who have, like one LSV for instance.

@lsv
The funny thing is that I do love MTGO, play it a ton for fun, and will continue to do so. Bugs like this do make me take a break, sadly.

@lsv
@OwenTweetenwald it's a tough spot. Magic is the greatest game and playing on-demand is so insane. Just hard to deal with game-ending bugs.

Comparing to paper tournaments is terrible because on MTGO I never have to worry about somebody cheating me out of prizes. I never have to call a judge because there is in-game rules enforcement. I never get a game loss for mis-registering my deck. I don't have to file for an appeal after a tournament because the head judge ruled improperly. Playing Magic in all scenarios comes with caveats and unforunately MTGO's main problem is client based.

These bugs do happen, but they do not happen at the rate you're trying to make them seem. A random person logging in for a draft isn't going to screwed by bugs. I'm not some type of MTGO apologist, when something breaks on the client I get upset too and file for compensation. But to make it seem like you start a game and from start to finish the program **** all over you is ridiculous. Nobody is denying the client has problems, lots of them. But somehow you're having the problem of identifying how much upside there is to being able to play Magic whenever you want.

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Of course he says that, in fact he just said he'd be back on it tomorrow but as I said his life is basically magic and he needs mtgo for tournament testing anyway so its not like he has a choice as there just arent any other options.

OP in this thread just wants to know if MTGO is worth (heh) it overall, he can probably live without magic pretty easily so there's no reason to invest time/money in something as broken as mtgo, no matter how big the 'upside' is.

If you play a lot of MTGO then you know that these bugs do happen but aren't frequent in a game-to-game basis.

So because he's a professional and uses the client a lot his opinion of client isn't accurate because? I guess only the people who use it infrequently have the most accurate representation of the client.

There are pros and cons and only the incendiary crowd want to talk about how the program is **** constantly. You still use it even though you know it's bad. Stop being a hypocrite about it.

they are not game-to-game basis, but frequent enough to detract from the experience greatly.

When did I ever say his opinion isn't accurate? You're just making stuff up now?

I still use it because I am already invested, what I'm saying is that right now is not a good time to get into it. I would be a hypocrite if the OP asked "is it worth to keep using MTGO" but he's not, he wanted to know if it's worth to get into it, which is not the same thing.

Also +80% of the pros who magic online and put out content with it do so while talking about how the program is **** constantly, are they part of the incendiary crowd too?

It's definitely not worth getting into MTGO. The user interface is complete, unadulterated ****. It looks and feels like it's being run on Windows 1998 and does nothing to inspire any confidence that WOTC can do anything remotely good in the digital space.

If you are already using it, well then you are screwed and should probably keep using it because you have all that time and money invested into the thing.

yeah, of course it detracts from the experience. but if the guy wants to draft ktk once a week i highly doubt he's going to get screwed by the client from bugs.

oh, the casual shrugging off of his opinion and the highlighting of him being a professional was nothing, okay. of course you never said anything like that. of course of course of course.

random nonsense statistic time.

The program is good and bad. I don't understand how hard this is to understand. But I guess it's just another thing the mtg community loves to do and get up in arms about things they aren't invested in.

another member of the incendiary crowd has appeared!
https://twitter.com/OwenTweetenwald

It's okay, continue to be a hypocrite.

@OwenTweetenwald
@lsv I love MTGO more than anything in the world, I just have no faith in it.

wouldn't getting bugged out be even worse of an experience if it happened the one weekend you set time aside to draft ktk, as opposed to the guy who mtgo's everyday?


I didn't casually shrug off his opinion, and I highlighted him being a professional because it was along a point I was trying to make which you just seem to ignore: lsv, unlike most users posting here, is partially living off magic so his going back to mtgo is different than someone who is undecided whether to get into using it or not.


random generic internet rebuttal time

Who said anything is hard to understand? Are you debating with an imaginary version of me for which you create responses in your head and then reply back?

trying sheer volume this time