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Author: | GobO_Fire [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
Below is the working draft copy of the Code of Conduct that we've been hammering out for... well, for too long really. Various factors (some avoidable, some not) have kept it from hitting a point where we were comfortable inviting public comment. Now, though, we've pushed through the last bit of edits, and so now it's your turn. We want to hear your thoughts on this CoC. What isn't clear? What might be a good idea at the core, but is terribly worded? What did we forget to include? Commenting will remain open for at least one week - longer if necessary. So by all means, take your time letting it sink in as you read it if needed. As always, you're free to say, "It sucks." But if you do - as in, that's the entirety of your critique - we're also free to not take your comment very seriously. Or, in other words, please take some time to offer details - both about what is wrong and about how to possibly fix it. Thanks in advance for your feedback. ~~~~ The Code Of Conduct Table of Contents Section One: Content Section Two: Behavior and Conduct Section Three: Links Section Four: Advertisements Section Five: Signatures and Avatars Section Six: Reporting Posts / Moderator Action Section Seveb: Intellectual Property Section Eight: Discipline And Procedures Section Nine: Appendix Section Ten: Revision History Section One: Content The moderators and staff of No Goblins Allowed strive to create a welcoming environment open to all those interested in tabletop games and the creative opportunities they afford. We have a low tolerance for content that negatively affects the enjoyment of others, especially hostile, insulting, derogatory, graphic, explicit, illegal, or inflammatory content. This means (among other things):
This policy encompasses all content posted directly to the site, including but not limited to forum posts, avatars, user names, signatures, and private messages. Back to Top Section Two: Behavior and Conduct In furtherance of the aforementioned goal of creating a welcoming environment, hostile or toxic behaviors such as flaming, trolling, harassment, bullying, threatening, impersonation, and disclosure of personal information without consent will not be tolerated. This means (among other things):
Once again, this policy encompasses all content posted directly to the site, including but not limited to forum posts, avatars, user names, signatures, and private messages. Back to Top Section Three: Links Content posted to sites other than No Goblins Allowed is of course not subject to our policies on acceptable content and thus may contain content that would violate this Code of Conduct if posted directly to this site. It is generally OK to link to such content, with the following exceptions:
Back to Top Section Four: Advertisements We strive to be an ad-free site; as such please observe the following rules in place regarding advertising.
Back to Top Section Five: Signatures and Avatars The following rules are specific to avatars and signatures used by community members at No Goblins Allowed. All other rules listed in this Code of Conduct apply equally to signatures and avatars.
Back to Top Section Six: Reporting Posts / Moderator Action Our staff endeavors to keep our forums welcome to all and free of content against the Code of Conduct. Please observe the following guidelines when reporting content or interacting with staff.
Back to Top Section Seven: Intellectual Property We value creativity and hope you're willing to share your creative works with us and the rest of the community. We also understand, however, that many creative folks worry about losing their Intellectual Property rights. All content posted on the forum remains the property of the original owner of the copyright and/or trademark. By posting your content on our site, you agree to grant No Goblins Allowed an indefinite but revocable license to host said content and display it on our forum and blog. This license does not grant us permission to use your material in any other way, commercially or not, without your permission. You may at any time of your choosing revoke this license by contacting either the site administrator, GobO_Admin, or one of the moderator Leads, GobO_Althalus and GobO_Fire. Please inform us where your content is posted (which thread, whether it was quoted by another user, whether it was ever on the blog, etc) and we will be happy to remove it and contact you in return so you can verify the content was satisfactorily removed. Proper attribution will be given in all instances; if content is posted to the blog and you would like your real name identified with your material, contact the site administrator or a lead moderator and they'll take care of that for you. Original content posted to No Goblins Allowed is the intellectual property of the poster of that content. Content may be posted with other licenses as desired by the intellectual property owner of that content, with the caveat that none of those licenses may require NGA to host a work that the owner expressly forbids posting on the forum or blog in any context. NGA is a community, not a hosting site. Additionally, the correct usage, adherence to, and display of that license is the sole responsibility of the user of that license. NGA does not arbitrate intellectual property disputes dealing with user-specific licenses outside of cases of copyright infringement. All applicable United States copyright laws apply to this forum. If you believe your work has been infringed upon by a user of this forum, please follow the same procedures as you would for the standard license revocation procedure as outlined above. However, please ensure before issuing a request that the work in question is, in fact, infringing. Transformative works and fanfiction are protected under Fair Use guidelines in the United States and are not, in and of themselves, evidence of copyright infringement. Please see the Organization for Transformative Works' FAQ for more information on Fair Use and the kind of non-profit fan works this site encourages. Sale or distribution of cracked copies of games, proxies, copyrighted works of fiction, and similar non-transformative and/or for-profit materials is strictly prohibited. Back to Top Section Eight: Discipline And Procedures If any member has demonstrated he or she cannot follow this Code of Conduct, the Website Terms of Use, or the Privacy Policy, then the member may lose access to ALL of his or her accounts and all associated content and screen names. Moderators issue formal warnings via private message or email when a member has made a Code of Conduct infraction. Depending on the severity of the infraction, No Goblins Allowed may issue a warning, timed suspension or termination of the account. This explanation of disciplinary procedure is meant to be a guideline for members to understand our processes. In rare exceptions, No Goblins Allowed reserves the right to deviate from this procedure at any time, if it deems it necessary to do so. Back to Top Section Nine: Appendix For ease of reference, provided here is a list of all current staff members, they're "title" on the staff, and a brief explanation of their job role. This information is provided here to aid in determining, for example, which moderators cover which forum sections. In addition, the below table also indicates who specific staff members report to, so that if there is ever a need for a community member to escalate, the information is documented. Name|Title|Reports To|Description GobO_Admin|Site Owner|—|The Grand Poohbah, Admin is the final authority on any matter GobO_Welder|Site Admin|GobO_Admin|Welder is responsible for technical maintenance of the site GobO_Slobad|Community Manager|GobO_Admin|Slobad is responsible for community building, including increasing traffic to the site GobO_Althalus|Moderator Lead|GobO_Admin|Althalus is responsible for supervising the moderation team GobO_Fire|Moderator Lead|GobO_Admin|Fire is responsible for supervising the moderation team GobO_Blitz|Underground Moderator|GobO_Althalus and GobO_Fire |Blitz is responsible for moderating the Underground section of the forum GobO_Furt|MTG Moderator|GobO_Althalus and GobO_Fire |Furt has moderation responsibility over the entire Magic section of the forum GobO_Kheldar|MTG Moderator|GobO_Althalus and GobO_Fire |Kheldar has moderation responsibility over Magic General, Limited, Constructed, and DotP Place GobO_Ravenclaw|MTG Moderator|GobO_Althalus and GobO_Fire |Ravenclaw has moderation responsibility over the entire Magic section of the forum GobO_Sapper|PBP & RPG Moderator|GobO_Althalus and GobO_Fire |Sapper has moderation responsibilities over the Tabletop RPG and Play-by-Post sections of the forum GobO_Scarlet|PBP Moderator|GobO_Althalus and GobO_Fire|Scarlet has moderation responsibilities in the entire play-by-post area M:EM Archivist|Magic: Expanded Multiverse Archiver |GobO_Althalus and GobO_Fire |M:EM Archivist is a special user-account with minor moderation tools available to enable the M:EM community to more easily archive their accepted works Back to Top Section Ten: Revision History When this version of the CoC goes live, all changes to the document - even typo correction - will be logged to this section to make it easier for community members to see revisions at a glance. Date|Version #|Revision Author|Section #|Summary of Change {Pending}|1.00|Site Staff|Whole Document|Initial Release Back to Top |
Author: | KeeperofManyNames [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
Whoever wrote the IP section is brilliant. What a masterpiece. |
Author: | GobO_Sapper [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
Thank you. |
Author: | Ko [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
ask OGRE how he formatted the ymtc primer with the interpost links and stuff |
Author: | GobO_Sapper [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
The final draft will most likely include the 'goto' and 'achor' tags to allow for moving about inside the post itself. For now while we're actively editing the actual wording we were trying to keep formatting slim so that things could more easily be altered, moved around, and such. A good suggestion though Ko. |
Author: | Ko [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
I glanced over the first half and I think it is ok provided that there is still a case-to-case judging of stuff. Like I think it could be funny if someone pretended to be Chris Hanson or whatever (yes I know he's not a law enforcement officer here but whatever) for the purpose of a joke. I get not being able to make accounts to impersonate staff is bad but I don't think that this is so bad done sparingly. Additionally with the linking section, I would like to be able to link to videos with harsh language (such as the infamous "dunkey videos" that got me in trouble in the league of legends thread) or even to a stream (mine or others) that uses harsh language. So I don't think that rule is very good. You could add some kind of qualifying statement to it, OR you could just remove it. The report section also says to comment someone after 48 hours if the report has been closed. How does a normal user have access to this information? |
Author: | GobO_Sapper [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
Regarding videos with harsh language, pay particular attention to the following: Quote: Do not provide links to images, videos, other media, or sites solely intended to be obscene, racist, sexist, or excessively graphic. Quote: When linking to content offsite that would violate the code of conduct if posted directly, we expect you to clearly label your link (for example, "click here" is not acceptable) and we also expect it to be tagged with warnings such as "NSFW" to be absolutely clear where the user will be going after they click. Emphasis mine. A video that has a point other than language but includes language is not disallowed. For example the Epic Rap Battles of History videos for the most part contain a curse word here or there, but serve a point aside from obscene language.Thus: A video about, or a steam of, a video game where there is actual content to be had in the video that contains the random profanity here and there is not disallowed. A video that is about a game but is just nothing but cussing, racist jokes, graphic content etc is not allowed. Furthermore if you were linking to a stream in which you knew profanity would be common, per the second quote you'd simply make a note in the post with the link saying something along the lines of "This link is NSFW : Adult Language / Humor will be present". - - - - - - - - As far as the report section, I'm not sure if you worded things how you meant to... but... for clarity: If you report a post, and after 48 hours it looks like nothing has been done then you PM the moderator for the area. If you notice a post that is offensive and try to report it, and find that a report is already open on that post, then after 48 hours from that point PM the moderator for the area. |
Author: | Ko [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
so I can post dunkey if I do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtVsM6V9qxA nsfw ??? |
Author: | GobO_Sapper [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
Well for that video in particular it could be argued that there is no point aside from the vulgarity. Which I believe is one of the reasons it was removed in the first place, but I wasnt part of that action so Im not certain its the same video, I'm just assuming here. Its not a tutorial, or a gameplay guide, or anything constructive ... its basically a joke, and that joke is the over the top cursing, obscene comments, etc. thus the link in fact appears to be "solely intended to be obscene". Furthermore, when tagging something NSFW its prefer you actually explain why. For example "NSFW - Profanity" or "NSFW - Sexual Content" |
Author: | KeeperofManyNames [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
GobO_Sapper wrote: Thank you. ...Well played. |
Author: | Ko [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
GobO_Sapper wrote: Well for that video in particular it could be argued that there is no point aside from the vulgarity. Which I believe is one of the reasons it was removed in the first place, but I wasnt part of that action so Im not certain its the same video, I'm just assuming here. Its not a tutorial, or a gameplay guide, or anything constructive ... its basically a joke, and that joke is the over the top cursing, obscene comments, etc. thus the link in fact appears to be "solely intended to be obscene". this is wrong Quote: Furthermore, when tagging something NSFW its prefer you actually explain why. For example "NSFW - Profanity" or "NSFW - Sexual Content" ok |
Author: | GobO_Sapper [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
KeeperofManyNames wrote: ...Well played. Well, I dont like to brag...but...@Ko : Do feel free to elaborate. As the original post states vague statements don't really help get anywhere. And as explained in the previous thread: the more logical, detailed, and well thought out defense for something, the more likely it is to make your case for something. |
Author: | Ko [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
it is a league of legends video so if you do not play the game or have someone explain it to you (this happened to me) then I guess you would not understand it but that doesn't mean that "there is no point other than vulgarity". It's just not a video for you, and it was marked with a nsfw tag so what is the issue
herein lies the joke
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Author: | shab [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
Ko wrote:
herein lies the joke
nsfw
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Author: | LilyStorm [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
Looks like a great coc. This is honestly the first time I've ever read one! |
Author: | GobO_Sapper [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
Ko wrote: it is a league of legends video so if you do not play the game or have someone explain it to you (this happened to me) then I guess you would not understand it but that doesn't mean that "there is no point other than vulgarity". It's just not a video for you, and it was marked with a nsfw tag so what is the issue I've played League and I understand the 'joke' of the video being that he's referring to every single opponent as Singed despite the fact that none of them are. However, the way he goes about said joke is like I mentioned above: extremely vulgar and graphic over the top yelling and screaming.
herein lies the joke
So at best I'm still seeing it as needed to be a text link tagged with appropriate NSFW tags. - - - - @Shab : Please keep this thread constructive and on-topic. Yes, spoilering the video with an NSFW tag is a correct way to go about it, but please have some sort of content to your post other than to post another dunkey video. |
Author: | Ko [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
so what is the issue then? it's a nsfw video that would be relevant to the league of legends thread that is hidden behind some kind of warning it's vulgar sure, but so what? A proper warning is there to stop people who don't want to see it, and the people who do want to see it can. |
Author: | OakenHeart [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:28 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
Gave it a quick skim and everything looks good so far, I'll have to go more in depth when I have the time. The IP section is a nice add for us creative folks, but the rest seems pretty much inline with what the moderation's been aiming for. |
Author: | NeoSilk [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
IMO - it looks very complete and detailed. |
Author: | Yarium [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Draft Copy of the Updated Code of Conduct: Comments Invited |
Instead of posting definitions for trolling/baiting/etc - just say; "It is the sole discretion of NGA moderators and staff to determine whether a post infringes on the CoC. While we welcome a discussion carried out via private messaging as to why a moderator's actions may have been too harsh or not harsh enough, be aware that their decision is final. NGA does not attempt to strictly define the terms “flaming”, “baiting”, or “trolling”, as we will not allow those that are in breach of the CoC to avoid punishment by abusing a technicality of the definition. If you are unsure of whether something is or is not in breach of the CoC, it is recommended that you speak privately with a moderator beforehand." |
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