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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:35 pm 
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Very mature CoC.
Compared to the Mothership this site from the beginning has impressed me with the mature moderation.
This is a big step toward making this an even better site.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:57 pm 
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In section four, I'd recommend putting the "are allowed"s and the "are not allowed"s together, instead of staggering them as they are.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:18 pm 
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Yarium wrote:
Instead of posting definitions for trolling/baiting/etc - just say;

"It is the sole discretion of NGA moderators and staff to determine whether a post infringes on the CoC. While we welcome a discussion carried out via private messaging as to why a moderator's actions may have been too harsh or not harsh enough, be aware that their decision is final. NGA does not attempt to strictly define the terms “flaming”, “baiting”, or “trolling”, as we will not allow those that are in breach of the CoC to avoid punishment by abusing a technicality of the definition. If you are unsure of whether something is or is not in breach of the CoC, it is recommended that you speak privately with a moderator beforehand."

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The Butt wrote:
Yarium wrote:
Instead of posting definitions for trolling/baiting/etc - just say;

"It is the sole discretion of NGA moderators and staff to determine whether a post infringes on the CoC. While we welcome a discussion carried out via private messaging as to why a moderator's actions may have been too harsh or not harsh enough, be aware that their decision is final. NGA does not attempt to strictly define the terms “flaming”, “baiting”, or “trolling”, as we will not allow those that are in breach of the CoC to avoid punishment by abusing a technicality of the definition. If you are unsure of whether something is or is not in breach of the CoC, it is recommended that you speak privately with a moderator beforehand."

YES

YOU PEOPLE NEED TO ADD THIS


Definitely a strong possibility of this happening, which is why the section is tagged as a possible deletion.

In section four, I'd recommend putting the "are allowed"s and the "are not allowed"s together, instead of staggering them as they are.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:19 pm 
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In section four, I'd recommend putting the "are allowed"s and the "are not allowed"s together, instead of staggering them as they are.
How about now? I've swapped a few around.

It now reads as:
-Heres what you can do.
-Heres what you cant do.
--Heres an exception
-Heres one time exception to all of the above.

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Very solid. I don't have any real gripe that something has been missed -you even tackled Kickstarter links- but I did have a few things to point out:

A typo in section one: "Please us English only while posting" it should be "Please use English".

I'm going to assume the ## X ## in relation to pictures in signatures means that there will be a size attached at some point?

I don't know where this has been actually listed, but I don't actually know what admins are in charge of what areas outside of my resident neighborhood (AF&S and M:EM), so it might be helpful when saying in Section Five "After 48 hours if a report is still open, contact the moderator assigned to that area of the forums via private message" to have an easy way of seeing who is assigned.




I want to extend my gratitude for Sections Four and Six in particular. Brilliant.

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A quick phone post to answer some of the above:

Thanks for the typo catch, will get that fixed.

The ## x ## will be replaced by the demensions once we decide on them, but we need to figure what sizes keeps it from being annoying while not making to hard to see. Or if we will require them to be in a spoiler.

Regarding whos in charge of what, we were cosidering a post afterwards to break it down, but ive seen other sites that have the mods listed at the bottom and it changes for each area you visit. I know you can do it on Vbulliten, but im curious phpbb does it as well.

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You can see the moderator for the M:EM board is the M:EM Archivist; it's labelled on the main page, and at the top of the M:EM board itself.

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Right, we actually physically assigned a moderator to M:EM. That account can only perform moderation functions in that forum (and I think, but could be misremembering, that the account doesn't have access to all mod functions.

I'll play around with the settings a bit when I can find time to see if assigning a mod to a specific forum prevents him/her from modding in other places. Sapper, thanks for volunteering to be the guinea pig. :)

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Alrighty, just let me know when and where and such.

How do people feel about having the bolded moderator note under each forum to specify who is primarily responsible for the area? Yay or Nay ?

I dont mind that the MeM one displays, but I think if every single line on the index had a list of names it would get sorta clunky.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:33 pm 
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I think it would be very ugly and if it was done for each forum it would make the page a lot longer

I think if you just posted assigned moderators in the CoC or linked to it from the CoC it would be fine

you want people to read the rules and to know who their moderators are, so just put them together


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:40 pm 
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It doesn't have to be on the main page if that's going to clutter it up. You can put it on the page for the forum itself, though. For instance, when you go to the "Art, Flavor, and Storylines" board, it has the mod name directly underneath the board name.

It's also probably fine in the CoC itself, but I am aware in what kind of timely manner CoC's tend to get updated, and how frequently they actually get thoroughly read. If you want it discoverable at a glance, you'll want it somewhere else, as well, though.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:48 pm 
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I was discussing in the mod area if theres a way to have it on the forum page but not actually show up on the index cause I think it would look cluttered. But currently it looks like if you want one, you get the other. So we're going to look into seeing if there are any plug-ins that may facilitate it.

The idea of a who's who thread had been tossed around as well, I don't think things will be moving too fast that it cant be maintained. I think that we weren't sure where to put it, either in a post following the CoC or in its own Metaboard thread... or maybe both. It would just be a quick post listing the staff and which area or areas they watch over, as well as site email and such.

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No, there's probably not a control panel option to change that preference. It would require someone modifying the php file that generates the index page. It probably doesn't require any more than commenting out a few lines, though.

I wouldn't be worried about a who's who thread being outpaced by changes, but by the changes actually making it to an edit on that thread in a timely manner. Typically, what I see in cases like that is a change happens, but someone forgets to update the page, because the changes don't actually happen very frequently. It becomes easily forgettable.

Like stickied "Announcements" at the tops of forums that are there for years. Everyone's already read them, why should the guy who's been here for years read it again? Just in case a change was made? No, they tend to just be forgotten about. I'm not saying that's what *would* happen here, just that that's a general pattern that lots of sites have tried to deal with.

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At Enworld and elsewhere I've noticed that the Moderators are listed next to the names of the folks who are online. Maybe something liek that?

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Good catch, Cato, we will update that. Our servers are in Los Angeles, and of course we abide by all U.S. federal laws, as well as any relevant international law.

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There's already "the team" link on the main page.
Could something just be added/updated to that to show who the moderators for each forum are?
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Nice catch, Neo. I somehow managed to never even notice that link before. (And even with you saying it existed, it still took me a bit of effort to find it.)

So, that link has all the info, actually. The mod's "title" contains the area they are responsible for. For example, Alth and I have "Moderator Lead," Sapper has "PBP & RPG Moderator" and so on. So that's one place where the info is already gathered.

I think ultimately, the answer is going to be a lot of these mixed together. The Team page is great and is already there, so that's one. Adding an "addendum" post to the CoC once it goes up with the list of staff members and their responsibilities is certainly easy to do, so I don't see why that can't happen. And I'm about to go fiddle with Sapper's settings now to see if assigning him to a forum still allows him to mod elsewhere; if so, we can go ahead and do that and then tweak the code on the "main" page to remove the mod names from under the forum.

So... Sapper, you are now set as the moderator on all three pbp forums. There are some settings I can tweak, so if I screwed something up, we can play around with that and make it work most likely. So two things I need you to do:

1) Check that you can still do what you expect in the PBP area. Your settings are the same in all three, so if one works they all should

2) See if you still have your tools elsewhere. My hunch is yes.

If doing this still gives you all you need in PBP (after I fiddle with settings, if something is missing) and you can still do everything elsewhere too, then we can go ahead and assign names to forums and then give Welder some more work to do with updating the main index page to remove that line. If it doesn't work, well... at least we tried.

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Just as a random note: Man those green names look like crap against the Dark Grey setup. Sapper's names are just ugly neon green blurs to me under the forum titles. Is there any way to shift those colors?

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